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#261 Tiller

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Posted 09 January 2015 - 09:27 AM

With this story I'm reminded of the famous quote from Bioshock. A man chooses, a slave obeys. Seems that the people who are thinking this is a social experiment at its root have some more evidence in their direction.

 

The Royal Family: Would you kindly forget the true history of the world?

The People: The what?

The Royal Family: Would you kindly go into the "safety" of the walls?

The People: Oh thank you saviors of our lives!

The Royal Family: Would you kindly begin to fear the Titans more than anything else?

The People: SAVE US YOUR MAJESTY YOUR PEOPLE NEED YOU!!!

 

Would you kindly... powerful phrase. Familiar phrase?

 

A MAN CHOOSES!!!

A SLAVE OBEYS!!!

 

OBEEEEY!!!!!!



 


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Posted 09 January 2015 - 09:41 AM

With this story I'm reminded of the famous quote from Bioshock. A man chooses, a slave obeys. Seems that the people who are thinking this is a social experiment at its root have some more evidence in their direction.

 

The Royal Family: Would you kindly forget the true history of the world?

The People: The what?

The Royal Family: Would you kindly go into the "safety" of the walls?

The People: Oh thank you saviors of our lives!

The Royal Family: Would you kindly begin to fear the Titans more than anything else?

The People: SAVE US YOUR MAJESTY YOUR PEOPLE NEED YOU!!!

 

Would you kindly... powerful phrase. Familiar phrase?

 

A MAN CHOOSES!!!

A SLAVE OBEYS!!!

 

OBEEEEY!!!!!!

This is what I've been thinking for a while! I don't know if you have heard of this teenage trilogy, but Divergent is using kind of a similar concept.

What do you think of this chapter btw?


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- Sakata Gintoki, Gintama

 


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Posted 09 January 2015 - 01:16 PM

Hating how recently Historia has donned this air of superiority about her...it's really kinda annoying. 


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Posted 09 January 2015 - 04:36 PM

Hating how recently Historia has donned this air of superiority about her...it's really kinda annoying. 

I don't understand her anymore tbh. I initially felt indifference towards her and even pity, but now after some time to reflect on Ch.65, it's just confusion tbh.


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- Sakata Gintoki, Gintama

 


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Posted 09 January 2015 - 04:43 PM

 

Let's just say one of my new years resolution was to bring some kinda change to my youtube channel. So I that Live Reactions to Manga Chapters is one way to take it with a combination of the review so it all fits. It was pretty difficult to do it not because it was AoT,but my folks kept me side tract while I was recording so this was like maybe my third try (luckily I was only on page 1 when I tried recording it the first couple times). In The end I think it turned out pretty well. 

 

Chapter 65

So you are now reviewing, FT, Bleach, TG (both manga and anime), and Boku no Hero, right? That's your four series I guess.

AoT

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Posted 09 January 2015 - 05:22 PM

This is what I've been thinking for a while! I don't know if you have heard of this teenage trilogy, but Divergent is using kind of a similar concept.

What do you think of this chapter btw?

 

I think it's a chapter that is building us up more towards the general idea of what is happening. Just another piece of that puzzle. Right now it boils down to what theory you believe in. Some people still think the monarchy is controlling everything to get what he wants, including altering the people around him's emotions, so we still don't have a clear picture of what's going on. That may explain why people think some character are acting OOC right now.

 

I'm enjoying the ride though.

 

 

Hating how recently Historia has donned this air of superiority about her...it's really kinda annoying. 

Some people believe her emotions are being controlled by the King. That's why she is acting so differently, and why Eren has just given up. We will have to wait and see if these changes are real or simply a side affect of the Kings power. I'm more interested to find out his excuse to "why" he can't die and is so special.

 

I'm also interested in what Kenny's Grandfather hinted at:

 

"The King's dream was to rewrite the memories of mankind as a whole. To eradicate the past..... And create a flawless theory of peace."

 

For the people who believe the state is the root of all evil in this world, that quote is very interesting.

 

It also makes the opening narration interesting to me if the state is indeed evil, and a big part of what's going on.

 

"And just like that, everything changed. At that terrible moment, in our hearts, we knew. Home was a pen. Humanity, cattle."



 


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Posted 09 January 2015 - 05:34 PM

 

I think it's a chapter that is building us up more towards the general idea of what is happening. Just another piece of that puzzle. Right now it boils down to what theory you believe in. Some people still think the monarchy is controlling everything to get what he wants, including altering the people around him's emotions, so we still don't have a clear picture of what's going on. That may explain why people think some character are acting OOC right now.

 

I'm enjoying the ride though.

 

 

Some people believe her emotions are being controlled by the King. That's why she is acting so differently, and why Eren has just given up. We will have to wait and see if these changes are real or simply a side affect of the Kings power. I'm more interested to find out his excuse to "why" he can't die and is so special.

