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#26801 Sakura~

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 01:27 AM

There's at least one filler where they have Naruto say he loves Sakura and won't give up on her.

 

And then there's this omake:

LOL this is probably my second favourite omake. My favourite would be this. Sakura's scream was hilarious. 

 


Edited by Sakura~, 14 August 2014 - 01:28 AM.

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#26802 Nostradamus

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 01:29 AM

Can somebody please tell oh how what Naruto said here connects with 631? Because I fail to see it 

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It doesn't connect with 631. It's just the NH fanbase using this moment as "proof" that Naruto was joking about the girlfriend comment.


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Posted 14 August 2014 - 01:29 AM

If only...



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Posted 14 August 2014 - 01:31 AM

Can somebody please tell oh how what Naruto said here connects with 631? Because I fail to see it 

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I don't think it does. I think Naruto's reaction is played purely for comedy, just like Sakura's tsundere moments. Naruto already knows she can hurt him if she really wanted to, it never stopped him from loving her before.


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Posted 14 August 2014 - 01:35 AM

@luffy
Toei animation for onepiece is that bad?

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Naruto love sakura, naruto dev already max in poal and sakura in her confession. After that kishi only need to make or break it. He could prolong NS status quo.

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 01:35 AM

It makes me sad that the last "real" NS moment we got was when Naruto told Sai that he likes Sakura  which is over a decade ago..


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#26807 ramenanmitsu

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 01:36 AM

The only problem is, he says that Kakashi's words can be taken either way (she no longer loves him romantically, or she still does).

Technically, I don't disagree with him. I've made it clear that when I was first translating, I took the context and previous speech into consideration.

TakL always translate it very technically word to word and leaves the context vague. It's his translation style. So, I don't think he's necessarily wrong, and I would do the same thing if I had to translate under NF.
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Posted 14 August 2014 - 01:38 AM

Naruto shipping resolves sllllloooowwwwllllyyyy no matter what your OTP is. 


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Posted 14 August 2014 - 01:39 AM

@luffy
Toei animation for onepiece is that bad?

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Naruto love sakura, naruto dev already max in poal and sakura in her confession. After that kishi only need to make or break it. He could prolong NS status quo.

Yes. Although the anime rarely has filler episodes, it's mainly due to the fact that they drag out a lot of scenes. Don't even get me started on their long ass recaps.


Edited by luffyq1, 14 August 2014 - 01:40 AM.

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 01:41 AM

 

苦しい言い訳にしか聞こえねェってばよ
N:You're saying nothing but poor excuses.
サクラちゃんの事はオレも分かってるつもりだ
N: I think to know you too, Sakura-chan.
だから何で分かんないの!
S: So why don't you understand!!!!?
私はもう犯罪者になったサスケくんなんて何とも思ってない!
S: I think nothing of that criminal Sasuke-kun anymore!
だから私との約束ももう関係ない!
S: So it doesn't have nothing to do with your promise with me anymore!
約束の問題じゃねーんだ
N: It isn't a matter of promise.
サスケの奴が何で復讐に取りつかれて暴れてんのか...
N: I think I have comprehended a bit why...
オレにも少し分かる気がすんだ...
N: Sasuke has became so fiercely obsessed with revenge...
サスケは家族や自分の一族が大好きだった...
N: Sasuke loved his family and his clan...
愛情が深ー奴だから余計に許せねーんだと思う
N: I think it's because his love for them makes it growing late so much that he cannot give up.
だったら何でその許せねーイタチを倒した後
K: If so, why did he join the "Akatsuki"
"暁"に荷担する?
K: after he killed that unforgivable Itachi?
そうじゃなかった...
N: It's not like that...
本当は...
N: The truth is...
ナルト!
K: NARUTO!
*skipping flashback*
サクラちゃんとの約束がなくなっても
N: My promise with Sakura-chan whether or not is gone,
関係ねーよ
N: It isn't related to that.

