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[Kobayashi]

You know what i find interesting. This new opening and song is so narusaku but interesting thing is that its been already three weeks but those people that make translations for Naruto didnt made the translations for the opening song, cause it is about Sakuras fellings for Naruto, it is very annoying.
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Also this new episode reminded me, that Kakashi said that Sakura is no match for Sasuke. "It is like shes going there to die". That reasured me that Sakura knew that already,and that was the reason why she conffesed to Naruto. Kishi is putting words in Kakashis mouth:-) author planned it that way surely.

Has anyone link to Naruto Jump inteview 2010 that is not translated by SasuSaku fans or Hinata fans.

Edited by Kobayashi, 28 April 2011 - 07:37 PM.

[Phantom_999]

@Rikudo Sennin

Jump interview 2009.

But every time I look at that interview I just see that b******t one with "OH! Sakura is haughty towards Naruto and still LOVES Sasuke and Shikamaru is Naruto's confidante" and all that crap we know IS NOT TRUE and trust me I've checked many sites in my blind rage hoping it wasn't true and it was the same thing so don't recommend that but yeah in a non biased translation (though I've never seen it myself) Kishimoto did say she that was being honest in her confession its just Naruto did not act in the way we expected and did not seem to accept at first which is why we get "YEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!! HE REJECTED HER!!!! NARUHINA FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! While NaruSaku fans were crying their eyes out(admit it it scared us, definitely was traumatizing) heck when 469 came out in the american Shonen jump magazine they were spazzing in the a page of the Naruto section like this OH! Naruto didn't accept Sakura's confession! have his feelings changed?! and and all that nonsense thats why american NaruHina fans were dancing the Conga in there rooms and partying until they dropped dead thinking "I can finally die in peace" and thats also why they are so deluded about NaruSaku For those that don't read the viz shonen jump magazine with each series printed in the magazine they also have a few page in between chapters that promote consumer products for that series or give highlights to important chapters thats what I was talking about
I personally blame those idiot publishers for this

Edited by Phantom_999, 28 April 2011 - 09:30 PM.

[Living Lavish]

But every time I look at that interview I just see that b******t one with "OH! Sakura is haughty towards Naruto and still LOVES Sasuke and Shikamaru is Naruto's confidante" and all that crap we know IS NOT TRUE and trust me I've checked many sites in my blind rage hoping it wasn't true and it was the same thing so don't recommend that but yeah in a non biased translation (though I've never seen it myself) Kishimoto did say she that was being honest in her confession its just Naruto did not act in the way we expected and did not seem to accept at first which is why we get "YEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!! HE REJECTED HER!!!! NARUHINA FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! While NaruSaku fans were crying their eyes out(admit it it scared us, definitely was traumatizing) heck when 469 came out in the american Shonen jump magazine they were spazzing in the a page of the Naruto section like this OH! Naruto didn't accept Sakura's confession! have his feelings changed?! and and all that nonsense thats why american NaruHina fans were dancing the Conga in there rooms and partying until they dropped dead thinking "I can finally die in peace" and thats also why they are so deluded about NaruSaku For those that don't read the viz shonen jump magazine with each series printed in the magazine they also have a few page in between chapters that promote consumer products for that series or give highlights to important chapters thats what I was talking about
I personally blame those idiot publishers for this

yeah the mistranlated one is floating around, but you can find the real one on the net. theres a non biased one i read from SasuNaru fan. The thing is NHers messed it up and mistranslated to make it look a way. they had Kishi saying Sakura was being haughty and tryed to use Naruto feelings and lied to him when in fact thats not what he said at all.

that was a actually comment from the animators Pierrot infact said that to Kishi and he replyed ''not at all, i thought i wrote a surprisely determined and honest girl'' and he never said straight out she loves sasuke. Kishi dosn't reveal those kind of things in a interview he was being vague.

Edited by Living Lavish, 28 April 2011 - 10:05 PM.

