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[Chatte]

That's what people keep saying in here. Toriko started out as a manga with huge potential to becoming a new "Big Three" Manga in 2008. But then the anime came out and people bashed it like crazy. Nana voiced apparently a non-cannon character named Froeze? The anime is now on hiatus and the sales of the Manga have dropped immensely.

I haven't read the manga or seen the anime, so I'm just listing what other fans are saying.

Oh, I see! Well, Naruto is no longer in the top 3 either so...

 

 

The name is Tina. A character that appeared in the anime and never in the manga (except for a cameo).

They also put her in the crossover episode with one piece and dragon ball.

So Nana Mizuki is nothing more than series destroyer... LOL!

Edited by Chatte, 11 December 2014 - 09:32 AM.

[Khaleesi]

Heh, thanks! I am curious on why you say distant though? Distant generally or? I am trying to figure if this distance you say about comes from me being highly disappointed in this crappy ending.

No, distant when talking with anyone. You probably won't like my analyzis because i'm blunt, sometimes I don't identify when I'm being rude and my wording feels personal. 

You could say that you include words of endearment but it's like your thing, not something I will feel emotionally touched by it, but expected. As if you were selling me something. That's why I said distant. You are assertive.

By your kind of wording and a bit of observing I infer you are selfish (this doesn't have to do with empathy) and arrogant, but not something you will like to admit. Those are something that I am too, but, in my case, I don't actually see it as a negative thing. Probably because I like my ""flaws"" too. By experience, I can say that you are not agressive, but you are fierce, don't like to lose and a fighter. Also, you are a detallist and generator of ideas. You follow a logical line, based on concrete facts, but you complete the idea with abstract thoughts. Sometimes you can get lost in those abstract thoughts. What seems logically fit in the reality, for more percentage of probabilities it has, it doesn't mean it will be the correct answer, but with experience in this field, one can become a well-rounded person on it. This kind of thinking process is very useful for lot of things and essential in some jobs.

 

Sighs, this took me more than expected. I'm always tired when I have to specify something, and even more when I have to add certain sentences to prevent hurt someone else's feelings. This sentence was probably unnecessary too. I have a few things more to say, but I don't have the full idea yet, so I didn't. 

 

I just expect this doesn't sound rude and kitten, because it's almost 5:00 am and I don't want to start an argument. But by this time you maybe already saw that I suck at it.

[trang95]

Oh, I see! Well, Naruto is no longer in the top 3 either so...

 

 

 

So Nana Mizuki is nothing more than series destroyer... LOL!

She should just sing and stay away from voice acting.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

I wonder if Kishi is going to finally talk about what his mini manga series will be about in this interview.

 

@Konoha'sCrimsonFox

What if send PM ramen?

 

It's adressed to anyone who goes to that site. I do not know how to read Japanese lol.

 

Hey... how's ths?

 

「岸本。素晴らしいが。だけでなく、あなたが、最後の2章と漫画とプリオーダーチケット詐欺を販売している映画を台無しにしていること。あなたは卑劣な人にナルトを作るために管理し、許可されたSPが低下する（映画）や商業を通してさくらに屈辱をし、あなたは彼が漫画（サクラ）を通じて血液関連姉妹であると考えていることを（胸を通して千鳥刃で）彼の可能愛興味（カリン）、誰かを乱用するためにサスケを使用していました。詳細は、あなたが女性とアップこれらの2つの雄の文字をペアで彼らは一度サスケファンとして、私もあなたは彼が（侵害なし）漫画の過程を通して姉妹として考えていることを誰かと彼をペアリングしていることを侮辱しています。集めたことがない。それは良いだろうあなたが復活した場合、うちは美琴は、私が（虐待なし）のSSの関係を参照してくださいどのようなので、うちは一族を再設定するために、彼女の息子を切った彼女と結婚していない。それは何もなく、プラトニックを。

     

    私はペアの前に最初のナルトファンです。サイドSasuKarinに沿ってあなたのエンドゲームの意図だった伏線としてではなく、その問題への上、NaruSakuことがある間違いではありません。あなたがあなたの秘密の「名前のない」ナルトミニ漫画シリーズで計画しているものは何でも、私はその真の、より良いエンディングことを願っています。そうでない場合、私は非常にこの来る春漫画をキャンセルして、全体の原稿を書き直す提案する。

     

    それは、NSはカノンになるかどうかについては本当にありません。これは、キヤノンに忠実なのです。非常に控えめに言っても、私は1つのペアリングファンダムに基づいてバイアスされていないよ。でも、非ペアリングと一般的なファンはNSがすべての発展にあることを意味したことを伝えることができます。それが言われることを意図したように、キヤノンとそのストーリーに忠実であり続ける。あなたは最後の698の章では、彼らの発展を説明しているため、NSの詳細に行く必要はありません。一般的なファン"のためにそれを検討してください。

     

    から：Konoha'sCrimsonFox。

 

Is this Google translation?

