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[luffyq1]

I keep seeing the bench scene being brought up, and I don't understand why? Naruto laughed after the forehead comment and said that was 'something Naruto would say'. "Sasuke" didn't compliment her forehead, he made a joke out of the statement, and then she looks disappointed. Why would that scene coming back be good? It seems anti-NS, considering Sakura was disappointed it wasn't from Sasuke.

Sakura will realize her feelings for Naruto through the forehead scene even though she hasn't dwelled on it for 690 chapters. Forget the fact that she hasn't shown any signs of being insecure about it anymore. Just accept the possibility that Kishi will bring it up since he's referencing events from part 1. 

 

It's a sad execution for making NS canon imo.

[Lilac]

Sakura will realize her feelings for Naruto through the forehead scene even though she hasn't dwelled on it for 690 chapters. Forget the fact that she hasn't shown any signs of being insecure about it anymore. Just accept the possibility that Kishi will bring it up since he's referencing events from part 1. 

 

It's a sad execution for making NS canon imo.

 

That's why I don't believe it will come back. The forehead thing stopped being a problem after she cut her hair. It also doesn't make sense, because if that's the moment that her feelings for Sasuke became love, then why does she never think back on it? Never flash back to it? It's never been brought up again in any form..

[narusaku256]

Oh, no. I'm not mad at all. But you are taking this from your point of view about moral. It's okay to have one, but this is not just that if you are applying prejudices, meaning something is not possible/it's not right because you point of view is absolute.
Loving two persons at the same time is possible. Seems like you understand that. But that doesn't makes her a bad person per se.
 
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Sorry, but i just see a bunch of letters and my eyes are kinda hurt. Sometimes i forget how to talk in spanish. Could you use more commas?
Let's see...Well, i don't agree that it's impossible to still place her loving Naruto more than she was for Sasuke. I don't exactly know how to explain this. Her feelings for Sasuke looks more intense for the situation. Or are you telling me that if right now were Naruto, she wouldn't worry at the same level? Or...worst?

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The situation doesn't make her love for Sasuke more powerful than her's for Naruto. 
 
WHAT? Okay, i need to calm down. Better i don't touch this subject.
 
??? Ask for someone to translate that sentence. And we will talk.
 
I know, I know. But i just telling you what seems more likeable. And I mean, 3, 4 years for Sakura and Naruto solve their feelings is the best way of not making him look like a 2 prize.

Oh no no! Not the absolute truth XD. Just that I spoke from the general point of view. I mean its like....people usually won't like their lover to have feelings for him/her as well as the other person and then when they are faced with it, they are quick to tag whoever is in question. My take on this is a bit different but I spoke from a common perspective or more like from the majority of the people's point of view. I dunno whether you got it or not since I had some difficulty in explaining my stand but I just hope you did

[luffyq1]

 

That's why I don't believe it will come back. The forehead thing stopped being a problem after she cut her hair. It also doesn't make sense, because if that's the moment that her feelings for Sasuke became love, then why does she never think back on it? Never flash back to it? It's never been brought up again in any form..

You're absolutely right. But It doesn't have to make sense and a lot of stuff in this series doesn't make sense. But the possibility is there since like I said before, Kishi is going back down memory lane. 

[Anthony]

By that logic Naruto could move on from Sakura and be with Hinata and she wouldnt be a silver medal

Now why in the world would Naruto do that? How many relationships have you been in?

[Diadochi]

About the bench scene, I always thought that Sakura did find out it was Naruto disguised as Sasuke when Naruto made her the Promise. Or was she contemplating that she was wrong about Naruto all along about him not understanding her feelings? - http://i.imgur.com/VAD4VS2.jpg

[JILLNYN]

My thougths For the NS fandom right now at this site:

arise, this fandom is not for the faint of heart,we have fought against all odds, against all forms of hatred, survived in the 181 in the 469, with the letter of the ninja, at 615, and we got up because the manga showed that all that was to have moments like Sakura Yamato words, to have the hug in the Pain arc, to have the 631, to have beautiful chapters like 663, get up!

How many times we have faced hard times in this manga? ...

many events, and what happened next? ...

move forward, Kishimoto always showed a serious problem and a major complication in the NS, always NS start was born with complications but always had a beautiful scene later.

Chapter 3 ... Sakura hating tNaruto thinking that he was annoying ... after realized that him suffering and should treat him better.

chapter 181  Sakura suffering for Sasuke, what happened next? Naruto was with her and pushed forward with the promise of life in the highest epitome of pure, selfless love I had ever seen

Chapter 469 ... Eventhough that she can not forget Sasuke is able to put it away to save Naruto's life, what happens next? Sakura realizes who is Naruto and devotes that he saved her and look him tenderness

 

At the arc of war: Sakura laments like all the feelings that she have for Sasuke bring her pain, what happens after all the time ?, cares about Naruto, and 663 closes the cycle in POAL  that Naruto does everything for see her happy selflessly, Sakura in this chapter does everything for his dream of becoming Hokage reality that love him enough to see him happy selflessly.

