too these guys its not a lot of effort.
No, and I agree. But what I said was: "I never said they are 100% real. I just think it's likely but they could absolutely be fake. And if they are fake there would be a lot of effort invested to pull this off and draw so many pictures just to troll people. If you don't agree that's cool. Just my opinion."
Whatever, it doesn't really matter. No reason to argue about. I just think it's important to look all possibilities. Fake? Could be. Real? Possible too.

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#2761
Posted 05 November 2014 - 07:50 AM
#2762
Posted 05 November 2014 - 07:50 AM
Yeah, exactly how I am feeling now thanks in part to you, Queen. :)
If we had something in mind for it all, why wouldn't it be more focused and displayed in new trailers?
Yeah, some things simply don't add up. I'm doubting more and more that they're real, but, even if they are, there's definitely something that we're missing there.
I'll always be there to catch you when you fall.
#2763
Posted 05 November 2014 - 07:52 AM
Never would I have imagined, to get so many slaps in the faces towards the end of the manga. Hinata-centric advertisement, NaruHina kids along with several other unidentified girls, the album cover, the f*ucking scarf and the f*ucking childhood memory filler in the movie, the foarhead poke from Sasuke (I believe it's him, doesn't make sense in any other context)... But I've come to a point that I will just believe in NaruSaku. Specific scenes b/w them such as the bench scene and the POAL HAVE to be addressed again, otherwise Kishi failed ending the manga conclusively in my eyes. But nonetheless, will I continue to love the ship. I WILL NEVER EVER SEE NARUTO AND AND HINATA WORKING TOGETHER AS A COUPLE.
It seems that Kishimoto decided to dump on all NS development. I feel like a cheated wife now.
I'll wait for the Thursday chapter of course... just to be sure never to read another of his work in the furure.
#2764
Posted 05 November 2014 - 07:52 AM
too these guys its not a lot of effort.
Yeah, could be. I don't know. We disagree on that point I guess and that's okay. I would just appreciate it if you don't tell me to get out just because I have a different opinion.
#2765
Posted 05 November 2014 - 07:53 AM
Thanks for being a voice of reason.
I guess people are a bit tense and stressed about this. It's important to keep in mind, like you said, that in the end we're all in the same boat here.
It's really impossible to say what Evil was hinting at. You can interpret it in many ways.
My first (and it's the most obvious, I think) impression was NH. But if I think longer about it and hear other members impression/ideas... NS becomes more likely to me.
Depends on how sneaky that Evil is. Does she like to troll? Because if it turns out to be NS after all, people will feel VERY trolled. I mean 4chan and NF are already celebrating NH like it's 100% confirmed.
Rereading at the pic :
to me it looks like Narutos + sun (Hyuuga) = Sunflowers (?) + Screws (Neji)
Oh well...
I wasn't that involved, but why Kishi, why ?
You could at least have given NH some sort of building up in the manga instead of shooting them again and again... And making it a running joke.
Edited by abloublou, 05 November 2014 - 07:53 AM.
#2766
Posted 05 November 2014 - 07:54 AM
It seems that Kishimoto decided to dump on all NS development.
I feel like a cheated wife now.
I'll wait for the Thursday chapter of course... just to be sure never to read another of his work in the furure.
Our horrible shipping luck killed NS. All I can do is hug you.
Good thing I'm accustomed to ship sinking.
Still it doesn't make sense from a story telling POV..
It doesn't.
Edited by abloublou, 05 November 2014 - 07:55 AM.
#2767
Posted 05 November 2014 - 07:54 AM
I'm not saying the pictures ARE fake, (I'm trying not to get my hopes up. Already had to deal with thinking it was all over once today) but I just thought I'd point out:
-NH kids both have whiskers, neither have the Byakugan, a dominant trait.
-NH kids are shown older than Kurenai's kid. (only explanation would be a timeskip within a timeskip).
-The only designs of people they showed are Temari (who looks kinda wierd in their art), and then Iruka and the 2 Chuunin, who are basically drawn as Kakashi's body with their faces on it.
-They conveniently didn't show any new people who haven't had their disigns released yet (Tsunade, Shizune, Yamato, Kankuro, ect.) and (this parts important) they specifically changed Sakura's clothes to not show her necklace, even though that's the only outfit she wears that shows the necklace. If they're fake, this is obviously because they don't know these people's designs or what Sakura's necklace is.
