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[narusaku256]

OHHH!! My lovelies! You talk politics when I'm not there?! 
 
I'm pretty sure I'll become a bit pedantic here. So pardon me dearests. 
 
 
Come un dito in un occhio. 
 
 
May I voice an opposing opinion pretty please dearest?
 
The EU is a work in progress. The US took years to work properly, and it started from a political union. The EU, other than being made up by countries with different languages and millenarian history (most of which was of wars and squabbles and antipathy between each others), starts from an economic union (starting from a political union was clearly impossible with nation-states that were so consolidated). It was a gamble but I'm sure it's slowly going towards a political union, but this takes times, and effort, and a great deal of will. People are much more inclined to look only at their backyard, so even only the fact that it exists is a good thing. But we are talking big scale politics and nation buildings, and the Union is still young. 
 
Ah, good old Spinelli's words on the Ventotene Manifesto. 
 
 
Yeah, I'm pretty much clearly a Europeist. 
 
But today for the first time, looking at the European Parliament, one could see a real political dispute going on. I think it's a good sign. And I see way too many people expecting the most perfect system happening in a snap of the fingers. This kitten takes time. 
 
(Plus, if one wants to think in terms of realpolitik and not of ideologies, european nations are small, very small, when compared with the other 'competitors' so banding together is quite the rational thing to do)
 
 
 
Eh, nation building has always been a long journey, but we only read of it in the history books, and the difference in print between between 1800 and 1900 is not that big, but we are kind of living this history now.
More than the idea of the 'big bad German' (oh, come tornano certe cose!) I'd say that the most power is in the strongest and most stable economy which, let's be frank, couldn't be anyone else but Germany. Paradoxically, Merkel is way less against the Greek debt restructuring than other small countries like Lithuania and Latvia. 
 
You are perfectly right when you say it exists only economically, but this is because it was chosen to be this way. There were a kitten-ton of theories that said that a political union would follow an economic one. This of course has not proven to be as smooth a passage as it was believed it would be, plus the 2008 crisis got in the middle of it all and kittened things up even more. But I'm pretty positive in the long run we'll get to a more politically integrated system. 
 
Still, I'm pretty sure we can bet our asses that Greece will be saved, especially in the light of the impending doom of the Chinese bubble. (ps. nun lo dicono in giro, ma hanno tutti le chiappe strettissime per questo).

Damn! You sound like a scholar of some sort, Lady Lys XD Long time btw! College sucking the life outta me and kittentons of assignments and kitten! Sorry I couldn't even drop in for a hi! College has been a bit....ruthless these days XD

Aaaannnnyway, based on your context of the words, I guess you guys are offering two sides of the coin. The way you describe UN, pretty much sounds like our country just on a different scale. I'll agree on your perspective when you say that the nations having different languages and history and stuff, sticking together for obvious reasons and all that; whatever you said for that matter. But my question to you rests on a specific term you used in there; it's 'Political Union'. If I am getting you right, then this whole thing is leaning towards forming a nation-state kinda thing. Correct me if I am wrong though. You are the master on the subject XD But do you think its really possible? Like you said, one cannot expect a politically perfect system at a snap of the fingers but my question to you is, is it possible given the differences and past rivalries between the countries? Because this is going to consume decades of councils and decisions and fights and debates ad controversies and kitten. Like I mentioned before, I have absolutely NO clue about the stable economies right now. So whatever I am saying might seem like firing an arrow in the dark. So about the system you are tryna' say, the EU as the point of context, is it sufficient for the revival of economies taking into consideration the monstrous debt that Greece is currently sinking in? I still am inclined to believe that political debate at a time like this is certainly not fruitful which is infact contrary to your opinion.

P.S - The concept of nation-state did prove to be effective in ancient times though. But it still did not comprise of the unions unlike now

This reminds me of my old debating days on this forum when Naruto made sense It's been a long time since I last used a language like this XD

Edited by narusaku256, 08 July 2015 - 08:19 PM.

