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[Yyubie]

Naruto was about this generation not the next one.

We saw that the previous generations screwed up and now it came to Naruto's generation to finally makes things better.

Creating a new generation does not fix the problem. What it actually does is introduce another one. Because effectively what he/they said is that every generation will screw up and there will never be any for of a fix/repair.

 

It's up to the next generation and after it's up to the next generation and then it's up to the next generation and then it's up to the next generation and on and on until the end of time.

By introducing this current generation he/they didn't fix the problem. He/they just made another one that will go on forever.

That is what they were aiming for, the don't know how to create a good storyline. Instead of fixing they add more things, in hope that the fans will forget about the previous one and start to focus on a new one, leaving the previous one abandon, unclear and unresolved. The most PRIME example is chapter 3 bench scene, its still unresolved, sakura is forever will never know the truth about that.

[RyohkiFan]

If this is true which  I doubt it is and Chie thinks that was Sakura's real happy ending then she's more delusional and much of a fangirl then I thought  not much different then the rest of the SS fanatics bleh !!! . Anyways that's Trollmoto for you .

It's true lol I find it messed up from Kishi though but it's Kishi...

[Nostradamus]

That is what they were aiming for, the don't know how to create a good storyline. Instead of fixing they add more things, in hope that the fans will forget about the previous one and start to focus on a new one, leaving the previous one abandon, unclear and unresolved. The most PRIME example is chapter 3 bench scene, its still unresolved, sakura is forever will never know the truth about that.

I would actually say the prime example is or are all the chapters of Naruto. 698 of them. 698 of them rendered useless, pointless and meaningless. Everything was abandoned and left in the dust to give way to these kids. And then these kids will be left in the dust and on and on.

Edited by Nostradamus, 10 August 2015 - 12:51 AM.

[Narufan85]

I would actually say the prime example is or are all the chapters of Naruto. 698 of them. 698 of them rendered useless, pointless and meaningless. Everything was abandoned and left in the dust to give way to these kids. And then these kids will be left in the dust and on and on.

 

Yup. Great point. 698 chapters rendered useless in just one week.

[RedFaction]

 
Yup. Great point. 698 chapters rendered useless in just one week.

And it's only gotten worse since then. Way worse.

[Bail o' Lies]

And it's only gotten worse since then. Way worse.

I said this awhile back but it bears repeating. Looking back chapter 699 and 700 weren't that bad. Well compared to everything those chapters led to: The Last, Kishi's interviews, SP gone wild(and even more inept), the novels. the gaiden, and now Bolt the movie. In comparison they were only awful compared to the utter disaster that have followed it.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 10 August 2015 - 02:55 AM.

[James S Cassidy]

I said this awhile back but it bears repeating. Looking back chapter 699 and 700 weren't that bad. Well compared to everything those chapters led to: The Last, Kishi's interviews, SP gone wild(and even more inept), the novels. the gaiden, and now Bolt the movie. In comparison they were only awful compared to the utter disaster that have followed it.

Herein lies the very problem of this series. Fans and people are not judging by what it is, but rather what it isn't.

"Compared to Naruto the Last, Burrito the movie is awesome."
"Compared to the rest of the stuff, Chapter 699-700 are not that bad"
"Compared to Hinata and Sakura, Ten-Ten is a more important character."

It is ridiculous that the only positive aspect of this series is basing it all on the idea that there is worse stuff out there. I cannot emphasis this enough. You can't give somethign a good score because something else did it worse. You are devaluing the standards because of this.

As a friend of mine used to say "You can say one pile of sh-- smells better than another pile of sh--, but it is still sh--"
 

[Catra]

Herein lies the very problem of this series. Fans and people are not judging by what it is, but rather what it isn't.

"Compared to Naruto the Last, Burrito the movie is awesome."
"Compared to the rest of the stuff, Chapter 699-700 are not that bad"
"Compared to Hinata and Sakura, Ten-Ten is a more important character."

It is ridiculous that the only positive aspect of this series is basing it all on the idea that there is worse stuff out there. I cannot emphasis this enough. You can't give somethign a good score because something else did it worse. You are devaluing the standards because of this.