-These also just happened to come out right around the same time Evil started her "spoilers". Not days ago, not tomorrow, but at the same time. She also just happened to not mention any pairing related things last night, before these came out. (Her recent post with Iruka, Choji, and the butterfly kinda make it seem like she's trolling anyway.).
-Then there's also the fact that this movie is only 110 minutes long. We already have the plot of Toneri kidnapping Hanabi and Hinata, wanting to destroy the world, and the moon falling. Not to mention the crappy scarf side plot with flashbacks. Where in the world does: (Blue Bijuu mode Toneri, Toneri covered in bubbles with eyes all over him, random crab and bird monsters, and then ANOTHER Timeskip after showing people with kids, after they probably already had their new designs shown in the beginning, plus the introduction of their kids) possibly fit in the movie? This movie is what happens between Naruto vs Sasuke and the epilogue of the manga. Theirs not reason to have the epilogue in the movie too.
I'm not saying we should ignore all of this and go back to thinking the way we were before, (as the odds now seem against us and we shouldn't get our hopes back up just to have them crushed a second time) but it is possible all of this is fake/trolling, in which case it's not over yet and we should wait for the chapter.
Edited by NarutoFan0304, 05 November 2014 - 07:57 AM.
#2768
Posted 05 November 2014 - 07:56 AM
At least there won't be SS. If anything, I'll be free to ship Sakura with some nice shinobi.
#2769
Posted 05 November 2014 - 07:58 AM
- (this parts important) they specifically changed Sakura's clothes to not show her necklace, even though that's the only outfit she wears that shows the necklace. If they're fake, this is obviously because they don't know these people's designs or what Sakura's necklace is.
Man, I didn't notice that. Good point.
#2770
Posted 05 November 2014 - 08:00 AM
At least there won't be SS. If anything, I'll be free to ship Sakura with some nice shinobi.
Don't feel bad, adult Naruto is not that great anyway.
I feel cheated because I though my Hinata deserved better.
I wonder why Kishi changed his mind at the last minute though ? Editors pressure ?
#2771
Posted 05 November 2014 - 08:00 AM
Guys WTF has happened what is this NH SS confirmed and have kids WTH can someone fill me in on what Evil posted DAFUQ KISHU HAS DONE IF THIS TRUE

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#2772
Posted 05 November 2014 - 08:00 AM
Our horrible shipping luck killed NS.
All I can do is hug you.
Good thing I'm accustomed to ship sinking.
Still it doesn't make sense from a story telling POV..
It doesn't.
It doesn't. That is why Kishimoto's name will be included in my personal black list of authors if this madness is real.
#2773
Posted 05 November 2014 - 08:01 AM
Guys WTF has happened what is this NH SS confirmed and have kids WTH can someone fill me in on what Evil posted DAFUQ KISHU HAS DONE IF THIS TRUE
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SK not SS.
#2774
Posted 05 November 2014 - 08:01 AM
Guys WTF has happened what is this NH SS confirmed and have kids WTH can someone fill me in on what Evil posted DAFUQ KISHU HAS DONE IF THIS TRUE
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Read this post: http://www.narusaku....144#entry635682
Oh, also Evil had posted two or three more clues I think. But they didn't seem NS related. They were about Ino, Lee, Iruka and Choji?
I don't even know. They were really vague and no one seemed to know what the hell she was implying.
Edited by Mishamisha, 05 November 2014 - 08:03 AM.
#2775
Posted 05 November 2014 - 08:02 AM
It seems that Kishimoto decided to dump on all NS development.
I feel like a cheated wife now.
I'll wait for the Thursday chapter of course... just to be sure never to read another of his work in the furure.
No way. No sane author gives us parallel after parallel and development after development, only to toss it all away at the last minute. This is the guy that gave us Road to Ninja, a movie crammed pack full of NaruSaku goodness. We have to look at it from another angle. We have to look underneatht he underneath. As in, how can NaruSaku still happen despite those pics (which I believe are 100% real). The answer is genjutsu. We may see Naruto and Hinata's kids in the film, but doesn't mean they end up having kids. Now if it turns out Kishi is insane, that's another story, but for now, I still see a glimmer of hope.