[Lady Lys]

La Cina ci sta già conquistando, cara Lys... Neanche il tempo di svegliarmi stamaattina e mi ritrovo nuovi negozi cinesi in giro. In una cittadina da 20mila abitanti eh... Arrivano e crescono come funghi, everywhere. Persino il Milan sta per passare in mani cinesi lol

si si, ma io intendo la mega-bolla speculativa che gli sta esplodendo sotto il culo. Succederà un casino. 

 

 

 

Damn! You sound like a scholar of some sort, Lady Lys XD Long time btw! College sucking the life outta me and kittentons of assignments and kitten! Sorry I couldn't even drop in for a hi! College has been a bit....ruthless these days XD

Aaaannnnyway, based on your context of the words, I guess you guys are offering two sides of the coin. The way you describe UN, pretty much sounds like our country just on a different scale. I'll agree on your perspective when you say that the nations having different languages and history and stuff, sticking together for obvious reasons and all that; whatever you said for that matter. But my question to you rests on a specific term you used in there; it's 'Political Union'. If I am getting you right, then this whole thing is leaning towards forming a nation-state kinda thing. Correct me if I am wrong though. You are the master on the subject XD But do you think its really possible? Like you said, one cannot expect a politically perfect system at a snap of the fingers but my question to you is, is it possible given the differences and past rivalries between the countries? Because this is going to consume decades of councils and decisions and fights and debates ad controversies and kitten. Like I mentioned before, I have absolutely NO clue about the stable economies right now. So whatever I am saying might seem like firing an arrow in the dark. So about the system you are tryna' say, the EU as the point of context, is it sufficient for the revival of economies taking into consideration the monstrous debt that Greece is currently sinking in? I still am inclined to believe that political debate at a time like this is certainly not fruitful which is infact contrary to your opinion.

P.S - The concept of nation-state did prove to be effective in ancient times though. But it still did not comprise of the unions unlike now

This reminds me of my old debating days on this forum when Naruto made sense It's been a long time since I last used a language like this XD

 

Thankies! (I kind of spent 5 years studying this subject smashing my head against it HARD, so thankies for what you told me, it makes me go all fuzzy and happy inside <3 ).

 

Well, it's kind of difficult to explain the 'Political Union' in the EU sense, but take for example the US, the US is a political union born of previously independent states, but the EU is quite different so in this sense we can say that it is an 'oddity', a new thing. There's nothing similar to EU but EU so they are building something that never existed, and it's going to take quite a number of hit and misses. They are trying to build something that goes beyond the nation-state, but we don't know precisely what it'll be because it's the first time. Kind of like the first time a nation-state was born, people of that time wouldn't have been certain what it would evolve to be, they were used to different types of 'nations'/'states' (this term used in the loosest form, think about the feudal era, there were no states yet, at least not in the modern sense).

 

It's going to take a while, and it's going to be difficult and probably different, but in the most general way, the exact same thing happened in the 19th hundreds (and before if we factor England) with the birth of the nation states in Continental Europe. It's a leap in the darkness but I do assure you there is way less animosity between european countries now (even if they squabble and there is a king of antagonistic sentiment against Germany for its leading role and economic prowess) but now the idea of war is unthinkable here, between the nations of europe, and to think that only 100 years ago we were in the First World War, a war born between European nations. That's kind of a big progress no?

Economics, especially International Economics, is quite complicated now, because everything is tightly linked together and if one things moves so do plenty of others. But economically speaking Greece accounts for around the 2%of the GDP of the Eurozone (not the Union, only the 19 countries that use the Euro), so relatively speaking it's not much of an influence if we take into account the whole of the Gross national income of all those countries. And that's also why this debate is mostly political and still yet theoretical, because we don't know for sure what will happen, again leap in the darkness.

 

I do realize that this is all blindingly complicated, and I'm trying my best to explain, and try to include the different theories.

 

Still, YEP, we missed logic, didn't we? 

[FireFox]

LOL Its the same as UN and SAARC then XD

You could say that LOL XD .