Why do I should feel that all the negativity in SS in this chapter affects the strengths feelings that Sakura have for Naruto ?

Sakura loves Naruto, is very clear and has NOTHING to do with this chapter. Sakura is an admirable woman in every other aspect of her life, be more emotionally vulverable human in all the manga and fell in love at the time with the wrong person is her worst flaw, Kishi said in the creation of her character "its enterely arbitrary choice of love object", the NS was born with this obstacle, Naruto loves her as she is, loves her knowing that she had feelings for Sasuke, so we had to go back in time and confront this chapter, it was necessary PAINFUL  but necessary, is the biggest hurdle for the NS canon, we have to remove the cancer from the core be weaken and survive the operation.

There are always difficulties in life, and the choices we make in these difficulties makes us who we are, when life throws us we decided get up and fight.

[Hiraishin]

About the bench scene, I always thought that Sakura did find out it was Naruto disguised as Sasuke when Naruto made her the Promise. Or was she contemplating that she was wrong about Naruto all along about him not understanding her feelings? - http://i.imgur.com/VAD4VS2.jpg

It's the latter.

"He seems to enjoy watching me be troubled. He doesn't understand anything about me, he's just annoying." --> "He always knew. He always helped me."

[Princess Iris]

About the bench scene, I always thought that Sakura did find out it was Naruto disguised as Sasuke when Naruto made her the Promise. Or was she contemplating that she was wrong about Naruto all along about him not understanding her feelings? - http://i.imgur.com/VAD4VS2.jpg

Right now...most of NS moments are diguised for Hinata & SS moments from Naruto since part 1


i dun think it will be revealed

[ns.Believe.It]

Warning: Lot of swear words.....but Hilarious 

Edited by KnS, 28 September 2014 - 06:42 PM.
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[六道仙人]

About the bench scene, I always thought that Sakura did find out it was Naruto disguised as Sasuke when Naruto made her the Promise. Or was she contemplating that she was wrong about Naruto all along about him not understanding her feelings? - http://i.imgur.com/VAD4VS2.jpg

 

the second one...

[Hiyuusha]

To be honest, if Sakura's whole reason for suddenly proclaiming her love for Naruto comes from that bench scene way back in part 1, I'd be incredibly disappointed. It's just that it feels like it'd be incredibly shallow of her to have something that happened some 600 chapters ago, YEARS ago for them, be the defining factor that makes her decide "Oh, forget Sasuke-kun after all, I love Naruto this whole time". Especially over something as silly as a forehead comment when they were children. If Kishi is going to do NaruSaku, I hope he has a way to do it better than that.

Edited by Hiyuusha, 28 September 2014 - 06:39 PM.

[Khaleesi]

Now why in the world would Naruto do that? How many relationships have you been in?

"By that logic"

[Otaru]

 

Okay.  So I've been thinking about the post Verilance made a bunch of pages back, and he's right.  I think we, as a community, have lost our way in terms of our expectations and reading this story the way it is intended.

 

If I stand back and take a calm look, it becomes clear that we've been expecting something more to be underneath the underneath, or a level of finesse that doesn't actually suit a shonen manga.

 

For ages now we've been collectively braying and bleating about the way those "other" fandoms are missing the point.  How they want something specific to happen... how they want what they want to happen so badly that they can't see the forest for the freaking trees.  Upon reflection I would say we've basically been doing the same thing.

 

We've been over-analyzing every little detail, speculating on how things were going to play out and doing so much of it so often that certain artifacts of our speculations have become our reality.  Just like those other fandoms.  And then when Kishimoto delivers something we didn't expect -- and certainly didn't sanction (like elements of this chapter) -- we scream and tear out our hair, dissolving into something that's, well, not very pretty.

 

I think we've been looking for an emotional gradient, for more subtle shading when Kishimoto has been rendering his story in much broader strokes.  Maybe it's just a natural result of having so much time on our hands in between updates to overthink.

 

 

I don't recognize myself at all in this analysis of the fandom.
Some are truly doing that, but I don't, and I'm not the only one.

There are delusional fans everywhere, and I think there is a lot of fans that are lucid also.

This time, I'm sorry, but Kishimoto contradicted himself about Sakura's feelings.
That's why there is such a clash IMO, because even people like me are not so happy now.
But not everybody is bragging around negatively. There are still some fans that are discussing all this in a calm manner.

[KnS]

not really, think about it, she daydreamed about it happening with sasuke before naruto did it henged, not because its sasuke but because its what she wants the man of her dreams to be like towards her, basically she's the same as kushina, she had the same dreams and same hate for her red hair.

