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#2761 Nar123

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Posted 26 April 2015 - 11:37 PM

Naruto should've ended like that OVA, Sasuke leaving Konoha & Sakura crying over Naruto. Would've been so much more mature and poignant that way.

 

It's sad when an OVA makes more sense than the actual canon work


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Posted 27 April 2015 - 12:02 AM

Naruto is dramatical shonen battle manga.
There are drama in part 1, but part 2 take it to another level.
To the point it made the battle uninteresting anymore.

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Did kishi have an input in that ova? I know it just for commercial, advertising Japanese t shirt.
If yes, than clearly it's a red herring.

Edited by rocci, 27 April 2015 - 12:05 AM.


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Posted 27 April 2015 - 12:06 AM

 

So very late to the party today, apologies, work held me up  :sweatdrop:

 

Anyways, I agree with what's been said here about these pictures, especially the distance with Naruto and Hinata as well as Sasuke and Sakura, what's that about?

 

I instantly thought of the stark contrast in this pic from the creators of Last Airbender

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Quite a difference. (o hai toph  :lol:  )

 

Plus, where's Naruto's signature grin he's supposed to have?

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What happened to this dude?

 

On another note, I can't get over how much I'm starting to dislike Bolt's character. This picture as well as the recent chapter just makes him out to be an annoying brat. Sure he acts like Naruto, but that was somewhat endearing since Naruto was actually an underdog character. There really isn't any point in making the same character over again.

 

In retrospective, it's actually something I can praise DBZ for now. It was actually a good thing to not make Gohan a carbon copy of Goku when he could have easily been.

 

Yup, that is a true family photo right there. Happy.

 

What happened to Naruto? Corporate greed happened to Naruto. A need to continue the story with a large fanbase. I mean if they come out with a part 3...How better would it have been for the story to loose its entire NH and SS fanbase? They simply took a calculation and decided on it. If this is true, then Hinata will hardly appear throughout this 10 chapters.

 

But there is no doubt...this story has lost its popularity.

 

 

As for family photos, here is one, which in my opinion is the crowning jewel of Happy Endings.

 

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Look at Ed and his son having such dorky smiles.

 

Look at Winry and her adorable little girl...with pigtails...Ohhhh so cuuuute. :wibble:


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Posted 27 April 2015 - 12:07 AM

Naruto is dramatical shonen battle manga.
There are drama in part 1, but part 2 take it to another level.
To the point it made the battle uninteresting anymore.

Exactly. Part 1 was balanced. Part 2 started off a little shaky with more percent to drama, but it was still enjoyable. Then, drama took the priority and that would mean anything goes in and many bad ones did. Some can be saved but never did.. Remember what I was telling you about Vince Russo. After Yahagi left, that's when his writing finally shown.

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Posted 27 April 2015 - 12:14 AM

Exactly. Part 1 was balanced. Part 2 started off a little shaky with more percent to drama, but it was still enjoyable. Then, drama took the priority and that would mean anything goes in and many bad ones did. Some can be saved but never did.. Remember what I was telling you about Vince Russo. After Yahagi left, that's when his writing finally shown.

Yahagi left when sasuke awaken ms.
In pein arc, pein change his plan when he collect the bijuu.
Before pein, to control market war.
In pein, to create wmd to insist fear so peace could achive.

Did yahagi come with that idea? Or did yahagi the one who drop the plot? Remember that peace and chosen one theme get mention first time in jiraiya vs pein arc.

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Posted 27 April 2015 - 12:21 AM

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Posted 27 April 2015 - 12:24 AM

Not only were we proven right that SS is garbage, but we were also proven right that this ending was NOT planned since Karin was not created when Kishimoto first started the manga. She was based off Sakura. Do NH/SS/Kishimoto/SP honestly expect us to believe that all this drama was "planned since the beginning"? LOL XD

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Posted 27 April 2015 - 12:24 AM

Hilarious how SS fans are trying to completely deny canon, saying this part of the series doesn't exist, that it's OOC.
Karma is such an awesome b*tch.