OHHH!! My lovelies! You talk politics when I'm not there?! 

 

I'm pretty sure I'll become a bit pedantic here. So pardon me dearests. 

 

 

Come un dito in un occhio. 

 

 

May I voice a opposing opinion pretty please dearest?

 

The EU is a work in progress. The US took years to work properly, and it started from a political union. The EU, other than being made up by countries with different languages and millenarian history (most of which was of wars and squabbles and antipathy between each others), starts from an economic union (starting from a political union was clearly impossible with nation-states that were so consolidated). It was a gamble but I'm sure it's slowly going towards a political union, but this takes times, and effort, and a great deal of will. People are much more inclined to look only at their backyard, so even only the fact that it exists is a good thing. But we are talking big scale politics and nation buildings, and the Union is still young. 

 

Ah, good old Spinelli's words on the Ventotene Manifesto. 

Blame Casanova256  for that he started it without you

 

You mean you'll be more sophisticated then you are No problem at all . And yes you may love XD

 

What you say about the history and the ideology behind it is true , However when it comes to EU that process has many flaws bc of their inefficiency to deal with the problems the Union is having . The fact that EU is known for playing a double role and having double standards (braking the rules ) by putting the personal interest of individual global forces instead of the Union which causes crises such as like this and bc of this the smaller countries suffer they always turn to be the victims of their destructive politics that results in instability in the regions . This also prevents the EU expansion to progress which is the key to their ideology and its survival and why many predict that the EU will not last much longer but will collapse and its just a matter of few years before this actually happens . I can't even begin to explain how this all effects the Balkan which is so much kittened bc all of this . and the great Influence that America still has over Europe but that's another thing for another time LOL XD

 

Its a really nasty politic that's playing in here  that's for sure LOL XD.

[narusaku256]

si si, ma io intendo la mega-bolla speculativa che gli sta esplodendo sotto il culo. Succederà un casino. 
 
 
 
 
Thankies! (I kind of spent 5 years studying this subject smashing my head against it HARD, so thankies for what you told me, it makes me go all fuzzy and happy inside <3 ).
 
Well, it's kind of difficult to explain the 'Political Union' in the EU sense, but take for example the US, the US is a political union born of previously independent states, but the EU is quite different so in this sense we can say that it is an 'oddity', a new thing. There's nothing similar to EU but EU so they are building something that never existed, and it's going to take quite a number of hit and misses. They are trying to build something that goes beyond the nation-state, but we don't know precisely what it'll be because it's the first time. Kind of like the first time a nation-state was born, people of that time wouldn't have been certain what it would evolve to be, they were used to different types of 'nations'/'states' (this term used in the loosest form, think about the feudal era, there were no states yet, at least not in the modern sense).
 
It's going to take a while, and it's going to be difficult and probably different, but in the most general way, the exact same thing happened in the 19th hundreds (and before if we factor England) with the birth of the nation states in Continental Europe. It's a leap in the darkness but I do assure you there is way less animosity between european countries now (even if they squabble and there is a king of antagonistic sentiment against Germany for its leading role and economic prowess) but now the idea of war is unthinkable here, between the nations of europe, and to think that only 100 years ago we were in the First World War, a war born between European nations. That's kind of a big progress no?
Economics, especially International Economics, is quite complicated now, because everything is tightly linked together and if one things moves so do plenty of others. But economically speaking Greece accounts for around the 2%of the GDP of the Eurozone (not the Union, only the 19 countries that use the Euro), so relatively speaking it's not much of an influence if we take into account the whole of the Gross national income of all those countries. And that's also why this debate is mostly political and still yet theoretical, because we don't know for sure what will happen, again leap in the darkness.
 
I do realize that this is all blindingly complicated, and I'm trying my best to explain, and try to include the different theories.
 
Still, YEP, we missed logic, didn't we? 

