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[TsukiChan ♥]

Sakura didn't have a crush on Sasuke because she wanted to "beat" Ino, she liked him because he was "cool" and "hot". She didn't even KNOW Ino liked Sasuke! Yes, Sasuke did up their rivalry but Sakura's rivalry with Ino was not the reason why she loved Sasuke.

 

I dont know about that statement, but, Ino technically did like Sasuke first and was very close friends with Sakura....how did she not know Ino liked Sasuke?

[Aizen-Sama]

  
Sakura's primary motivation for gaining Sasuke's affection was to beat Ino.

It was ONE of her motivations but it wasn't all of it. She didn't think about beating Ino everytime she flirted with Sasuke. Also Ino already gave up on Sasuke and is with Sai. Why would Sakura still be hung up on Sasuke if Ino is no longer a threat?
This "love born out of rivalry" thing was bad enough applied to Naruto, it literally makes zero sense & is psychologically impossible.

[rocci]

 
I dont know about that statement, but, Ino technically did like Sasuke first and was very close friends with Sakura....how did she not know Ino liked Sasuke?

Blind by fangirlism.

[AHK]

It was ONE of her motivations but it wasn't all of it. She didn't think about beating Ino everytime she flirted with Sasuke. Also Ino already gave up on Sasuke and is with Sai. Why would Sakura still be hung up on Sasuke if Ino is no longer a threat?
This "love born out of rivalry" thing was bad enough applied to Naruto, it literally makes zero sense & is psychologically impossible.

Almost every time she mentions Sasuke, there was an inner monologue relating her beating Ino. Their chuunin exam fight was predicated on their rivalry for Sasuke's kitten. Ino didn't give up on Sasuke, her ending up with Sai is proof of that, not proof to the contrary. As I said a while ago, InoSai is only indicative of Ino moving on and maturing into someone that isn't a scumbag as a function of NS, as it shows that Ino moved on while Sasuke was single and available, not while he was taken. As it is now, Ino is a disgusting person because she settled for Sai because of the canon fact remarked by both Sakura and Ino, that he looks like Sasuke. The sad thing is that the poor bastard probably doesn't know that's the case.

[rocci]

It could be him. Could be. But Kishi took it to the heart by making him the reincarnation.

I have no idea why kishi need to incorporate peace and the chosen one theme.
This is not the matrix.... Oh wait, the matrix is his favorite movie.

Edited by rocci, 27 April 2015 - 01:13 AM.

[Tsuki Hoshino]

Literally everything you said applies to Sakura. Her love started the same way. If you accept that Naruto never loved Sakura, then you must also face the actual canon fact, that is established in the manga itself, that Sakura's "love" for Sasuke is based off of her desire to beat Ino. In the same way that you call Naruto a lying a**hole, Sakura is the same for the exact same reason. Even here you rabidly defend Sakura for not ever loving Sasuke but preaching to the world that she did, just as you crush Naruto for the exact same thing. The double standard is obvious and ridiculous. Sakura should be held to the same standards about Naruto, because the nature of their apparent "love" is the exact same. We're raising legitimate points about Sakura, yet you act like we're giving her the 3rd degree over the size of her breasts or something of equal nature. It's ridiculous.

What are you talking about?

Sakura apparently TRULY loved Sasuke the whole time. She never lied about LOVING him. Not once. She did not fake LOVING SASUKE to make anyone jealous. She didn't convince everyone of a LIE, she did not stand on a moral high-ground saying that she hated liars WHILE LYING or any bullsh** like that.

who did that again? oh yes, NARUTO. while he berated her in-front of all their companions and pretended to be hurt when infact he had no feelings towards her to warrant being hurt by a "false confession." 

So how are they on the same level?

Oh right, they aren't. 

Where in canon are Sakura's feelings for Sasuke stated to be out of rivalry? why is that she can't have had a CRUSH on him that TURNED to love, meanwhile Naruto's is never declared to be such a thing, its just stated that "You only loved me out a rivalry." which he seems to consent to being true. There is no "yea but...It turned into more." as we have with sakura. 

Naruto feelings were "fake" according to canon but also according to canon, Sakura had feelings for both Naruto and Sasuke at one time or another. So ultimately she becomes a VICTIM of two faced, fake ass Naruto. 

