441 replies to this topic

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

i'm laughing off how Sasuke looks here, he looks like an Super Emo.

[narusakurama]

Another thing that Kishi could  bring up is the seal that Minato used . It was said that it is very complex and we saw that Minato prepared for different scenarios , like the seal breaking and Naruto's attempt to get Kurama's chakra . Since he knew that the masked man will attempt to recapture Kurama , it would make sense for him to have also  prepared for the case  in which the kyuubi is removed  and have put in something  that could help Naruto in that case .

[sushi.]

Just a prediction, but this seems pretty legit:

The source is freakysandra1995.

[LuckyChi7]

Wow I was moved by that prediction, now we'll just have to see what happens. 

[Atheck]

Prediction:

 

It was good for the most part. My only issue is Gaara's overbearing presence. He's an interesting character, one who has stood the test of time and improved in strides since the original series, but there are so many neglected characters who could use this screen time as well. Despite his relevance to the jinchuuriki aspect of the plot, it is playing favourites if you give him so much time relative to the other Kages or other characters in general. 
 

[Inferno180]

I like freakysandra's prediction, its both realistic without overemphasizing stuff, mainly internal but also due to the fact the series still puts action and drama above the romance factor.

 

I mean as I have seen some predictions, I really dont understand why people keep inserting hinata into it, seriously, I can see her getting a reaction and crying at most but not the direct center of it. I mean this all depends if things go like that but Sakura trying to save naruto is much more realistic to imagine. There are just some predictions out there where its hinata holding naruto, really, that doesnt do it, that just doesnt fit right with me. Yes its only a prediction most likely not to happen, but seriously, I wish people would cut back on trying to insert hinata in each and every space possible. I mean we are trying to insert Sakura into this situation, but past events from the manga and the current situation make this very appropriate for her and therefore much more acceptable. This isnt even some baised statement, its simply Sakura learned of this from chiyo long ago then we get the very stuff about extraction happening and her fearing narutos death despite the uzumaki stamina she has no knowledge of.

 

Its all about whats realistic and more reasonable, if anything its safe to say Gaara, Sakura, and Minato would have a possible big role next chapter.

[sushi.]

I like freakysandra's prediction, its both realistic without overemphasizing stuff, mainly internal but also due to the fact the series still puts action and drama above the romance factor.

 

I mean as I have seen some predictions, I really dont understand why people keep inserting hinata into it, seriously, I can see her getting a reaction and crying at most but not the direct center of it. I mean this all depends if things go like that but Sakura trying to save naruto is much more realistic to imagine. There are just some predictions out there where its hinata holding naruto, really, that doesnt do it, that just doesnt fit right with me. Yes its only a prediction most likely not to happen, but seriously, I wish people would cut back on trying to insert hinata in each and every space possible. I mean we are trying to insert Sakura into this situation, but past events from the manga and the current situation make this very appropriate for her and therefore much more acceptable. This isnt even some baised statement, its simply Sakura learned of this from chiyo long ago then we get the very stuff about extraction happening and her fearing narutos death despite the uzumaki stamina she has no knowledge of.

 

Its all about whats realistic and more reasonable, if anything its safe to say Gaara, Sakura, and Minato would have a possible big role next chapter.

Forget Hinata. I'm forgetting her existence, but people here mentions her a lot. "Hope Hinata doesn't do something cool", "why should Hinata be a part of this", "Hinata doesn't fit in" "But she might. Lets pray she doesn't".

 

Why try to make sense of those predictions? Like you said, there's no logic, just trying to make insert a role for her in every situation.

Edited by sushi., 02 January 2014 - 05:44 PM.

[BakeNeko-Chan]

Forget Hinata. I'm forgetting her existence, but people here mentions her a lot. "Hope Hinata doesn't do something cool", "why should Hinata be a part of this", "Hinata doesn't fit in" "But she might. Lets pray she doesn't".

 

Why try to make sense of those predictions? Like you said, there's no logic, just trying to make insert a role for her in every situation.

