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[T XD]

Of course. Sasuke didn't change 100%. He now has another goal which is protecting the village, but he's not good. Everything he thought of is still the same as in ideals. It's just now he wants to protect the village for the sake of his brother. No one knows what Sasuke is up to which we'll know soon.

Edited by T XD, 27 June 2013 - 10:06 PM.

[sushi.]

I think it's very simple.

 

Sasuke's desires, ideology, goals and his view of this world has changed.

 

His unstable mentality, anger and manipulated and corrupt mindset still remains the same. That is what Naruto is supposed to change.

[megi]

I thought it was possible before. Tsunade definitely said that it was a technique (byakugou) that only she knew, but this is before Sakura finished her seal. Now that it is in place I'm sure Sakura has the potential of knowing/learning that jutsu.

Both Naruto and Sakura is a thorn in Sasukes plan! I'm kind of glad so much build up to the ending battle. But I wonder how team seven will react to Obito next chapter?

[Baiken]

He didn't change...he just wants to protect the village, but that doesn't mean he doesn't want to kill Naruto anymore.

 

And another thing from the previous chapters..sorry to mention it in the topic of 636...
Tsunade said Byakugo is a technique only known by her. Now when Katsuyu told her about the battlefield, Tsunade seemed surprised because she asked her how she got to the battlefield...

And this makes me wonder...what if Sakura learned Byakugo by herself and other things? Tsunade seems to not know that Sakura was able to summon... she knows that Sakura was on her way working on the seal...but to the other things...she seems quite oblivious, so to speak.

 

Oh god, if it turns out Sakura does have Strength of a Hundred and she activates it in some dire situation, that would be such a tragedy. I kind of want to see that happen, but I kind of don't because I'd rather her not be a Tsunade 2.0, And she's neither Uzumaki nor Senju. Even worse, she doesn't have the best of both worlds. If she uses that jutsu, she's probably going to die. Damn. Would be...interesting.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I think it's very simple.
 
Sasuke's desires, ideology, goals and his view of this world has changed.
 
His unstable mentality, anger and manipulated and corrupt mindset still remains the same. That is what Naruto is supposed to change.

You can say his first part that you mentioned are changeable. The second can't without Naruto. Plus the first one still need to change. It was good to change for protecting by the tactic is wrong.

[Chatte]

It all ties up to a fight with Naruto thou. First it was this. He wanted to kill Naruto. Then Hokage, and third kill all bijuu. I wonder if Sasuke will express anymore reasons to fight Naruto.

 

It always felt that Tsunade really meant she knew how to use it. Why make a fourth rule that asks for that particular technique and then keep it a secret. Anyway when she arrives on the battlefield we will see what she has to say of her student.

 

Thou why did Katsuyu call her Sakura-chan.

I wonder why that too. Tho it's cute, she reminds me of Naruto with the Sakura-chan.

As for Tsunade...yes and no. She says about the 4th rule yet afterwards she says she is the only one who knows how to use it... Strange situation.

As for the outcome if she'd use Byakugo... I am sure there will be something that makes an exception. She won't be just a Tsunade copy-cat...I mean, even their seals's name are different...

Edited by Chatte, 27 June 2013 - 10:26 PM.

[soraandven]

OMG I just noticed... While re-reading the old chapters... Actually, Sasuke is planning on killing Naruto...

http://www.mangahere...60/c574/14.html

ah that epic evil sasuke panel 

[James S Cassidy]

We actually have three characters that are missing.

Anko, who Kabuto had

Kabuto, who is still stuck in that Izanami (I think it is called.)

And Yamato...who has been stuck in that giant tree thing.

I always assumed Black Zetsu was killed off somehow, but I guess I might be wrong.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

We actually have three characters that are missing.

Anko, who Kabuto had

Kabuto, who is still stuck in that Izanami (I think it is called.)

And Yamato...who has been stuck in that giant tree thing.

I always assumed Black Zetsu was killed off somehow, but I guess I might be wrong.

