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#2661 DrK

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Posted 24 December 2018 - 02:06 AM

Damn it 95. Now I have animeballsdeep being recommended to me. Judging by the title of his latest video he is giddy because he thinks SP listens to his reviews because he thinks one of his fan theory about Cups may be true; about him having some of kaguya's (the inter-dimensional space gods) dna in him. Also some video of him saying there is 20 things about Jiraiya that make no sense to him. Judging by the image he can't understand why he would love Tsunade even though she is in love with another man, or won't get together with her after Dan died.

Well it truly doesn't make sense that Jiraiya in the manga loved Tsunade, since Naruto didn't really love Sakura it ends up not serving any purpose in the story.



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Posted 24 December 2018 - 03:52 PM

Well it truly doesn't make sense that Jiraiya in the manga loved Tsunade, since Naruto didn't really love Sakura it ends up not serving any purpose in the story.

By that logic, I guess only Orochimaru truly loved Tsunade because he asked her to do that one thing that one time. See how much he thinks about her?














 

 

I am being facetious by the way. That is basically the logic of SS and NH. Jiraiya can buy Tsunade the perfect gift, treat her right, make all her dreams come true....but that is only being friendly. If Orochimaru spits in Tsunade's direction he apparently totally loves her.

When did the concept of love change so much meaning? It's like me saying "Hey, you remember the guy from the Notebook? He didn't really love her...he just felt sorry for her because he was her good friend."


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Posted 25 December 2018 - 04:13 AM

 

On bold: that is unlikely because as I said, they moved Shippuden back to its original time slot. If that was the case, both should had on the deal for better slots not just one.

 

3rd one sounds they really want ratings. Honestly, I do not know why they even decide to air the trash very early but didn't even finish airing Shippuden's dub. And right now, its STILL not even in the Fourth War arc.

 

I started following Toonami ratings around the time they brought Gundam back, just to see what they were like (and because I was dealing with idiots who were convinced Gundam IBO was this huge anime in the States). Back during those early days, Toonami was doing a LOT better than they were doing now. Like now, Dragon Ball Super is pretty much the only show that can get over a half million viewers. When I started, Dragonball was doing like 1.3 million-ish, and the next couple of shows would score over a million as well.

 

But with each new show, the overall ratings would go down. Gundam was the start of this, singled out as the weak link in the night. Then Jojo came along and has continued to lose viewers to this day. My Hero Academia, Tokyo Ghoul, Pop Team Epic, it just gets worse and worse. The thing is, I remember people moaning about bad the ratings were back in those days. Hell, despite calling Gundam IBO a flop during it's run people were convinced that bringing it back for season two would mean those million-ish viewers it scored would return. Didn't happen, season two did worse than Gundam Unicorn (and Unicorn was moved back).

 

If you want to see the ratings, go to the Toonami subreddit each Tuesday. You'll see a lot of people talking about how cable is dying and how these are good numbers despite them freaking out over better numbers this time last year. Here's last week's.

 

https://www.reddit.c...mber_15th_2018/


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Posted 25 December 2018 - 04:52 AM

While you probably weren't focus on it do you mind telling us; how Naruto and Boruto been doing rating-wise for the people who don't want to go through the effort themselves?



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Posted 25 December 2018 - 01:05 PM

What does it say when a person tries to recommend Boruto to you and the only selling point they can give you is the animation quality of episode 65? Especially when they tell you that it's a series that they themselves don't watch on a consistent basis?

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Posted 25 December 2018 - 02:36 PM

What does it say when a person tries to recommend Boruto to you and the only selling point they can give you is the animation quality of episode 65? Especially when they tell you that it's a series that they themselves don't watch on a consistent basis?

What people are trying to convince you of is; "if that episode was good(?) then the rest of the show must be good or could be as good as that." Instead of the truth, that it was likely the peak quality Boruto was ever going to get, and likely never reach again. Remember that was one of the episodes based on the movie, the father-son rasengan one.


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Posted 25 December 2018 - 04:26 PM

While you probably weren't focus on it do you mind telling us; how Naruto and Boruto been doing rating-wise for the people who don't want to go through the effort themselves?

 

Okay, I'll try and sum it up.

 

Back when Naruto was at the end of the night, it helped hold things together. In fact, it wasn't uncommon for it to beat the show proceeding it in therms of viewers. As a result, there was an expressed sentiment among it's fans to move it closer to the front of the block.

 

Naruto is now at the front of the block, which is now starting way earlier than it used to. Ratings wise, it's doing worse than My Hero Academia or Dragon Ball (both the Kai reruns and Super), but coming off of MHA it doesn't do too bad (though MHA did lose 40k viewers from Kai this week). It doesn't spike up in the ratings anymore, but it's not like Jojo where it loses a lot of viewers either. Boruto does sync well coming off of his father as well. But it's not like we're seeing the 300k drops that Gundam and Jojo used to get coming off DBZ either when I first started looking at the ratings. The block retains itself pretty well, but again these numbers are a shadow of what they were two years ago.

 

The weird thing is Black Clover this week has some of the highest ratings in the 18-49 target demo, second only to DB Super.


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Posted 26 December 2018 - 12:02 AM

Okay, I'll try and sum it up.

 

Back when Naruto was at the end of the night, it helped hold things together. In fact, it wasn't uncommon for it to beat the show proceeding it in therms of viewers. As a result, there was an expressed sentiment among it's fans to move it closer to the front of the block.