The double standard is obvious and ridiculous? no your attempts to place them on equal footing is whats ridiculous. Naruto is a scumbag who played with the feelings of others, he LIED to everyone and sold them on that lie. He will always be the lowest of the low for that. 


 

Edited by Tsuki Hoshino, 27 April 2015 - 01:30 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I have no idea why kishi need to incorporate peace and the chosen one theme.
This is not the matrix.... Oh wait, the matrix is his favorite movie.

It is? Well, why the hero didn't end up with the heroine? DONT GO THERE!....

[Illnevergiveup3]

what if Kishimoto really is some big mastermind? Lol. What if he's making the characters OOC on purpose?

[Tsuki Hoshino]

what if Kishimoto really is some big mastermind? Lol. What if he's making the characters OOC on purpose?

anything would be better then reality at this point i wouldn't even be mad. 

[harry4e]

You know what they say, if you aren't ready to raise a child, don't have children. If Sasuke wasn't willing to put in the time and effort to raise his child, (The birth mother might be up in the air, but the father is 100% Sasuke) then he shouldn't have got into a relationship that led to him fathering a child.

 

I don't care about the SS or SK part of it, that's a whole different issue, they are adults they can dig their own grave, I don't care about Sasuke's troubled past. He fathered a child, and never took the time to visit her even once in 12 years, missed all the important moments in this childs upbringing.

 

This makes him a sh*tty person, no excuses can make up for that. I think Jiraiya is a great charactor but to this day I still think he's a sh*tty person for not being there for his godson for the first 13 years, that's something that will always be a mark on his charactor. For Sasuke this much worse, this is a person who knew what it's like to be without a father for years, someone who craved his fathers attention, and questioned himself when his father used to look at Itachi with so much pride and he felt inferior...and he let his daughter grow up without him. knowing he was alive and out there but never coming home. To puit a child through self doubt knowing how that feels is the worst thing Sasuke has done in the manga. Atleast he had an excuse for his other actions, this is all his own doing.

 

SS fans from what I've seen seem to be hung up on him leaving his (maybe) wife for 12 years, they don't seem to care to much about him putting his daughter through the same doubt he went through as a kid when he wondered if his father loved him.

 

Chapter 700 showed how sh*tty Naruto was for putting his son through the same feelings of neglect as he felt, and now Chapter one of Gaiden shows Sasuke is a hundred times worst with his treatment of his daughter.

 

The only reason I can think of it not placing Sasuke in a bad light if Sarada actually turns out to be the child of that clone or imposter for the lame Sakura Gaiden, (though unlikely because then Sakura would have been pregnant in the NH wedding\funeral photo's.)

 

Oh and one last thing, If I was a betting man I'd put money on Sakura and Sasuke having another child by the end of this series. , just to rub in it in Sarada's face. Ofcourse they'll show it as her being happy because it's a childs job to forgive the adults, the adults can be pure evil but it's all fine, afterall, Obito only killed Naruto's parents and was responsible 50,000 casualties in the war right? I wonder how Shikamaru and Ino felt knowing what their friends view was on the person that killed their fathes?

Edited by harry4e, 27 April 2015 - 01:58 AM.

[Aizen-Sama]

 

I dont know about that statement, but, Ino technically did like Sasuke first and was very close friends with Sakura....how did she not know Ino liked Sasuke?

 

Whether Sakura knew Ino liked Sasuke or not is irrelevant.  Sakura did not love Sasuke because of her rivalry with Ino.  If she did, why does she continue loving him even though Ino already has a child with Sai? 

 

 

Almost every time she mentions Sasuke, there was an inner monologue relating her beating Ino. Their chuunin exam fight was predicated on their rivalry for Sasuke's kitten. Ino didn't give up on Sasuke, her ending up with Sai is proof of that, not proof to the contrary. As I said a while ago, InoSai is only indicative of Ino moving on and maturing into someone that isn't a scumbag as a function of NS, as it shows that Ino moved on while Sasuke was single and available, not while he was taken. As it is now, Ino is a disgusting person because she settled for Sai because of the canon fact remarked by both Sakura and Ino, that he looks like Sasuke. The sad thing is that the poor bastard probably doesn't know that's the case.

