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[James S Cassidy]

Actually he can end naruto and sakura with other people also with the development they had still intact because the development could be taken as in a friendly manner since the feelings fo sakura towards naruto are still unknown! So if he ends them with other people or even SS and NH happens i think he will keep the development by keeping them very good friends! Although I seriously hope that the development they had turns out to be romantic and NS happens in the end!

Yeah...no. That's what I call wasted development and not just because I am a NaruSaku fan. NH fans and SS fans try playing this off saying it is all friendly terms or they see each other as brother and sister, but the fact that we got these really powerful scenes between them makes it seem like they are more than just friends. It may have started like that, but it is quickly being more than that.

Friends don't really ask each other out on dates or flirt between them or blush around them. I have plenty of girls who are friends and I don't do any of that. I did once, but ended when I found out she was into someone else and we kept it at friendship. That was only after I knew she had no feelings for me.

Tokyo Mew Mew had this problem with the development I think where the main love interest had very little interaction with the main character, while this other character who was in love with the main character was always with her, always protecting her, and even kissed her a few times. He even saved her on many occasions and yet he got nothing to really show for it. She ended up with the other guy anyway. That's what I call wasted development. While some have argued over it, I still remain by my beliefs that it was wasted development.

[LinksmaLope]

I saw a lot of people saying things that "Sakura doesn't deserve Naruto's love!" "Only Hinata deserves Naruto" "Sasuke doesn't deserve Sakura" and so on,but are they some kind of trophies that you need to deserve? I think everyone deserves everyone equally with no exceptions in love.Actually i could be wrong,i'm not denying it , but it's just my opinion.What do you think?

[Don-kun]

I saw a lot of people saying things that "Sakura doesn't deserve Naruto's love!" "Only Hinata deserves Naruto" "Sasuke doesn't deserve Sakura" and so on,but are they some kind of trophies that you need to deserve? I think everyone deserves everyone equally with no exceptions in love.Actually i could be wrong,i'm not denying it , but it's just my opinion.What do you think?

After you treat a person like crap you really don't deserve her love and worse if you try to erase that person from existence.
Love is not about deserves or not deserves, is about mutual affection, but in this case it perfectly applys with Sasuke he doesn't deserves a free pass with all the crap he did to others especialy his friends, much less to have Sakura or any other kunishi for konoha to love him back is just stup*d to do that.

As I said many times before the development is already been done and Kishi has shown that their friendship is between best friends turning to lovers. NS is there alive and well Kishi is not going to bother wasting panel time showing the reader to remind him who loves who. Naruto loves Sakura that will never change, Sakura has already chosen who is the most important person to her and wants to protect, Kishi needs to add tension and drama that's why he's keeping NH and SS as pairing fodder.

Now what's annoying me is why do Sasuke needs to end up with someone for a pairing? He doesn't deserve to be pair up with someone, in fact he could care less about that. He's not interested in the least to have a woman but here we go again he has to end up with someone and it has to be Sakura. It has to be her so that NH can happen without SS there's no NH, and even if by a miracle SS becomes canon NH will never become canon Naruto will never love Hinata, having a relationship with her will be nothing but living a big lie. I haven't lost my faith in NS so why do others have to lose it just because of one panel from 540???

99.9% of the people here still believe NS will be the End Game and SS will never happen otherwise they would not be here, unless they love to troll (yes I'm looking at the troll no names), another note: I honestly admire your determination. And like you say Sasuke doesn't need to be paired with anyone his redemption is already a bad thing.

My concern is with NH, and the fact that Naruto loves Sakura he always love her and will always continue to do so, but the popularity of Hinata fans may influences the story a lot. if NH happens they will force Sakura to be with Sasuke just to balance the fact that she his the main heroine and she deserves her man too.

