i just dont want to see sakura break naruto's heart again, he was forced to make that promise and he was very sad because he knew that she really loved sasuke.
Sakur didn't force him into a promise, Naruto did it on his own accord. Don't forget that Sasuke is also extremely important to him; their bond is emphasized several times in the manga. She didn't break his heart, she didn't know he geniunely liked her.
eh, you got me. However, Sasuke has always and always will refuse to believe anyone understands his pain. There are plenty of characters in his life that experienced the loss he did. Look at Kakashi, He lost both his best friends, his mentor, and his father committed suicide. But Sasuke has never acknowledged anyone else's empathy. Also, empathy doesn't require experiencing the same situation as someone else. And even beyond that, you don't need to empathize with someone to know what they're doing is wrong.
Unless you experience a smililar situation as someone else, you can't say you empathize with them, because you have no basis for it. Kakashi never told Sasuke about his past, although Sasuke did have a reaction when he heard they were all dead. However, it doesn't matter, because Kakashi wasn't Sasuke's "brother."
I think it comes with the possibility of it happening, not that it will happen.
I have written many paragraphs on this and on many forum post. I made mention that basically because Naruto is willing to forgive Sasuke no matter what he does, it kind of seems like Sasuke is immune to fault or punishment.
Nate River said in the discussion we had in the last chapter was that if Sasuke does something really evil and Naruto HAS to forgive him, then that makes Naruto really stupid. Same thing here, there is a fear that Sakura will say "Oh I understand, so all is forgiven."
(I made mention that Heroes are stupid, but that's a different discussion)
That's just ridiculous and basically saying that Sasuke can get away with anything. That the fear everyone has. And if Sakura is willing to do this, then what is to say she wont fall back in love with him? It's these kind of things that I have seen in manga happen before, and it really is such a terrible writing plot.
It happened in Tokyo Mew Mew where Ichigo was in love with the boy who turns out to be the villain. You have another boy who likes her and protects her, but he gets nothing. He even nearly dies protecting her and yet he gets nothing in the end. She still goes out with the original guy she was in love with even though the facts are against him. It also ended with her saying "I understand it all now."
It's not a writing plot I tend to like cause it feels like the good guys get punished while the bad guys get away with it and possibly even rewarded.
I think we need a confirmation that even though Naruto and Sakura might understand why Sasuke did all this because of what he went through, that it shouldn't excuse his actions. There is a difference between understanding and condoning. You can understand and still not condone the actions.
Sasuke should still be punished no matter what understanding Naruto and Sakura have. Biggest of all, we don't want to see SasuSaku happen with the only premise being that Sakura "understands him" and ignore everything he has tried to do to her and how bad he treated her (he treated her bad even before he became evil). It's just a terrible writing plot.
I am hoping Kishi doesn't do this, but the possibility is growing.
I forgot to add, that if Sakura doesn't "forgive" Sasuke then we can't fault her either or say she is any less of a hero. Because even Naruto wasn't able to forgive Nagato.
It may not be impossible, but essentially having Sakura "fall in love" with Sasuke is contradictory to the lover nin's and Karui's interfences. Secondly, Tsunade's death is partially caused by Sasuke. Lastly, having her empathize Sasuke is not the same as having Naruto empathize with Sasuke. Naruto needed it to further his bond with his friend-rival-brother. Sakura doesn't share that bond at all.
Ummm....you know what I think we have a misunderstanding here on both ends. Would it better to say that I agree with you? That I don't think Sakura understanding Sasuke will turn her romance back on. I know it won't work, but I was just explaining why some don't like the idea of Sakura understanding Sasuke.
I don't understand why some people think empathy = falling in love.
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The difference I see is that in Tokyo Mew Mew the romance is more predominant while Naruto it takes a back seat, but I still hate when manga does this. I don't mind love triangles, but when you don't even have the main character having a conflict in the love triangle it makes it sound weird.
The way it was written seems like Ichigo would be with Ryo if Masaya wasn't around, but really Masaya doesn't have to do much to gain her affection. Meanwhile, Ryo puts his life on the line and is immediately ignored. And since romance plays a bigger role, you think it would create a much bigger conflict where she doesn't know who she wants to be with and ends up choosing someone based on a long emotional struggle. I have seen stories with love triangles and they have a much better conflict to it.
That's what I would hate to happen to Naruto. If all this development occurs between Sakura and Naruto, but she ends up with Sasuke just because he smiles at her, then I will be sadly disappointed. It will be very unlikely it will happen, but I would hate it if he doe go this route.
As far as manga goes, Tokyo Mew Mew is probably the most ridiculous series there is. The story is about a group of girls in insane outfits, fightning aliens with sparkly heart shaped weapons. It is a shoujo manga where the girl is always involved in a love triangle, and tall-dark-and-handsome always wins. Except this guy actually likes her.
I guess that is what would describe a true hero even if he is seen as being delusional. It would be interesting if Naruto even admitted that it seemed stupid or foolish, but still remained loyal to his beliefs.
Maybe that's what really describes a hero. Someone who is willing to fight for the right morals despite if people wish to do evil.
I just hope Kishi knows what he is doing. I really want Sasuke to be evil to have a reason to be redeemed.
That is the very thing that separates Sasuke from Naruto. Sasuke can't forgive or change people, he can only destroy, with horrific results. Naruto is beyond the hate, and because of that, he can save other people.
Edited by Nefertieh, 14 September 2012 - 06:49 AM.
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