As a friend of mine used to say "You can say one pile of sh-- smells better than another pile of sh--, but it is still sh--"
 

thaaahahahahank you!

 

its like people giving sonic 06 props for not being as bad as sonic boom.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

not related to the movie but kishi trolling Sakuras VA and SS http://www.narutofor...8&postcount=233

 

He  hates the pairing. That's for sure. Did he said anything about NH?

[FireFox]

It's true lol I find it messed up from Kishi though but it's Kishi...

Dafuq !!!  . I don't know what's worse between these two , that they really think this is Sakura's "happiness" her "happy ending" her only reason for existing being an obsessed Sasuke fangirl  or that this god forsaken author  made SS just for the lulz  and throw the whole story and all its characters into a giant piece of s**t hole just for giggles !? I don't know which one is more laughable or disgusting !? I don't know WTF is going anymore with these people its like there is no limit to their stupidity   .   

[Swagkura]

thaaahahahahank you!
 
its like people giving sonic 06 props for not being as bad as sonic boom.

Please, Sonic 06 was the sh**t. I will tolerate no bashing of that masterpiece in gaming history

[Catra]

*didn't mind sonic 06 probably because i saw gameplay vids and knew what glitches to avoid but still feels bad for the people who paid full price for it and didn't know what to expect*

[rocci]

@redrose
It's kishi fault that naruto doesn't resolve any issue in the main manga outside of naru vs sasu.
Kishi problem with peace is, it's too abstract and big.
I think that's because he choose the wrong source of inspiration for peace, the matrix.

@nostradamus
Yes, the story should be following naruto generation and creating new generation will not fix the problem.

In my opinion there's no such thing like everlasting peace. Human will always be in conflict.
Story always need conflict, especially the action or battle one.

[soraandven]

Sakura hitting Naruto as comic relief is considered domestic abuse by NH/SS fans. I wonder how will they react when Mophead nearly killed Naruto by trying to kill Bolt. And then went all crepy serial killer on Bolt!

those idiots don't know anything its not violence its communication like this hiccstrid scene https://youtu.be/SCO-JP2gDBo

[rocci]

those idiots don't know anything its not violence its communication like this hiccstrid scene https://youtu.be/SCO-JP2gDBo

Doesn't astride a original movie character.
She's not from novel right?

[Swagkura]

*didn't mind sonic 06 probably because i saw gameplay vids and knew what glitches to avoid but still feels bad for the people who paid full price for it and didn't know what to expect*

Lol, the game was an abomination. But I still love it, even though it was complete trash
For a game so horrible, it did have an amazing soundtrack though.

[James S Cassidy]

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[RedFaction]

http://www.animenews...n-3-days/.91494

It looks like the new generation is going to be a success then. There's no doubt that there will be more to the Boruto story after this movie, even without Kishimoto. I think Studio Perriot and Shonen Jump could get away with anything they want now and people will eat it right up, just because it's Naruto.

 

Things don't look good for the anime/manga industry if this trend continues.

Edited by RedFaction, 10 August 2015 - 08:55 AM.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

It looks like the new generation is going to be a success then. There's no doubt that there will be more to the Boruto story after this movie, even without Kishimoto. I think Studio Perriot and Shonen Jump could get away with anything they want now and people will eat it right up, just because it's Naruto.

 

Things don't look good for the anime/manga industry if this trend continues.

 

Its still too early too judge the outcome. Just take a look at TL that had a big major boast in its first week on U.S soil. Eventually, it died down by its third week. If the film can duplicate what it did in its first week of screening, than its going to be a success. Just take a look at the volume of chapter 72. it;s first week sold under 900,000 copies. The following week was lest than 150,000, so its the duration of the film in theaters will determine its success. 

[FireFox]

It looks like the new generation is going to be a success then. There's no doubt that there will be more to the Boruto story after this movie, even without Kishimoto. I think Studio Perriot and Shonen Jump could get away with anything they want now and people will eat it right up, just because it's Naruto.

 

Things don't look good for the anime/manga industry if this trend continues.

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