Hey! You shouldn't be thanking me though You took the efforts, you broke your head over all this and what you are now is the by product of all that. So its you who has done the whole work XD But still....you are welcome

I see where you come from. I understand that it's altogether a different concept entirely. It's gonna have a few hit and misses...sure! But sometimes, some misses could prove to be fatal! I am sure you know where I am going with this. When the seriousness of the situation reaches a certain scale, you sure have to take into account its aftermath and negative effects, right? So although, UE is a different concept wholly like you say, there ought to be a direction as to where it goes, right?

In this context, you are referring to the great economic depression of Europe and Great Britain most specifically if I am not wrong? I...think the situation is a bit different now since then, the wave of depression wiped out all the leading economies. There might as well be less animosity as you say, but Germany still hold the keys. It still remains the potential manipulator being a strong economy at a time like this. Greece may account for 2% of the Gross Domestic Product as you say bit its economic pitfall is causing the collapse of other economies too! So the wave of depression is not just limited to Greece but it's moving. It affects all the economies, right? Like you said, they are all tightly wound. So, it's kind of a chain reaction since all of them are interlinked? How will Greece manage to pay so much debt anyway! And last but not the least, what do you think? How will the fall of Greece's economy and in turn the European markets and stocks affect the Third world? The developing economies most specifically? Not necessarily pointing at my country XD But just the whole...Third world in general...

Don't worry XD You are already doing us a great favour by bringing things on our level to understand and at the same time, pinning your opinions. I guess we should be...thanking you for that? XD

You have NO clue as to how much I missed it XD

Edited by narusaku256, 08 July 2015 - 09:15 PM.

[六道仙人]

si si, ma io intendo la mega-bolla speculativa che gli sta esplodendo sotto il culo. Succederà un casino. 

 

 

 

 

Thankies! (I kind of spent 5 years studying this subject smashing my head against it HARD, so thankies for what you told me, it makes me go all fuzzy and happy inside <3 ).

 

Well, it's kind of difficult to explain the 'Political Union' in the EU sense, but take for example the US, the US is a political union born of previously independent states, but the EU is quite different so in this sense we can say that it is an 'oddity', a new thing. There's nothing similar to EU but EU so they are building something that never existed, and it's going to take quite a number of hit and misses. They are trying to build something that goes beyond the nation-state, but we don't know precisely what it'll be because it's the first time. Kind of like the first time a nation-state was born, people of that time wouldn't have been certain what it would evolve to be, they were used to different types of 'nations'/'states' (this term used in the loosest form, think about the feudal era, there were no states yet, at least not in the modern sense).

 

It's going to take a while, and it's going to be difficult and probably different, but in the most general way, the exact same thing happened in the 19th hundreds (and before if we factor England) with the birth of the nation states in Continental Europe. It's a leap in the darkness but I do assure you there is way less animosity between european countries now (even if they squabble and there is a king of antagonistic sentiment against Germany for its leading role and economic prowess) but now the idea of war is unthinkable here, between the nations of europe, and to think that only 100 years ago we were in the First World War, a war born between European nations. That's kind of a big progress no?

Economics, especially International Economics, is quite complicated now, because everything is tightly linked together and if one things moves so do plenty of others. But economically speaking Greece accounts for around the 2%of the GDP of the Eurozone (not the Union, only the 19 countries that use the Euro), so relatively speaking it's not much of an influence if we take into account the whole of the Gross national income of all those countries. And that's also why this debate is mostly political and still yet theoretical, because we don't know for sure what will happen, again leap in the darkness.

 

I do realize that this is all blindingly complicated, and I'm trying my best to explain, and try to include the different theories.

 

Still, YEP, we missed logic, didn't we? 

Sì, ma tanto verrano coperti dai soldi della banca  cinese che presterà. Credo che basterà, credo eh...

[Rabbit]

Rapping early in the morning is tiring.

True True though the video quality is kind of meh I think XD .
 
You have multi personality disorder you're the sadomasochist Souchan  . Wait what !? . How dare you !!! You rotten stinky piece of Durian !!! You go to hell and be squashed by everyone .
 
