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#2661 Phantom_999

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Posted 30 September 2015 - 07:19 PM

Can't comment on that cause I've never read it but I'll take your word for it. Still it could play a factor though or else why aren't there many other series like JoJo then? 


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Posted 30 September 2015 - 09:47 PM

Can't comment on that cause I've never read it but I'll take your word for it. Still it could play a factor though or else why aren't there many other series like JoJo then? 

Because author is genius, and his story keeps on telling for 25+ years.

Don't get me wrong, there is no manga without asspulls (if it's not oneshot), but in FT caliber of those just ridiculous now.



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Posted 30 September 2015 - 09:52 PM

Because author is genius, and his story keeps on telling for 25+ years.
Don't get me wrong, there is no manga without asspulls (if it's not oneshot), but in FT caliber of those just ridiculous now.

FT isn't bad in regards to it, it's just certain characters Erza that get constant asspulls in FT.

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Posted 30 September 2015 - 10:27 PM

FT hasn't hit that low. Let's not get carried away.

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Posted 01 October 2015 - 01:11 PM

Because author is genius, and his story keeps on telling for 25+ years.

Don't get me wrong, there is no manga without asspulls (if it's not oneshot), but in FT caliber of those just ridiculous now.

 

Mmm Well actually i think it varies from character to character. the frequency too. I do see your point though, I just don't dwell on it too much cause it takes the enjoyment out if I just nitpick at the flaws and graceless writing


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Posted 05 October 2015 - 12:13 PM

New chapter is out:http://www.mangaread.../fairy-tail/455

 

Really liked this one. I thought the fight with Erza would take up the whole chapter, but it seems she got defeated too easily. The highlight of the chapter was definitely Brandish in Lucy's bathroom. I really want to know what that's all about, hope we'll see it in the next chapter. Honestly, when Lucy heard the noise in her bathroom, I was expecting it to be Aquarius, since Lucy was just thinking about her. I was disappointed at first,but it looks like the situation with Brandish could also be very interesting.



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Posted 05 October 2015 - 01:14 PM

Yeah i was thinking it was Aquarius too.


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Posted 05 October 2015 - 01:49 PM

The possibility remains that one of those very reinforcements are actually Ishgar's forces. A force this large coming from 3 sides wouldn't go unnoticed by the current council. Warren's radar system may be sophisticated, but it's likely that it can't distinguish friend from foe. The large magical signatures the system is picking up could very well belong to the remaining 3 Gods of Ishgar along with the rest of the WS

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Posted 05 October 2015 - 01:50 PM

My thoughts:

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Posted 05 October 2015 - 01:51 PM

Crappy chapter was crappy, same old formula, felt like I'd read this chapter multiple times already....Masihma has a good story to tell but the same old routines every single time is killing this manga. I bet if he'd changed the formula every so often this manga would be competing with Shounen Jumps bigger manga's instead it's hit it's peak and dispite having climatic moments there is no feeling of dread, or excitement. It's like story telling by number. Any other manga I'd be hyped about what will happen next, how they'll react etc, instead it's...oh we're at stage two of his tried trusted formula. He's killed the hype by doing the same thing over and over again.

 

The only remotely interesting this was why the top ten mage was in Lucy's tub, I didn't even care about the how she got there part.


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Posted 05 October 2015 - 02:26 PM

I definitely agree to a certain extent. But you can't deny he is actually good at this. Some may criticize him for not trying to get out of his comfort zone, but I think Tartaros defintely showed that he is pretty capable of it. But like you said, the manga has hit its peak. Tartaros was most definitely the series' peak, so to see him going back to his old formula may be dissappointing, but it's a pretty smart move I think.

If he tried to gamble too much, and with how Tartaros raised the bar for the series as a whole, it would end up biting him hard later on. There is one consolation though; we're going to reach the big 500 pretty soon. If you look back at the series, chapters around X00 or so usually has a big whammy in it. So my guess is that Mashima plans on building up the arc up until that point. By that point, the pace will likely start to pick up as well.

On another note: we're going to have an early chapter this week because of holiday in Japan. We might get the next on friday/saturday.

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Posted 05 October 2015 - 02:27 PM

It's too early to call anything. I'll be on hold to see what unfolds.

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Posted 05 October 2015 - 07:00 PM

I definitely agree to a certain extent. But you can't deny he is actually good at this. Some may criticize him for not trying to get out of his comfort zone, but I think Tartaros defintely showed that he is pretty capable of it. But like you said, the manga has hit its peak. Tartaros was most definitely the series' peak, so to see him going back to his old formula may be dissappointing, but it's a pretty smart move I think.

If he tried to gamble too much, and with how Tartaros raised the bar for the series as a whole, it would end up biting him hard later on. There is one consolation though; we're going to reach the big 500 pretty soon. If you look back at the series, chapters around X00 or so usually has a big whammy in it. So my guess is that Mashima plans on building up the arc up until that point. By that point, the pace will likely start to pick up as well.

On another note: we're going to have an early chapter this week because of holiday in Japan. We might get the next on friday/saturday.

 

He has talent, Rave Master while the story did go a bit wobbly about two thirds of the way through with the new charactors that didn't really add much to the manga, was so much better than this. which frustrates me as you can tell he's taken so many parts from that manga to create this, yet it doesn't take the same risks. That moment where they found the necklace on a skeleton and then later we find out about who that skeleton was and the sacrifice destroys anything this manga has done, and sad part is if Mashima took a few more risks, FT would be so much better than RM, you know the charactors are more fleshed out, the universe is more expanded on, but the constant recycling of situations just ruins the moments.

