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[Hiraishin]

Sakura's words aren't what matter its what Kakashi says. whether MS was right "All she wants is to be yours" or if MP is right "Didn't she just say she wanted you be her side (as Team 7)"

MS is the more accurate one here... Though 'all' isn't in the original.

[only Naruto]

Didn't you see what i said about evil people? Evil people ENJOY the suffering of others. Nagato and Obito did? Did they? I don't really want answer if we are going to start talking about morality...

 take it easy . i didnt say u were wrong about this nor that i have the right opinion thats why i asked. .i think that  the definition of evil is the answer . if evil  is enjoying the suffering of others   then u r right. but if evil is to do what u want  and killing whom ever be in your way . then i think am right too .  .or it could be that evil is levels  ..... anyway .sasuke is evil to me .not on the level of  evil obito  and evil nagato  .. if he isnt evil now after itachi and kages talked with him . there is no doubt to me sasuke was evil in the land of iron arch. . and i could be wrong surely .

 

[DarkRadeon]

MS is the more accurate one here... Though 'all' isn't in the original.

So Kishi wrote "She wants to be yours" ?

[Khaleesi]

 

 take it easy . i didnt say u were wrong about this nor that i have the right opinion thats why i asked. .i think that  the definition of evil is the answer . if evil  is enjoying the suffering of others   then u r right. but if evil is to do what u want  and killing whom ever be in your way . then i think am right too .  .or it could be that evil is levels  ..... anyway .sasuke is evil to me .not on the level of  evil obito  and evil nagato  .. if he isnt evil now after itachi and kages talked with him . there is no doubt to me sasuke was evil in the land of iron arch. . and i could be wrong surely .

 

Uhmmm, I thought I explained it well in my LAP...I'm talking from a psychological point of view, not morality.

Morality is subjective.

Edited by theunburnt, 29 September 2014 - 08:28 AM.

[Gojira]

It is like James told me once. Either he is way too smart for a writer manipulating us by the stuff he writes or...well he's totally lost his mind XD.

The more I thing about it, the more I think that it bends towards the former and NOT the latter. I am not even joking. A glaring evidence of this is Sakura's confession to Naruto in LOI. She said the EXACT same things which we are saying right now.

'All you do is Sasuke kun Sasuke kun Sasuke kun. You don't care what happens to you and you forget other stuff when you think about him' Isn't this what some people who were criticizing Naruto, said about him?

Sakura's love....don't even get me started on this. Sasuke's words seemed like they directly came from Kishi. It was as if he knows that he is writing Sakura that way. It was not to show her dedication or anything....it was just...like that. Sasuke's words really felt like Kishi was speaking to us readers on Sakura's feelings for him.

Sai' interpretation....again it was as if Kishi was speaking through him. And like the ones I mentioned, there are many other instances as well wherein it feels like Kishi is talking through the characters and he purposely portrays the characters like that and he wants us to give the reactions we give albeit....some instances. There are some instances where he has screwed up as well.

I dunno if I have again explained my stance well in here....but if its the way I am saying......that sly bastard knows full well what he is writing and how he is writing the characters. He probably has a plan chalked down as well. Now, whether it'd be convincing or not....remains to be seen.

Again that doesn't help at all.....Kishi criticizing Sakura through Sasuke just further confirms that he should know better.

[Gojira]

MS is the more accurate one here... Though 'all' isn't in the original.

That's lame.

 

Kishi literally has destroyed any past and future credibility NS will have.

[FireFox]

You know what? I actually laugh now when someone tells me that Sakura's emotions were platonic and the same as what Naruto has for Sasuke. While they are really like that, the way the author goes about portraying...is...well......you know. Naruto might confess his love for Sasuke as well.

Still wanting to save someone is not a reason for loving romantically  in short Kishimoto obliterated SS in here  once Sakura wakes up it over , it comes at the expense of NS development also but at least it will be over and done . 

 

He smiled and said "that's what i want to see". Obito was "manipulating" Sasuke, just as Madara did: To "wake up" to reality. He wasn't "happy" for Karin's suffering, for seeing her blood or something like that. He was contemplating Sasuke's situation.

