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[KnS]

Yeah it makes no sense. It's like they take an NS argument (Naruto realised he liked Sakura because she wanted acknowledgment too - actually that's not an argument, it's fact) and try to twist it in their favour. Obviously he never just liked her for that. 

 

Yeah, they skip over the fact that we were clearly shown that Naruto thinks Sakura is cute (not dark and weird), that he wanted to see her naked at the hot springs, and that he is often blown away by her abilities -- like curing Kankuro's poison, for example.

 And then they say, "Since Naruto liked Sakura for her desire for acknowledgement he'll like Hinata, because she wanted acknowledgement too." As if the only reason Naruto ever liked Sakura was cause of that. and I don't think it was ever said (at least not directly) that Hinata wanted acknowledgement? There was that whole thing with her father, but.. idk.

 

We've all said this a zillion times (each, probably), but Hinata is a secondary character at best.  More than that, she is a reflection character.  She is meant to reflect an aspect of Naruto's character -- that he believes in supporting everyone including the underdog, and that success and strength can come from unexpected people.

 

Hinata's personal story, what little of it there may be, takes place completely within the shadow of Naruto's motivation and integrity as a character -- not him personally.  However, people who prefer to view the story from Hinata's perspective will probably never see or understand that truth.

[elmas]

Well right now she's in Kakashi's hands thanks to Susanoo. She looks like she's exhausted and probably used up most of her chakra when she was with Obito. I really don't see another power up from Sakura anytime soon other than the replenishing of her chakra from someone else. Especially considering Kakashi's state right now. He could do some damage, so there isn't a point. Hate to say it but it's likely true. Here's to hoping she will when Kaguya is GONE and something else happens.

I don't want any power up  for her but at least she can do something or end this war already Kishi.It's BORING.

[Change]

Listen guys.... 

 

You're NOT supposed to be bringing posts or comments from somewhere else -- especially without the OP's permission -- posting them here, and inviting comments or asking for rebuttal help.  

 

Multiple requests have now been made for this stuff to stop.  It's inappropriate and encourages bashing.

But what if the debate is in a public thread(Like a debate thread in NF)

I mean the person who's debating is putting it out there for everybody to see

[Illnevergiveup3]

But what if the debate is in a public thread(Like a debate thread in NF)
I mean the person who's debating is putting it out there for everybody to see

lol I'm with you bra but I guess it can be out there lol just not in here...

[ramenanmitsu]

1. Getting him to stop being a pussy doesn't necessarily constitute as standing up to him
 
3. How exactly is it an argument? All she really said was say out loud what Naruto was doing for him because Sakura was angry at him.
 
4. Why would she support Sasuke's sparatic dream of becoming hokage after all that he's done she wouldn't do that even if she did still love him.....and what does this have to do with anything?
 
Where does Juugo/Suigetsu come in? They literally have nothing to do with what we're talking about.

Your above arguments are ridiculous. You're grasping at straws to invalidate SS as much as possible while trying to make SK seem valid. Double standards really. I can do the same towards you.
1. Karin talking back to Sasuke because she doesn't like what he's doing doesn't necessarily constitute as standing up.

3. How is Karin standing up to Sasuke? All she does is talk loudly how she's disagreeing with him.

If my above reasons above sound ridiculous to you, it's because I just used your logic back on you. If you acknowledge one, you can't disregard the similar other.

No you see, you misunderstand. I'm not saying that Sakura standing up to Sasuke don't count because she has reasons, I'm saying that the reasons themselves are what invalidate them, and that is ever single one of those she was practically forced to do so because there was no other option aside from insulting Naruto. Compared to Karin who never had a problem standing up to his decisions or telling him what she thinks is bullsh** in fact throughout the Hebi arc the way Sasuke treated her was completely different then how he treated any other female.
 
I never said you were personally attacking me nor do I feel that way.

You're contradicting yourself. I said that YOU are saying that Sakura standing up to Sasuke doesn't count because of the reasons. It's the same thing as "reasons invalidating them". And I say that, that argument is bad because 1. it doesn't change the fact that she did stand up to him and 2. I can turn it around and use it for SK. "Karin never really stood up to Sasuke. She kept on disagreeing with him out of necessity because she was tsundere. It was either that or change her personality. " I'm using the same logic you're using here.