[bthug]

yeah the mistranlated one is floating around, but you can find the real one on the net. theres a non biased one i read from SasuNaru fan. The thing is NHers messed it up and mistranslated to make it look a way. they had Kishi saying Sakura was being haughty and tryed to use Naruto feelings and lied to him when in fact thats not what he said at all.

that was a actually comment from the animators Pierrot infact said that to Kishi and he replyed ''not at all, i thought i wrote a surprisely determined and honest girl'' and he never said straight out she loves sasuke. Kishi dosn't reveal those kind of things in a interview he was being vague.

But if it is true then were f**cked, and what if saskue comes back good?
Oh and can someone wanna help me out with my questions a couple of posts up.

Edited by bthug, 28 April 2011 - 11:30 PM.

[Greed-Sama]

But if it is true then were f**cked, and what if saskue comes back good?
Oh and can someone wanna help me out with my questions a couple of posts up.

You're missing the big picture here. Naruto's ninja way is that he doesn't go back on his word. He saves his loves Sakura. Plain and simple, case closed. It's one of the many themes in the manga.

[Otaru]

The look on Sakura's face was of regret/sorrow/pity/sadness. She was concerned for hinata's well being, but instead of saying something like "hinata you overdid it... poor girl" she said "hinata... you loved... naruto"

thus resulting in her thinking, "am I worthy of his love?" "if i do love him would it be right?"

Yes, she was touched, but the main factor was her concern for hinata loving naruto and she compares it with her own. resulting in the sorrowful face.

Maybe.

But for me, she's empathising to Hinata. Because she understands so well why Hinata run to help Naruto.
Of course she looks sad, Hinata risked her life. It's a grave situation, so she looks grave.
I don't see any hint that proove she's sad because another girl love Naruto.
What she said in the original (japanese) manga is : "Hinata, Naruto no kotto...." which means " Hinata, about Naruto..." if we translate litteraly.
It's clearly emphathy to me, and nothing else.
Maybe latter in the story she has think about "am i worthy of his love", but i think it fits more when Sai revealed her Naruto loves her.

@ Living Lavish : no need to be aggressive. I just give my opinion here.

Edited by Otaru, 29 April 2011 - 12:13 AM.

[Living Lavish]

Maybe.

But for me, she's empathising to Hinata. Because she understands so well why Hinata run to help Naruto.
Of course she looks sad, Hinata risked her life. It's a grave situation, so she looks grave.
I don't see any hint that proove she's sad because another girl love Naruto.
What she said in the original (japanese) manga is : "Hinata, Naruto no kotto...." which means " Hinata, about Naruto..." if we translate litteraly.
It's clearly emphathy to me, and nothing else.
Maybe latter in the story she have think about "am i worthy of his love", but i think it fits more when Sai revealed her Naruto loves her.

yes she concerned about Hinata. but the main thing it implies she knows Hinata loves him and her feelings for Naruto got caught up in it. her face says it all. professionals translated it as such because thats what the scene or panels suggests or else theres no point of Neji asking that question. shes upset about it.

Edited by Living Lavish, 28 April 2011 - 11:59 PM.

[Otaru]

With my interpretation, Neji asking his question still have a point.
Neji doesn't understand why Hinata did this.
Sakura understands.
Because she've done the same.
It's empathy.

[The Tax-Man]

With my interpretation, Neji asking his question still have a point.
Neji doesn't understand why Hinata did this.
Sakura understands.
Because she've done the same.
It's empathy.

Best explanation I've ever heard.

[Otaru]

But it's true this moment is maybe a NaruSaku moment, but not in the way you think it is, in my opinion.
I think Kishi chooses Sakura to empathize with Hinata for a reason.
Through what Hinata has done, which was done because OF LOVE, we can see Sakura empathizing with her.
So, it somewhat prooves that Sakura once did the same. And when did she do the same ? She risked her life back then, running at Naruto/kyuubi. Some people keep telling it was a friend act. I've always think it was a LOVE act. And Sakura empathizing with Hinata kind of proove that.
There is also when she stood before Gaara to protect Sasuke.

Edited by Otaru, 29 April 2011 - 12:21 AM.