NO !!! You can have them all they're your pets you even sleep with them .
 
Nope Wrong !!! My glasses have special anti reflex shield they repel everything back at you .
 
Hahahahahaha !!! Good Good you suffer !!! . Don't worry I have my Waifu for that . LOL even to -1% !? .
 
Oh Ok Ok We'll do it lets investigate . 

Art. It's art. I find old movies a beautiful art along with antiques, old books, comics and ads.

You are mistaken, senpai. I am hypocritical and do not have two personalities. I am clearly a sadist and I hate hurting myself unlike you, impotent Masochist unicorn General-senpai. Go bath in a tub full of acid and rot painfully, senpai.

They seem like you senpai. They want to live with you and kill you. So.. scorpions, rats, cockroaches, ants and tarantula then. In your face.


Your eyeglasses will break in half once I flick it.

I am not suffering. I am disgusted by the way you said it, you perverted masochist. Please keep your fantasies to yourself noda. My respect to you is now nonexistent.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

Oi, Rabbitto! 

[Popuri]

Hm, is she in team?

You can say that

[NarutoUzumaki01]

You can say that

Hm, Cat woman?

[Popuri]

Hm, Cat woman?

[Rabbit]

Oi, Rabbitto! 

Yaharoo~~ SHinpazaki. It's a nice rainy day in here.

[FireFox]

Rapping early in the morning is tiring.


Art. It's art. I find old movies a beautiful art along with antiques, old books, comics and ads.

You are mistaken, senpai. I am hypocritical and do not have two personalities. I am clearly a sadist and I hate hurting myself unlike you, impotent Masochist unicorn General-senpai. Go bath in a tub full of acid and rot painfully, senpai.

They seem like you senpai. They want to live with you and kill you. So.. scorpions, rats, cockroaches, ants and tarantula then. In your face.


Your eyeglasses will break in half once I flick it.

I am not suffering. I am disgusted by the way you said it, you perverted masochist. Please keep your fantasies to yourself noda. My respect to you is now nonexistent.

!?   

 

Yeah Yeah I know 

 

Yes you do , you're unconsciously a hypocritical sadistic masochist  that's why you fight your senpai bc you love the pain it gives you  . I'm not an impotent unicorn masochist  you demonic little zombie rabbit !!! You go bath in a pool of lava ,rot in there  get fried and get eaten by the hungry animals later !!!  .

 

Dafuq !!! Hell No !!! They're your creatures you're their mother so please keep them , may they feed of your flesh and rot in your bed for good ewww !!!   .

 

The only thing you'll be flicking is your fingers going straight in your eyes thanks to my glasses anti reflex shield 

 

That counts as suffering too  I was telling your fantasy not mine yoda  . What really I'm not even in the (-) zone !?  . How dare you !!! You can't do that to your senpai !!!  . 

[Rabbit]

!?   
 
Yeah Yeah I know 
 
Yes you do , you're unconsciously a hypocritical sadistic masochist  that's why you fight your senpai bc you love the pain it gives you  . I'm not an impotent unicorn masochist  you demonic little zombie rabbit !!! You go bath in a pool of lava ,rot in there  get fried and get eaten by the hungry animals later !!!  .
 
Dafuq !!! Hell No !!! They're your creatures you're their mother so please keep them , may they feed of your flesh and rot in your bed for good ewww !!!   .
 
The only thing you'll be flicking is your fingers going straight in your eyes thanks to my glasses anti reflex shield 
 
That counts as suffering too  I was telling your fantasy not mine yoda  . What really I'm not even in the (-) zone !?  . How dare you !!! You can't do that to your senpai !!!  . 

I was challenge into a rap competition by my stupid friend. She called early morning since she was bored.

It's the reverse, senpai. I criticize you, scorn you and insult you because I want to see you writhe in pain both emotional and mentally. I like to see you suffer. It must be you who enjoys being thrown in the pit. Yes you are an impotent unicorn masochist-senpai. Right back at you. Go bathe in an acid substance and be feasted by sharks.