Sasuke treated Karin better than any other female? Sorry, I don't have pairing goggles for pairings like SS and SK. You'd have to be more specific. I don't know if you're a SS fan as well, but your arguments are completely same with SS. "Sasuke treated Sakura differently." "Sasuke actually cares for Sakura deep inside but he doesn't show it". I don't see those things happening in the manga, either I'm reading a different manga with you and the SS fans or I'm interpreting it incorrectly.

And no, you were accusing me of "mocking" you.

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 18 August 2014 - 10:20 PM.

[KnS]

But what if the debate is in a public thread(Like a debate thread in NF)

I mean the person who's debating is putting it out there for everybody to see

 

Doesn't matter.  We still don't want it here.  If people want to debate it, they should comment where it is posted. 

[Sakura~]

Well right now she's in Kakashi's hands thanks to Susanoo. She looks like she's exhausted and probably used up most of her chakra when she was with Obito. I really don't see another power up from Sakura anytime soon other than the replenishing of her chakra from someone else. Especially considering Kakashi's state right now. He could do some damage, so there isn't a point. Hate to say it but it's likely true. Here's to hoping she will when Kaguya is GONE and something else happens.

What about SSM?

[elmas]

What about SSM?

The series is ending.Maybe Kishi will have a break and continue the series after 2-3 years.Maybe adult Sakura gets Slug Sage Mode.

[Sakura~]

The series is ending.Maybe Kishi will have a break and continue the series after 2-3 years.Maybe adult Sakura gets Slug Sage Mode.

I just want Sakura to unleash her badassery before the series ends. If the manga ended without it, then I'll be disappointed. I really want a part 3 where Kishi could develop Sakura's character more.

[elmas]

I just want Sakura to unleash her badassery before the series ends. If the manga ended without it, then I'll be disappointed. I really want a part 3 where Kishi could develop Sakura's character more.

Believe me I want BADASS SAKURA who defeats Sasori,Mini juubis and helping Obito

[Raito]

How confident are you guys on NS becoming canon? 

Edited by Raito, 18 August 2014 - 10:33 PM.

[luffyq1]

Believe me I want BADASS SAKURA who defeats Sasori,Mini juubis and helping Obito

I want more of this Sakura too. Just imagine how even more badass Sakura would be if she was devoid of romance. Oh god I'm about to pass out!

[Change]

There's actually people saying Naruto does not resemble Minato                      

That damage control for the MK and NS parallel is real

Edited by TheMagicConch, 18 August 2014 - 10:37 PM.

[elmas]

There's actually people saying Naruto does not resemble Minato                      

That damage control for the MK and NS parallel is real

Who said that?They're blind or read the wrong manga.

 

I want more of this Sakura too. Just imagine how even more badass Sakura would be if she was devoid of romance. Oh god I'm about to pass out!

Me too.I don't mind if there will be a SS or NS moment.She's a very skilled medic-ninja who works hard.But Kishi just playing with her like a toy.It makes me mad.She's the heroine after all.She has an important role,she has her shining moments but then she's saved again by her teammates.Ughh Kishi why!?

[The Deity Zero]

Well, maybe he has a plan idk

[Change]

Who said that?They're blind or read the wrong manga.

 

Me too.I don't mind if there will be a SS or NS moment.She's a very skilled medic-ninja who works hard.But Kishi just playing with her like a toy.It makes me mad.She's the heroine after all.She has an important role,she has her shining moments but then she's saved again by her teammates.Ughh Kishi why!?

Some people from NB

I don't get it anymore, I really don't 

[elmas]

Some people from NB

I don't get it anymore, I really don't 

Ignore them they are just jealous and angry you know that "kanojo" thing   ,they hate Minato cuz he's perfect.        

[Uzumaki9000]

Ignore them they are just jealous and angry you know that "kanojo" thing   ,they hate Minato cuz he's perfect.        

I don't understand when people compare Minato to Sasuke...

[elmas]

I don't understand when people compare Minato to Sasuke...

Noooooooooooooo oooooooh who is Sasuke?That boy who looks like chicken head emo? No just no man

[Change]

Ignore them they are just jealous and angry you know that "kanojo" thing   ,they hate Minato cuz he's perfect.        

The only argument I see it that "there personality is not the same"

I have seen it everywhere though, almost like a copy and paste