I honestly believe that Naruto will never reject Hinata's feelings, Kishi milked that pairing for far to long, the only effective way to nullify NH now is with Hinata's realization, to have her witness how strong is the effect Naruto on Sakura have on each other, how deeply they care for each other, so when the time comes for Naruto to have a talk with Hinata she will be the one to say, it's ok Naruto, I now where your heart truly belongs, accepting the fact that Sakura was finally able to love him back, now he can finaly be happy with the person he always love.
Naruto I can see that Sakura-san really loves you, then Naruto apologizing and thanking Hinata and tells her there is a great guy waiting for her, with a flashback of him speaking with Neje/Kiba/Shino speaking about Hinata.
Finaly for comic relief Hinata will say, it was about dam time with you two, what take your guys so long? then giggles.

For me there is no other way, there is no let her down easy here it will always have a bad taste, Hinata need to be the one that let go Naruto not him. I doesn't make sense for Naruto to let go of his feeling, because he is the main character.

[ciardha]

Also there is something I always wonder, Kishi did say that he already picture the final pairing from the start he just need to find the way to go about it, what comes to mind? the splash from chapter one pag. 3 and chapter 3,

And I counter with splash page chapter 1 page 2
http://read.mangasha...01/page003.html

And looky what we have here- Sasuke far apart from the rest alone on a hawk, Sakura gazing toward Naruto and blushing. The very first chapter of Naruto, and the first image of the the four main characters, can't get more "from the start" than this. Kishimoto's first drawing of Sakura in publication and she's looking toward Naruto and blushing...

and Sakura a detestable person from the start.

No he didn't.

also there is this he say that Naruto will not have anyone close to him or someone that he really trust

No he didn't.

[lord287]

After you treat a person like crap you really don't deserve her love and worse if you try to erase that person from existence.
Love is not about deserves or not deserves, is about mutual affection, but in this case it perfectly applys with Sasuke he doesn't deserves a free pass with all the crap he did to others especialy his friends, much less to have Sakura or any other kunishi for konoha to love him back is just stup*d to do that.





99.9% of the people here still believe NS will be the End Game and SS will never happen otherwise they would not be here, unless they love to troll (yes I'm looking at the troll no names), another note: I honestly admire your determination. And like you say Sasuke doesn't need to be paired with anyone his redemption is already a bad thing.

My concern is with NH, and the fact that Naruto loves Sakura he always love her and will always continue to do so, but the popularity of Hinata fans may influences the story a lot. if NH happens they will force Sakura to be with Sasuke just to balance the fact that she his the main heroine and she deserves her man too.

I honestly believe that Naruto will never reject Hinata's feelings, Kishi milked that pairing for far to long, the only effective way to nullify NH now is with Hinata's realization, to have her witness how strong is the effect Naruto on Sakura have on each other, how deeply they care for each other, so when the time comes for Naruto to have a talk with Hinata she will be the one to say, it's ok Naruto, I now where your heart truly belongs, accepting the fact that Sakura was finally able to love him back, now he can finaly be happy with the person he always love.
Naruto I can see that Sakura-san really loves you, then Naruto apologizing and thanking Hinata and tells her there is a great guy waiting for her, with a flashback of him speaking with Neje/Kiba/Shino speaking about Hinata.
Finaly for comic relief Hinata will say, it was about dam time with you two, what take your guys so long? then giggles.

For me there is no other way, there is no let her down easy here it will always have a bad taste, Hinata need to be the one that let go Naruto not him. I doesn't make sense for Naruto to let go of his feeling, because he is the main character.

i kind of agree with you that naruto won't hurt hinata's feelings or anyone else's feelings for himself which he shows by still not believing that sakura can come to love him! But for me and many people over here the main problem for NS is not hinata (atleast i don't see hinata as great danger to NS), but the problem for NS is Sakura's feelings towards sasuke! It will not be fully acceptable by NS fans until sakura totally, honestly and full heartedly shows or proves to naruto that she loves him and only cares for sasuke like any other friend! But chapter 540 showed even though she is sad she still loves sasuke! I am really waiting for kishi to explain that thing properly with proper moment between naruto and sakura this time, not like the confession where it appeared she did it half heartedly or was not true!

It will be all clear if naruto states in the manga now that he still loves sakura after her confession and all, but i don't see it happening soon too because then NS will be kind of 99% confirm since Naruto is main character and his feelings definitely play major role over sakura's or sasuke's feelings!!