 

Naruto is now at the front of the block, which is now starting way earlier than it used to. Ratings wise, it's doing worse than My Hero Academia or Dragon Ball (both the Kai reruns and Super), but coming off of MHA it doesn't do too bad (though MHA did lose 40k viewers from Kai this week). It doesn't spike up in the ratings anymore, but it's not like Jojo where it loses a lot of viewers either. Boruto does sync well coming off of his father as well. But it's not like we're seeing the 300k drops that Gundam and Jojo used to get coming off DBZ either when I first started looking at the ratings. The block retains itself pretty well, but again these numbers are a shadow of what they were two years ago.

 

The weird thing is Black Clover this week has some of the highest ratings in the 18-49 target demo, second only to DB Super.

Black Clover had a bad launch but has improved itself over time to the point we have formerly harsh critics of it are making videos recommending it to people.

 

So Naruto was a good closer for ratings. So they bought Boruto and put them both in the front hoping it would increase rating. Didn't work out, and probably lowered their overall ratings. So now they are trying to put Naruto back where it was hoping it would be like it used to be.


Edited by Bail o' Lies, 26 December 2018 - 01:31 AM.


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Posted 26 December 2018 - 03:04 PM

Apparently those Naruto shiden light novels are getting an anime adaptation.



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Posted 26 December 2018 - 06:44 PM

Apparently those Naruto shiden light novels are getting an anime adaptation.

Oh boy....
 


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Posted 26 December 2018 - 07:17 PM

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Posted 27 December 2018 - 02:11 AM

 

So Naruto was a good closer for ratings. So they bought Boruto and put them both in the front hoping it would increase rating. Didn't work out, and probably lowered their overall ratings. So now they are trying to put Naruto back where it was hoping it would be like it used to be.

 

Toonami also has the habit of putting shows at the front of the block when they start but moving them back when they get another new show. Gundam IBO was moved back for One Punch Man for instance. The back is more for the older shows and reruns, and the number of reruns has expanded over my time observing this. Naruto could have just been put there temporarily while they were waiting to get another show, all while airing something they already aired but still have the rights for.


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Posted 08 January 2019 - 11:06 PM

Ok this isn't super relevant but I did watch the TFS play dragonball advance adventure part four they talk about Boruto...also since they record this stuff way in advance they mentioned how they thought the samurai would have been more important a day or two before kishi revealed his new manga about cyborg samurai...anyways. Apparently Lani, and Grant watched Boruto separately but they both had the same opinion and stopped watching roughly at the same time. They thought the movie fight was well animated, didn't care about fat filler's little arc, and stop watching by the time the current arc got into the snake sage nonsense. They found some of the anime stories generic, and hoped they aren't canon...technically everything the anime is doing is canon. They don't like the fact the power up the previous generation had to risk their lives to obtain is just being causally given to Bolt's generation with no effort.

 

I'm bringing this up because it is very rare to find people talking about Boruto, and they genuinely come off as causal fans of Naruto.


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Posted 09 January 2019 - 01:10 AM

Yeah that is very true actually. You rarely find individuals that are casual fans of Naruto AND can talk about "Boruto" objectively. they are usually either pro-enders that kiss the feet of SP for making their dream of banging Hinata vicariously come true soo the writing is fictional media-gold, or you know just troll the kitten out of the series. Obviously those that still follow the series and can view thing objectively are very few now


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Posted 10 January 2019 - 07:24 AM

Yeah that is very true actually. You rarely find individuals that are casual fans of Naruto AND can talk about "Boruto" objectively. they are usually either pro-enders that kiss the feet of SP for making their dream of banging Hinata vicariously come true so the writing is fictional media-gold, or you know just troll the kitten out of the series. Obviously those that still follow the series and can view thing objectively are very few now

Or at least few people that will actually talk about it online. There are still people like those two that still watch Boruto simply because it the sequel to Naruto; not because their pairing won, or bile fascination. The part I find most important was they were just using it to fill dead-air but it quickly became clear they saw the same problems in the anime also they stopped watching at roughly the same time for the same reason, and agreed with each other instantly when one of brought up a problem. To me, this shows more of the problems the anime has then any grouchy recap I could do.

 

After the chunin exam copying the movie increased the level of quality of the anime for that arc both help and hurt the anime by raising fans standards for the series. For some like the people like the ones kagomaru talks to; it convinced them to stick around since the anime should eventually reach that level again. For others like the Lani and Grant; it gave them blue balls, made the lower quality stories that come after even more unimpressive to them to the point they got tired of it, and drop the series all together out of disappointment. Since, that arc may be the peak quality Boruto will ever reach, and with the manga slow pace as well as the lower quality of writing in both the anime and the manga. How long will it take for the audience to get tried of the story lower quality after the chunin exam? 


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Posted 27 January 2019 - 06:01 PM

So apparently the current anime arc is ending https://comicbook.co...arance-arc-end/

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Posted 27 January 2019 - 08:26 PM

So apparently the current anime arc is ending https://comicbook.co...arance-arc-end/

Wish it was the "Current Anime is ending" post


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Posted 27 January 2019 - 10:11 PM

Touche


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Posted 27 January 2019 - 11:51 PM

It says something about how bad this arc was as well as how its length hurt it instead of helped it; when even that article has to admit it has done so.


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Posted 28 January 2019 - 01:10 AM

Comment i read from horriblesubs:

 

I almost started to tear up when Sekiei started to cry talking to Mitsuki, protecting something makes you stronger, and Sekiei wanted to protect what is important to him, his friends.
That part made me remember what Haku said to Naruto in the Land of Waves Arc
Haku to Naruto : "When a person has something important they want to protect... that's when they can become truly strong."
Sarada was good as always, and Garaga finally appears and the fight against the golem was amazing, can't wait for the final boss in the next episode.

 

 

Everyone in there loving it and my prediction come true , looks like they make or more like rehash / recycle or whatever .... the zabuza arc.


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