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#27781 FireFox

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 03:56 PM

As a NS shipper who doesn't ship SK, having people say SK parallels NS is an insult. I'm sure there are many people in this site who feels the same. It's as annoying as much as NH fans saying that Minato=Hinata. For NH fans, it might be legit assumption, but for me it's insulting. Same with this SK=NS parallel thing. You have every right to express what you think though.

Karin acting like a dog in heat right after the murder attempt=Karin not taking kitten from Sasuke? Really? If anyone is accepting of Sasuke's kitten, it's Karin.

You could say it parallels it by saying how dark , total opposite and awful it is compared to NS   :zaru:   .

Either way why are you guys arguing about kitten parings :facepalm: . 

 

Lol that works too. I think if we were to play, she will literally kick my ass all night. She hates horror and she's not having it. Funny, because she was going to help me until I told her the story background and she just fade away.

Wow your lady is quite the Sakura Chan you're a lucky guy :D . And you better no t piss her of  :lol:

 

Exactly!Sakura looks so beautiful in that kimono. :wub:

They are both gorgeous  :wibble: this one of my favorite fillers it might be No 1 for me :wub: .  


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Posted 18 August 2014 - 03:59 PM

Yes.

Maybe she was. Who knows?

 

She had pink hair I believe, it wasn't shaded in like Karin or Kushina's

She is like that

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 04:01 PM

Kishi has used parallels with SK and NS before actually two pretty recently.
 
Also you know that moment isn't what I was referring to, actually in a way it still backs up my argument because she was planning on flanking him for what he did but her mood changed because well....she's crazy this more or less falls into the "them not being mentally stable" scenario. When I was saying not taking any kitten from Sasuke I was referring to her debut all the way through the Hebi arc where she continuously nagged at him and bit his head off every-time he said something she disagreed with, something that is unlike any other relationship we've seen Sasuke have with any female character especially

I don't see this parallel people are forcing. NS and SK don't share the same kind of background, same interactions, and the counterparts of each paring have nothing similar. (If anything SS is a LOT more similar to SK. Similar interactions, similar events and background.)

In part one, Sakura stood up to Sasuke too, especially in the Chuunin exams. Both girls both stood up to the guys when they were his teammates. Sakura got angry towards Sasuke in part two as well during the Kage summit. Acknowledging one but disregarding the other is a double standard I see frequently in SK arguments.

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 04:03 PM

As a NS shipper who doesn't ship SK, having people say SK parallels NS is an insult. I'm sure there are many people in this site who feels the same. It's as annoying as much as NH fans saying that Minato=Hinata. For NH fans, it might be legit assumption, but for me it's insulting. Same with this SK=NS parallel thing. I don't mind people shipping SK. The only thing I have a problem is when people force parallelism and make their pairing seem legit, while downgrading the other. It's what I see with this NH=MK and SK=NS arguments. I'm not trying to force you to think in my way though. I'm just expressing what I and the others honestly feel with these kinds of arguments.

Karin acting like a dog in heat right after the murder attempt=Karin not taking kitten from Sasuke? Really? If anyone is accepting of Sasuke's kitten, it's Karin.

100% agreed. I always get annoyed when people say Karin doesn't take kitten from Sasuke while Sakura does. Sakura has called out Sasuke on his kitten on a few occasions. In the Fod she lectured him and called him a coward and in the LoI she defended Naruto from Sasuke.

 

SK is all fun and games until a Chidori runs through her chest to get to the enemy.


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Posted 18 August 2014 - 04:06 PM

I don't see this parallel people are forcing. NS and SK don't share the same kind of background, same interactions, and the counterparts of each paring have nothing similar. (If anything SS is a LOT more similar to SK. Similar interactions, similar events and background.)

In part one, Sakura stood up to Sasuke too, especially is the Chuunin exams. The both girls both stood up to the guys when they were his teammates. Acknowledging one but disregarding the other is a double standard I see frequently in SK arguments.

Well ofcourse SS resembles SK more considering that Sasuke is in both ships and Karin acts liek Part 1 Sakura doesn't mean it doesn't parallel NS in some ways, nor did it really stop Kishi from making the parallels twice in the war.

 

When did this happen? The closest I can recall this happening is when she thought Orochimaru was going to kill them, she really didn't stand up to Sasuke because he wasn't doing or saying anything for her to stand-up to. Even then Naruto had to be injured for the tensions to be high enough for this to happen. 


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Posted 18 August 2014 - 04:06 PM

 
Wow your lady is quite the Sakura Chan you're a lucky guy :D . And you better no t piss her of  :lol:
 

I try not to. Sadly, falling asleep is my current weakness, so everytime I wake up. She leaves messages that she will "keel" me. Yes, that's how she wrote it.

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 04:08 PM

They are both gorgeous  :wibble: this one of my favorite fillers it might be No 1 for me :wub: .  

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 04:08 PM

I try not to. Sadly, falling asleep is my current weakness, so everytime I wake up. She leaves messages that she will "keel" me. Yes, that's how she wrote it.

that's adorably frightening 


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Posted 18 August 2014 - 04:08 PM

Maybe she was. Who knows?

 

She is like that

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SP changed her hair to red, it is officially pink though

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 04:09 PM

Well ofcourse SS resembles SK more considering that Sasuke is in both ships and Karin acts liek Part 1 Sakura doesn't mean it doesn't parallel NS in some ways, nor did it really stop Kishi from making the parallels twice in the war.
 
