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[NarutoUzumaki01]

Deku is so bad in comparing to Mirio, when you see such character, Deku's character development seems so Irrelevant.

[AHK]

To me it's not really about who gets to save Eri first, but how big the buildup during this arc is to save Eri. I'm assuming that Mirio will somehow "lose" Eri again, and then it's up to Deku to save her once and for all.

  
It isn't hatche got there first, but Eri seeing him as opposed to Deku. I know Mirio will somehow lose, but I think it takes away from the impact of Deku saving her. Deku was the one she was clinging to in the alleyway, and now Mirio is the one to come to her aid as opposed to Deku. It's hard for me to explain, but I feel like it could potentially take away from the relationship of Eri and Mirio. Especially when it seems to be built such that Deku will be an older brother figure to her.

Deku is so bad in comparing to Mirio, when you see such character, Deku's character development seems so Irrelevant.

Lol what? Demi's character development is easily the best in the series.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

Lol what? Demi's character development is easily the best in the series.

In comparing to Mirio, it's like a story of why 3rd background character became 2nd one, lul. I'm not dissing Deku, but he's really need something unique 

Edited by NarutoUzumaki01, 29 August 2017 - 12:52 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

He needs deus ex machina? Plus, isn't Mirio top tier? Shouldn't that be understandable enough to justify his triumphant?

Edited by TouKen4Life3g, 29 August 2017 - 12:54 PM.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

He needs deus ex machina? Plus, isn't Mirio top tier? Shouldn't that be understandable enough to justify his triumphant?

He needs something to justify his role, first it was saving kachan, but now author making "wasn't meant to be succesor" plotline. Maybe it's me looking for an standart shounen, but for now world/setting is more intresting than a story of mc, for me at least.

[TouKen4Life3g]

He needs something to justify his role, first it was saving kachan, but now author making "wasn't meant to be succesor" plotline. Maybe it's me looking for an standart shounen, but for now world/setting is more intresting than a story of mc, for me at least.

Standard versus Modern, I see. Well, the series is treated more "down to Earth" feel, hence I see how people are more attached to this than others. At least that's how I see it.

[Phantom_999]

Deku is so bad in comparing to Mirio, when you see such character, Deku's character development seems so Irrelevant.

 

Eh, that is the point actually. He's not meant to be unique per say and of course his back story and struggles are bland because he had nothing to begin with. I think that things will get more interesting if or when Deku's self sacrificing mindset gets called out on, as in someone calls into question, "how much is sacrificing yourself for another person really worth"? Because to be honest, while Deku and All Might have a genuine heroic morality, their ideals of sacrificing themselves for others has been deconstructed in the story so far and it will be very interesting to see a character point it out.

[AHK]

Chapter goes back to what I said, there's no way that Deku could be more important to zero after this chapter with the whole "I'll be your hero" thing or whatever. What a complete waste. I really do get the feeling that the author doesn't like to do justice to Deku. At first it was the stupid tournament where Deku lost, then there's the ridiculous "friendship" with Bakugou, then this.

How do you build up Deku being her role model, and just rip that crap away in two chapters? A dumb development, I think.

[Phantom_999]

Deku could be the one who saves her at the last second

[Frankie]

I think it's being setup for Mirio to die, make Eri give up hope, then Deku shows up and saves her, fulfilling where Mirio failed.

And Deku losing the tournament doesn't bother me as it gave way for Todoroki's amazing development. But yeah, his friendship with Bakugo needs some adjusting.

[AHK]

Deku could be the one who saves her at the last second

It isn't about saving her, it's about the impact Deku has on her. How is anything he says going to even be remotely close to the impact Mirio had with his declaration this chapter?

I think it's being setup for Mirio to die, make Eri give up hope, then Deku shows up and saves her, fulfilling where Mirio failed.
And Deku losing the tournament doesn't bother me as it gave way for Todoroki's amazing development. But yeah, his friendship with Bakugo needs some adjusting.

Maybe, but even then that would still take away from Dekus' overall impact on her.