 

I'm also interested in what Kenny's Grandfather hinted at:

 

"The King's dream was to rewrite the memories of mankind as a whole. To eradicate the past..... And create a flawless theory of peace."

 

For the people who believe the state is the root of all evil in this world, that quote is very interesting.

 

It also makes the opening narration interesting to me if the state is indeed evil, and a big part of what's going on.

 

"And just like that, everything changed. At that terrible moment, in our hearts, we knew. Home was a pen. Humanity, cattle."

Which forum do you usually visit to pick up those interesting theories? I've forgotten a lot tbh about AoT, and think that reading theories instead of rereading the entire manga right now is a lot easier for me to freshen up my memories.

If only I could pay more attention to those phrases you've pointed out! But then again, I don't have very good reading and analysis skills.

I liked the chapter. And as you've hinted, Eren's and Historia's -especially her- ooc behavior is rather puzzling to me.

I'm expecting to see some unexpected turns of events happen in the next chapter.


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Posted 09 January 2015 - 05:35 PM

I don't understand her anymore tbh. I initially felt indifference towards her and even pity, but now after some time to reflect on Ch.65, it's just confusion tbh.

Oh right? Her character gets me stressed out because I am trying figure her out but it's difficult but I like her at the sane time

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Posted 09 January 2015 - 05:39 PM

Oh right? Her character gets me stressed out because I am trying figure her out but it's difficult but I like her at the sane time

Her decisions constantly ping pong back and forth! I liked her best with Ymir XD My favorite moment of Historia was when she finally revealed her true name thx to Ymir's help.


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Posted 09 January 2015 - 06:09 PM

Her decisions constantly ping pong back and forth! I liked her best with Ymir XD My favorite moment of Historia was when she finally revealed her true name thx to Ymir's help.

Ymir helped her alot, but now that she's gone...it's like what happened to you? :O My moments are usually with Mikasa and Levi..

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Posted 09 January 2015 - 06:10 PM

Ymir helped her alot, but now that she's gone...it's like what happened to you? :O My moments are usually with Mikasa and Levi..

It's been a while but what exactly did Historia do with Mikasa or Levi that stood out as significant for you?


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Posted 09 January 2015 - 06:32 PM

...

 

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Posted 09 January 2015 - 06:50 PM

It's been a while but what exactly did Historia do with Mikasa or Levi that stood out as significant for you?

Oh no, I meant Mikasa and Levi moments themselves, they barely seem to interact with Historia besides that drama that happened between them lol

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Posted 09 January 2015 - 06:55 PM

...
 

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Chapter 65

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Posted 09 January 2015 - 07:48 PM

I don't understand her anymore tbh. I initially felt indifference towards her and even pity, but now after some time to reflect on Ch.65, it's just confusion tbh.

  
I kinda liked her at first, I really didn't mind her. But after she found out that she was royalty she's kinda been thumbing her nose at everyone subtly, and it's rubbing me the wrong way lol

I think it's a chapter that is building us up more towards the general idea of what is happening. Just another piece of that puzzle. Right now it boils down to what theory you believe in. Some people still think the monarchy is controlling everything to get what he wants, including altering the people around him's emotions, so we still don't have a clear picture of what's going on. That may explain why people think some character are acting OOC right now.
 
I'm enjoying the ride though.
 
 

Some people believe her emotions are being controlled by the King. That's why she is acting so differently, and why Eren has just given up. We will have to wait and see if these changes are real or simply a side affect of the Kings power. I'm more interested to find out his excuse to "why" he can't die and is so special.
 
I'm also interested in what Kenny's Grandfather hinted at:
 
"The King's dream was to rewrite the memories of mankind as a whole. To eradicate the past..... And create a flawless theory of peace."
 
For the people who believe the state is the root of all evil in this world, that quote is very interesting.
 
It also makes the opening narration interesting to me if the state is indeed evil, and a big part of what's going on.
 
"And just like that, everything changed. At that terrible moment, in our hearts, we knew. Home was a pen. Humanity, cattle."


I hope the king is, because I didn't mind her at the beginning. Don't like her so much now though lol

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Posted 09 January 2015 - 08:10 PM

Chapter 65

 

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Posted 09 January 2015 - 08:12 PM

Hating how recently Historia has donned this air of superiority about her...it's really kinda annoying. 

 

I noticed this too, same feelings, i really hope she doesn't end up what this chpater hinted she would do


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Posted 09 January 2015 - 08:44 PM

 

Thoughts

Me trying to be smart but failing

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Posted 09 January 2015 - 08:49 PM

Me trying to be smart but failing

 

You sounded smart to me lol

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Posted 09 January 2015 - 09:21 PM

  
I kinda liked her at first, I really didn't mind her. But after she found out that she was royalty she's kinda been thumbing her nose at everyone subtly, and it's rubbing me the wrong way lol

I hope the king is, because I didn't mind her at the beginning. Don't like her so much now though lol

The King is more powerful then we are being led on. A few things are obvious at this point that should be illuminated upon.

