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#261 TouKen4Life3g

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Posted 25 February 2016 - 11:31 PM

I'm a bit torn.

On one hand, it's not bad to see him again. On the other, his flashback more or less seem selfish, like he rather die than taking care of Naruto. I guess I can say I will agree to certain extent. Granted, it's the only revival I wouldn't mind that much, but the way we got could have been done much better.

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Posted 25 February 2016 - 11:52 PM

Statement: If SasuSaku was more done in a comedy and revamped as Sasuke not being a jerk to Sakura such as "you're annoying", (think as Juvia and Gray from Fairy Tail but evil Sasuke in part 2 days stay), perhaps the pairing won't be as bad as now and it can be at least "acceptable."

Agree or disagree?

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Posted 25 February 2016 - 11:56 PM

Disagree. SS(like NH) doesn't work form me. 


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Posted 26 February 2016 - 12:09 AM

Statement: If SasuSaku was more done in a comedy and revamped as Sasuke not being a jerk to Sakura such as "you're annoying", (think as Juvia and Gray from Fairy Tail but evil Sasuke in part 2 days stay), perhaps the pairing won't be as bad as now and it can be at least "acceptable."

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If evil Sasuke from Part 2 still remains than no it would work, regardless of how comedic their relationship from Part 1 was.

It's still Sakura ending up with a man who tried to kill her

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Posted 26 February 2016 - 12:24 AM

Statement: If SasuSaku was more done in a comedy and revamped as Sasuke not being a jerk to Sakura such as "you're annoying", (think as Juvia and Gray from Fairy Tail but evil Sasuke in part 2 days stay), perhaps the pairing won't be as bad as now and it can be at least "acceptable."

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The problem with ss is sasuke doesn't have romantic feeling for sakura.
Even if he's evil as long as he has feeling to sakura it will not be one side.
The right comparison would be erza and Jerald.

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Posted 26 February 2016 - 12:33 AM

The problem with ss is sasuke doesn't have romantic feeling for sakura.
Even if he's evil as long as he has feeling to sakura it will not be one side.
The right comparison would be erza and Jerald.

I used the one I said because one is obsessed. Neither of them are obsessed but the story is similar part 2 wise I'll give you that. Yes, Gruvia is more to SasuKarin but this is something I want to see what you think.

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Posted 26 February 2016 - 03:15 PM

The problem is that in Fairy Tail if you were to compare it to a pairing in Naruto could be SS, nH, or SK. The differences is that it is completely obvious that GJ is suppose to be comedic (serious mind you but still comedic). Fairy Tail also has a much more comedic tone then Naruto. The only pairings that had any levity in Naruto was NS and JT.

 

Another thing is how the male behave, their role in the story, and how they reacted to the girl that has a crush on them. Sasuke is a cold and distant guy and was completely unsociable. Who leaves the village and for most of part two was sliding down into villainy. Grey was a cool laid-back guy who was very sociable. He never turned fully evil he was always just the guy the main character had a rivalry with. As for how they reacted to their crush. Sasuke with sheer annoyance and disdain to anything Sakura did. Grey reacted with various emotion shock, confusion, embarrassment, but never disdain. Those difference are why GJ work and SS doesn't. You can see GJ spending time with each other, growing closer together, and developing an admittedly weird but healthy relationship. SS have never spent time with each other where Sasuke didn't treat Sakura with complete contempt most of the time and at best of times mere tolerance, they only grew farther apart as the series went on, and all of this has lead to developing a toxic unhealthy relationship.


Edited by Bail o' Lies, 28 February 2016 - 08:27 PM.


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Posted 26 February 2016 - 04:41 PM

 

Agree. I felt like the more panels we had with Minato, the less power and impact he had as a character. Some of it was the fact that we found out his fancy technique was kind of a knockoff. A lot of it was the fact that it wasn't even Naruto who got to go to the Uzumaki Temple. But all in all, he was another aspect of the War Arc that seemed like a good idea in theory, but was dragged on and on to the point that it really was a detraction.

i saw it as kishi nerfing him to high hell. minato was too damn powerful. i'll always see the FTG as minato's techinque and that kishi just gave tobirama the ability later on as a retcon because he just didn't have any ideas.

 

when minato and the kages came onto the scene with the juubi, it was great. i felt safe for the characters and thought everythings gonna be ok now. but kishi decided to give minato PiS and make him lose both arms. also having him not sense naruto's death while being busy with a half dead half alive zetsu/obito.