 

As far as Hinata goes, I really don't mind her much but when people keeping freaking out about any possible appearance that she might make, it gets a bit old. I can't blame her fans for wanting her to appear and have greater relevance, because don't those here (including myself) who love Sakura want the same thing for her? Honestly, they should just be left to their speculation, no matter how 'ridiculous' it might seem to some of us. I see no reason to worry or speculate what may or may not happen if Hinata gets some screen time, whether in this current scenario with Naruto's 'death', or in the future.

Edited by BakeNeko-Chan, 02 January 2014 - 05:57 PM.

[sushi.]

 

As far as Hinata goes, I really don't mind her much but when people keeping freaking out about any possible appearance that she might make, it gets a bit old. I can't blame her fans for wanting her to appear and have greater relevance, because don't those here (including myself) who love Sakura want the same thing for her? Honestly, they should just be left to their speculation, no matter how 'ridiculous' it might seem to some of us. I see no reason to worry or speculate what may or may not happen if Hinata gets some screen time, whether in this current scenario with Naruto's 'death', or in the future.

Yeah, really. Even if she does get a moment, would that be a crisis? Is she a big threat? Nah. She's just a 'meh' character to me. I don't care what she does next chapter, as long as Minato, Sakura and possibly Gaara are most focused on.

[Nostradamus]

@Inferno180 You really want to know why people keep inserting Hinata in almost any chapter/scenario? Here are a couple of quotes from the NH (actually only H and no N) "After all in that image were a picture of team seven in narutos mine shatters to me it represents that naruto is done stuck on team seven and realizes theres more to life then a team that has lie, betray and hurt you so many times." and "While also remaining good friends with everyone else just that he will be more dedicated to his own life(family) for now I dont think sasuke or sakura have the same effect on naruto as they used to do am certain his figure out that theres other people in his life that actually do care for him like a family and more(hinata) that he already choose that she is more important to him then the rest. Cuz recently naruto has not shown the same emotions he use to show for sakura or sasuke his being quite neuttal on them not to mention that he has not brought any feelings for himself towards sakura or sasuke to prove that he feels the same as he use to about them. As ive seeing things go down I believe hinata is narutos most important person now. And like I sed in the future his main focus will be with her as his most important person(wife/family) hopefully." This is really the problem a lot of people completely misunderstood everything about "Naruto", they believe Hinata is the most important person to Naruto, they believe Sasuke is greatest guy in the world and on and on.

And you really can't change them. It's truly pointless.

[BakeNeko-Chan]

@Inferno180 You really want to know why people keep inserting Hinata in almost any chapter/scenario? Here are a couple of quotes from the NH (actually only H and no N) "After all in that image were a picture of team seven in narutos mine shatters to me it represents that naruto is done stuck on team seven and realizes theres more to life then a team that has lie, betray and hurt you so many times." and "While also remaining good friends with everyone else just that he will be more dedicated to his own life(family) for now I dont think sasuke or sakura have the same effect on naruto as they used to do am certain his figure out that theres other people in his life that actually do care for him like a family and more(hinata) that he already choose that she is more important to him then the rest. Cuz recently naruto has not shown the same emotions he use to show for sakura or sasuke his being quite neuttal on them not to mention that he has not brought any feelings for himself towards sakura or sasuke to prove that he feels the same as he use to about them. As ive seeing things go down I believe hinata is narutos most important person now. And like I sed in the future his main focus will be with her as his most important person(wife/family) hopefully." This is really the problem a lot of people completely misunderstood everything about "Naruto", they believe Hinata is the most important person to Naruto, they believe Sasuke is greatest guy in the world and on and on.

And you really can't change them. It's truly pointless.

 

That is completely inconsistent with the Naruto we've seen throughout this entire manga. He doesn't let go of bonds no matter how much it hurts him, even if he probably would be better off letting go in certain cases. Sasuke for one has done more than enough that Naruto cutting off his ties to him would be completely understandable, but he hasn't, and he won't. That's just how Naruto is, he holds on to his bonds with other people with an iron fist because he went so long without, he is not going to let go of Sasuke or Sakura and their place in his life, or his feelings towards each of them.