 

1. At first it was hinted at that the elite of Europe ran away from the titans (possibly across the ocean to America) hence the background images we get in every volume. Click to see it.

 

1 A. From this chapter we know that isn't true. Instead of the survivors being made up of the elites of Europe, what they are is mostly made up of a hand picked people who can be controlled by the power that resides in the king's family line. The only "divergent" to use the phrase brought up by trang was hinting at, are the families who were in support of the king (The king's right hand men), and some "Asians"  who we assume discovered the "walled city" but came from the pacific. This is important later of course.

 

2. It was stated multiple times that humanity built the walls. Of course at the time most simply believed that the elite used their power and influence to build the walled city, as the rest of humanity died from extinction buying them time to finish their product across the ocean. A cult even sprang up around them, having them be declared as "God's gifts" to mankind in their time of need. That isn't that surprising honestly in a post apocalyptic setting new age religious groups are often found. Click to see it.

 

2 A. Although we've known for awhile that the walls weren't "built" by humanity as previously hinted at, but are instead constructed by colossus titans who are using a hardening technique. What is hinted at in the chapter though is that "humanity" built the walls... in the sense that the royal family built them in order to contain the people that they could control behind them. In other words the original King/royal family took a group of people that he knew he could control, built up a huge barrier, placed said people in there pen and started to create his "perfect society".

 

3. The walls are there to protect the people from the evils of the titans.

 

3 A. There is no doubt that the Titans are a threat. As we have learned they essentially are a terrible biological weapon that turn individual people into mindless monstrous slaves, who are essentially programmed to eat their fellow man in order to regain their humanity. Although it's been shown that the titans may have a subconscious understanding of their former self (the servant who bowed to Ilse, believing she was his Princess, Yomiru. And of course more tragically Conny's mother who still welcomes her baby boy home even after she's been transformed into a Titan) they ultimately don't have any control of the matter. With the servant and of course Ymir what we learn is that all of humanity wasn't destroyed 100 years ago. In fact Ymir had been a titan for 70 years also hints that there was structured civilization outside the city walls even after mankind's supposed "extinction". This is highlighted even more so with the other Titan Shifters who all come from the outside world beyond the wall. Meaning that even if the Titans themselves are the main threat to humanity, that humanity itself hasn't been completely wiped out outside the safety of the walls.

 

So are the walls truly there to just keep the titian's out? Or is this a secondary function? Perhaps the main function of the walls is to keep the "hand picked" people in, where the royal family can control them easier.

 

Again from the opening narration: " Home was a pen. Humanity, cattle."

 

4. The elites are all with the King. Their loyalty is completely invested in the royal bloodline, and their faith in them is because the Royal Family is humanities best chance to destroy the Titans.

 

4 A. We now know this is bullsh**. The elites are there because their families have always supported the ideals of the Royal Family, and the King's plans for a "peaceful" society. In fact the elite families are the few who are not controlled by King. Not only that the King can not control them, meaning they are a huge threat to them when they won't play ball. Two families have chosen not to play ball. The Ackerman Family, and one of the Asian's. This puts many things into focus.

 

4 A1: We now know the reason that elites were paying top dollars for pure blooded "Asians". Although it was hinted at that they were sold into slavery because of their exotic nature (which maybe their sex appeal was a secondary plus), but now we are getting hints that Mikasa's mother was killed because she is from this "rebel" family. Therefor she is a threat to the monarchy. Which also explains why Mikasa has so much more talent then the other people. Mikasa can use her fullest efforts in order to fight, she has no built in mental controls connected to her. It also explains how Mikasa's mother and father likely meet and feel in love. They both were outcast of elite families who rejected the utopian dreams of the mad Kings. Mikasa believed it was because of her race that her Mother was discriminated against... now it seems more likely that it was because her family became disillusioned with what the Royal Family was doing that she and her family was persecuted by the state.

 

4 A 2. Obviously this lack of any mental controls also hints to why Kenny is such a tough SOB, and may also hint to why Levi is a tough SOB. He maybe related to Kenny. Right now I'm guess Kenny is really Levi's uncle, and Levi is the baby that Kenny was talking about in this chapter. In other words Levi is the child born from Kenny's sister's (her name is Kuciel I guess) prostitute lifestyle. This fact is also why Kenny raised Levi, despite being a harden murder by then. Kenny felt compelled to take care of his sister's child.

 

4 A 3. It also explains why Levi and Mikasa are so damn powerful compared to other humans. Without any subconscious controls holding them back, they can work towards their full potential. They may even unknowingly be related at this point. As well as: This

 

I wonder what Kenny is talking about when he speaks of a "branch family" in the shiganshina district. Curiouser and curiouser, but the pieces are begin to fall into place.


Edited by Tiller, 09 January 2015 - 09:24 PM.


 





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