 

Sakura and Ino's fight wasn't about getting Sasuke's kitten, it was about Sakura surpassing Ino and proving herself to be her equal.  I think Sasuke was just an excuse, because Ino and Sakura weren't talking about who "won" him when they both woke up after the fight.  Instead they became friends again and Sakura continued to like Sasuke.  The one who could be argued about liking Sasuke only over a rivalry would be Ino, who deliberately flirted with him in front of Sakura just to make her mad.  Sakura never did any such thing.

So all the times in Shippuden that Sakura cried over Sasuke was only because she was thinking about beating Ino?  Ino did not appear in Sakura's head when Sakura felt guilty about being in love with Sasuke, when she confessed her love to Sasuke again in 693, or when she blushed when Sasuke poked her on the forehead.  It was only in Part 1 that Sakura competed with Ino for Sasuke's affections, the same way Naruto competed with Sasuke in order to get Sakura's love (except that according to canon, he kept doing it all through Shippuden)

How is Ino a disgusting person for moving onto Sai?  Sure he looks like Sasuke but who cares.  Maybe it's not Sasuke himself Ino liked but just dark mysterious types.

[Toasty Warrior]

Hey look, the actual photos inside Sakura and Sasuke's home:

 

[AHK]

What are you talking about?

Sakura apparently TRULY loved Sasuke the whole time. She never lied about LOVING him. Not once. She did not fake LOVING SASUKE to make anyone jealous. She didn't convince everyone of a LIE, she did not stand on a moral high-ground saying that she hated liars WHILE LYING or any bullsh** like that.

who did that again? oh yes, NARUTO. while he berated her in-front of all their companions and pretended to be hurt when infact he had no feelings towards her to warrant being hurt by a "false confession." 

So how are they on the same level?

Oh right, they aren't. 

Where in canon are Sakura's feelings for Sasuke stated to be out of rivalry? why is that she can't have had a CRUSH on him that TURNED to love, meanwhile Naruto's is never declared to be such a thing, its just stated that "You only loved me out a rivalry." which he seems to consent to being true. There is no "yea but...It turned into more." as we have with sakura. 

Naruto feelings were "fake" according to canon but also according to canon, Sakura had feelings for both Naruto and Sasuke at one time or another. So ultimately she becomes a VICTIM of two faced, fake ass Naruto. 

The double standard is obvious and ridiculous? no your attempts to place them on equal footing is whats ridiculous. Naruto is a scumbag who played with the feelings of others, he LIED to everyone and sold them on that lie. He will always be the lowest of the low for that. 
 

Earlier, in response to tricksie:

 

 

 

And herein lies the problem — if you accept that the ending scenario, which confirms that Sakura never moved on from Sasuke...then you also have to accept that Naruto only was attracted to Sakura because of his rivalry in the first place. 

 

According to the ending, Sakura never once feels bad for Naruto's 'unrequited love' — because, according to the ending, she knew it wasn't love, and love for her, at all. It was all about his feelings for Sasuke. She literally just laughs it off. And he goes along without blinking and eye. Shifting his affections, apparently in that moment, once and for all to Hinata.

 

The problem with blaming Sakura for never moving on from Sasuke is that if you do, you must, in the same breath, admit that it didn't matter anyway:  Naruto didn't love her to begin with. And she knew it all along. So there was nothing for her to move on to. 

 

The problem with what you said though is that if you accept all the things that you mentioned, you also need to accept the fact that Sakura didn't ever love Sasuke in the first place either, and that she "loved" Sasuke the same way that Naruto loved her, out of a rivalry with Ino. This is hypocritical of sakura in two ways:

1.) She laughed his affections off for loving her in the same way that she loved Sasuke, but her line "a girls feelings can't change" implies that her feelings grew into something more, yet she neglects to see that Naruto may have been jealous at first, but that could have grown into something more

2.)she was quick to declare Naruto never loved her and berated him for it, but if Sakura's love for Sasuke was borne the same way that Naruto loved Sakura, then Sakura needn't have moved on at all, because there was nothing to move on from, as she never loved Sasuke at all.

