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[六道仙人]

Greece is the kittening hero of Europe. Against the fuhrer Merkel is a welcome. Always

Edited by 六道仙人, 08 July 2015 - 05:03 PM.

[FireFox]

Nice.....I must say you've come well prepared We'll fight....another time

*MAKES A LOUD SHRILL AND VANISHES*

The way Sam says it

No prob anytime

 

 

Yeah it give me the chills .

Which reminds me....all the EU citizens....how is Greece?

@Firefox...is your country affected by it too?

Nope we're good we're prepared besides we are not in the EU bc of them so...................... let it burn  what goes around comes around .

[narusaku256]

Greece is the kittening hero of Europe. Against the fuhrer Merkel is a welcome. Always

Sarcasm much?

[narusaku256]

No prob anytime
 

 
Yeah it give me the chills .
Nope we're good we're prepared besides we are not in the EU bc of them so...................... let it burn  what goes around comes around .

LOL XD Just one of those rare times you don't regret not being in EU? XD

[FireFox]

LOL XD Just one of those rare times you don't regret not being in EU? XD

Pretty much , kind of  LOL XD . I hope EU collapse bc they're all just a bunch of kittening criminals that plays with our nations *sign* 

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 08 July 2015 - 05:13 PM.

[六道仙人]

Sarcasm much?

Maybe. Or maybe not. Lol

[narusaku256]

Maybe. Or maybe not. Lol

I heard this was the first time when Euro went below the Dollar...is it true?

[narusaku256]

Pretty much , kind of  LOL XD . I hope EU collapse bc they're all just a bunch of kittening criminals that plays with our nations *sign* 

But you yourself said that it'd be better if Macedon was a part of EU And now you want it to burn?

[六道仙人]

I heard this was the first time when Euro went below the Dollar...is it true?

Yep. The UE is just a big failure.

[FireFox]

But you yourself said that it'd be better if Macedon was a part of EU And now you want it to burn?

Yes but that is as long as it exists  , but I think we're all better without it its complicated lol .

[narusaku256]

Yep. The UE is just a big failure.

Are there no chances for the situation to get any better than it is now?

[narusaku256]

Yes but that is as long as it exists  , but I think we're all better without it its complicated lol .

I guess you guys know it better but based on what Lys told me about EU, it seemed good though You guys know the internal stuff so I won't comment on that...

[Anthony]

hello¬ 

[FireFox]

I guess you guys know it better but based on what Lys told me about EU, it seemed good though You guys know the internal stuff so I won't comment on that...

I guess It depends of what aspect are you looking at it lol ,  but overall its just like Rico said its one giant big fraud  . But yeah better leave it at this or I'll start kittening at EU .

[FireFox]

 

Oi Fukurō I need your opinion on a Ukrainian  Movie XD . Have you watched this one  http://www.imdb.com/...4/?ref_=nv_sr_1  is it really good !?

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 08 July 2015 - 05:53 PM.

[六道仙人]

Are there no chances for the situation to get any better than it is now?

If there'd any chances, it will be a long journey towards a stable and positive situation in UE, until to when we will see a real light at the end of the tunnel. A matter of years. But the truth is that, until the UE system is in the hands of german banks and under the "dictatorship of Angela Merkel, the situation will be always black.
Greece is the first to fall because it's economically the weakest country in UE, it has the heavier public debt in UE and a flood of billions euros of debts towards banks (mainly german). If Greece falls, they will fall also in turn other weak countries economically, including Portugal, Spain and then Italy.
UE is a failure. It exists only economically, but not politically. Each Country makes its own business and thinks of its own interest. To define the European Unione a such thing is absurd and damaging.

[narusaku256]

If there'd any chances, it will be a long journey towards a stable and positive situation in UE, until to when we will see a real light at the end of the tunnel. A matter of years. But the truth is that, until the UE system is in the hands of german banks and under the "dictatorship of Angela Merkel, the situation will be always black.
Greece is the first to fall because it's economically the weakest country in UE, it has the heavier public debt in UE and a flood of billions euros of debts towards banks (mainly german). If Greece falls, they will fall also in turn other weak countries economically, including Portugal, Spain and then Italy.
UE is a failure. It exists only economically, but not politically. Each Country makes its own business and thinks of its own interest. To define the European Unione a such thing is absurd and damaging.