Senpai, they are your minions. You should take care of them. Just let them eat your innards.

Then I'll flick your forehead and snap your neck.

It's clearly your fantasy. Remember your old gifs where you were obsessed with 50 shades of Grey. *insert disgusted look here* I can. No respect given to a pervert senpai.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

Hm, Spider woman?

[Lady Lys]

You could say that LOL XD .

Blame Casanova256  for that he started it without you

 

You mean you'll be more sophisticated then you are No problem at all . And yes you may love XD

 

What you say about the history and the ideology behind it is true , However when it comes to EU that process has many flaws bc of their inefficiency to deal with the problems the Union is having . The fact that EU is known for playing a double role and having double standards (braking the rules ) by putting the personal interest of individual global forces instead of the Union which causes crises such as like this and bc of this the smaller countries suffer they always turn to be the victims of their destructive politics that results in instability in the regions . This also prevents the EU expansion to progress which is the key to their ideology and its survival and why many predict that the EU will not last much longer but will collapse and its just a matter of few years before this actually happens . I can't even begin to explain how this all effects the Balkan which is so much kittened bc all of this . and the great Influence that America still has over Europe but that's another thing for another time LOL XD

 

Its a really nasty politic that's playing in here  that's for sure LOL XD.

 

What you say can very well be partly true. But the thing that is at the basis of many ideological dispute is the 'too big too fast' dialogue. Some would rather have EU get bigger and include all the other countries of continental Europe (not gonna speak about Turkey here, 'cause that's another whole bucket of fishes). At the end it depends on how integrated we want the EU to be. At the rate we are going (which is admittedly very fast) EU risks of becoming only a big and almost empty recipient of loosely tied countries, whose only link is economic. While personally I'm all about having more political integration between countries. I do feel, from my personal experiences - but this may very well be linked to my chosen course of studies - very european and not much different from a Spaniard, a French, a German, a Dutch etc. Younger generations are becoming more and more similar, not in a bad way, as we are all still very much different, but there is an emerging 'European Identity' that I do like very very much.

 

Anywaysss this is kind of a very complicated discussion, full of contradicting impulses.

 

But regarding the Balkans, you're totally right, it has always been the most problematic area and so far there's only Slovenia and Croatia in the EU, but apart form Turkey (which at this point I'm pretty sure will never enter the Union), all the other candidate states are Balkan States, and while I'm sure it'll take time, I'm also sure they'll all get in it. It'll be difficult and it'll take time, but I'm positive it will happen.

Fall apart? Nah, it won't. It's going to face a kitten load of problems, difficulties and obstacles, but it's too late for it to fall apart. 

 

 

 

Sì, ma tanto verrano coperti dai soldi della banca  cinese che presterà. Credo che basterà, credo eh...

 

Mah, al massimo la possono ritardare, e sono già anni che lo fanno. Non durerà in eterno sta strategia e prima o poi gli esploderà un vulcano sotto il 'chiul'.

 

 

Hey! You shouldn't be thanking me though You took the efforts, you broke your head over all this and what you are now is the by product of all that. So its you who has done the whole work XD But still....you are welcome

I see where you come from. I understand that it's altogether a different concept entirely. It's gonna have a few hit and misses...sure! But sometimes, some misses could prove to be fatal! I am sure you know where I am going with this. When the seriousness of the situation reaches a certain scale, you sure have to take into account its aftermath and negative effects, right? So although, UE is a different concept wholly like you say, there ought to be a direction as to where it goes, right?