Edited by lord287, 13 April 2012 - 06:35 PM.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

Man, people don't get it. Sakura has proven that she would sacrifice her life for Naruto back at the bridge arc. She has shown to fall in love with Naruto over the course of the manga.

[Gravenimage]

i kind of agree with you that naruto won't hurt hinata's feelings or anyone else's feelings for himself which he shows by still not believing that sakura can come to love him! But for me and many people over here the main problem for NS is not hinata (atleast i don't see hinata as great danger to NS), but the problem for NS is Sakura's feelings towards sasuke! It will not be fully acceptable by NS fans until sakura totally, honestly and full heartedly shows or proves to naruto that she loves him and only cares for sasuke like any other friend! But chapter 540 showed even though she is sad she still loves sasuke! I am really waiting for kishi to explain that thing properly with proper moment between naruto and sakura this time, not like the confession where it appeared she did it half heartedly or was not true!

It will be all clear if naruto states in the manga now that he still loves sakura after her confession and all, but i don't see it happening soon too because then NS will be kind of 99% confirm since Naruto is main character and his feelings definitely play major role over sakura's or sasuke's feelings!!

As I said Kishi doesn't have to show now that Naruto loves Sakura he has shown it since the beginning of the manga from chapter 3 onward especially 457 telling Sai that he couldn't tell her his feelings since he can't keep his promise to her. Right now they are in the middle of a war to decide the fate of the world and you want Kishi to waste panel time drawing Naruto thinking of Sakura and reminding all of us that she's the girl he will always love no matter what. Understand this if Hinata's confession didn't changed his mind then Sakura's sacrifice of their friendship because of her confession and her suicidal mission to kill Sasuke won't either. He proved it when he saved her from Sasuke and afterwards when Sakura told him that Tsunade has woken up he looked very happy not showing any anger or rejection towards her. If you have little faith for NS then I suggest you go back to read the manga from the beginning part 1.

Edited by Gravenimage, 13 April 2012 - 07:37 PM.

[Don-kun]

And I counter with splash page chapter 1 page 2
http://read.mangasha...01/page003.html

And looky what we have here- Sasuke far apart from the rest alone on a hawk, Sakura gazing toward Naruto and blushing. The very first chapter of Naruto, and the first image of the the four main characters, can't get more "from the start" than this. Kishimoto's first drawing of Sakura in publication and she's looking toward Naruto and blushing...




No he didn't.



No he didn't.

Come on Ciardha the first thing I say that there was a splash in chapter 1 page 3 and then he make it very clear who is the girl Naruto likes in chapter 3.

I did say that in the interview that is intention was to show her more of a real life girl, then he say that he was planning to make her more of a heroin like in the future, don't you see the dramatic change between Sakura part one and Sakura part two.

Plus he did Say that Shikamaru will become more of a confident for Naruto if you want to disagree with the pairing part of the interview I'm with you but why will everything he say will be change by pairing fans.

[PachucoDesigns]

So what if Naruto couldn't see and remember it? All it would take is that Yamato told him what happened and how Sakura got injured. That scene is a perfectly valid NS moment.

Doesn't matter if it's valid. Like I said, we're not trying to justify your sentiments here. We're trying to decide what would be enough to trigger it happening in their world despite what you want. Hearing about it is fine. But it isn't dramatic enough, not emotionally striking enough.

[Gravenimage]

Doesn't matter if it's valid. Like I said, we're not trying to justify your sentiments here. We're trying to decide what would be enough to trigger it happening in their world despite what you want. Hearing about it is fine. But it isn't dramatic enough, not emotionally striking enough.

I would go with what ciardha said Sakura punching Sasuke protecting Naruto way better then getting in front of him and getting killed before confessing, sorry but what Hinata did was pretty selfish and stupid.

[PachucoDesigns]

I would go with what ciardha said Sakura punching Sasuke protecting Naruto way better then getting in front of him and getting killed before confessing, sorry but what Hinata did was pretty selfish and stupid.