[Living Lavish]

With my interpretation, Neji asking his question still have a point.
Neji doesn't understand why Hinata did this.
Sakura understands.
Because she've done the same.
It's empathy.

but is also her being upset about it. remember Sakura was insecure and feeling useless about not being able to help Naruto in the past and now she sees Hinata sacrifice (selfish tho) herself out of love.add that with Sakuras feelings for him. it hit a nerve for sure.


and the actual translation is ''Hinata..you..for...Naruto'' witch is from a credible source on Narutofan from a NaruSaku fan who speaks japanese.

witch either means Hinata did this for Naruto or it can be taking as she knows why Hinata did it.

from looking at Sakura in the panels and her close relationship with Naruto its the second one to me.


EDIT: the tranlastions are the same. i just thought it was worded wrong. lol basically Sakura did empathize with it but also brought her feelings up when she found out Hinata loves him. also how useless she feels towards him. she was upset.

But it's true this moment is maybe a NaruSaku moment, but not in the way you think it is, in my opinion.
I think Kishi chooses Sakura to empathize with Hinata for a reason.
Through what Hinata has done, which was done because OF LOVE, we can see Sakura empathizing with her.
So, it somewhat prooves that Sakura once did the same. And when did she do the same ? She risked her life back then, running at Naruto/kyuubi. Some people keep telling it was a friend act. I've always think it was a LOVE act. And Sakura empathizing with Hinata kind of proove that.
There is also when she stood before Gaara to protect Sasuke.

it had nothing to do with Sasuke. she thought of only Naruto.

Edited by Derock, 29 April 2011 - 02:17 AM.

[The Tax-Man]

it had nothing to do with Sasuke. she thought of only Naruto.

That was just an example I guess. But I can safely say it was more empathy and sadness than jealousy. That much is pretty obvious. You don't feel jealous in a situation like that.

[Otaru]

but is also her being upset about it. remember Sakura was insecure and feeling useless about not being able to help Naruto in the past and now she sees Hinata sacrifice (selfish tho) herself out of love.add that with Sakuras feelings for him. it hit a nerve for sure.


and the actual translation is ''Hinata..you..for...Naruto'' witch is from a credible source on Narutofan from a NaruSaku fan who speaks japanese.

witch either means Hinata did this for Naruto or it can be taking as she knows why Hinata did it.

from looking at Sakura in the panels and her close relationship with Naruto its the second one to me.

Maybe, but there is no proof of it, it's just assumption you made.
Sakura is a pro medic. Honestly, it's not a time to be thinking about herself, she's not like that at all.
She's healing Hinata, and empathizing with her, and what she've done, but i'm pretty sure she's not thinking about herself here.

This said, i respect your opinion.

I have the raw manga, and i know what's written on it : " Hinata... Naruto no kotto..." that's all. It's quite the same as your sentence. But it doesn't change anything, it's obvious it's implied she's discovered Hinata loves Naruto.

Edited by Otaru, 29 April 2011 - 12:44 AM.

[Paptala]

Thank you once again paptela, but i have more questions, srry lol.

So do you think NaruSaku is guaranteed?

Also do you think Naruto will die? I can see that happening something like him becoming Hokage then if he goes to fight Saskue and they both die or he just dies fighting saskue, which honestly just suck. I mean he is the main character and his dream is to become Hokage.

NaruSaku isn't guaranteed. Nothing is. Though it has had a lot of development and I don't need to say much more. It would be best if it did happen. Either that or Kishi just gives us a hint and ends in a cliffy. Which is unlikely so I guess you could say it is kind of bound to happen, in a way.

He could die. Not likely but possible. Most likely he'll live. By now we're getting close to the climax and I can see that he wont die. The one who's most likely to die is Sasuke. Really. He's saying that they'll both die when they fight but Sasuke will probably see the light or something near the end. Then either they both make it or Sasuke dies. The only way I can see Sasuke redeeming himself is by saving Naruto. And Sasuke's redemption is a big issue. So I doubt Naruto would die in the manga. He isn't immortal but He probably won't die in the resolution.

Pretty much exactly what Tax-Man said - nothing is guaranteed. The best term I think would be "most likely" to occur out of its alternatives, given its development and focus in the manga thus far.

