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[tonga1]

I always thought it would be amazing if Sasuke were to end up with an Uzumaki girl. Then Karin came.. I don't know I think she has potential but Kishi potrays her in a very weird way..

"naruko" is an uzumaki girl

[Gojira]

1. She had seen Sasuke downgrade Naruto in wave arc. She defends Naruto against that and indirectly says it is actually Sasuke who is a coward. This is standing up to Sasuke.

 

2. Agreed.

 

3. And how is this not supposed to be standing up to Sasuke? Sasuke gives his opinion and Sakura doesn't agree even going as far as actually arguing with him. 

 

4. You forget the fact that Sakura supports Naruto's dream even after hearing Sasuke has the same dream as Naruto. So once again, she is against Sasuke. 

 

Are you seriously saying Karin would do any of these for Juugo/ Suigetsu? LOL

1. Getting him to stop being a pussy doesn't necessarily constitute as standing up to him

 

3. How exactly is it an argument? All she really said was say out loud what Naruto was doing for him because Sakura was angry at him.

 

4. Why would she support Sasuke's sparatic dream of becoming hokage after all that he's done she wouldn't do that even if she did still love him.....and what does this have to do with anything?

 

Where does Juugo/Suigetsu come in? They literally have nothing to do with what we're talking about.

[Naruko]

"naruko" is an uzumaki girl

 

I don't want Sasuke. Get off my way LOL

[Hiraishin]

gaara's hair is red in the manga doe

I think Sakura is similar to Minato in way because they both share the same self depreciating trait.

Huh? Minato is self-depreciating?

Sasuke should have no part whatsoever in the canonization of NS. No references, no "he's bad and you're good for me", and no push from Sasuke himself. Just a simple talk about how Naruto and Sakura currently feel about each other. 

Yes, thank you. It needs to be just about those two. It is NaruSaku, after all. I always see "Sasuke should tell Sakura that she loves Naruto!!" and things like that and I just. Ugh. Sasuke "pushing" Sakura to Naruto, getting involved in their relationship like that, would be OOC anyway.

Edited by Hiraishin, 18 August 2014 - 07:20 PM.

[Gojira]

I'm not trying to mock you either nor is my statement above based on assumption. If you're using a typical method to argue, I'll do the same. If you're making a ridiculous statement, I'll do the same. Nothing more, nothing less. That is what I've been saying.

Your previous argument was bad. I gave moments where Sakura stood up to Sasuke and you replied that they don't count as "speaking up" because she had reasons to speak up. What the hell kind of a logic is that? With your logic, Naruto fighting against Pein doesn't count because he had to protect the village. See how that logic works? Just because Sakura had reasons to speak up, it doesn't change the fact that she did speak up to Sasuke. That's why I added the above statement using YOUR logic to prove that Karin wasn't really speaking out to Sasuke. I was trying to point out your double standard.

Now that I explained myself stop accusing me as if I'm personally attacking you. Thank you.

Now I'm going to sleep, if you want to continue feel free to message me.

No you see, you misunderstand. I'm not saying that Sakura standing up to Sasuke don't count because she has reasons, I'm saying that the reasons themselves are what invalidate them, and that is ever single one of those she was practically forced to do so because there was no other option aside from insulting Naruto. Compared to Karin who never had a problem standing up to his decisions or telling him what she thinks is kitten in fact throughout the Hebi arc the way Sasuke treated her was completely different then how he treated any other female.

 

I never said you were personally attacking me nor do I feel that way.

[elmas]

"1. Naruto. Has. Never. Said. That. He. Loves. Sakura. In. The. Manga. Period.

2. The fact is that he said it BEFORE he KNEW of Hinata's feelings for him (437), AND Sakura's lingering feelings for Sasuke (469).
There's ZERO proof that he didn't CHANGE his opinion on NaruSaku AFTER both confessions.
Or rather, he DID change it - towards NaruHina being POTENTIALLY possible.
No amount of THIRD-PARTY idiocies and assumptions will change that he IS more focused on Hinata ever since 437/469.

There are plenty of instances where we can SEE it openly."

 

"1. He hasn't SAID it or THOUGHT it.

It's ALWAYS implied-by-third-parties.
Well, sorry, but I don't buy such LOW level of "proof".
I only buy WORDS and THOUGHTS.