Sacrificing her own safety to try and protect Naruto was...selfish? Does not compute.

And also, having seen that page, I don't see her doing anything deliberately for Naruto. In fact, I see her doing it for herself. "Next time, I will help, too! I will stop Sasuke-kun with my own power!" Doing this for Naruto's sake didn't even seem to cross her mind. Seems like she was doing it more for the sake of taking responsibility and contributing like she should. She was following Naruto's example, not sacrificing her own safety for him alone. Hinata actually jumped in with the intention of helping Naruto above and beyond her own considerations.

I'm sorry, but that argument is just saturated with bias.

Edited by PachucoDesigns, 13 April 2012 - 10:49 PM.

[Strangelove]

Sacrificing her own safety to try and protect Naruto was...selfish? Does not compute.

And also, having seen that page, I don't see her doing anything deliberately for Naruto. In fact, I see her doing it for herself. "Next time, I will help, too! I will stop Sasuke-kun with my own power!" Doing this for Naruto's sake didn't even seem to cross her mind. Seems like she was doing it more for the sake of taking responsibility and contributing like she should. She was following Naruto's example, not sacrificing her own safety for him alone. Hinata actually jumped in with the intention of helping Naruto above and beyond her own considerations.

I'm sorry, but that argument is just saturated with bias.

I agree there is a lot of biased, then again this is a NaruSaku forum, so there is bound to be some bias. No she wasn't selfish, she was silly, she should have removed the spikes, instead she got a blast to the face.

Edited by Strangelove, 13 April 2012 - 10:55 PM.

[PachucoDesigns]

I agree there is a lot of biased, then again this is a NaruSaku forum, so there is bound to be some bias.

So I've come to notice. lol

[Gravenimage]

Sacrificing her own safety to try and protect Naruto was...selfish? Does not compute.

And also, having seen that page, I don't see her doing anything deliberately for Naruto. In fact, I see her doing it for herself. "Next time, I will help, too! I will stop Sasuke-kun with my own power!" Doing this for Naruto's sake didn't even seem to cross her mind. Seems like she was doing it more for the sake of taking responsibility and contributing like she should. She was following Naruto's example, not sacrificing her own safety for him alone. Hinata actually jumped in with the intention of helping Naruto above and beyond her own considerations.

I'm sorry, but that argument is just saturated with bias.

There were many things she could have done instead of telling him I love you and charged head first against an opponent that took down Jiraiya and Kakashi without a proper strategy. She could have broken the chakra spikes that we're preventing Naruto from moving, at least Pierot acknowledged that with ep 166 adding that scene as filler and I even admit it was decent and acceptable except for the part of surviving three shinra tensei. I admire her sacrifice but she wasn't thinking clearly and Naruto wasn't happy with seeing her he told her to stay away, exactly what he told Tsunade that he didn't wanted no one from interfering in his fight in order to prevent what happened to Hinata. Even if she did it for the right reasons in protecting him she only made things worst by making Naruto go six tails all the way to eight tails endagering the safety of the entire village (things went worse because of her sacrifice). If it wasn't for the fourth to appeared and redo the seal then everyone would have gotten killed.

And yet her fandom says she saved Naruto. Pachucco you probably want Sakura to do the same thing but here's the reality check, if Sakura was the one in Hinata's place she would still be hated, instead of being called a savior for risking her life to save Naruto they will call her useless weak b**** and don't tell me I'm exaggerating because it's the truth and you know I'm right. Naruto may have acknowledged Sakura a long time ago and probably accepts her love but opposite fandom and the ones who hate her would never accept her no matter how many good deeds she will do for his safety. Hinata is over rated she is a pure heart angelic saint that would never hurt Naruto and Sakura is the opposite. Besides it's not the first time the tsundere heroine has been hated before.

Examples Kagome from Inuyasha I remember how many people hated her and they still do, saying that she was always in Inuyasha and Kikyo's way of them getting together and even if both of them we're in love at one time, Inuyasha fell in love with Kagome and they got married. Although there were times I doubted his feelings for her because it's been shown that he was always thinking of Kikyo, but in the end he chose the girl who has always supported and stood by his side.