 

kmfllll I need to see this myself!


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Posted 27 April 2015 - 12:26 AM

Yahagi left when sasuke awaken ms.
In pein arc, pein change his plan when he collect the bijuu.
Before pein, to control market war.
In pein, to create wmd to insist fear so peace could achive.

Did yahagi come with that idea? Or did yahagi the one who drop the plot? Remember that peace and chosen one theme get mention first time in jiraiya vs pein arc.

It could be him. Could be. But Kishi took it to the heart by making him the reincarnation.

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Posted 27 April 2015 - 12:28 AM

is it bad that i have no remorse for the SS fandom at all and if things go worse for SS im gonna literally have the best laugh of my life?


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#2771 Aizen-Sama

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Posted 27 April 2015 - 12:30 AM

is it bad that i have no remorse for the SS fandom at all and if things go worse for SS im gonna literally have the best laugh of my life?


No it's not bad it's called sweet delicious revenge. :) SS fandom finally knows how NS feels. XD

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Posted 27 April 2015 - 12:30 AM

 

Yup, that is a true family photo right there. Happy.

 

What happened to Naruto? Corporate greed happened to Naruto. A need to continue the story with a large fanbase. I mean if they come out with a part 3...How better would it have been for the story to loose its entire NH and SS fanbase? They simply took a calculation and decided on it. If this is true, then Hinata will hardly appear throughout this 10 chapters.

 

But there is no doubt...this story has lost its popularity.

 

 

As for family photos, here is one, which in my opinion is the crowning jewel of Happy Endings.

 

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Look at Ed and his son having such dorky smiles.

 

Look at Winry and her adorable little girl...with pigtails...Ohhhh so cuuuute. :wibble:

 

Right - that pic of the FMA epilogue is a perfect example of a happy family photo without them being arm-in-arm. 

 

Two things: First, Ed's giant happy smile, happier than we see him most times in the series. (Compare that with the lack of giant smile on Naruto in the NH photo). And second, Winry's separate from Ed, but she's turned to him and away from the audience. The message is that Ed and her kids are her focus. (Compare that distancing body language from the SS photo.)



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Posted 27 April 2015 - 12:36 AM

 
Right - that pic of the FMA epilogue is a perfect example of a happy family photo without them being arm-in-arm. 
 
Two things: First, Ed's giant happy smile, happier than we see him most times in the series. (Compare that with the lack of giant smile on Naruto in the NH photo). And second, Winry's separate from Ed, but she's turned to him and away from the audience. The message is that Ed and her kids are her focus. (Compare that distancing body language from the SS photo.)


Everytime I see pics of NH family Naruto is looking stiff and weird. He doesn't have that natural playful smile he's got around Sakura and co.
Sasuke looks the same, which is to say completely disinterested in Sakura and the others lol.

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Posted 27 April 2015 - 12:37 AM

I can't help it. I get annoyed when I see different standards applied to characters. Why do we destroy Naruto for loving Sakura because of a rivalry but give her a pass for doing the same thing?

Why? because number one Sakura didn't pretend to have feelings for someone while secretly trying to cause a rift, get in-between or make trouble for said person out of RIVALRY. She did not misrepresent herself, she did NOT FOOL EVERYONE around her just to cause jealousy or one up her rival. 

Different standards? no there are no different standards, Naruto is just a lying a**hole who convinced everyone around him that his feelings were GENUINE and that he was suffering because Sakura didn't love him back. In the meantime she comes off as the villain and he comes off as the poor kicked puppy when in fact its the other way around.

I don't understand why you seem to think they're on the same ground but no mater how you try to spin it, The canon Naruto is a lying hypocritical POS that stood on a false moral high-ground the entire story. 

Sakura on the other hand is his victim as much as she is the fandom and kishi's punching bag. 