The problem is people are so quick to slam Naruto, yet they give sakura a free pass knowing full well that her love for Sasuke is the same as what Naruto's was retconed to be. Not only that, but they're hypocritical enough to say that Naruto never loved her, but Sakura loves Sasuke, and that Naruto's feelings couldn't progress into something more, while hers could. Not only that, but people forget that of the two scenarios, the only one with canon evidence to support then statement "love borne from rivalry" is Sakura, not Naruto. They're quick to call Naruto a scumbag, but Sakura is immune to it even though she did the same thing. The only difference between Naruto and Sakura is that she succeeded in her motivation to beat Ino. That's it.

 

If you accept that Sakura, who loved Sasuke to beat Ino, developed real feelings towards Sasuke, then you must also accept the fact that Naruto did the same. Keep in mind that the quote was never "all this time you only ever loved me to beat Sasuke". To say that Naruto's feelings couldn't develop into something more while Sakura's could is ridiculous and a double standard. 

 

Sakura lied to Naruto, and he had every right to call her on it. The way he did it was wrong, but he had every right to tell her. Sakura had the nerve to play love guru and say that Naruto wasn't worth Hinata's time. Not only that, she admitted to helping Hinata not for Hinata, but to get Naruto off her back. 

 

@bold, you must be joking. There is more canon evidence that Sakura wanted Sasuke to beat Ino than Naruto wanting to beat Sasuke. The entirety of part one is an example of that. In fact, there is zero evidence to suggest that Naruto loved Sakura because of Sasuke within the original source material. 

 

I am well within my rights to set them on equal footing as they are guilty of the same exact thing. Naruto apparently wanted Sakura to beat Sasuke, Sakura wanted Sasuke to beat Ino. You want to say that Naruto played with her feelings, I can say she did the same, which is fact. Hell, if I wanted to, I could also say that she played with his life, as she promised to actually help him, and in the end, did nothing but cry on her knees while he went off to potentially die, and then forget he existed as soon as Sasuke's johnson came into sight. 

 

So yes, it is a massive double standard for you to sit here and slam Naruto, yet defend Sakura over the exact same thing. We're not bashing Sakura mindlessly, we're bringing up legitimate points about her. Stop acting like she's above reproach. Its not like were saying shes a terrible person because her breasts arent big enough, were saying she is a terrible person because she is, just as Naruto is, just as Sasuke is, just as Ino is, just as Obito is, just as Kakashi is, just as Hiruzen is, just as Madara is, just as Itachi is, just as Fugaku is, etc. 

 

She is a terrible person, just as everyone else in this series is. End of story. 

 

 

Whether Sakura knew Ino liked Sasuke or not is irrelevant.  Sakura did not love Sasuke because of her rivalry with Ino.  If she did, why does she continue loving him even though Ino already has a child with Sai? 

 

 

 

Sakura and Ino's fight wasn't about getting Sasuke's kitten, it was about Sakura surpassing Ino and proving herself to be her equal.  I think Sasuke was just an excuse, because Ino and Sakura weren't talking about who "won" him when they both woke up after the fight.  Instead they became friends again and Sakura continued to like Sasuke.  The one who could be argued about liking Sasuke only over a rivalry would be Ino, who deliberately flirted with him in front of Sakura just to make her mad.  Sakura never did any such thing.

So all the times in Shippuden that Sakura cried over Sasuke was only because she was thinking about beating Ino?  Ino did not appear in Sakura's head when Sakura felt guilty about being in love with Sasuke, when she confessed her love to Sasuke again in 693, or when she blushed when Sasuke poked her on the forehead.  It was only in Part 1 that Sakura competed with Ino for Sasuke's affections, the same way Naruto competed with Sasuke in order to get Sakura's love (except that according to canon, he kept doing it all through Shippuden)

How is Ino a disgusting person for moving onto Sai?  Sure he looks like Sasuke but who cares.  Maybe it's not Sasuke himself Ino liked but just dark mysterious types.

Sasuke want just excuse, whenever they were in the same room, the first thing that happened was they'd get into a cat fight about Sasuke. 