In this context, you are referring to the great economic depression of Europe and Great Britain most specifically if I am not wrong? I...think the situation is a bit different now since then, the wave of depression wiped out all the leading economies. There might as well be less animosity as you say, but Germany still hold the keys. It still remains the potential manipulator being a strong economy at a time like this. Greece may account for 2% of the Gross Domestic Product as you say bit its economic pitfall is causing the collapse of other economies too! So the wave of depression is not just limited to Greece but it's moving. It affects all the economies, right? Like you said, they are all tightly wound. So, it's kind of a chain reaction since all of them are interlinked? How will Greece manage to pay so much debt anyway! And last but not the least, what do you think? How will the fall of Greece's economy and in turn the European markets and stocks affect the Third world? The developing economies most specifically? Not necessarily pointing at my country XD But just the whole...Third world in general...

Don't worry XD You are already doing us a great favour by bringing things on our level to understand and at the same time, pinning your opinions. I guess we should be...thanking you for that? XD

You have NO clue as to how much I missed it XD

 

'Holding the keys' and 'potential manipulator' looks almost as if we're talking about the great Germany of Otto Von Bismarck  (and I won't say the Third Reich, because it's best not to be spoken). 

 

Regarding Greece, while what you said is certainly the prediction of some researchers and many tabloids ('cause newspapers love the potential drama) we cannot be certain on how much an eventual default of Greece will affect the Union, especially in light of the new freedom of maneuver of the ECB. That's one of the reasons the UE hasn't simply lent the money to Greece yet. And I highly doubt the eventual default of a country as small as Greece (in the sense of its net weight in the international economics) would cause a world-wide economic crisis. 'Small Countries' and 'Large Countries' can have a very different impact, but, of course, that goes without saying.

 

The main problem is speculation and the disgusting role rating companies have in these matters (as those were the same companies that had the 'AAA' in 2007 on derivatives of companies that only days later would explode and start the 2007 economic crisis). Still we need to consider that this time there's the problem of the Chinese speculation bubble and there's also the fact that the ECB doesn't have some of the constraints of the years past.

 

P.s: I'm not much sure we could call India now a 'Third World Country', I'd say it's best to go with the acronym BRICS. But maybe that question would be better suited to reply by someone who studied economics?

 

 

Yes, I missed it too. 

 

 

 

But just to add some levity......

 

 

BANANAAAAA!!!!! 

[FireFox]

 I ended up in the hospital yesterday and this place still hasn't moved much  .

[FireFox]

I was challenge into a rap competition by my stupid friend. She called early morning since she was bored.

It's the reverse, senpai. I criticize you, scorn you and insult you because I want to see you writhe in pain both emotional and mentally. I like to see you suffer. It must be you who enjoys being thrown in the pit. Yes you are an impotent unicorn masochist-senpai. Right back at you. Go bathe in an acid substance and be feasted by sharks.

Senpai, they are your minions. You should take care of them. Just let them eat your innards.

Then I'll flick your forehead and snap your neck.

It's clearly your fantasy. Remember your old gifs where you were obsessed with 50 shades of Grey. *insert disgusted look here* I can. No respect given to a pervert senpai.

Hahahahahaha !!! Please tell me you recorded that !? .

 

 The hell I do  The only way for me to enjoy is if you're drowning in that pit too . I'm not an impotent unicorn masochist , I got tested yesterday by the hot nurse . How can sharks fest on me if they're in the acid too !? .

 

Nope Nope Nope I might send them to you for lunch   

 

You're to little to reach me how you gonna do that !?

 

That is not my fantasy , that was simply my method of punishing naughty ladies like yourself  and teach you a lesson bc senpai knows best . I demand respect  .

[Rabbit]

Hahahahahaha !!! Please tell me you recorded that !? .
 
 The hell I do  The only way for me to enjoy is if you're drowning in that pit too . I'm not an impotent unicorn masochist , I got tested yesterday by the hot nurse . How can sharks fest on me if they're in the acid too !? .
 
Nope Nope Nope I might send them to you for lunch   
 
You're to little to reach me how you gonna do that !?
 
That is not my fantasy , that was simply my method of punishing naughty ladies like yourself  and teach you a lesson bc senpai knows best . I demand respect  .

No. I was throwing a bunch of insults at her while rapping because she disturbed my sleep.