Its disgusting. Its literally disgusting that not a single kittening person in her life, From
Tsunade to Kakashi, Sai, Shizune, her parents, Ino or even Naruto whether Naruto was her "Friend" prospective love interest, cared enough about her to give her the slap in the face she needed to wake up and save herself. 

But of course she can't be saved from this fate, because Kishimoto won't allow it, nor will he allow her to escape in death. 




 


Edited by Tsuki Hoshino, 27 April 2015 - 12:41 AM.

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Posted 27 April 2015 - 12:43 AM

NaruSaku will always be the one. kitten the haters.

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Posted 27 April 2015 - 12:43 AM

Why? because number one Sakura didn't pretend to have feelings for someone while secretly trying to cause a rift, get in-between or make trouble for said person out of RIVALRY. She did not misrepresent herself, she did NOT FOOL EVERYONE around her just to cause jealousy or one up her rival. 
Different standards? no there are no different standards, Naruto is just a lying a**hole who convinced everyone around him that his feeling were GENUINE and that he was suffering because Sakura didn't love him back. In the meantime she comes off as the villian and he comes off as the poor kicked puppy when in fact its the other way around.
I don't understand why you seem to think they're on the same ground but no mater how you try to spin it, The canon Naruto is a lying hypocritical POS that stood on a false moral high-ground the entire story. 
Sakura on the other hand is his victim as much as she is the fandom and kishi's punching bag. 

Its digusting.

Literally everything you said applies to Sakura. Her love started the same way. If you accept that Naruto never loved Sakura, then you must also face the actual canon fact, that is established in the manga itself, that Sakura's "love" for Sasuke is based off of her desire to beat Ino. In the same way that you call Naruto a lying kitten, Sakura is the same for the exact same reason. Even here you rabidly defend Sakura for not ever loving Sasuke but preaching to the world that she did, just as you crush Naruto for the exact same thing. The double standard is obvious and ridiculous. Sakura should be held to the same standards about Naruto, because the nature of their apparent "love" is the exact same. We're raising legitimate points about Sakura, yet you act like we're giving her the 3rd degree over the size of her breasts or something of equal nature. It's ridiculous.

Edited by AHK, 27 April 2015 - 12:46 AM.

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Posted 27 April 2015 - 12:44 AM

You know the weird thing is that because of NH, we got Bolt/Boruto in which many have said it's a dumb name. Isn't that funny.

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Posted 27 April 2015 - 12:52 AM

Literally everything you said applies to Sakura. Her love started the same way. If you accept that Naruto never loved Sakura, then you must also face the actual canon fact, that is established in the manga itself, that Sakura's "love" for Sasuke is based off of her desire to beat Ino. In the same way that you call Naruto a lying a**hole, Sakura is the same for the exact same reason. Even here you rabidly defend Sakura for not ever loving Sasuke but preaching to the world that she did, just as you crush Naruto for the exact same thing. The double standard is obvious and ridiculous.


Sakura didn't have a crush on Sasuke because she wanted to "beat" Ino, she liked him because he was "cool" and "hot". She didn't even KNOW Ino liked Sasuke! Yes, Sasuke did up their rivalry but Sakura's rivalry with Ino was not the reason why she loved Sasuke.

Edited by Aizen-Sama, 27 April 2015 - 12:53 AM.


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Posted 27 April 2015 - 12:53 AM

No it's not bad it's called sweet delicious revenge. :) SS fandom finally knows how NS feels. XD

 

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Posted 27 April 2015 - 12:55 AM

Sakura didn't have a crush on Sasuke because she wanted to "beat" Ino, she liked him because he was "cool" and "hot". She didn't even KNOW Ino liked Sasuke! Yes, Sasuke did up their rivalry but Sakura's rivalry with Ino was not the reason why she loved Sasuke.

  
Sakura's primary motivation for gaining Sasuke's affection was to beat Ino.

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