 

@xxNarutoFirefoxUzumakixx

Remember that I told you I was going to write about possible scenaries? Freaking read it, then

You mean the link that you have posted ? I've read it  but don't agree with your last point at all  The rest was quite good  . 

[Gojira]

Still wanting to save someone is not a reason for loving romantically  in short Kishimoto obliterated SS in here  once Sakura wakes up it over , it comes at the expense of NS development also but at least it will be over and done . 

[Khaleesi]

You mean the link that you have posted ? I've read it  but don't agree with your last point at all  The rest was quite good  . 

About Sasuke? I expected that, but as I said, morality is subjective.

[Gojira]

If the whole point of her speech was that she wanted to be with Sasuke romantically and not just get Team 7 back together there really is no other way around Naruto being a silver medal just to make him look like a chivalrous prince charming.

 

The whole point of this is that Sakura will never stop loving Sasuke no matter how low he sinks, Kishi confirmed that she will end uup with Naruto he also confirmed through Kakashi that she wants to be with Sasuke.......

 

Kishi threw NS under the bus to make SS feel worse......what an kitten.

[AzureWaters]

Sakura seems to mention wanting to die with Sasuke. I hope that's wrong =/

[Gojira]

Sakura seems to mention wanting to die with Sasuke. I hope that's wrong =/

uh......what?

[FireFox]

MS is the more accurate one here... Though 'all' isn't in the original.

What he said "She wants to be yours " please tell me you are joking  .

 

About Sasuke? I expected that, but as I said, morality is subjective.

I'm not talking about moral or evil  Sasuke , he doesn't give a kitten about it I'm talking about him loving Sakura as an "if" options  he's not faking it Sakura's "love" only pisses him of   , she never impacts him on that level  and he was honest in here as well in P1  that's the part I disagree  if Kishimoto did that then he has created a shoujo scenario .

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 29 September 2014 - 08:42 AM.

[only Naruto]

Uhmmm, I thought I explained it well in my LAP...I'm talking from a psychological point of view, not morality.

Morality is subjective.

well .maybe u r right and i cant see it yet. . but as for now  ill stay with my pov.. 

 

[narusaku256]

Sakura seems to mention wanting to die with Sasuke. I hope that's wrong =/

Now.....for all I know. This...is NOT true.

@Pepsi Of course it doesn't.

@Firefox It is something like 'It is not always true that the one who cares about you, loves you. But it is always the case that the one who loves you, cares about you'

Sakura won't know what true love is unless she realises the nature of her love for Sasuke....

Note: I am not saying that right now, Sakura has romantic feelings for Sasuke but that she feels that her feelings for Sasuke are romantic. Based on how the writer wishes to portray her. So taking this into account....the nature of the roots of both Sakura's and Hinata's feelings for Sasuke and Naruto respectively.....are the same!

Edited by narusaku256, 29 September 2014 - 08:45 AM.

[Gojira]

Now.....for all I know. This...is NOT true.

@Pepsi Of course it doesn't.

@Firefox It is something like 'It is not always true that the one who cares about you, loves you. But it is always the case that the one who loves you, cares about you'

Sakura won't know what true love is unless she realises the nature of her love for Sasuke....

It doesn't what?

[Sakura~]

Fu** the romance in this manga :)

[AzureWaters]

On google trans I see the words "stab each other" in one of Sakura's lines.

[only Naruto]

Now.....for all I know. This...is NOT true.

@Pepsi Of course it doesn't.

@Firefox It is something like 'It is not always true that the one who cares about you, loves you. But it is always the case that the one who loves you, cares about you'

Sakura won't know what true love is unless she realises the nature of her love for Sasuke....

 is  the raw  out and ms were right about everything? 

 

 

 

@azurewaters.   

 

 

 if its true maybe she meant it like naruto told him ill die with u ?

 

Edited by only Naruto, 29 September 2014 - 08:48 AM.

[Gojira]

On google trans I see the words "stab each other" in one of Sakura's lines.

.....pretty sure that's a mistranslation.....let's wait for rikudou, ramenmitsu or.....Wait i think those are the only translators we have left both Megi and Sakuya-hime left.