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[Shashank95]

 

Alas, that dream is dead. All one can do is wonder at this point, and silently watch as poor Sakura burns.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Waaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!

 

 

 

Look guys and gals, I know we are talking about what's "offical" here with regards to Naruto's love, and Sakura love and all that bs that Kishimoto made up.

 

But don't forget this first and foremost above ALL ELSE all of those "offical" statements about feelings are all RETCONS that Kishimoto set forth in order to make this bullsh** ending somewhat believable.

 

They are about as real to the original manga as the idea that Naruto knew the shadow clone technique as a 6 year old.

The truth...!!!

So could we please stop fighting over who is more of an kitten between Sakura and Naruto....??

Edited by Shashank95, 27 April 2015 - 04:42 AM.

[TsukiChan ♥]

Yeah I do like Sasuke as a character, I just think he's more fun as an enemy. XD It's a shame he was never really able to be friends with Naruto & Sakura again.
As for your question, I don't know! XD I know the genes you are born with can be passed down but I don't know if you can pass down developed afflictions or if your genes change as you live lol. What is it that you came up with?

 

Yeah he is kind of funnier as an enemy lol and yeah :/ its like he was only redeemed for a day and then -- poof! lolll

Ohhh i see, well after reading a SK post on tumblr, I came across a panel of Sasuke straining his eyes to get the black flames off of Karin, and then I thought back to what was shown in Gaiden, where Sarada came across the photo of Karin, and when she asked Sakura if Sasuke wore glasses which brought me to a theory that Sasuke might have strained his eyes so badly during the time that that's probably why Sarada had glasses, because it was passed down, but not fully, just so that all she needed was glasses, which brings us back over to Karin. If she confronts Sasuke on Karin, and he strained his eye during that time when he saved her, he would probably tell her about the time he saved her straining his eyes, and then tell her about not just Karin but also Juugo and Suigetsu? I just felt like that specific panel might just tie it together somehow.

 

 

 

Dem feels   

 

 

 

If it's genetic, i think it can be passed down. I mean if it's inherent in your genes, there are chances of it being passed to your kids, but if it develops later due to outside influence, it can't be called genetic   

 

 

alright then, thanks :)

[narusaku256]

 
I dont know! xD lol I always liked Sasuke as a character so seeing him redeemed was something I wanted to see (not that crap at 699 and 700...ugh....and why does it look like he goes right back to emo Sasuke when he was smiling at Naruto and stuff...lollll but 698 was a true Sasuke masterpiece)
seeing him as their arch rival/nemesis is something to think about though
 
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lets say you damaged your eyes right?...is it possible to pass that down to your children? through genes? like a bad eye gene that they would need glasses? I just came up with something

I don't have an acute knowledge on genetics for my opinion to be relied on but based on whatever I know, I'd like throwing in my two cents.

I think if the disorder is genetic, if it has been caused due to a faulty gene, then it has the potential to pass down to the children. Genes develop our lifetime. Hence we just have some traits similar to our parents and NOT all of them. Our upbringing, our social environment and other causative factors determine the genes and by default, the traits. But yet again....not all of them are passed down. That is why only certain genetic disorders are passed down. But even yet, as a contradiction to what I am saying, it is a proven fact that even if the mom/dad has certain genetic disorder....the child won't have it. The child has a high probability to have that...but not necessary he'd have it.

Maybe you can ask Naruko when she comes online. She's an expert on the subject XD

[TsukiChan ♥]

I don't have an acute knowledge on genetics for my opinion to be relied on but based on whatever I know, I'd like throwing in my two cents.

I think if the disorder is genetic, if it has been caused due to a faulty gene, then it has the potential to pass down to the children. Genes develop our lifetime. Hence we just have some traits similar to our parents and NOT all of them. Our upbringing, our social environment and other causative factors determine the genes and by default, the traits. But yet again....not all of them are passed down. That is why only certain genetic disorders are passed down. But even yet, as a contradiction to what I am saying, it is a proven fact that even if the mom/dad has certain genetic disorder....the child won't have it. The child has a high probability to have that...but not necessary he'd have it.

Maybe you can ask Naruko when she comes online. She's an expert on the subject XD

 

alright then, but I still like your insight on it

[narusaku256]

 
alright then, but I still like your insight on it

Much appreciated But I still suggest you take more opinions on it though XD

[Shashank95]

 

alright then, but I still like your insight on it

 

But we still don't know if Sarada actually needs those glasses or not. If she does medically need it, then there is something fishy about her parentage.....  

[narusaku256]

 
But we still don't know if Sarada actually needs those glasses or not. If she does medically need it, then there is something fishy about her parentage.....  

OR the parents perse Since Uchiha genes would be dominant since they are the stronger ones....she shouldn't have glasses. But she does! The genes which are known to be dominant are that of Senju, Hyuuga and Uzumaki! Any clan genes for that matter. And....it cannot be Hyuuga and Senju for....obvious reasons. Not any other clan because....we never saw any woman in Sasuke's life from other clan. So what remains are the....Uzumakis.

Edited by narusaku256, 27 April 2015 - 05:13 AM.

[BlackBird19]

Just a little info on the eyesight thing. It's not necessarily known whether bad eyesight is genetic. However, nearsightedness is seen as having strong genetic links. Such as my mother and I both being nearsighted. I have an eye disease that developed later on, but I only know of one other family member having it as well. And she's just a cousin. I've yet to be told that the disease could possibly be passed on to my children.