2. Wait, so HOW THE HFIL are you SUGGESTING for NaruSaku to HAPPEN THEN???
Since Sakura DOES still have feelings for Sasuke.

HE didn't SAY it - only Minato DID.
Naruto reacted way too awckwardly to even decide it either way.
Stop lying to yourself AND others - I'm really getting angry from it.

Hinata was there - yet Hinata wasn't JEALOUS a bit (nor was she during the post-Pain hug).
WHY?
Because she has never viewed Sakura as romantic COMPETITION to begin with.

And I call it wishful thinking based on inattentive reading.
Period.

My proof is:
441 ("Did I destroy HINATA and the villagers?" "Sakura? Sakura WHO?").
558/9 ("Hi, Sakura. Bye, Sakura." "Hinata, you're strong, I can see it in your eyes. I must be really lame, since you saved me already twice.").
615 ("Hinata, it's all thanks to you being by my side." "Sakura, shut your mouth up, Itachi's crow might fly in it.").
THERE, Naruto pays ZERO attention to Sakura, yet FULL attention to Hinata.
Not much of a "boyfriend" behavior, NO?

Sakura is directly involved in the "fight, so why WOULDN'T he talk to her?
But in 441..."

 

Can someone help me here? I'm too tired of writing. 

Just say that

1.Where did Naruto say he desn't love Sakura?Give me a proof right now!

2.Where is a party says that he loves Hinata?Not Kiba,He knows nothing about Naruto.Even Sai knows more

3.Was there a AWARD for Hinata from Kishi like a hug,kiss and even thank you?Nope but there was a thing Kishi gave the readers "A NARUSAKU HUG". I see Hinata nowhere in this,no she was there after all Sakura saved your Goddess.She was smiling cuz she's thankful that Sakura healed her and she could still stalk Naruto and watch him.

4.Was there a sign that Naruto starts to fall in love with Hinata?Umm I can't see please help me!

5.Was there a scene like MK-NH paralel or should I say Minato-Hinata paralel given by Kishi?I can't hear you.No but there was a panel had Kushina-Sakura paralel and comparison by 4th Hokage,Namikaze Minato.Husband of Kushina and father of Naruto.

6.That hand holding is needed because of chakra transfer,Believe me it was actually for chakra trans.Anyways after that hand holding all NH fans expect Minato to see Hinata,right?But he saw Sakura,hero's true love interest and asked her "Are ou my son's GIRLFRIEND?Not girl+friend.Anyways tell me was this scene needed?After all they're in a war and juubi attacks but Minato asked her which Naruto agreed right?

7.Where was Hinata when Naruto was dying?Sure she was laying on a Rock and praying a dead man that she cried for him only 1 min.But Sakura was chosen.Kishi choosed her for that cpr scene.She held his heart and gave him her breath.Hinata can only look at his heart with her eyes but Sakura can feel his heart,touch his heart,protect his dreams,give breath to him .

That's all.Hope it helps.Btw don't talk to them they are desperate for a shining NH moment.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Keep in mind that we are talking about Kishimoto here. The most unpredictable writer out there, and I don't mean unpredictable in a good way.
So him skipping over the moment where Naruto and Sakura finally declare their feelings for each other is highly plausible. So like Liu bie said he might just show Naruto and Sakura married, probably in the last chapter. And voila NS ending.

He already did that, if it leads to NS canon i dont know but he treated Sakura's love as genuine during the whole series to keep milking it until the end and now since he literally wrote himself into a corner he's treating her love for Sasuke as a chidish crush to make her easily overcome that by showing how Sasuke is evil and etc...
 

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 18 August 2014 - 07:43 PM.

[FireFox]

I honest to god thought there was a flying steak. I was like "damn, where is it?" So yeah, I didn't get punched but I got pinched like hell. I actually find it worse than punch at times. That's just me. In hindsight, it was pretty funny that we just laugh it off now. Then it hit me, this is some NS reference. So there you go. Sometimes, reality can be great assests for writing.