 

Sakura didn't spend time crying in shippuden because of Sasuke, she cried because he wasn't turning out to be what she wanted him to be. Sakura never, not one canon time, thought about what Sasuke wanted, only what she wanted from him, the same as Hinata in regards to Naruto. She only ever thought about herself in regards to Sasuke, she never, ever loved him. When it came to him, only she mattered. That's why NS was truly the best ship, because they wanted the other to be happy, even if it cost them. Sakura's "love" for Sasuke was not love, it was a shallow and selfish obsession, where she self-inserted her into his life, when he clearly didn't want her there. She forced herself on him at every turn, when he never wanted her and never wanted to hear from her, 693 proves that.

 

Like I said, InoSai is only indicative of Ino moving on and maturing into someone that isn't a scumbag as a function of NS, as it shows that Ino moved on while Sasuke was single and available, not while he was taken. As it is now, Ino is a disgusting person because she settled for Sai because of the canon fact remarked by both Sakura and Ino, that he looks like Sasuke. She's self-inserted herself into Sasuke's pants via Sai, and its truly sad. 

[rocci]

It is? Well, why the hero didn't end up with the heroine? DONT GO THERE!....

You forget that the true heroine is sasu.... Hinata.

[TouKen4Life3g]

You forget that the true heroine is sasu.... Hinata.

I warned you not to go there......

[Illnevergiveup3]

Earlier, in response to tricksie:

 

 

If you accept that Sakura, who loved Sasuke to beat Ino, developed real feelings towards Sasuke, then you must also accept the fact that Naruto did the same. Keep in mind that the quote was never "all this time you only ever loved me to beat Sasuke". To say that Naruto's feelings couldn't develop into something more while Sakura's could is ridiculous and a double standard. 

 

Sakura lied to Naruto, and he had every right to call her on it. The way he did it was wrong, but he had every right to tell her. Sakura had the nerve to play love guru and say that Naruto wasn't worth Hinata's time. Not only that, she admitted to helping Hinata not for Hinata, but to get Naruto off her back. 

 

@bold, you must be joking. There is more canon evidence that Sakura wanted Sasuke to beat Ino than Naruto wanting to beat Sasuke. The entirety of part one is an example of that. In fact, there is zero evidence to suggest that Naruto loved Sakura because of Sasuke within the original source material. 

 

I am well within my rights to set them on equal footing as they are guilty of the same exact thing. Naruto apparently wanted Sakura to beat Sasuke, Sakura wanted Sasuke to beat Ino. You want to say that Naruto played with her feelings, I can say she did the same, which is fact. Hell, if I wanted to, I could also say that she played with his life, as she promised to actually help him, and in the end, did nothing but cry on her knees while he went off to potentially die, and then forget he existed as soon as Sasuke's johnson came into sight. 

 

So yes, it is a massive double standard for you to sit here and slam Naruto, yet defend Sakura over the exact same thing. We're not bashing Sakura mindlessly, we're bringing up legitimate points about her. Stop acting like she's above reproach. Its not like were saying shes a terrible person because her breasts arent big enough, were saying she is a terrible person because she is, just as Naruto is, just as Sasuke is, just as Ino is, just as Obito is, just as Kakashi is, just as Hiruzen is, just as Madara is, just as Itachi is, just as Fugaku is, etc. 

 

She is a terrible person, just as everyone else in this series is. End of story. 

 

Sasuke want just excuse, whenever they were in the same room, the first thing that happened was they'd get into a cat fight about Sasuke. 

 

Sakura didn't spend time crying in shippuden because of Sasuke, she cried because he wasn't turning out to be what she wanted him to be. Sakura never, not one canon time, thought about what Sasuke wanted, only what she wanted from him, the same as Hinata in regards to Naruto. She only ever thought about herself in regards to Sasuke, she never, ever loved him. When it came to him, only she mattered. That's why NS was truly the best ship, because they wanted the other to be happy, even if it cost them. Sakura's "love" for Sasuke was not love, it was a shallow and selfish obsession, where she self-inserted her into his life, when he clearly didn't want her there. She forced herself on him at every turn, when he never wanted her and never wanted to hear from her, 693 proves that.