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Posted 26 February 2016 - 04:48 PM

Statement: The flashback and the return of Minato did more harm than good to his character.

Agree or disagree?

Agree

 

Minato and sakura's interaction scenes were great and was the only good thing that came out of reviving him..


Edited by Advaith, 26 February 2016 - 04:50 PM.


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Posted 26 February 2016 - 05:00 PM

Agree

 

Minato and sakura's interaction scenes were great and was the only good thing that came out of reviving him..

well looking at the ending that doesn't matter anymore sooo



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Posted 26 February 2016 - 06:39 PM

well looking at the ending that doesn't matter anymore sooo

Well it helps damage nH and the franchise when people can point it out. So it still a good thing for us not the franchise.



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Posted 26 February 2016 - 07:29 PM

Statement: If SasuSaku was more done in a comedy and revamped as Sasuke not being a jerk to Sakura such as "you're annoying", (think as Juvia and Gray from Fairy Tail but evil Sasuke in part 2 days stay), perhaps the pairing won't be as bad as now and it can be at least "acceptable."

Agree or disagree?

Disagree, because you would still have to disregard all the NS Development that had to be ignored/incinerated by the end, not to mention Part two Sasuke 1, tries to kill her indirectly/directly 2. Tries and  threatens to kill people she cares about. 3. Is over all a complete Nut job. 4. is an absentee husband/dad.  :superior: 

Part 1 Sasuke wasn't even that big of a Jerk to her. Part 2 Sasuke is and always will be the insurmountable issue of SS. 


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Posted 26 February 2016 - 10:16 PM

@catra
Actually, Minato is weak.
He's op to fodder but not for the like of madara.
Why do you think kishi suddenly give him sage mode and mastering Kyubi mode?

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Posted 27 February 2016 - 09:57 PM

I disagree. The killing intent really hurts it.

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Posted 27 February 2016 - 10:01 PM

Statement: In hindsight, Sasuke/Sai Arc was practically a meaningless arc for Team 7.

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Posted 27 February 2016 - 10:23 PM

Statement: In hindsight, Sasuke/Sai Arc was practically a meaningless arc for Team 7.

Agree or disagree?

Agree because its clear now that Sai really meant nothing in terms of Team 7 after all :zaru:

For that matter neither did Yamato.

Sai was meaningless in the end too when you think about it....And i LIKED Sai more then i EVER liked Sasuke.  :argh: so i'm not hating on him or anything...he just got shafted like everyone not named Hinata/Sasuke. 


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Posted 27 February 2016 - 10:26 PM

Statement: In hindsight, Sasuke/Sai Arc was practically a meaningless arc for Team 7.

Agree or disagree?

Disagree.

I am guessing you mean the part with the Heaven and Earth bridge right? I don't think it was meaningless, but the meaning was lost over time and it was never brought back up or used properly. It could have been a good chance to showcase actual depth and character being hit with "armor piercing questions," but it is true that any meaning was lost due to the ending. Of course, all scenes in the series became meaningless thanks to the ending and Team 7 doesn't exist period anymore.

Might as well ask "In hindsight, was the entire Naruto series practically meaningless?"

And with that we can all agree now...XD


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Posted 27 February 2016 - 10:55 PM

Agree.

 

The only point of the arc was to reveal Sasuke and introduce Sai.  But nothing else substantial happened sense it didn`t change Naruto`s opinion about Sasuke and Sai pretty much ended his character arc right then and there.  Really, if this arc just got it through Naruto and Sakura`s heads that Sasuke just didn't want to be saved and just focused there time on more important matters then I would give this arc more credit. 



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Posted 01 March 2016 - 12:12 PM

I have to agree.

I know the ending being anticlimactic and all, but in the overall end, it isn't the only part that's lackluster. I mean seriously, Sai was dealt with, which is fine for the future events, but then we don't get anything more from him. Just a tongue seal that got dealt with on its own. Never see the progress of Anbu Root, him trying to figure out Sasuke in War Arc never went anywhere, and him associating with Team 7 never clear as to say, "Yes, he's one of them."

Yamato never went anywhere either. He was just a tool for many things, from being a sealer on Kyuubi to being a booster for army of Zetsu. No character, not having him being part of Team 7, he might as well get killed off if he's doing nothing. As for Team 7 itself, it's pretty much a repeat, no idea of someone is changing (Sakura), and so on. So bad.

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Posted 01 March 2016 - 12:23 PM

Statement: Hinata is the most overrated character in the series.

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