I think they will meet orochimaru somehow, i feel that they are not going towards the battlefield since if they were, Orochimaru would be going with the kages.

[Atheck]

The seals may potentially have some correlation between the colouring the seal and of the person's chakra. It's a stretch but they could have all learned separate abilities. If this is true then it may lead to the following...

 

Mito Uzumaki - Red Seal (?) - A technique or ability that pertains either to her jinchuuriki status or Uzumaki vitality.

Tsunade Senju - Purple/Pink Seal (Yin Seal) - The Byakugou jutsu which grants auto-regenerative abilities whenever the user is damaged.

Sakura Haruno - Green Seal (White Strength Seal) - Unknown ability but it may relate to a combat offensive fighting style. A Slug Sage Mode, perhaps?

 

There really isn't any basis for this but it does make the respective characters' seals more distinctive.

[megi]

Are you sure that Mito's seal is red? 

 

The property that both Tsunade's and Sakura's (and Mito's I'm sure) is that they are containers of a vast pool of chakra. For this reason, I can see why people are merging the two seals as just one seal (yin). Besides possible coloring differences, what is the exact difference of the yin and Byakugou (white strength)?  If Tsunade's yin seal makes it possible for her to use Byakugou-no-jutsu, Sakura's Byakugou seal should also give Sakura that ability. That is, if she had learned the Tsunade's jutsu. 

[Atheck]

Are you sure that Mito's seal is red?

 
There is a reason for including a question mark in parenthesis . Mito's seal being red was only an assumption on my part because of a presumed correlation between Mito's red hair and Kurama's red chakra. It could be any colour.
 

The property that both Tsunade's and Sakura's (and Mito's I'm sure) is that they are containers of a vast pool of chakra.

 
That has no relation to the logic used to differentiate between the seals. Sakura, Tsunade, and Mito's circumstances were all different from each other. Mito was a jinchuuriki, Tsunade was a medical practitioner seeking to develop new restorative techniques, and Sakura wants to be able to fight alongside her teammates.
 

For this reason, I can see why people are merging the two seals as just one seal (yin). Besides possible coloring differences, what is the exact difference of the yin and Byakugou (white strength)?

 
Why don't you ask Kishi that via mail because at the moment none of us are certain on what exact differences, if any, there may be between the seals.
 
 

If Tsunade's yin seal makes it possible for her to use Byakugou-no-jutsu, Sakura's Byakugou seal should also give Sakura that ability. That is, if she had learned the Tsunade's jutsu.

 
If this is true then the conflicting names of the seals were misleading and completely useless. Unless Kishi selected to rename Tsunade's seal during P2 that is.

[Akashi]

It all ties up to a fight with Naruto thou. First it was this. He wanted to kill Naruto. Then Hokage, and third kill all bijuu. I wonder if Sasuke will express anymore reasons to fight Naruto.

 

It always felt that Tsunade really meant she knew how to use it. Why make a fourth rule that asks for that particular technique and then keep it a secret. Anyway when she arrives on the battlefield we will see what she has to say of her student.

 

Thou why did Katsuyu call her Sakura-chan.

I loled at the way Aoda kalled Sauce Sasuke-sama... 

Katsuyu is the second after Naruto to add a honorific -chan to Sakura's name..   

[Canadian_DJ]

Uzumaki Mito has an identical seal with that of Sakura and Tsunade. Does this means that it has the same workings? 

 

Because why would a Jinchuuriki Mito feel the need to save up her chakra? 

 

Can that seal have different workings other than storing chakra? 

well, it hasn't been revealed to us in the manga about mito's seal, but we know for sure that sakura and mito have one thing in common when it comes to their seals; they dont need it to keep themselves younger, but tsunade does.

 

 

 

OMG I just noticed... While re-reading the old chapters... Actually, Sasuke is planning on killing Naruto...

http://www.mangahere...60/c574/14.html

Remember that this came before he made his decision. So sasuke doesn't intend to kill naruto for no good reason.