 

Like I said, InoSai is only indicative of Ino moving on and maturing into someone that isn't a scumbag as a function of NS, as it shows that Ino moved on while Sasuke was single and available, not while he was taken. As it is now, Ino is a disgusting person because she settled for Sai because of the canon fact remarked by both Sakura and Ino, that he looks like Sasuke. She's self-inserted herself into Sasuke's pants via Sai, and its truly sad. 

lol, not to mention Kishimoto said Sakura-Chan's 'love' for Sasuke was selfish, and just a crush. I guess he just flipped Sakura-Chan's feelings to Naruto, and Naruto's feelings to Sakura-Chan. Not to mention, unless Kishimoto doesn't have any sense, there was no way she could have truly fell in love with him. 

Edited by Illnevergiveup3, 27 April 2015 - 02:21 AM.

[Shashank95]

The height of desperateness:

 

Guys really stay calm and strong.
Do you really think kishimoto doesn’t know what is he doing?
Why ? He is the same author who made sasuke did that precious poke on sakura’s forehead as ultimate expression of love .
The same author who almost killed us when sasuke tried to kill sakura but actually he loved her.
He is even him!!!
We doesn’t know anything it is only the first chapter , think carefully!!!
Why sakura had that taka picture ? We don’t know …why she didin’t destroyed it if there were the probabilty for sarada to see it? We don’t know!!
Why sakura is trying to cover sasuke and why sakura didin’t said anything to sarada about the uchiha clan?
We still don’t know!

Plus ! Don’t u think it was strange what sarada said? She said that “ for what she remeber ” it doesn"t necessarly means she remember well !
Have we the real real proof that Sasuke never come back ? What sarada said doesn’t mean it is what really happened but what she remember.
Every theory is possible at this point , also that sasuke was trapped for what we know , also that sasuke come every night to see sarada !
Also that sarada doesn’t remember well what truly happened!!!
C'mon guys , do you really think that kishimoto doesn’t know that showing sasuke as an absent father means kill his own character? Kishimoto is a father and kishimoto is the same man who is sorry with his children for being absent!! He know what a child feel when a father is absent!!

Do you think this is the message he want to convey to the audience?
Kishimoto by sarada’s word “ for what i remember i never seen him” is porposely opening the interrogative!
Kishimoto pourposely choose put those words in sarada’s mouth for a reason…. and why put those words in a little girl if he isn’t aware of the meaning of them.

Stay positive and read everything!!

lol SS fans amaze me

 

[rocci]

I acknowledge that sakura, ino, and Karin genuinely love sasuke.
Just like Hinata love naruto too.

What I'm not accepting is, kishi need to kitten on naruto own feeling.
Naruto genuinely love sakura. Just he doesn't pursue her, doesn't mean he doesn't love her.
Because in until chapter 699, naruto still love sakura, and kishi for whatever reason doesn't kill or neutralize it.

[Tsuki Hoshino]

Earlier, in response to tricksie:

 

 

If you accept that Sakura, who loved Sasuke to beat Ino, developed real feelings towards Sasuke, then you must also accept the fact that Naruto did the same. Keep in mind that the quote was never "all this time you only ever loved me to beat Sasuke". To say that Naruto's feelings couldn't develop into something more while Sakura's could is ridiculous and a double standard. 

 

Sakura lied to Naruto, and he had every right to call her on it. The way he did it was wrong, but he had every right to tell her. Sakura had the nerve to play love guru and say that Naruto wasn't worth Hinata's time. Not only that, she admitted to helping Hinata not for Hinata, but to get Naruto off her back. 

 

@bold, you must be joking. There is more canon evidence that Sakura wanted Sasuke to beat Ino than Naruto wanting to beat Sasuke. The entirety of part one is an example of that. In fact, there is zero evidence to suggest that Naruto loved Sakura because of Sasuke within the original source material. 

 

I am well within my rights to set them on equal footing as they are guilty of the same exact thing. Naruto apparently wanted Sakura to beat Sasuke, Sakura wanted Sasuke to beat Ino. You want to say that Naruto played with her feelings, I can say she did the same, which is fact. Hell, if I wanted to, I could also say that she played with his life, as she promised to actually help him, and in the end, did nothing but cry on her knees while he went off to potentially die, and then forget he existed as soon as Sasuke's johnson came into sight. 