 

I read this chapter and felt like I was reading the first chapter from the final. The way things started going their way, the way the firsts plans started coming apart the way way it started looking bleak...it was a serious case of Deja Vu.


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Posted 05 October 2015 - 07:44 PM

I definitely agree to a certain extent. But you can't deny he is actually good at this. Some may criticize him for not trying to get out of his comfort zone, but I think Tartaros defintely showed that he is pretty capable of it. But like you said, the manga has hit its peak. Tartaros was most definitely the series' peak, so to see him going back to his old formula may be dissappointing, but it's a pretty smart move I think.

If he tried to gamble too much, and with how Tartaros raised the bar for the series as a whole, it would end up biting him hard later on. There is one consolation though; we're going to reach the big 500 pretty soon. If you look back at the series, chapters around X00 or so usually has a big whammy in it. So my guess is that Mashima plans on building up the arc up until that point. By that point, the pace will likely start to pick up as well.

On another note: we're going to have an early chapter this week because of holiday in Japan. We might get the next on friday/saturday.

Don't know what you liked in Tartaros, but oh well. For me - Mashima's best chapters was those 2 where he showed Zeref and next to him firts appearence of Akno as human. There was Rave-like feeling in those. quality.

 

FT has just to many chapters, middle of manga is lost in arcs that meant nothing, like I have no problems of expanding the story and characters, but all those arcs wasn't necessary and now it seems - they didn't have any meaning.

 

Build up for this "final" is pretty weak IF FT won't be smashed, because let's be honest - there is no way FT could stand army of empire by itself, but it will  :zaru:



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Posted 05 October 2015 - 07:48 PM

I'm happy with this manga, just not surprised. That's all I can say. Like it's enjoyable and a personal favourite, it's just I don't actually feel surprised by what happens.


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Posted 06 October 2015 - 03:39 AM

He has talent, Rave Master while the story did go a bit wobbly about two thirds of the way through with the new charactors that didn't really add much to the manga, was so much better than this. which frustrates me as you can tell he's taken so many parts from that manga to create this, yet it doesn't take the same risks. That moment where they found the necklace on a skeleton and then later we find out about who that skeleton was and the sacrifice destroys anything this manga has done, and sad part is if Mashima took a few more risks, FT would be so much better than RM, you know the charactors are more fleshed out, the universe is more expanded on, but the constant recycling of situations just ruins the moments.
 
I read this chapter and felt like I was reading the first chapter from the final. The way things started going their way, the way the firsts plans started coming apart the way way it started looking bleak...it was a serious case of Deja Vu.


I feel that this might be because as you say, the series has hit its peak, and it's become so popular that the overseas audience would've heard of it at least once, that Mashima and his editorial team felt they can't push their luck too much otherwise risking their audience. It's understandable, but I'm not complaining since the story hasn't totally fallen apart (yet) like some series.....

I mean, a good testament to Mashima's popularity would be his half a million followers on twitter, seeing that huge a number can put some pressure. (I suspect Horikoshi will have triple that number by the time MHA reaches its peak)

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Posted 06 October 2015 - 11:00 AM

I feel that this might be because as you say, the series has hit its peak, and it's become so popular that the overseas audience would've heard of it at least once, that Mashima and his editorial team felt they can't push their luck too much otherwise risking their audience. It's understandable, but I'm not complaining since the story hasn't totally fallen apart (yet) like some series.....

I mean, a good testament to Mashima's popularity would be his half a million followers on twitter, seeing that huge a number can put some pressure. (I suspect Horikoshi will have triple that number by the time MHA reaches its peak)

 

Let's just hope they don't end up catering too much to the audience, otherwise we could end up with a Kishiesque ending. 


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Posted 06 October 2015 - 12:32 PM

To be perfectly fair, I think catering to the audience a lot wouldn't really be very harmful to Mashima. He's obviously one of the most active mangaka on twitter (and probably one of the most net-savvy too) and takes time to hear what his fans have to say (he may not speak English, but I think he has a good grasp of it to get what we're saying) and caters to them in a way that it doesn't derail the story.

On another note, did anyone see the new opening? I think it's by far the best opening the series has ever had. It's pretty much the kind of opening I've always envisioned for the series.

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Posted 06 October 2015 - 01:04 PM

I think it's only matter of end with a bang or a whimper. I don't think it has the chance to ruin the theme and characters. Plot, perhaps, but it won't be offensive.

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Posted 06 October 2015 - 03:49 PM

I feel that this might be because as you say, the series has hit its peak, and it's become so popular that the overseas audience would've heard of it at least once, that Mashima and his editorial team felt they can't push their luck too much otherwise risking their audience. It's understandable, but I'm not complaining since the story hasn't totally fallen apart (yet) like some series.....

I mean, a good testament to Mashima's popularity would be his half a million followers on twitter, seeing that huge a number can put some pressure. (I suspect Horikoshi will have triple that number by the time MHA reaches its peak)

 

His popularity on Twitter accounts also partially to him being active user who posts exclusive art on the account as well.

 

I wish he'd push the boat a bit more, it's just sad when the FT: Zero series surpassed everything the main series has done in years by a large margin, That series reminded me what Mashima is capable of, the types of emotions he can make you feel, it revived my interest in the manga, it got me excited that the Mashima I remembered when I picked up this series over six years ago still exists and he's ready to prove it once again...but it's been all cookie cutter stuff so far.

 

If it was any other mangaka I'd probably give him a pass, but I've seen what he's capable of, I know he is better than the content he publishes...so that's why I'm so let down with this weeks chapter.


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