Another example Akane from Ramna1/2 wow I remember how big her anti fan club was. So many people hated her so much. They always bash her and they prefer for Ranma to end up with Shampoo because she was always nice to him and treated him with respect. But in the end Ranma fell in love and they got together. They got married as planned by their parents since the beginning of the series.

I think I went off topic.

[TerrorKing]

Doesn't matter if it's valid. Like I said, we're not trying to justify your sentiments here. We're trying to decide what would be enough to trigger it happening in their world despite what you want. Hearing about it is fine. But it isn't dramatic enough, not emotionally striking enough.

Well in that case Naruto saving Sakura from Gaara doesn't count either, as Sakura was unconscious the entire time. As for what would trigger it in their world? An honest conversation. That's all.

[PachucoDesigns]

There were many things she could have done instead of telling him I love you and charged head first against an opponent that took down Jiraiya and Kakashi without a proper strategy. She could have broken the chakra spikes that we're preventing Naruto from moving, at least Pierot acknowledged that with ep 166 adding that scene as filler and I even admit it was decent and acceptable except for the part of surviving three shinra tensei. I admire her sacrifice but she wasn't thinking clearly and Naruto wasn't happy with seeing her he told her to stay away, exactly what he told Tsunade that he didn't wanted no one from interfering in his fight in order to prevent what happened to Hinata. Even if she did it for the right reasons in protecting him she only made things worst by making Naruto go six tails all the way to eight tails endagering the safety of the entire village (things went worse because of her sacrifice). If it wasn't for the fourth to appeared and redo the seal then everyone would have gotten killed.

And yet her fandom says she saved Naruto. Pachucco you probably want Sakura to do the same thing but here's the reality check, if Sakura was the one in Hinata's place she would still be hated, instead of being called a savior for risking her life to save Naruto they will call her useless weak b**** and don't tell me I'm exaggerating because it's the truth and you know I'm right. Naruto may have acknowledged Sakura a long time ago and probably accepts her love but opposite fandom and the ones who hate her would never accept her no matter how many good deeds she will do for his safety. Hinata is over rated she is a pure heart angelic saint that would never hurt Naruto and Sakura is the opposite. Besides it's not the first time the tsundere heroine has been hated before.

Examples Kagome from Inuyasha I remember how many people hated her and they still do, saying that she was always in Inuyasha and Kikyo's way of them getting together and even if both of them we're in love at one time, Inuyasha fell in love with Kagome and they got married. Although there were times I doubted his feelings for her because it's been shown that he was always thinking of Kikyo, but in the end he chose the girl who has always supported and stood by his side.

Another example Akane from Ramna1/2 wow I remember how big her anti fan club was. So many people hated her so much. They always bash her and they prefer for Ranma to end up with Shampoo because she was always nice to him and treated him with respect. But in the end Ranma fell in love and they got together. They got married as planned by their parents since the beginning of the series.

I think I went off topic.

I do not see how it was selfish, I do not see how it was stupid. You're speaking from hindsight bias, knowing what is to come. Put yourself in her shoes. Your entire village has just been flattened by a veritable nuclear bomb of an opponent. You're staring death right in the face. The man you love is fighting for the sake of the entire village with no help, and the fate of the entire ninja world evidently rides on his shoulders. He is about to die, and not only are you about to lose him, not only are you about to lose your chance to confess, but you can literally see the world coming to an end right in front of your eyes. So, what does she do? She throws inhibition to the wind and does the only thing she can think to do to stop it from happening. She's loved him since the day she met him, and she could never tell him so. She's staring death in the face, and this bay be the last chance she ever gets. So she throws inhibition to the wind and confesses like she always should have.

How anyone can see this act as either stupid or selfish, I have no idea. It takes a special kind of bias to see it that way. Yeah, you are right. I know you're right, because you're doing the same thing to Hinata right now. Bias exists on both sides of this fence, and both do everything they can to degrade their rival character out of context. And the same thing would be done in the NaruHina camp if the tables were turned, you're absolutely right. It's ridiculous from both angles.