[Nar123]

That's what people keep saying in here. Toriko started out as a manga with huge potential to becoming a new "Big Three" Manga in 2008. But then the anime came out and people bashed it like crazy. Nana voiced apparently a non-cannon character named Froeze? The anime is now on hiatus and the sales of the Manga have dropped immensely.
I haven't read the manga or seen the anime, so I'm just listing what other fans are saying.

She voiced a non canon character called Tina

[trang95]

   

Still nowhere near as bad as Bleach's sales after the whole Fullbring fiasco

 

Oh, yeah, Bleach sales have dropped immensely over the time. Look at the manga sales in Japan in this link. Bleach is not even in the top ten:

Many other mangas are already are replacing Naruto and Bleach.

http://www.animenews...ies-2014/.81607

The name is Tina. A character that appeared in the anime and never in the manga (except for a cameo).

They also put her in the crossover episode with one piece and dragon ball.

Lol, she really must have ruined the anime if it was put on hiatus.

I've seen enough filler characters that were handled well by the studios. For example, MeiLin from CardCaptor Sakura. Practically nonexistant in the manga, but still a funny and likable character in the anime.

[Khaleesi]

what's happening? the doll ruining another anime? I mean, I've read people saying that like aprox 17 times here but I was too lazy to actually read it, so can someone explain it to me? 

[trang95]

She voiced a non canon character called Tina

Apparently, she voiced two characters apparently in two Toriko. 

[Nar123]

 
Oh, yeah, Bleach sales have dropped immensely over the time. Look at the manga sales in Japan in this link. Bleach is not even in the top ten:
Many other mangas are already are replacing Naruto and Bleach.
http://www.animenews...ies-2014/.81607
Lol, she really must have ruined the anime if it was put on hiatus.
I've seen enough filler characters that were handled well by the studios. For example, MeiLin from CardCaptor Sakura. Practically nonexistant in the manga, but still a funny and likable character in the anime.

The thing about filler characters is that many people doesn't like them, even more when this filler character who isn't even part of the original story hogs the spotlight.

The company pushed tina to the fans hoping that mizuki's popularity would make that character likable, well they were terribly wrong

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

Mizuki's after all is well known for destroying animes.

[milan kyuubi]

Even if SP keeps deleting 1 star reviews. That will only make the fans angrier! They can even putt 5 for the ratings. But it will not change people opinion of the movie. Movie sucked big time! And they can't change that! 

 

 

Mizuki's after all is well known for destroying animes.

 

I will never watch another anime with her in it. Never!

Edited by milan kyuubi, 11 December 2014 - 09:51 AM.

[trang95]

The thing about filler characters is that many people doesn't like them, even more when this filler character who isn't even part of the original story hogs the spotlight.

The company pushed tina to the fans hoping that mizuki's popularity would make that character likable, well they were terribly wrong

Oh man, i just saw a clip from tina, and I am already annoyed by her. Maybe it's b/c I keep associating her with Hinata, but I can already imagine that she is this terribly annoying side character no one even cares about.

[Chatte]

No, distant when talking with anyone. You probably won't like my analyzis because i'm blunt, sometimes I don't identify when I'm being rude and my wording feels personal. 

You could say that you include words of endearment but it's like your thing, not something I will feel emotionally touched by it, but expected. As if you were selling me something. That's why I said distant. You are assertive.

By your kind of wording and a bit of observing I infer you are selfish (this doesn't have to do with empathy) and arrogant, but not something you will like to admit. Those are something that I am too, but, in my case, I don't actually see it as a negative thing. Probably because I like my ""flaws"" too. By experience, I can say that you are not agressive, but you are fierce, don't like to lose and a fighter. Also, you are a detallist and generator of ideas. You follow a logical line, based on concrete facts, but you complete the idea with abstract thoughts. Sometimes you can get lost in those abstract thoughts. What seems logically fit in the reality, for more percentage of probabilities it has, it doesn't mean it will be the correct answer, but with experience in this field, one can become a well-rounded person on it. This kind of thinking process is very useful for lot of things and essential in some jobs.

 

Sighs, this took me more than expected. I'm always tired when I have to specify something, and even more when I have to add certain sentences to prevent hurt someone else's feelings. This sentence was probably unnecessary too. I have a few things more to say, but I don't have the full idea yet, so I didn't. 

 

I just expect this doesn't sound rude and kitten, because it's almost 5:00 am and I don't want to start an argument. But by this time you maybe already saw that I suck at it.

Haha, no dear, I don't mind, don't worry! I mostly agree with what you've written here, maybe I'd have some completing to do here and there. And I don't mind because I like these kind of things tbh, I do them always in my mind myself haha. I am not a psychology student or anything, but with various experiences in my life I've gotten to read people pretty good. Granted, sometimes I am wrong, nobody's perfect.

And yes, I do become selfish and arrogant when stepped on my toes... it's something I do with full knowledge. 

 

Usually my behavior depends on what I receive... I'm literally the person that pays with the same coin whether i want it or not. I just can't help it, that's who I am. 