When did this happen? The closest I can recall this happening is when she thought Orochimaru was going to kill them, she really didn't stand up to Sasuke because he wasn't doing or saying anything for her to stand-up to. Even then Naruto had to be injured for the tensions to be high enough for this to happen.

As I said, I don't see the parallels you are forcing me to see. "Kishi made the parallel twice?" No, I don't see it. Repeating multiple times doesn't automatically make the statement true.

She told Sasuke to man up when he couldn't fight against Orochimaru, she told Sasuke that she's going to shout and inform the people if he leaves the village, she got mad at Sasuke for bad mouthing Naruto.

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 04:12 PM

SP changed her hair to red, it is officially pink though

Sasuke may end up alone really

I just found an image for her I know her hair is pink but I don't care actually. I always thought she's not releated to Uzumaki clan.


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Posted 18 August 2014 - 04:13 PM

She told Sasuke to man up when he couldn't fight against Orochimaru, she told Sasuke that she's going to shout and inform the people if he leaves the village, she got mad at Sasuke for bad mouthing Naruto.

1. This was to get him to fight because they would be killed otherwise

 

2. She's not really standing up to him, just making a desperate attempt to get him to stay.

 

3. Yes that's because he was insulting Naruto, calling him an outsider despite everything he was trying to do for him. 


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Posted 18 August 2014 - 04:14 PM

1. This was to get him to fight because they would be killed otherwise
 
2. She's not really standing up to him, just making a desperate attempt to get him to stay.
 
3. Yes that's because he was insulting Naruto, calling him an outsider despite everything he was trying to do for him.

Your statement 1, 2, 3 doesn't really refute the fact that she did stand up to him. You just stated the reasons she stood up to him.

Now it's your turn to provide me with moments where Karin "constantly" stood up to Sasuke.

P.S. Btw, I'm going to sleep. If you want to continue with this you can send me a message.

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 04:17 PM

I just found an image for her I know her hair is pink but I don't care actually. I always thought she's not releated to Uzumaki clan.

She's not

Not every read head is an uzumaki for that matter

Look at Gaara and Sasori 


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Posted 18 August 2014 - 04:18 PM

Your statement 1, 2, 3 doesn't really refute the fact that she did stand up to him. You just stated the reasons she stood up to him.

They do, reasons matter. All of those were high tension filled situations where speaking her mind was the only thing she was left to do.  Where as Karin constantly does so without really caring what Sasuke thinks of her opinion. If anything her relationship with him is closer to SN. 

 

 

She's not

Not every read head is an uzumaki for that matter

Look at Gaara and Sasori 

 

Gaara is brown hair in the manga I believe and Tayuya has pink hair like Sakura. 


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Posted 18 August 2014 - 04:20 PM

They do, reasons matter. All of those were high tension filled situations where speaking her mind was the only thing she was left to do.  Where as Karin constantly does so without really caring what Sasuke thinks of her opinion. If anything her relationship with him is closer to SN. 

Huh? If you're going to make excuses I'll do exactly the same with you.

"Karin wasn't really standing up to Sasuke because all those times she disagreed with him were to hide her interest in him acting like a tsundere." The end.

You can try to sugarcoat and make SK look fancy all you want while trying to make similar SS interactions as negative as possible. But if you're going pull that double standard kitten I'll do the same.

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 04:22 PM


 

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Uh no I hate those words bc they are so untrue bc she never really did smile to Sasuke she was always fangirling  the best smile Sakura has is the unique one she gives only to Naruto like this .

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I try not to. Sadly, falling asleep is my current weakness, so everytime I wake up. She leaves messages that she will "keel" me. Yes, that's how she wrote it.

LOL and Awww That's so cute , but you better take her out to dinner or something like that or you are death meat  :lol:


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Posted 18 August 2014 - 04:23 PM

that's adorably frightening 

Lol. Story of my life.

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Posted 18 August 2014 - 04:24 PM

Huh? If you're going to make excuses I'll do exactly the same with you.

"Karin wasn't really standing up to Sasuke because all those times she disagreed with him were to hide her interest in him acting like a tsundere." The end.

Even if you do think I'm making an excuse the difference between ours is that mine doesn't draw any from assumptions or in this case a mockery of the point I'm trying to get across to make my argument seem less credible. 


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Posted 18 August 2014 - 04:26 PM

Even if you do think I'm making an excuse the difference between ours is that mine doesn't draw any from assumptions or in this case a mockery of the point I'm trying to get across to make my argument seem less credible.

I'm not trying to mock you either nor is my statement above based on assumption. If you're using a typical method to argue, I'll do the same. If you're making a ridiculous statement, I'll do the same. Nothing more, nothing less. That is what I've been saying.

Your previous argument was bad. I gave moments where Sakura stood up to Sasuke and you replied that they don't count as "speaking up" because she had reasons to speak up. What the hell kind of a logic is that? With your logic, Naruto fighting against Pein doesn't count because he had to protect the village. See how that logic works? Just because Sakura had reasons to speak up, it doesn't change the fact that she did speak up to Sasuke. That's why I added the above statement using YOUR logic to prove that Karin wasn't really speaking out to Sasuke. I was trying to point out your double standard.

Now that I explained myself stop accusing me as if I'm personally attacking you. Thank you.

Now I'm going to sleep, if you want to continue feel free to message me.

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