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#2641 Nate River

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 04:24 PM

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by the way tsundere characters amuses me, they are the essential comic relief in the manga and anime XD


It's a comedic device, but that doesn't mean that the character exhibiting it is comic relief in nature.

I don't think its funny, but that aspect of the character doesn't usually have a huge impact on whether I like the character or not. It depends on the particular story, the character's full range of personality traits, the type of story they are in and so on.

I generally like tsundere characters, but it's usually for other reasons and I don't like them in all instances.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 04:27 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Jul 19 2012, 03:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I want to ask you guys 2 questions.

Why does Sakura exist?

Why does Hinata exist?

Sakura exists because of her heart. Kishimoto focuses so much Sakura's feelings and what she struggles with. It shows how girls can grow into a beautiful woman, with fierce determination and a strong spirit. I also noticed that even if you don't know your path, always make one follow your heart. Our main heroine, she's really someone to follow. I can see why Naruto like her so much, though I haven't seen her for a while. ^^ And if Tsunade can get a closure to her character, so can Sakura. I'm still waiting.

Hinata exist because of Naruto. She admires Naruto, and felt sorry for him when no one else did. Except Iruka, maybe. She's a pairing fodder, she might be something more. I just don't know what. xD

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 04:46 PM

According to Kishimoto himself, Sakura exists because he wanted to create a love interest for the main character. And Hinata exists because he needed more young characters for the Chuunin arc, so he created the teamf of Shikamaru, Kiba and Lee.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 04:58 PM

QUOTE (Jenskott @ Jul 19 2012, 04:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
According to Kishimoto himself, Sakura exists because he wanted to create a love interest for the main character. And Hinata exists because he needed more young characters for the Chuunin arc, so he created the teamf of Shikamaru, Kiba and Lee.


Well, there you have it. And if the words came straight out of Kishimoto's mouth that Sakura's purpose is as a love interest for the main character, then she was never for Sasuke to begin with. Ergo, NS is canon. Yay.
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 05:03 PM

QUOTE (Nate River @ Jul 19 2012, 12:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's a comedic device, but that doesn't mean that the character exhibiting it is comic relief in nature.

I don't think its funny, but that aspect of the character doesn't usually have a huge impact on whether I like the character or not. It depends on the particular story, the character's full range of personality traits, the type of story they are in and so on.

I generally like tsundere characters, but it's usually for other reasons and I don't like them in all instances.

tldr: japan has a weird sense of humor!

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 05:23 PM

QUOTE (pharix @ Jul 19 2012, 12:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
tldr: japan has a weird sense of humor!

Is it true they have restaraunts where women hit men or something? I can see a female hitting a male for doing something stupid, flirting, or something else, but hitting just for the fun of it?

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 05:24 PM

Japan has alot of weird things in general. I think I could literally go on for hours or even days after all the stuff I've witnessed. But that's another discussion for another time.

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Where are you getting this info from? I can't believe anything that I can't look up for myself.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 05:27 PM

QUOTE (PachucoDesigns @ Jul 19 2012, 09:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, there you have it. And if the words came straight out of Kishimoto's mouth that Sakura's purpose is as a love interest for the main character, then she was never for Sasuke to begin with. Ergo, NS is canon. Yay.


YEAH..............so why are we still arguing?

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 05:31 PM

QUOTE (PachucoDesigns @ Jul 19 2012, 04:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, there you have it. And if the words came straight out of Kishimoto's mouth that Sakura's purpose is as a love interest for the main character, then she was never for Sasuke to begin with. Ergo, NS is canon. Yay.

I remember a kishi interview about this but sakura's purpose was to not boe a love interest.
He drawn naruto and sakura first then he draw sasuke that was a opinion of his friend later he wanted to make a rivalry stuff between naruto and sasuke but he said that he didnt knew stuff about rivalry so after some research he put sakura to have a love interest on sasuke and everyone who read the first chapters of the manga the rivalry between naruto and sasuke started because of sakura, with naruto trying to impress her and failing in all his attempts.
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 05:35 PM

Can we all just make a rule stating that "Thou shall not reference an interview without posting a link to the interview in question." I am really tired of people just blindly believing people without knowing if they are lying or not. THIS IS HOW RUMORS START!