I'm not even going to bother with the rest of that, because it's really just personal interpretation and speculation with no real evidence to stand on.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

 

As far as Hinata goes, I really don't mind her much but when people keeping freaking out about any possible appearance that she might make, it gets a bit old. I can't blame her fans for wanting her to appear and have greater relevance, because don't those here (including myself) who love Sakura want the same thing for her? Honestly, they should just be left to their speculation, no matter how 'ridiculous' it might seem to some of us. I see no reason to worry or speculate what may or may not happen if Hinata gets some screen time, whether in this current scenario with Naruto's 'death', or in the future.

Since when her insertions have logic, the reason why i dislike her character is just because her insertions arent natural, it's always forced, much like how Sakura conveniently was placed behind Naruto just for Minato to show up and confirm a parallel that was unquestioned, yes the moment was good for NS but was forced, it's stuff like that, example kill Neji for Hinata to appear, make Naruto weak for Hinata to protect him, break his arm and show him fighting normally and then make her "heal" his shoulder, make Naruto and Sasuke fighting at a distance and even with Sakura with the slug summoning didnt give one to Naruto and make her tell Sakura about what's going on but no we need a role for Hinata.

 

(none of that moments give a real development to Naruto even 615 is questionable since he only said the same words he said on some chapter befores when Obito said what he would do if he fail?

I still cant swallow how Neji's death made him forget about the sacrifices of the people who believed on him , even the sacrifices of his parents Minato and Kushina.)

 

Why dont make it natural why the need to weak Naruto or downgrade his character for her to shine?

It's the same thing here, Naruto lose the kyuubi, he's weak so what now will the story follow the normal course and put a healer to help Naruto and it's just another forced scenario for Hinata?

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 02 January 2014 - 07:07 PM.

[KnS]

That is completely inconsistent with the Naruto we've seen throughout this entire manga. He doesn't let go of bonds no matter how much it hurts him, even if he probably would be better off letting go in certain cases. Sasuke for one has done more than enough that Naruto cutting off his ties to him would be completely understandable, but he hasn't, and he won't. That's just how Naruto is, he holds on to his bonds with other people with an iron fist because he went so long without, he is not going to let go of Sasuke or Sakura and their place in his life, or his feelings towards each of them.

I'm not even going to bother with the rest of that, because it's really just personal interpretation and speculation with no real evidence to stand on.

 

Naturally I agree with you.  

 

The only thing I would add is that when the image of the old Team 7 shattered in Naruto's mind, it seemed to me that he was finally accepting -- in a way he never had been willing to before -- how different Sasuke and Sakura were now compared to the way Naruto believed.  He had to accept that his vision, the status quo he relied upon, no longer existed.  

 

That reaction is not the same as giving up, and that fact is evidenced by Naruto's easy willingness to fight alongside both of them during the Team 7 "reunion."  He showed no hesitation at all.

 

Naruto may be a bit wiser now, and the shattered image may have been the moment where he realized his assumptions were wrong and they weren't kids anymore, but if anything it will only make him more determined to find a different angle to recover the team dream, as it were.

 

It certainly doesn't have anything to do with turning to Hinata to replace all of the bonds he has spent the entire story cherishing.  

[FreakySandra1995]

I'm not worried with the whole Hinata will appear issue. Sure, if there is emphasy on Naruto perhaps dying, she will appear, there is no arguing about that. Because a big part of her character is about Naruto. But that doesn't have to mean that this is something bad. If she is shown, there will be nothing new to see. We know she loves Naruto, we know that she would be heartbroken, but still Kishi made her a character with that much importance as everyone else from the Rookies. I don't think that she will get a big or at least not the biggest part. She doesn't exactly know what can happen if Naruto lost Kurama, the only ones shown to knows this are Sakura, Kakashi and probably Minato too. That's why I strongly believe that yes, Hinata will react if it comes to Naruto falling down, but it is Sakura who knows exactly what's happening and therefore has to be the one to react the most of K11. If she does not, Kishi is doing something wrong with this manga. She is the only one who is constantly shown worried about Naruto's well being because of the Kyuubi issue. Those panels would mean nothing if Sakura is the one who is not reacting properly or with the same importance of the others. I trust Kishi enough to believe that he will not make these moments go to waste just so that Hinata can have another moment to shine again, She had her time in my opinion.