It probably went flying if you couldn't find it  . Sorry its just to god damn funny I'm still laughing can't stop 

 

Yeah pinches are bad especially by the nipples    my  ex ex girlfriend had the habit of doing that to me when I did or said something stupid and I tend to do that allot sometimes I'm still a kid in heart     . Either way you had it coming at least at the end you guys got a good laugh and a kick out of it  its an experience and a moment you will never forget   

 

Honest to god this was exactly an NS scenario the whole time while I was reading it I just pictured them and it fitted so much since yours dynamic was exactly the same   The fact that it was taken from reality and fitted so much was even more beautiful and fun to read   .

 

BTW 4life if you don't send this to Kishimoto I swear to GOD I WILL this just needs to happen Or maybe @LadyGT can make this come to life it would be a collaboration project between the two of you  your story her art/drawing  ahhh! its perfect I can already see it   .

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 18 August 2014 - 07:59 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

It probably went flying if you couldn't find it  . Sorry its just to god damn funny I'm still laughing can't stop 
 
Yeah pinches are bad especially by the nipples    my  ex ex girlfriend had the habit of doing that to me when I did or said something stupid and I tend to do that allot sometimes I'm still a kid in heart     . Either way you had it coming at least at the end you guys got a good laugh and a kick out of it  its an experience and a moment you will never forget   
 
Honest to god this was exactly an NS scenario the whole time while I was reading it I just pictured them and it fitted so much since yours dynamic was exactly the same   The fact that it was taken from reality and fitted so much was even more beautiful and fun to read   .
 
BTW 4life if you don't send this to Kishimoto I swear to GOD I WILL this just needs to happen Or maybe @LadyGT can make this come to life it would be a collaboration project between the two of you  your story her art/drawing  ahhh! its perfect I can already see it   .

That would be nice. I would like that actually. If I knew Kishi's mailbox, I would have send it. I mean I don't think he will write it, but I wouldn't mind acknowledgement. Ladygt can be communicated through social media, though she has a lot to work on her hand. It would be nice though. I guess that's why I wish I can draw.

[elmas]

Aw c'mon I think you're being a little harsh on Hinata. I wouldn't counter these arguments (if they're complete nonsense just ignore them though) with NS moments or the why-didn't-Kishi-do-this. This person is just misinterpreting what happened in the manga and downplaying Naruto and Sakura's/NS interactions.

No these are my normal opinions about her.I hate her character but there are Hinata fans here so I tried to be not rude.Sorry if I made it too harsh but those NH fans, I want to show them reality.They can ship any pairing but they are talking like they know everything or it's their manga.I just can't stand them.

Edited by elmas, 18 August 2014 - 08:09 PM.

[Sedna]

Wow, this thread is booming. I just went through 5 pages, jeez.

[FireFox]

That would be nice. I would like that actually. If I knew Kishi's mailbox, I would have send it. I mean I don't think he will write it, but I wouldn't mind acknowledgement. Ladygt can be communicated through social media, though she has a lot to work on her hand. It would be nice though. I guess that's why I wish I can draw.

Yeah even if you did knew his mailbox he probably wouldn't write it but yes it would be nice if you can get his opinion and acknowledgement though even that is a stretch since the men always speaks in riddles and barely reveals anything but none the less its a nice thought overall   .

 

I've heard something about that , that she's overbooked for the moment since she's going on some Sidney art convention or something like that though we are not in a hurry whenever she has the time would be nice of course if she's willing to .

 

Ah don't mention it I suck at drawing to I could never get the hang of it that's why I envy and admire to those who can   .    

[Elicit]

I don't get the A-NS argument, "Naruto only has a crush on Sakura because he only likes her because she wanted Sasuke's acknowledgement". How the hell does someone like someone just because that person wants another person to notice them? Even if it's their rival?

[Sedna]

Yeah it is. Just hope we could get more significant NS moments but doesn't look like that's gonna happen for a while.
When do you guys think the next NS moment will be?

I have a feeling we'll get a small moment in the next chapter. If not, maybe in the next 2-4 chapters we'll get a big NS moment.

[redrose3443]

@Naruko

 

1. He introduced Sakura as the girl he likes, Replied to Sai's question saying he couldn't confess his feelings, because he has not kept his promise, and finally he answered MInato's girlfriend question, which was meant for Sakura, as a yes. Hinata never even crossed his mind.

 

2. There's zero proof that he did change his feelings, in fact his interaction with Minato, proves he still has romantic feelings for Sakura.