 

AND.... 

 

Naruto gave us the clue in that scene himself:  "That sounds like something Naruto would say."

 

Not only does Sakura want to hear something romantic and affirming like that from a guy -- Naruto wants to say it.

 

And just in general, I really don't get why some folks are so determined to drag everything down, post after post after post. Lighten up.  We need to take our vitamins and save our strength for the moment NS finally happens.  

 

Even if we think it could have been done better, we will still like it a crapton better than the alternatives -- or than our fandom counterparts will.  

[Uzumaki9000]

Warning: Lot of swear words.....but Hilarious 
 

OMG I'm dying XD

Edited by KnS, 28 September 2014 - 06:43 PM.
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[FireFox]

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Sorry, but i just see a bunch of letters and my eyes are kinda hurt. Sometimes i forget how to talk in spanish. Could you use more commas?

Let's see...Well, i don't agree that it's impossible to still place her loving Naruto more than she was for Sasuke. I don't exactly know how to explain this. Her feelings for Sasuke looks more intense for the situation. Or are you telling me that if right now were Naruto, she wouldn't worry at the same level? Or...worst?

spoiler

 

The situation doesn't make her love for Sasuke more powerful than her's for Naruto. 

 

WHAT? Okay, i need to calm down. Better i don't touch this subject.

 

??? Ask for someone to translate that sentence. And we will talk.

 

I know, I know. But i just telling you what seems more likeable. And I mean, 3, 4 years for Sakura and Naruto solve their feelings is the best way of not making him look like a 2 prize.

Sorry I'll try sometimes I forget to use more comas  .

 

But You see that's the problem its not just this situation it has been like this with her feelings for Sasuke trough the whole manga 700 chaps

,  Her feelings for him are shown with much more intense  then they ever were for Naruto  , visually and as readers people will always find  more meaning in the intense scenes  and this is what's lacking for her love for Naruto to appear as much stronger then the one for Sasuke  , this is a huge mistake done by Kishimoto bc he has given much more emphasis/focus and intense on her love for Sasuke then the one she has for Naruto . This is why it doesn't look believable for NS  

 

But one thing I will admit that her confession in here seemed more like a barging then a real confession  and she was begging him to stop and come with them for T7  its like she forced her love in here for the sake of stopping this  . This is what confuses me bc we don't know the proper context in here , all is confusing  and I hope it will be more clear once the RAW comes out and we have the proper dialogue in our hands . 

 

Well I'm telling you from a guy perspective  this is how a guy would feel if he knows the girl he loves have feelings for another , it almost feel like cheating  no one will remain happy very sh*tty feeling trust me  and this is why I can relate to Naruto in this case . 

 

This is the original translation :  The love of Sakura filled the emptiness of loneliness, but Sasuke wasn't able to reciprocate it. The only word he can find to tell her goodbye is "Thank you".  Which means he rejected her bc Sasuke doesn't feel the same way he doesn't love her .

 

Well I rather see that in the manga then in a kittening movie *sign* .

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 28 September 2014 - 06:51 PM.

[Princess Iris]

Warning: Lot of swear words.....but Hilarious 

lol

Edited by KnS, 28 September 2014 - 06:52 PM.
Edited to remove profane content from quoted post.

[luffyq1]

To be honest, if Sakura's whole reason for suddenly proclaiming her love for Naruto comes from that bench scene way back in part 1, I'd be incredibly disappointed. It's just that it feels like it'd be incredibly shallow of her to have something that happened some 600 chapters ago, YEARS ago for them, be the defining factor that makes her decide "Oh, forget Sasuke-kun after all, I love Naruto this whole time". Especially over something as silly as a forehead comment when they were children. If Kishi is going to do NaruSaku, I hope he has a way to do it better than that.

Excellent point. But if Kishi is going to make NS canon before the movie I think the forehead compliment will give her some realization. Naruto was the one who she loved all this time, he was just disguised as Sasuke at the time he complimented her forehead.

 

The end. Pretty lackluster, right? I really don't care anymore, just get this stuff done and over with.

Edited by luffyq1, 28 September 2014 - 06:45 PM.

[Otaru]

To be honest, if Sakura's whole reason for suddenly proclaiming her love for Naruto comes from that bench scene way back in part 1, I'd be incredibly disappointed. It's just that it feels like it'd be incredibly shallow of her to have something that happened some 600 chapters ago, YEARS ago for them, be the defining factor that makes her decide "Oh, forget Sasuke-kun after all, I love Naruto this whole time". Especially over something as silly as a forehead comment when they were children. If Kishi is going to do NaruSaku, I hope he has a way to do it better than that.

 

It has been shown throughout the story that she loved him before.