 

Prediction:

 

It was good for the most part. My only issue is Gaara's overbearing presence. He's an interesting character, one who has stood the test of time and improved in strides since the original series, but there are so many neglected characters who could use this screen time as well. Despite his relevance to the jinchuuriki aspect of the plot, it is playing favourites if you give him so much time relative to the other Kages or other characters in general. 
 

 

Maybe I was playing a bit favourites in my prediction, I'm not denying that :) But the thing is, that Gaara is the one who was told something by Kurama that most likely will be the key either to save Naruto or to beat/weaken Madara. So he is an important character in this situation. But of course, this is just a prediction. I'm not claiming to be right about that and it wouldn't be a suprise if things turn out to be very different.

[Hanabi]

@Nostradamus haha yeah i seen that and facepalmed. the whole point of naruto was about bonds how could team 7 falling apart be a satisfactory ending.

[Atheck]

Maybe I was playing a bit favourites in my prediction, I'm not denying that :) But the thing is, that Gaara is the one who was told something by Kurama that most likely will be the key either to save Naruto or to beat/weaken Madara. So he is an important character in this situation. But of course, this is just a prediction. I'm not claiming to be right about that and it wouldn't be a suprise if things turn out to be very different.

 

I was referring to the fight against Madara. The reaction to Naruto's moment of death is appropriate for those who have an understanding of the jinchuuriki system and hold emotional bonds with Naruto because of the implications of being the container of a bijuu. Sakura and Gaara would grieve because they understand the end results of Naruto being deprived of Kurama; the former would also hold separate justifications relating to Chiyo's words of her protecting those closest to her. Minato's significance is understandable as well because of his love for Naruto as a father and because of the responsibilities he gave to Naruto when he first partnered his son with Kurama (albeit his original intention of having Naruto use Kurama's power to battle the harbinger of a great disaster, "the masked man", has already come and gone). Kakashi is a given as well because of his role as Naruto's sensei and his witnessing Gaara's revival as well. 

 

I would hope that some of the other characters would join the fray in an effort to avenge Naruto, particularly Sasuke and the Kages. And regarding the latter, it's not just because of the personal toll that losing Naruto would have on them or because Madara is currently the biggest threat. It's the principal of the matter for having promised Naruto far back that they would defeat Madara that gives them a significant reason to participate. I want Kishi to remember those words and have them keep that promise.

[Inferno180]

@Inferno180 You really want to know why people keep inserting Hinata in almost any chapter/scenario? Here are a couple of quotes from the NH (actually only H and no N) "After all in that image were a picture of team seven in narutos mine shatters to me it represents that naruto is done stuck on team seven and realizes theres more to life then a team that has lie, betray and hurt you so many times." and "While also remaining good friends with everyone else just that he will be more dedicated to his own life(family) for now I dont think sasuke or sakura have the same effect on naruto as they used to do am certain his figure out that theres other people in his life that actually do care for him like a family and more(hinata) that he already choose that she is more important to him then the rest. Cuz recently naruto has not shown the same emotions he use to show for sakura or sasuke his being quite neuttal on them not to mention that he has not brought any feelings for himself towards sakura or sasuke to prove that he feels the same as he use to about them. As ive seeing things go down I believe hinata is narutos most important person now. And like I sed in the future his main focus will be with her as his most important person(wife/family) hopefully." This is really the problem a lot of people completely misunderstood everything about "Naruto", they believe Hinata is the most important person to Naruto, they believe Sasuke is greatest guy in the world and on and on.
And you really can't change them. It's truly pointless.

Geez, this makes some crazy reactions to 631 more reasonable sounding, I mean saying naruto was breaking away from team 7 due to Sasuke and then what sakura did in the land of iron? Seriously? Thats basically arguing against the main point of the series, naruto trying to save Sasuke from revenge, to preserve that bond, etc. I mean there is some crazy stuff out there, but if some people really believe this or interpret the manga like this, they are severely going in the wrong direction, the whole point with the claim of hinata being the most important person to naruto isn't even the worst part, it's trying to say the constantly established goal of the main character towards his "best friend" isn't what we think and that naruto rather than trying to save Sasuke from revenge is just going to forget him and kill him while also ignoring sakura and then somehow just put hinata into priority by her reckless action against pain.