Your tsundere side is showing again, senpai. You can just go drown in the pit noda. And die. And die again. And die. Die. Die. Die. Die. You really got tested? Seriously? So you're now masochist unicorn soon to be impotent senpai then?

I will reach you no matter what, snap your neck and let your head dangle.

It's your fantasy noda. Senpai doesn't know what is the best. You're teaching bad things to children. I won't give you any respect.

[FireFox]

 

What you say can very well be partly true. But the thing that is at the basis of many ideological dispute is the 'too big too fast' dialogue. Some would rather have EU get bigger and include all the other countries of continental Europe (not gonna speak about Turkey here, 'cause that's another whole bucket of fishes). At the end it depends on how integrated we want the EU to be. At the rate we are going (which is admittedly very fast) EU risks of becoming only a big and almost empty recipient of loosely tied countries, whose only link is economic. While personally I'm all about having more political integration between countries. I do feel, from my personal experiences - but this may very well be linked to my chosen course of studies - very european and not much different from a Spaniard, a French, a German, a Dutch etc. Younger generations are becoming more and more similar, not in a bad way, as we are all still very much different, but there is an emerging 'European Identity' that I do like very very much.

 

Anywaysss this is kind of a very complicated discussion, full of contradicting impulses.

 

But regarding the Balkans, you're totally right, it has always been the most problematic area and so far there's only Slovenia and Croatia in the EU, but apart form Turkey (which at this point I'm pretty sure will never enter the Union), all the other candidate states are Balkan States, and while I'm sure it'll take time, I'm also sure they'll all get in it. It'll be difficult and it'll take time, but I'm positive it will happen.

Fall apart? Nah, it won't. It's going to face a kitten load of problems, difficulties and obstacles, but it's too late for it to fall apart. 

 

WoW you really weren't kidding when you said you're a big Europian Optimist  hehehehe lol XD .

 

Yeah I can agree to disagree to that .  Though I can say not many countries feel that way . Also yeah  with the "fast" integration is not that is shouldn't happen  it very well should  but the problem is that some of those countries that have entered weren't exactly fit for it bc they weren't developed enough and others are given to much liberty to act as they please , I think this is one of the big mistakes that they've done and why it will have troubles dealing with it in the long run .
 

 

Hehehehe You're right about that XD

 

Yeah the Balkan is a very complicated subject . But the biggest problem is how EU is exactly dealing with this issue and the fact that our countries are always the victims of the individual global forces . Ask any Balkanian and they'll all tell you the same that's why many of us hates the EU for her biased actions inability to act rightfully . I can point out my country being the biggest victim of this kitten after waiting a whole decade to enter EU after dozens of positive recommendations being the leader in our region and unrightfully being turned down every time  but I rather not bc its exhausting XD .

Oh and also one of the biggest problem for the Balkan is the fact that none of the countries have good relations with each other  bc of the great history they all have and many disputes and wars such things are impossible to work trough bc we're all to stubborn such is our mentality lol .

 

Well its already facing kitten load of problems and I can't say they're dealing well with it but time will tell  we'll see how this turns up to be XD .

[FireFox]

No. I was throwing a bunch of insults at her while rapping because she disturbed my sleep.

Your tsundere side is showing again, senpai. You can just go drown in the pit noda. And die. And die again. And die. Die. Die. Die. Die. You really got tested? Seriously? So you're now masochist unicorn soon to be impotent senpai then?

I will reach you no matter what, snap your neck and let your head dangle.

It's your fantasy noda. Senpai doesn't know what is the best. You're teaching bad things to children. I won't give you any respect.

Awwwwwwww !!! That's so much like you Sou-Chan .

 

 

Yeah Kind of  . I'm not a masochist unicorn !!!  I ma ferocious hot sexy wolf now  .

 

Yeah right !!! How are you supposed to do that .

 

Its not !!! It was for your own good . I do not teach kids that how dare you !!! Unless you think you're a kid . Either way you're bound to respect your Senpai , we have a deep spiritual bond  that you can't escape .