Well, the argument I'm having problems with is that Sai misrepresented Naruto's feelings by implying that Naruto was trying to save Sasuke out of desperate love for Sakura, and when Sakura confesses her feelings and tells him that the promise doesn't stand between them anymore, he says it has nothing to do with the promise and drops the promise like if it was nothing to him.



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Posted 14 August 2014 - 01:43 AM

I took at as, even without his promise to her he still has reasons for getting Sasuke back.

We all know Narutp never goes back on his word, I doubt that would be the case even if he hated Sakura. He takes promises very seriously, he wouldn't drop it over petty reasons.

 

And, according to Sai's words, Sai's reasoning was based on how Naruto acted around Sakura. Not an exact quote, but "I read that people tend to smile more around people they like". And, Naruto confirmed Sai's suspicions when he said he didn't feel like he could confess to Sakura until the promise was fulfilled.


Edited by questdrivencollie, 14 August 2014 - 01:48 AM.

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 01:44 AM

It makes me sad that the last "real" NS moment we got was when Naruto told Sai that he likes Sakura  which is over a decade ago..

That's because naruto love sakura. He doesn't deny nor doubt it.
While sakura full of question mark.

War arc goes almost 4 year.
No NS interaction after kage summit arc. That's kishi way to prolong NS canonization.

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 01:46 AM

Yes. Although the anime rarely has filler episodes, it's mainly due to the fact that they drag out a lot of scenes. Don't even get me started on their long ass recaps.

Oh, they still do that?



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Posted 14 August 2014 - 01:49 AM

Well, the argument I'm having problems with is that Sai misrepresented Naruto's feelings by implying that Naruto was trying to save Sasuke out of desperate love for Sakura, and when Sakura confesses her feelings and tells him that the promise doesn't stand between them anymore, he says it has nothing to do with the promise and drops the promise like if it was nothing to him.

Actually, that's quite a good observation.

Sai didn't misinterpret Naruto's feelings. Sakura told Sai that Naruto would do anything for Sasuke, who he deems as a brother. So Sai knows that Naruto is trying to save Sasuke for himself too.

The main point is that Sai believes that the promise was a burden because it was limiting Naruto's desire to tell his feelings to Sakura. The promise was a burden in that sense. Sakura doesn't really understand the extent of how much Naruto wants to express how much he cares for her but can't. She just understood from Sai's words that the promise was a burden. I doubt she understands fully to WHY it's such a burden.

That's my opinion anyways...

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 01:51 AM

Oh, they still do that?

They've been doing this for years. I dropped it during the fishmen island arc, but I doubt they'd stopped doing it, especially from the reviews that I've heard.


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Posted 14 August 2014 - 01:51 AM

Yuck, don't take my translation out of this site. I don't want my name to be known by those NH/SS shippers. Besides, my translations are in line with TakL. Use his if you're on NF.

I wouldn't worry about it you're famous to the NH and SS shippers on NF anyway as "the guy who refused to translate 675 because SS iz canon" atleast thats what Ch1p says.

 

There's a reason why people keep saying "the cancerdome is spreading throughout the forums" I only really visit NF for the movie forums now since the OBD is still down and everyone in the shipping wars are inept and hard-headed. Still better than MVC but still. 

 

 

Oh, they still do that?

 

 

That's the one thing I hate about OP they drag out the story arcs so long...


Edited by Pepsi, 14 August 2014 - 01:53 AM.

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 01:51 AM

I was told that Sakura didn't fake smile, she was lost with words that Sasuke is back. Ok then...



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Posted 14 August 2014 - 01:53 AM

@luffy
They don't use filler? What about oda cover story? They can make it from that, right?
I think that's why anime with 12 to 20 episode per season have better animation than weekly animated manga.

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 01:54 AM

I was told that Sakura didn't fake smile, she was lost with words that Sasuke is back. Ok then...

Ofcourse didn't you hear Sai? "her words are sincere" :hm:


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Posted 14 August 2014 - 01:55 AM

Curious, about how long does it take for an anime based on a weekly manga to animate each episode? I assume it's longer than a week. Though it stands to reason that it would be more rushed than shorter anime, I suppose.


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