[AHK]

 

I dont know! xD lol I always liked Sasuke as a character so seeing him redeemed was something I wanted to see (not that crap at 699 and 700...ugh....and why does it look like he goes right back to emo Sasuke when he was smiling at Naruto and stuff...lollll but 698 was a true Sasuke masterpiece)

seeing him as their arch rival/nemesis is something to think about though

 

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QUICK QUESTION

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lets say you damaged your eyes right?...is it possible to pass that down to your children? through genes? like a bad eye gene that they would need glasses? I just came up with something

if you damaged them from an outside source, then no, it cant be passed down. It's like cutting off your arm, and then having a child. That child wont be born without an arm because its it wasn't a hereditary trait. 

[Tiller]

Just a little info on the eyesight thing. It's not necessarily known whether bad eyesight is genetic. However, nearsightedness is seen as having strong genetic links. Such as my mother and I both being nearsighted. I have an eye disease that developed later on, but I only know of one other family member having it as well. And she's just a cousin. I've yet to be told that the disease could possibly be passed on to my children.

Thank you for sharing BlackBird.

 

Thing is even if that is going to be Kishimoto's excuse I doubt he actually did any real world research on it.
 

[TsukiChan ♥]

Much appreciated But I still suggest you take more opinions on it though XD

 

haha ok

 

 

But we still don't know if Sarada actually needs those glasses or not. If she does medically need it, then there is something fishy about her parentage.....  

 

I think so, I saw a photo of her as a young child without them, now all of a sudden she wears glasses...and we never see her with them off, this is the first Uchiha I've seen with glasses though :| kind of weird

 

Just a little info on the eyesight thing. It's not necessarily known whether bad eyesight is genetic. However, nearsightedness is seen as having strong genetic links. Such as my mother and I both being nearsighted. I have an eye disease that developed later on, but I only know of one other family member having it as well. And she's just a cousin. I've yet to be told that the disease could possibly be passed on to my children.

 

I see, and I read your earlier post, i hope all goes well with you :(

 

if you damaged them from an outside source, then no, it cant be passed down. It's like cutting off your arm, and then having a child. That child wont be born without an arm because its it wasn't a hereditary trait. 

 

I was thinking about that! xD haha thanks

[dejavu]

lol genetic talks eh? As if that will matter. Save your intelligence from this manga where you can replace your whole eye like its some contact lens.

[Jenskott]

 

Me and Trang were talking about why this might be a while ago, and there's no clear answer, but what we came to see is this: women characters are judged differently than men characters. And that's a give, but it's how they're judged that stands out. Basically, if a female character is pretty and appealing with a nice calm attitude- fans are easily impressed with that character. But if a female character is spunkier and sometimes not so "visually" appealing- fans tend to judge that character harder. Now, sometimes these characters still gain a massive following, like Rukia or Morigana, but sometimes they become the fandom's number one hated girl- like Sakura, Chi Chi or Jericho. Then there's that mix- like Mikasa or Bulma, where half of the fandom worships her while the other half despises her.  

 

And that's why we have bullsh*t like "best girl" instead of "best character" because female characters are on a completely different spectrum from male characters. But this is usually only found in shounen fandoms, where women characters are screwed up anyway. And it doesn't apply to everything (One Piece). But it still exists.

 

Sincerely, I agree with you.

[Dario]

 

Yes, I think this is best.

 

Both Naruto and Sakura have been ret-conned into characters they NEVER were to begin with. And as it turned out, they both were just pawns in making sure that Hinata and Sasuke got a happy ending. Neither Naruto nor Sakura nor any of the readers did.

 

Disagreeing on how the story gets there is pointless. It always ends up at the same place - no happy ending for anyone.

l don't think they're the same as Sakura didn't exactly get retconned, her being a shallow Sasuke fangirl with no self respect was always there, it's just that some people including a lot of NS fans expected her to grow out of it and become a different character. Sadly this never happend. 

 

Naruto was indeed retconned into an emotional retard like a worse version of original Sai.

[Shashank95]

 

Someone already made this

 

 

I know i'm evil for saying this but What if.......... a big what if......

 

Toneri screwed Hinata and that Mitsuki is Toneri's bastard child...??

 

 

I think i hit the goldmine for Gaiden memes.....   

Edited by Shashank95, 27 April 2015 - 07:16 AM.

[narusaku256]

 
Someone already made this
 

 
I know i'm evil for saying this but What if.......... a big what if......
 
Toneri screwed Hinata and that Mitsuki is Toneri's bastard child...??
 

 
I think i hit the goldmine for Gaiden memes.....   

You atleast say it XD I wish for it LOL XD

[Aizen-Sama]

 

Someone already made this

 

 

I know i'm evil for saying this but What if.......... a big what if......

 

Toneri screwed Hinata and that Mitsuki is Toneri's bastard child...??

 

 

I think i hit the goldmine for Gaiden memes.....   

 

HAHAHAHA THIS IS GOLD!!

[Shashank95]

 

HAHAHAHA THIS IS GOLD!!

the thread was getting waaaayyyy toooo negative for my taste   

[FireFox]

 

We all know that, and I think its because she got the chance to really know Sasuke, unlike the other fangirls, she also got to see sides of him that not a lot of the others girls got to see, and despite all that, loved him...I dont get why cause he treated her like crap honestly, SS would've been better off as a BROTP thing

The crap treating is just a bonus for how horrible SS is as anything LOL . But the thing with that is even if she got to "know/see" a different side of him she never saw him for what he really was but only as the self inserted image she had of him (ironically she view him as Naruto and Ch 3 confirmed that) she refused to accept that he's not what he appears to be , she was selfish and didn't saw him furthermore then her self inserted fangirl fantasies , the fact that they barely even spoke to each other "as Sakura herself said"  had barely any base even for a friendship the whole thing is just ugh !!! no words really .  If I've ever seen one SS is the most horrible constructed relationship in literature ever  as written is just baseless utter one sided disgusting piece of crap . Its ironic that they have more basis to be arched enemies than anything else LOL .      

[Shashank95]

Boruto is out to fix this nightmare.......