Yeah, I did hate Kagome. Yeah, it largely was because of her Tsundere disposition. But, more to the point, it was the fact that she literally had him on a leash, abused him constantly, and STILL thought she was entitled to his emotional sensitivity, let alone considering herself lucky that she wasn't mauled to death in her sleep. And the anime granted her every wish in the end. The end justified even the most ridiculous means. He chose the girl who constantly buried him in the dirt with a sit command, perhaps one of the most demasculating acts in the history of anime, because the anime revolved around her to begin with.

As for Ranma 1/2, I was never a fan, so I can't really comment. Then again, I can't really say I was a "fan" of Inuyasha, either.

Well in that case Naruto saving Sakura from Gaara doesn't count either, as Sakura was unconscious the entire time. As for what would trigger it in their world? An honest conversation. That's all.

Exactly.

[CloudMountainJuror]

I do not see how it was selfish, I do not see how it was stupid. You're speaking from hindsight bias, knowing what is to come. Put yourself in her shoes. Your entire village has just been flattened by a veritable nuclear bomb of an opponent. You're staring death right in the face. The man you love is fighting for the sake of the entire village with no help, and the fate of the entire ninja world evidently rides on his shoulders. He is about to die, and not only are you about to lose him, not only are you about to lose your chance to confess, but you can literally see the world coming to an end right in front of your eyes. So, what does she do? She throws inhibition to the wind and does the only thing she can think to do to stop it from happening. She's loved him since the day she met him, and she could never tell him so. She's staring death in the face, and this bay be the last chance she ever gets. So she throws inhibition to the wind and confesses like she always should have.

How anyone can see this act as either stupid or selfish, I have no idea. It takes a special kind of bias to see it that way. Yeah, you are right. I know you're right, because you're doing the same thing to Hinata right now. Bias exists on both sides of this fence, and both do everything they can to degrade their rival character out of context. And the same thing would be done in the NaruHina camp if the tables were turned, you're absolutely right. It's ridiculous from both angles.

He was fighting with no help because he demanded that he had none. Anyone else would have just gotten in the way (like Hinata undeniably did).
Do you really think that Naruto needed that little extra load on his mind at that time? He's having a rough time as it is, then here comes Hinata, saying she loves him, when she's not supposed to be there in the first place. That's why it's selfish. Did you see anyone else going to try and help him? No. Why? Not because they didn't care about him, because they believed in him and knew that they'd only make things worse if they did try to help. Hinata evidently didn't believe in his ability enough, and she ended up making things worse, just like everyone else knew (including Naruto) knew would happen if anyone else interfered.

And @the bolded, excuse me, I hope that I'm wrong here, but was that an attempt at being condescending? Because that's sure how it came across.

[PachucoDesigns]

He was fighting with no help because he demanded that he had none. Anyone else would have just gotten in the way (like Hinata undeniably did).
Do you really think that Naruto needed that little extra load on his mind at that time? He's having a rough time as it is, then here comes Hinata, saying she loves him, when she's not supposed to be there in the first place. That's why it's selfish. Did you see anyone else going to try and help him? No. Why? Not because they didn't care about him, because they believed in him and knew that they'd only make things worse if they did try to help. Hinata evidently didn't believe in his ability enough, and she ended up making things worse, just like everyone else knew (including Naruto) knew would happen if anyone else interfered.

And @the bolded, excuse me, I hope that I'm wrong here, but was that an attempt at being condescending? Because that's sure how it came across.

What exactly is your point? They're supposed to respect his wishes to fight alone even up to and beyond the point where he is about to lose? What kind of a fool would sit on the sidelines at that point simply to fulfill his wishes? And I'm sorry, but of what, exactly, was Hinata in the way? What was she interrupting? Naruto being stapled to the ground by his feet as well as his hands? Naruto's awesome attack that he was just about to spring from his fingertips? Was he just about to blink Pain to death?