Anyway, haha, it would be a lot more to talk but I'm not the subject here, hehe.

But as I said, I generally agree with your view, but like I said, I'd probably change some things here and there as in add something or idk. Aanyway, haha. Moving on

But thanks for your input I like reading things like these from time to time! ^_^

Edited by Chatte, 11 December 2014 - 09:52 AM.

[MoonDrop04]

I love Naruto too much to not care about it anymore. Unlike others, I can kind of deal with my pain. I am even willing to possibly watch the Last to make up my own honest opinion. - I saw some clips on tumblr and had a good laugh b/c it was so ridiculous.
As for the fillers: Yes, minorities can move mountains. They can effect changes. But unless someone as influencial as Hayou Miyazaki steps in, I honestly doubt that this anime fillers will change. This is not Toriko in which Nana Mizuki's character stole the spot light and united everyone in the fandom in their rage.
Have you seen how they have recently twisted Sakura's character again to make Anti- Sakura fans hate her even more? Yes, I'm talking about this stupid TV comercial in which once again Sakura asks why Hinata is stealing the spot light from her in the Last (kitten you Naruto for avoding answering that question). 

Well we can't expect to take on a big fish without preparing ourselves beforehand right?

It'll take some time and careful planning to reach our way to the final boss so we shouldn't be thinking big right at the start. We should start small and gradually build our way up with gaining new supporters and eventually influential people. Everything after that will smooth sailing and we'll go with the flow afterwards.

Right now major criticism against The Last is a very good first step for us and in time the more SP throws at us, the more we can use it against them. We are gonna show them what happens when you mess with a true fan and to someone fighting a good cause!!! X)

[Lady Lys]

Also I just came across this while trying to google the post http://kotaku.com/th...ngin-1668105704

LOL. He must sniff some good stuff. We should totes try some. He's denying the undeniable, fans hate it. They do. (there was even one good review that explained why fans hated it, he called it the "hyperbole of disappointed fans". LOL not. it's cashing well because they don't allow refunds. We'll see how it goes in the next future. I foresee rain and thunderstorms for them.)

I'm still waiting for NHers to rage when they discover that their precious Hime-sama-moe-kawaii merchandise is collecting dust on the shelves. 

Edited by Lady Lys, 11 December 2014 - 09:54 AM.

[Atheck]

Oh, yeah, Bleach sales have dropped immensely over the time. Look at the manga sales in Japan in this link. Bleach is not even in the top ten:
Many other mangas are already are replacing Naruto and Bleach.
http://www.animenews...ies-2014/.81607

 

Now is that the result of Mizuki's irritating presence usurping control over the story or because the manga is over and people are feeling less inclined to financially support it? 

[Khaleesi]

Haha, no dear, I don't mind, don't worry! I mostly agree with what you've written here, maybe I'd have some completing to do here and there. And I don't mind because I like these kind of things tbh, I do them always in my mind myself haha. I am not a psychology student or anything, but with various experiences in my life I've gotten to read people pretty good. Granted, sometimes I am wrong, nobody's perfect.

And yes, I do become selfish and arrogant when stepped on my toes... it's something I do with full knowledge. 

 

Usually my behavior depends on what I receive... I'm literally the person that pays with the same coin whether i want it or not. I just can't help it, that's who I am. 

Anyway, haha, it would be a lot more to talk but I'm not the subject here, hehe.

But as I said, I generally agree with your view, but like I said, I'd probably change some things here and there as in add something or idk. Aanyway, haha. Moving on

But thanks for your input I like reading things like these from time to time! ^_^

Those are the effects of me trying to not make it look harsh, you will agree more without the added sentences.  And of course there is a lot to add, because it's a short analyzis and I don't feel like explaining deep what I mean in some things because it can become confusing. 

And yes, the situation, blah, blah. But that's something specific, this is a general view and a very short one. 

And, lol, detallist, again. 

No problem. 

[milan kyuubi]

Chatte about your idea to talk to Kishi. I think it will be much better if we find some Japanese fan (obviously not NH/SS fan) who will already be at Jump Festa. And send him him several well thought out questions he can ask Kishi!

[Chatte]

 

Now is that the result of Mizuki's irritating presence usurping control over the story or because the manga is over and people are feeling less inclined to financially support it? 

It began dropping for quite a long time now. people were telling me when I argued with them but i didn't wanna believed it.

it slowly started to decrease after pein arc... go figure!

what do we have after pein arc? bs ss and nh... 

 

 

Chatte about your idea to talk to Kishi. I think it will be much better if we find some Japanese fan (obviously not NH/SS fan) who will already be at Jump Festa. And send him him several well thought out questions he can ask Kishi!

But besides our own Japanese fans I don't know anyone...

Edited by Chatte, 11 December 2014 - 10:03 AM.

[milan kyuubi]

But besides our own Japanese fans I don't know anyone...

 

I know! Maybe we can ask our poster girl source if she is going, or if she knows someone else who is going, and pass them the questions!