 

Naruto has ever thought back to HInata's confession, nor has he even bothered to reply to her, when he's had plenty of time.

Hinata doesn't pay attention to anyone, that's not Naruto, unless Naruto is not around.

 

Of course Naruto was worried he hurt HInata, because she was the only one closes to him, when he went kyuubi mode. The fact that he mentioned the village, means that he was concerned for not just her safety, but everyone's. Meaning Hinata wasn't special, she was just closer to him, than others.

 

That person's comments prove she knows nothing about Naruto. Naruto also thanked Neji for being by his side, it was not all thanks to hinata, has praised Sakura on numerous occasions, and pays way more attention to Sakura than Hinata. Naruto has never thought of hinata, unless she was interacting with him somehow. After Hinata's big confession, Naruto was hugged by Sakura and seen hanging out with her. Where was Hinata exactly?

Did that person not read the second to last chapter, where Naruto was continuosly praising Sakura, even though he was fighting the strongest person in history? What about the fact that after 615, Hinata completely dropped off Naruto's radar?

 

Naruto has shown zero romantic feelings towards Hinata, yet has claimed to like/love Sakura several times, has asked her out on dates, and has praised her strength numerous times. Less than ten chapters of Naruto interacting with Hinata, ain't gonna compete with NaruSaku.

[Naruko]

" The only thing I hate about her is that she was always there worrying about Naruto, even when he was alone, but she didn't go there to make him company!!! I understand she is a lot shy and faints and stuff, but how could she let him suffer like he did whe he was younger? She liked him, knowing that before would change him and he wouldn't fall in love with Sakura, he was alone, and kept alone until Iruka and team 7 came. When Hinata started to show some care for Naruto, Sakura was already there by his side. She lost her chance. Too late to confess now. "

 

"There being or not KAGES, Sakura was the one to care for Naruto's dream. And I do believe he will achieve this dream, he has been talking about this the whole series! Hinata talked directly to Naruto because that was the development of her character, being able to motivate the guy she has been admiring her whole life, I'm sure she's already happy that she helped him. Sakura, on the other hand, explained Naruto's feelings to everyone because she understands him better than anyone there, she knows that people are important to him and she wanted them to know about that too. Hinata's love, until Kishi undo its previous situation, is still unrequited. When Naruto was told people on the genjutsu were becoming zetsus, he worried about everyone equally, he didn't even think "Hinata!" or "Oh no! I can't let Hinata become a zetsu!". She's not more than some others like Shikamaru, Ino, Choji, Kiba, Lee... Gaara! Gaara is probably more to him than Hinata is. "

 

These are some of the things I said that he didn't counter... I hate that they choose what to reply and what not to. 

[KnS]

Listen guys.... 

 

You're NOT supposed to be bringing posts or comments from somewhere else -- especially without the OP's permission -- posting them here, and inviting comments or asking for rebuttal help.  

 

Multiple requests have now been made for this stuff to stop.  It's inappropriate and encourages bashing.

[Hiraishin]

I don't get the A-NS argument, "Naruto only has a crush on Sakura because he only likes her because she wanted Sasuke's acknowledgement". How the hell does someone like someone just because that person wants another person to notice them? Even if it's their rival?

Yeah it makes no sense. It's like they take an NS argument (Naruto realised he liked Sakura because she wanted acknowledgment too - actually that's not an argument, it's fact) and try to twist it in their favour. Obviously he never just liked her for that. And then they say, "Since Naruto liked Sakura for her desire for acknowledgement he'll like Hinata, because she wanted acknowledgement too." As if the only reason Naruto ever liked Sakura was cause of that. and I don't think it was ever said (at least not directly) that Hinata wanted acknowledgement? There was that whole thing with her father, but.. idk.

[elmas]

I just want a Sakura moment.To be honest I don't care if there's no NS moment.I just want A BADASS SAKURA-CHAN.Kakashi had a power up and there's recovered Sakura again.Hope she will show her awesomeness again.

[Change]

I don't get the A-NS argument, "Naruto only has a crush on Sakura because he only likes her because she wanted Sasuke's acknowledgement". How the hell does someone like someone just because that person wants another person to notice them? Even if it's their rival?

See you're wasting your time in NF