Lol yea sorry for the questions, its just that I'm really new to all this.
And sorry Patala

No biggie

My exact sentiments. I totally hated Sakura during the whole of part 1. I thought she was the most useless character ever and hence rooted for NH. But wow Kishi had something planned all along. I started to like her more as part 2 progresses with how much she had grown and becoming an awesome ninja worthy of being Tsunade's successor. Very much like how Sakura hated Naruto in part 1 and started to develop strong feelings for Naruto in part 2. I'm a sucker for "hate you at first, love you alot later" characters. Ah kishi's a genius I hope he won't disappoint us and make NS happen.

YES @ the bolded part - I feel exactly the same. I never really liked NH, even in part one, but I didn't really like NaruSaku either until near the end of part one and the beginning of part two. Then I was able to go back and see all these signs that I had completely over looked before (like Sakura's blush and "What is this feeling? This is Naruto!" back in the Land of Waves arc).

I love your post Paptala, but i don't agree about only one thing.
You know about this time when Sakura healed Hinata : i really don't think she's upset about Hinata loving Naruto.
I think she's just touched by what Hinata have done.
Neji asked why she've done such a fool act, and just after, the panel switch to Sakura, thinking that : " Hinata... Naruto no kotto...." Which means : " Hinata... about Naruto..." and it's implied she's thinking that Hinata have done this because she must love Naruto. She understand so well what she have done, because she appeared to have done the same several times for Sasuke and Naruto.

I'm sorry if my english is no good ^^'

Maybe.

But for me, she's empathising to Hinata. Because she understands so well why Hinata run to help Naruto.
Of course she looks sad, Hinata risked her life. It's a grave situation, so she looks grave.
I don't see any hint that proove she's sad because another girl love Naruto.
What she said in the original (japanese) manga is : "Hinata, Naruto no kotto...." which means " Hinata, about Naruto..." if we translate litteraly.
It's clearly emphathy to me, and nothing else.
Maybe latter in the story she has think about "am i worthy of his love", but i think it fits more when Sai revealed her Naruto loves her.

I can see where you're coming from, and would agree if not for two things :

1) It's true that the original japanese version is "ヒナタ....あなたは...ナルトの事..." Which is literally, as you said, translated to "Hinata, about Naruto you..." However, if you look at the proper, formal, romance movie phrasing for a love declaration is "kimi/anata/omae/anta [insert person's name] no koto ga suki/daisuki da/de/desu/datte/datta"

For example, what Sakura said to Naruto in her confession was, "アンタの事が好きだって" / anta no koto ga suki datte

Therefore, the only thing missing from Sakura's statement "Hinata, Naruto no koto" is the 'ga suki desu'.

2) I have trouble in seeing Hinata being the focus of Sakura's upset feelings, as she is imagining a smiling Naruto in her minds eye, with Hinata herself nowhere in the panel.

It is Naruto that Sakura is focusing on, while thinking of Hinata's feelings for him. Hence, why I think that it's a moment in which Sakura's romantic feelings for Naruto are being subtly hinted at.

Now I wonder if we will get a lot more Narusaku moments, I hope we do what do you think?

I sure hope so I think we've still got at least one or two more moments coming.

Also some people say that Narusaku will become canon, what exactly does that mean?

That the pairing becomes official in the manga (ie they actually get together in the story).

Does that mean Naruto will become kind of like a romantic story? Do you think the show would continue even after the saskue thing is over?

Considering that Kishi said that the Naruto and Sasuke fight was one of the last in the manga, I doubt it. There will possibly be an epilogue, but I'm pretty sure that this is the last major arc in the series.

But if it is true then were f**cked, and what if saskue comes back good?

It doesn't make a difference is Sasuke comes back good, because he's never shown any romantic interest in Sakura in the entirety of the manga. He was never interested in her that way, and him being redeemed and returning to Konoha isn't going to make his suddenly fall in love with her when he's never shown any inclination of doing so before.

I definitely wouldn't worry about Sasuke returning Sakura's feelings.

I'm loving the posts in this thread! Especially ciardha's, tricksie's, Rikudo Sennin's, and The Tax-man's.

Edited by Paptala, 29 April 2011 - 12:51 AM.