Oh god, just god, naruhina and sasusaku are becoming the zutara of naruto. Both are fan preferred, many keep insisting it will happen, many think Sasuke will love sakura or that sakura will always love Sasuke (incapable of change) while others say naruto gave up on sakura or think that nh (if it was once a concepted pairing) think this means it will automatically make it come into canon. Just wow, I mean I didn't do any shipping in avatar, aangtara was kinda obvious, the story gave little to no room for zutara especially since zuko choose to side with Azula in the end of season 2 and the last ten episodes, he had to spend a few episodes before being friends with katara. Just god, I mean SS is near death due to 635, sakura not trusting Sasuke is basically removing the only existing half of the ship. Naruhina exists but it's been so small, naruto only thinks if hinata as a friend and nothing more. Even then just looking how the manga developed, I would say it's better for narusaku to occur because if the fact sakura hated naruto at first but grew to like him, not just have nh happen because hinata conveniently loved him. Yes naruto loves sakura but he had his effort plus he's the main character, his goals are priority, his love figuratively is more important than Sakura's for sasukes and hinatas for him.

But just seeing that statement, just dear lord, when people go making statements like that, arguing the main plot is not what we think, that's just enough it makes me just not even want to see anything naruto related other than the upcoming sub and dubbed episodes until the chapters resume.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Now I think about it, when was the last time she was relevant? She didn't say anything anymore. I say 615 though you could argue 632 but that's only because everyone in K6 wanted to prove that they want to move forward as well. Plus it will be good for video games. So yeah, what is it there to offer? Like every other arcs, there's so little you can do for her.

[T XD]

Why some are scared if she gets panel time or be relevant ? I understand cause she had a lot of panel time, and some were very annoyed thinking she influenced badly on NS at some points while, really, she's not. That's her character and it doesn't affect Naruto's love for Sakura.

 

Being relevant like 615 won't happen anymore. It was her time to shine like others did have and Gaara now is having. She's one of the side characters that gets more panel time than other side characters. It doesn't mean that she'll save the day. That's not a big deal nor a threat. It's okay. It's just that she's on the list of the important side characters and a character who's panel/s are there when usually something related to Naruto happen, as in something or situations that all the side characters will know about, cause most of her character is Naruto oriented.

 

I think it's mostly the effect of the 615 incident.

 

Actually, most probably she'll get some panels next chapter cause Naruto is down, so she'll probably get some panels like seeing her concern and/or showing her with the rest of his friends and/or telling that Naruto is down by her Byakugan and/or anything like that. By that, it's not something out of the ordinary. It's something that is expected from her... It's the usual.

Edited by T XD, 02 January 2014 - 09:01 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Why some are scared if she gets panel time or be relevant ? I understand cause she had a lot of panel time, and some were very annoyed thinking she influenced badly on NS at some points while, really, she's not. That's her character and it doesn't affect Naruto's love for Sakura.
 
Being relevant like 615 won't happen anymore. It was her time to shine like others did have and Gaara now is having. She's one of the side characters that gets more panel time than other side characters. It doesn't mean that she'll save the day. That's not a big deal nor a threat. It's okay. It's just that she's on the list of the important side characters and a character who's panel/s are there when usually something related to Naruto happen, as in something or situations that all the side characters will know about, cause most of her character is Naruto oriented.
 
I think it's mostly the effect of the 615 incident.
 
Actually, most probably she'll get some panels next chapter cause Naruto is down, so she'll probably get some panels like seeing her concern and/or showing her with the rest of his friends and/or telling that Naruto is down by her Byakugan and/or anything like that. By that, it's not something out of the ordinary. It's something that is expected from her... It's the usual.

Yeah, again, it's been so long that her character has any spotlight, along with the rest of K9. In fact, I still don't know the real theme of this volume, as well as the fight itself. Bijuus are taken out in 3 chapters and the idea of the theme is shown usually in the 5th chapter or so. We'll learn soon enough of it and right now, we got to stop putting someone on a pedastal without knowing it. The friends theme ended in the last fight, yet this one I don't know yet.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 02 January 2014 - 09:37 PM.