[Canadian_DJ]

I loled at the way Aoda kalled Sauce Sasuke-sama... 

Katsuyu is the second after Naruto to add a honorific -chan to Sakura's name..   

Your also forgetting one of kakashi's summons, he calls sakura, "sakura-chan".

[Otaru]

OMG I just noticed... While re-reading the old chapters... Actually, Sasuke is planning on killing Naruto...

http://www.mangahere...60/c574/14.html

 

I think maybe he doesn't want to kill Naruto anymore.

I think he just wants to change everything, like Naruto wants to change everything.

The "only" difference is the way Sasuke want it done. It's totally opposing the way Naruto want it done.

 

 

Even if you can say that he has changed, well remember, he knows Naruto has Kyuubi so he must be dead to be cleansed from the world.

 

Crap you're right.........

 

So he still might try to kill Naruto.................

Edited by Otaru, 28 June 2013 - 07:40 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Actually, if Bijuu is part of the reason to make the world "better" for Sasuke, then yes, he will kill Naruto because even if he does go to the route of good guy, remember, extracting Naruto will kill him. So yeah, pretty much Naruto is screwed since Kyuubi is in him.

[Dkey]

 

I think maybe he doesn't want to kill Naruto anymore.

I think he just wants to change everything, like Naruto wants to change everything.

The "only" difference is the way Sasuke want it done. It's totally opposing the way Naruto want it done.

 

The idea is that Sasuke believes that only by separating bonds does he become stronger. And even thou his motivation isn't power anymore he still feels like he needs power in order to change the world.

Thou it might have warped a bit. This time he wants to protect his brother's wish of defending Konoha and he could perceive Naruto as a threat. There's this fact that Naruto will say no to killing the tailed beasts.

Edited by Dkey, 28 June 2013 - 07:44 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

You know, if the manga were to go longer, I could see Sasuke turning bad again by himself because of his way of cleaning the world. You know, too much power will create you to the man who you trying to get rid of, or something like that. It happens to many media. Heck, MGS5 is doing it, I mean killing kids, good god...Anyway, the point is Sasuke's tactic is pretty much a road to villain. Not to say he will be one, but he could have if the manga lasts longer. Oh well, at least this way he can be somewhat stopped.

[Otaru]

He didn't change...he just wants to protect the village, but that doesn't mean he doesn't want to kill Naruto anymore.

 

And another thing from the previous chapters..sorry to mention it in the topic of 636...
Tsunade said Byakugo is a technique only known by her. Now when Katsuyu told her about the battlefield, Tsunade seemed surprised because she asked her how she got to the battlefield...

And this makes me wonder...what if Sakura learned Byakugo by herself and other things? Tsunade seems to not know that Sakura was able to summon... she knows that Sakura was on her way working on the seal...but to the other things...she seems quite oblivious, so to speak.

 

I think the same about Sakura.

I totally see her training on her own will without Tsunade knowing about it.

But Sakura said "Tsunade trains her disciple as ferociously as other sannins".

So maybe Tsunade trained her...

But it seemed to me that Sakura has trained herself to kuchyose and i really would like Kishi to show us some flashback with this.

 

 

 

Oh god, if it turns out Sakura does have Strength of a Hundred and she activates it in some dire situation, that would be such a tragedy. I kind of want to see that happen, but I kind of don't because I'd rather her not be a Tsunade 2.0, And she's neither Uzumaki nor Senju. Even worse, she doesn't have the best of both worlds. If she uses that jutsu, she's probably going to die. Damn. Would be...interesting.

 

If she uses it, i think she will not die. She will just shortened her life.

 

 

 

I mean, even their seals's name are different...

 

@Chatte i've checked with a japanese friend, it seems to her it's the same seal and the same name. I'm still a little confused about this, but i would be logical to Sakura to have the same seal. Katsuyu recognise it indeed.

Edited by Otaru, 28 June 2013 - 08:05 AM.