[Living Lavish]

That was just an example I guess. But I can safely say it was more empathy and sadness than jealousy. That much is pretty obvious. You don't feel jealous in a situation like that.

never said she looked jealous i said she looked upset, sadness yes and finding out it was Hinata's love it bothered her.

[Otaru]

@ Paptala ^^

1) i've said (and i know) it's obvious Sakura is talking about Hinata loving Naruto, i'm not contradicting this at all, and the translation of the sentence doesn't change anything. =)

2) I think Sakura imaging Naruto in her mind is just Kishi resuming things in one panel ^^ If we exchange place with him, it's a good way to make things understandable to the readers. To me, it's no need to picture Hinata in her mind since she's already in the panel. I understand why you have this opinion, and i actually think myself it's a narusaku moment hinted a little, but i'm not seeing it the same way, like i said before. I really don't think Sakura is thinking about herself here, like someone said, i really don't see her asking herself some questions like "am i worthy of his love" because it's just not the moment, she's healing Hinata and concerned about her (and empathizing a lot). Maybe she thought a little about Naruto, but it's essentially about empathy to me. Although, the fact that she imaged him smiling could be a little hint of her own feelings, implied by Kishi. Your points are good i will be thinking about it ^^

Edited by Otaru, 29 April 2011 - 01:07 AM.

[Living Lavish]

Maybe, but there is no proof of it, it's just assumption you made.
Sakura is a pro medic. Honestly, it's not a time to be thinking about herself, she's not like that at all.
She's healing Hinata, and empathizing with her, and what she've done, but i'm pretty sure she's not thinking about herself here.

This said, i respect your opinion.

I have the raw manga, and i know what's written on it : " Hinata... Naruto no kotto..." that's all. It's quite the same as your sentence. But it doesn't change anything, it's obvious it's implied she's discovered Hinata loves Naruto.

lol its not an assumption. there is proof of it chapter 296 or 297. when Sakura is healing Naruto shes crys ''its always like this.... all i can ever do for naruto is the dumbest of things'' she insecure on how she cant help naruto in anyway. theres other instances of this in the manga.

wow its obvious shes pro medic .but thats dosn't mean her feelings didn't get caught up in what was going on specially involving Naruto her closest friend shes having confusing feelings for. add that up with all the development we had up to that point. the scene makes sense.

after she realizes Hianta loves him its shown that she was thinking of Naruto in her mind and her feelings got caught up in it. normal friend dosn't do that.

thats basically it.

Edited by Living Lavish, 29 April 2011 - 01:09 AM.

[Otaru]

I was only talking about that " it hit a nerve for sure. ", (not Sakura feeling insecure.)
There is no proof of it.
It's a guess you made.

Edited by Otaru, 29 April 2011 - 01:10 AM.

[Otaru]

There is no proof of it.

To me, the look on her face is empathy.
Since we have no proof, everyone can interprets it his own way.

[Living Lavish]

@ Paptala ^^

1) i've said (and i know) it's obvious Sakura is talking about Hinata loving Naruto, i'm not contradicting this at all, and the translation of the sentence doesn't change anything. =)

2) I think Sakura imaging Naruto in her mind is just Kishi resuming things in one panel ^^ If we exchange place with him, it's a good way to make things understandable to the readers. To me, it's no need to picture Hinata in her mind since she's already in the panel. I understand why you have this opinion, and i actually think myself it's a narusaku moment hinted a little, but i'm not seeing it the same way, like i said before. I really don't think Sakura is thinking about herself here, like someone said, i really don't see her asking herself some questions like "am i worthy of his love" because it's just not the moment, she's healing Hinata and concerned about her (and empathizing a lot). Maybe she thought a little about Naruto, but it's essentially about empathy to me. Although, the fact that she imaged him smiling could be a little hint of her own feelings, implied by Kishi. Your points are good i will be thinking about it ^^

yeah i agree she wasn't saying ''am i worthy of his love'' thats an exaggeration i wasn't thinking that at all. all im going off is from manga canon.
look of sadness on her face when she says it.Kishi choosed to show her thinking of Naruto. its a hint like Paptala said. so its empathy but then it bothered her feelings for Naruto.