Deku's loss in the tournament really annoyed me for two reason, one being that he had done so well and was clearly the best performer overall in the tournament, only to have that thrown away so he can become a prop for someone else's character development. Secondly, the fact that Bakugou won is kittening stupid as well.

Deku is such a handicapped character that handicapping things like his relationship with others (Eri) or his character is not necessary, and yet it's continually done. If you have to sacrifice someone's character to move forward, you're probably doing something wrong, even more so if that character is your main character.

[Phantom_999]

Shrugs* true But the thing is Deku already left an emotional impact on Eri already. She remembers his touch was very warm and kind so she would propably be very glad to see him if anything. Sure, Mirio made a huge impression on her, I don 't think it negates the foreshadowing the Deku will be the greatest comfort and change in Eri's emotional scars. Besides I recall correctly that they said this fight was a 3 minute rewind from when we saw Deku and Eraser head so something could still happen. Just wait and see

Edited by Phantom_999, 02 September 2017 - 09:06 PM.

[Liu bie]

Did second  season of the anime already ended?

[Phantom_999]

not yet, 4 episodes left

[trang95]

It isn't about saving her, it's about the impact Deku has on her. How is anything he says going to even be remotely close to the impact Mirio had with his declaration this chapter?
Maybe, but even then that would still take away from Dekus' overall impact on her.

Deku's loss in the tournament really annoyed me for two reason, one being that he had done so well and was clearly the best performer overall in the tournament, only to have that thrown away so he can become a prop for someone else's character development. Secondly, the fact that Bakugou won is kittening stupid as well.

Deku is such a handicapped character that handicapping things like his relationship with others (Eri) or his character is not necessary, and yet it's continually done. If you have to sacrifice someone's character to move forward, you're probably doing something wrong, even more so if that character is your main character.

I personally find it hard to understand how Mirio impacting Eri first diminishes Deku's incoming impact on Eri. I mean, I've read your reasoning, but I just don't feel that way due to our different expectations of how Deku should get developed as a main character.

"How is anything he says going to even be remotely close to the impact Mirio had with his declaration this chapter?"

So to you, it doesn't matter how Deku will later on rescue Eri- it's already too late to correct the issue you already have with Mirio, right? I personally have no doubt that I (and most others) will be "satisfied" with the way Deku will influence Eri. I don't see Deku being used to develop Mirio in this case or Deku's development being interrupted by Mirio's development.

[Liu bie]

To be continue

 

[Phantom_999]

Well those are pretty accurate lol

[Liu bie]

More :

 

[AHK]

I personally find it hard to understand how Mirio impacting Eri first diminishes Deku's incoming impact on Eri. I mean, I've read your reasoning, but I just don't feel that way due to our different expectations of how Deku should get developed as a main character.

"How is anything he says going to even be remotely close to the impact Mirio had with his declaration this chapter?"

So to you, it doesn't matter how Deku will later on rescue Eri- it's already too late to correct the issue you already have with Mirio, right? I personally have no doubt that I (and most others) will be "satisfied" with the way Deku will influence Eri. I don't see Deku being used to develop Mirio in this case or Deku's development being interrupted by Mirio's development.

Consider today's chapter. It got to the point that Mirio will permanently lose his quirk to save her. What could Deku ever do to even come close to that?

 

It just feels like some of the bigger side characters develop at the expense of Deku's. Todoroki got developed at the expense of Deku in the tournament. Bakugou, inexcusably, gets developed in a way that casts a bad light on Deku, because for some kittening reason, Deku wants to be friends with someone that has tormented him since childhood. And now with this, Deku is in the process of getting a relationship that was built up and foreshadowed ripped from him because of the actions of another side character.

 

 It's just a theme that Deku seems to get his growth stunted because the author doesn't properly balance Deku with the side characters. 

[LuckyChi7]

Alright you guys get your snack and drinks ready cause I'm going to be doing a catch up Live Reaction from 150-152 (the latest chapter):