It's not selfish at all, it was perfectly appropriate, and anyone in their right mind who cares enough would do it. And let's be real here. If it was not Hinata who did that, but rather Sakura (which could have been easily arranged), there is no way in hell anyone on this board would be saying how "stupid" or "selfish" it was. Certainly, Sakura's confession wasn't "selfish," was it? I mean, Naruto didn't have anything on his plate at the time, did he? He was on vacation. And it was totally unselfish to try and take on Sasuke alone, even though Naruto would have wanted to be a part of that confrontation. Do not tell me these things can't be compared. They can, and they are. Rightfully so.

People think I'm playing the devil's advocate. I'm not. I call out BS when I see it, and that includes when it's on my side of the fence. And it seems that there is plenty to call out over here. No, it isn't an attempt to be condescending. It is a fact.

Edited by PachucoDesigns, 13 April 2012 - 11:51 PM.

[Don-kun]

Well in that case Naruto saving Sakura from Gaara doesn't count either, as Sakura was unconscious the entire time. As for what would trigger it in their world? An honest conversation. That's all.

Naruto giving up on the girl he love just to see her happy, Naruto coming after Sakura call out his name for help in the Pain attack, Naruto saving Sakura from been erase from existence by Sasuke, naruto saving Sakura from the 2 Zetzu clones, but who the h**l cares all what matters is that Hinata tell Naruto that she was there only because of her own selfish reason, and why selfish? because she went to sacrify her life, but not before lating him know how she feels about him then run attack and die, any other Rookie girl will try to get Naruto free....yeah right come on now if that event never happen Naruto may never know she was even alive, plus that still did not change the fact that he still find Sakura more endearing an important to him.

PachucoDesign:
Yes it may be bias by NS fans, But if I'm not wrong Hinata her self say that her reason was selfish, and if you want to help someone you just help them, what Hinata did was confess her admiration to Naruto expline him why she love him then get her self kill, that's not what she have in mind but that is what she did, so now show me with Manga panel chapter 437 were I'm been bias here.

Edited by donjoseph19, 14 April 2012 - 12:18 AM.

[CloudMountainJuror]

What exactly is your point? They're supposed to respect his wishes to fight alone even up to and beyond the point where he is about to lose? What kind of a fool would sit on the sidelines at that point simply to fulfill his wishes? And I'm sorry, but of what, exactly, was Hinata in the way? What was she interrupting? Naruto being stapled to the ground by his feet as well as his hands? Naruto's awesome attack that he was just about to spring from his fingertips? Was he just about to blink Pain to death?

It's not selfish at all, it was perfectly appropriate, and anyone in their right mind who cares enough would do it. And let's be real here. If it was not Hinata who did that, but rather Sakura (which could have been easily arranged), there is no way in hell anyone on this board would be saying how "stupid" or "selfish" it was. Certainly, Sakura's confession wasn't "selfish," was it? I mean, Naruto didn't have anything on his plate at the time, did he? He was on vacation. And it was totally unselfish to try and take on Sasuke alone, even though Naruto would have wanted to be a part of that confrontation. Do not tell me these things can't be compared. They can, and they are. Rightfully so.

People think I'm playing the devil's advocate. I'm not. I call out BS when I see it, and that includes when it's on my side of the fence. And it seems that there is plenty to call out over here. No, it isn't an attempt to be condescending. It is a fact.

I'm sure that he would have figured something out if she didn't come by. She lacked faith in Naruto.
She was in the way because...well, look at it this way. He now had another reason to be careful and not let loose. If he was planning to break out somehow, then she wrecked that opportunity potentially by showing up and standing right in his path. She also, you know, went into suicide mode when instead she should have stood there and tried to think for just a second about what she should do before attacking.
And hell no, if Sakura did that not only would it have been selfish, it would have been plain out of character.
Do you honestly think that I don't consider Sakura's confession "selfish"? Lol. It was totally selfish, don't put words into my mouth. That was selfish, as was Hinata's interference. Both of them were selfish. Try asking the question first before assuming and putting words into my mouth, why don't you?

Edited by zacrathedemon5, 14 April 2012 - 12:04 AM.