 

So yes, it is a massive double standard for you to sit here and slam Naruto, yet defend Sakura over the exact same thing. We're not bashing Sakura mindlessly, we're bringing up legitimate points about her. Stop acting like she's above reproach. Its not like were saying shes a terrible person because her breasts arent big enough, were saying she is a terrible person because she is, just as Naruto is, just as Sasuke is, just as Ino is, just as Obito is, just as Kakashi is, just as Hiruzen is, just as Madara is, just as Itachi is, just as Fugaku is, etc. 

 

She is a terrible person, just as everyone else in this series is. End of story. 

 

Sasuke want just excuse, whenever they were in the same room, the first thing that happened was they'd get into a cat fight about Sasuke. 

 

Sakura didn't spend time crying in shippuden because of Sasuke, she cried because he wasn't turning out to be what she wanted him to be. Sakura never, not one canon time, thought about what Sasuke wanted, only what she wanted from him, the same as Hinata in regards to Naruto. She only ever thought about herself in regards to Sasuke, she never, ever loved him. When it came to him, only she mattered. That's why NS was truly the best ship, because they wanted the other to be happy, even if it cost them. Sakura's "love" for Sasuke was not love, it was a shallow and selfish obsession, where she self-inserted her into his life, when he clearly didn't want her there. She forced herself on him at every turn, when he never wanted her and never wanted to hear from her, 693 proves that.

 

Like I said, InoSai is only indicative of Ino moving on and maturing into someone that isn't a scumbag as a function of NS, as it shows that Ino moved on while Sasuke was single and available, not while he was taken. As it is now, Ino is a disgusting person because she settled for Sai because of the canon fact remarked by both Sakura and Ino, that he looks like Sasuke. She's self-inserted herself into Sasuke's pants via Sai, and its truly sad. 

Because you keep missing the point, and I don't see the point in repeatedly wasting my time; 

 

What are you talking about?

Sakura apparently TRULY loved Sasuke the whole time. She never lied about LOVING him. Not once. She did not fake LOVING SASUKE to make anyone jealous. She didn't convince everyone of a LIE, she did not stand on a moral high-ground saying that she hated liars WHILE LYING or any bullsh** like that.

who did that again? oh yes, NARUTO. while he berated her in-front of all their companions and pretended to be hurt when infact he had no feelings towards her to warrant being hurt by a "false confession." 

So how are they on the same level?

Oh right, they aren't. 

Where in canon are Sakura's feelings for Sasuke stated to be out of rivalry? why is that she can't have had a CRUSH on him that TURNED to love, meanwhile Naruto's is never declared to be such a thing, its just stated that "You only loved me out a rivalry." which he seems to consent to being true. There is no "yea but...It turned into more." as we have with sakura. 

Naruto feelings were "fake" according to canon but also according to canon, Sakura had feelings for both Naruto and Sasuke at one time or another. So ultimately she becomes a VICTIM of two faced, fake ass Naruto. 

The double standard is obvious and ridiculous? no your attempts to place them on equal footing is whats ridiculous. Naruto is a scumbag who played with the feelings of others, he LIED to everyone and sold them on that lie. He will always be the lowest of the low for that. 


 

Naruto tells other people not to lie, while lying. Naruto kittenes at Sakura for "Lying" when he has ALWAYS been lying to her and everyone else.

Thats what makes him a scumbag and her his victim.

Everything else you say will always fall flat in light of that. ALWAYS. 

 

[Shashank95]

 

Yup, that is a true family photo right there. Happy.

 

What happened to Naruto? Corporate greed happened to Naruto. A need to continue the story with a large fanbase. I mean if they come out with a part 3...How better would it have been for the story to loose its entire NH and SS fanbase? They simply took a calculation and decided on it. If this is true, then Hinata will hardly appear throughout this 10 chapters.

 

But there is no doubt...this story has lost its popularity.

 

 

As for family photos, here is one, which in my opinion is the crowning jewel of Happy Endings.

 

 

Look at Ed and his son having such dorky smiles.

 

Look at Winry and her adorable little girl...with pigtails...Ohhhh so cuuuute.

 

 

I know this is mean but damn.....