That...was pretty insightful XD Thanks for th explanation though! Though I just got the outline of it...it was still informative! I hope things get atleast close to normal foe you people :o

[narusaku256]

I guess It depends of what aspect are you looking at it lol ,  but overall its just like Rico said its one giant big fraud  . But yeah better leave it at this or I'll start kittening at EU .

LOL Its the same as UN and SAARC then XD

[Lady Lys]

OHHH!! My lovelies! You talk politics when I'm not there?! 

 

I'm pretty sure I'll become a bit pedantic here. So pardon me dearests. 

 

Aaaaah.... Ti piacciono i film di Nanni Moretti. I see.

 

Come un dito in un occhio. 

 

 

Pretty much , kind of  LOL XD . I hope EU collapse bc they're all just a bunch of kittening criminals that plays with our nations *sign* 

May I voice a opposing opinion pretty please dearest?

 

The EU is a work in progress. The US took years to work properly, and it started from a political union. The EU, other than being made up by countries with different languages and millenarian history (most of which was of wars and squabbles and antipathy between each others), starts from an economic union (starting from a political union was clearly impossible with nation-states that were so consolidated). It was a gamble but I'm sure it's slowly going towards a political union, but this takes times, and effort, and a great deal of will. People are much more inclined to look only at their backyard, so even only the fact that it exists is a good thing. But we are talking big scale politics and nation buildings, and the Union is still young. 

 

Ah, good old Spinelli's words on the Ventotene Manifesto. 

 

I guess you guys know it better but based on what Lys told me about EU, it seemed good though   You guys know the internal stuff so I won't comment on that...

 

Yeah, I'm pretty much clearly a Europeist. 

 

But today for the first time, looking at the European Parliament, one could see a real political dispute going on. I think it's a good sign. And I see way too many people expecting the most perfect system happening in a snap of the fingers. This kitten takes time. 

 

(Plus, if one wants to think in terms of realpolitik and not of ideologies, european nations are small, very small, when compared with the other 'competitors' so banding together is quite the rational thing to do)

 

 

If there'd any chances, it will be a long journey towards a stable and positive situation in UE, until to when we will see a real light at the end of the tunnel. A matter of years. But the truth is that, until the UE system is in the hands of german banks and under the "dictatorship of Angela Merkel, the situation will be always black.
Greece is the first to fall because it's economically the weakest country in UE, it has the heavier public debt in UE and a flood of billions euros of debts towards banks (mainly german). If Greece falls, they will fall also in turn other weak countries economically, including Portugal, Spain and then Italy.
UE is a failure. It exists only economically, but not politically. Each Country makes its own business and thinks of its own interest. To define the European Unione a such thing is absurd and damaging.

 

Eh, nation building has always been a long journey, but we only read of it in the history books, and the difference in print between between 1800 and 1900 is not that big, but we are kind of living this history now.

More than the idea of the 'big bad German' (oh, come tornano certe cose!) I'd say that the most power is in the strongest and most stable economy which, let's be frank, couldn't be anyone else but Germany. Paradoxically, Merkel is way less against the Greek debt restructuring than other small countries like Lithuania and Latvia. 

 

You are perfectly right when you say it exists only economically, but this is because it was chosen to be this way. There were a kitten-ton of theories that said that a political union would follow an economic one. This of course has not proven to be as smooth a passage as it was believed it would be, plus the 2008 crisis got in the middle of it all and kittened things up even more. But I'm pretty positive in the long run we'll get to a more politically integrated system. 

 

Still, I'm pretty sure we can bet our asses that Greece will be saved, especially in the light of the impending doom of the Chinese bubble. (ps. nun lo dicono in giro, ma hanno tutti le chiappe strettissime per questo).

Edited by Lady Lys, 08 July 2015 - 07:21 PM.

[六道仙人]

La Cina ci sta già conquistando, cara Lys... Neanche il tempo di svegliarmi stamaattina e mi ritrovo nuovi negozi cinesi in giro. In una cittadina da 20mila abitanti eh... Arrivano e crescono come funghi, everywhere. Persino il Milan sta per passare in mani cinesi lol