Edited by ThroughWithLove, 05 November 2014 - 08:03 AM.
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#2776
Posted 05 November 2014 - 08:03 AM
It doesn't. That is why Kishimoto's name will be included in my personal black list of authors if this madness is real.
He would deserve it.
>make zero efforts to develop NH or let them interact
>have Naruto acst like an oblivious douche to Hinata
>Give NS all the parallels and MinaKushi blessing
Nope, it's gonna be NH.
And he added equally awful SK to make it even worse. Because stabbing is love...
#2777
Posted 05 November 2014 - 08:03 AM
Don't feel bad, adult Naruto is not that great anyway.
I feel cheated because I though my Hinata deserved better.
I wonder why Kishi changed his mind at the last minute though ? Editors pressure ?
Whatever it was if this is true, I won't forgive him. I really, really trusted that men, and a part of me still does until the final chapter is out. All this development and foreshadowing just to give a non logical pair in the end? Are we to take Jiraiyas words for nothing then?
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#2778
Posted 05 November 2014 - 08:04 AM
May I please be very very evil for just a moment? Because, if all this kitten is legit, then we are dealing with a pretty big epic fail. Here are just a few reflection on my part (the hell I should be studying for my midterm, it's just in a few hours.Argh) number 1: We know that Naruto doesn't give up, but if he were to give up on Sakura
(and imo, after all this development it would be pretty pathetic for the author to do just that) then he should have, at least, the courtesy to let the readers understand how, when, where and why he decided to do so (and you don't tell your zombie daddy that a girl is your girlfriend if she isn't the one you really want to end up with). An out of the blue 'I'm not in love with Sakura-chan anymore' doesn't seem possible (unless it's really bad writing, and Kishi is, I hope, better than that). Point number 2: if, NH was to be the legitimate canon pairing, he developed it so badly it is almost a joke. She's almost never relevant, and she should have been if she is to become Nardo-kuuun's waifu (
).
I'm saying this with all my intellectual honesty, if this is the direction Kishi wanted to take, he took it spectacularly wrong. Still I have faith in him, he's a good storyteller (I hope).
Last but not least, I'll still be shipping NaruSaku tomorrow, no matter what, and canon or not, their interactions are by far superior to NH ones.
Group hug people,
Edit: Sakura, ditch Konoha, go to Westeros, and take the Iron Throne...
Edited by Lady Lys, 05 November 2014 - 08:06 AM.
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But they were all of them deceived, for another canon was made. In the land of Japan, in the fires of Studio Pierrot, the dark Lord Kishimoto forged in secret a master canon, to control all others, and into this canon, he poured his cruelty, his malice, and his will to dominate all life. One canon to rule them all.
#2779
Posted 05 November 2014 - 08:06 AM
No way. No sane author gives us parallel after parallel and development after development, only to toss it all away at the last minute. This is the guy that gave us Road to Ninja, a movie crammed pack full of NaruSaku goodness. We have to look at it from another angle. We have to look underneatht he underneath. As in, how can NaruSaku still happen despite those pics (which I believe are 100% real). The answer is genjutsu. We may see Naruto and Hinata's kids in the film, but doesn't mean they end up having kids. Now if it turns out Kishi is insane, that's another story, but for now, I still see a glimmer of hope.
I really hope you're right, it seems like most stuff is pointing towards NH, but I still haven't lost my hope yet... after all the development and parallels it wouldn't make sense for the pairings to turn out like this : / Why would he even confirm Sakura = Kushina recently through nobody less than Kushina's husband himself if NS wasn't meant to be in the first place... this is so confusing
Edited by Yui, 05 November 2014 - 08:06 AM.
#2780
Posted 05 November 2014 - 08:06 AM
Don't feel bad, adult Naruto is not that great anyway.
I feel cheated because I though my Hinata deserved better.
I wonder why Kishi changed his mind at the last minute though ? Editors pressure ?
Maybe editors. Maybe an author's whim... He may have wanted to be "original" and breathe life into a dead unicorn. I hate Kishimoto because now I can't look at Naruto the same way I looked at him all these years. Twenty four hours to endure and see the truth with my own eyes. Then I'll forget this manga like a nightmare.
Edited by Syn11, 05 November 2014 - 08:10 AM.
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