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 06:35 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Jul 19 2012, 05:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Can we all just make a rule stating that "Thou shall not reference an interview without posting a link to the interview in question." I am really tired of people just blindly believing people without knowing if they are lying or not. THIS IS HOW RUMORS START!


http://forum.leafnin...topic/330925/1/

K: When I was creating his character, I always kept in mind that Sasuke is
"Naruto's rival". I looked at a lot of manga, and studied rival relationships.
That way, I believe the relationship between Naruto and Sasuke is the greatest
rival relationship.

Edited by dovahkiin, 19 July 2012 - 06:35 PM.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 07:05 PM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Jul 19 2012, 02:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
http://forum.leafnin...topic/330925/1/

K: When I was creating his character, I always kept in mind that Sasuke is
"Naruto's rival". I looked at a lot of manga, and studied rival relationships.
That way, I believe the relationship between Naruto and Sasuke is the greatest
rival relationship.

From that same link:

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- Next, focusing on Sakura. What do you see as the image of a heroine?

K: My idea of a heroine isn't very clear. Because of that, even though I tried
to depict a heroine, it didn't end up like one. "Someone unable to understand
the workings of men..." is the feeling I ended up with.

- Maybe that's what attracts people to Sakura?

K: Maybe. I didn't really make Sakura out to be a "heroine", my point of view
had been that if a somewhat dislikeable character was introduced, I wondered if
it would become interesting... I created Naruto and created Sasuke, the last one
was Sakura. But I think she's a cheerful, good character. The type that wants to
be leader and is energetic and, in front of Sasuke, childlike. That is what I
decided was the way of the keyword Sakura.

- What are Sakura's design points?

K: For one, she has spats (*1) to release her energy. Also, her clothes have
more lines proportionally than other characters', and she also wears as little
accessories as possible. I just design the left-over silhouettes. I wanted to
make her design as simple as possible.

Well that's very interesting. I guess that's why Sakura is not the standard heroine many people want her to be. Kishi didn't want to make her heroic like Naruto is, he wanted a different approach to her character. And he even admits that in the beginning she was meant to be dislikeable.

What I find interesting is that Kishi says that when Sakura is around Sasuke she becomes childlike. In other words, her love for Sasuke represents her emotional immaturity. Maybe her eventually falling in love with Naruto is truly meant to be sent as a message of how much she eventually matures in regards to her own emotions.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 07:06 PM

QUOTE (PachucoDesigns @ Jul 19 2012, 11:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nobody is acting like a fool. You ask why they exist, and that is precisely why they exist. Not every single character has to have a critical function in the story. And any one of the characters, save for the primary protagonist and antagonist, could be done away with if need be. Sakura's function is as the center of the love triangle, and as a supporting character for the hero. Hinata, which is what I'm sure you want to hear, is a driver in one of many sub plots, and serves absolutely no function in the core plot. There is your answer.

In order to be a Triangle Sasuke would have to love Sakura and he DOSE NOT have any romantic fellings toward her whats so ever. so there is no triangle,same with Hinata,Naruto has no romantic feelings for her...Case closed!

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 07:49 PM

QUOTE (dfammer @ Jul 19 2012, 07:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In order to be a Triangle Sasuke would have to love Sakura and he DOSE NOT have any romantic fellings toward her whats so ever. so there is no triangle,same with Hinata,Naruto has no romantic feelings for her...Case closed!


Sasuke cant love sakura for the triangle works, because if sasuke loved sakura naruto could do anything and most of all, the rivalry would not be started.
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 08:20 PM

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Yes if Sasuke and Sakura would be in a relation Naruto will only be seen like a selfish jerk, is like another man trying to get in between Minato and Kushina's love affair.

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Jul 19 2012, 03:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
From that same link:


Well that's very interesting. I guess that's why Sakura is not the standard heroine many people want her to be. Kishi didn't want to make her heroic like Naruto is, he wanted a different approach to her character. And he even admits that in the beginning she was meant to be dislikeable.

What I find interesting is that Kishi says that when Sakura is around Sasuke she becomes childlike. In other words, her love for Sasuke represents her emotional immaturity. Maybe her eventually falling in love with Naruto is truly meant to be sent as a message of how much she eventually matures in regards to her own emotions.


You know sometimes I get confused about some words, but if what you say is correct them this means that only when Sakura gets over Sasuke she will truly mature, this might be an eventual NaruSaku story them.

Edited by NS means logic, 19 July 2012 - 08:24 PM.


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Posted 19 July 2012 - 08:23 PM

QUOTE (NS means logic @ Jul 19 2012, 08:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know sometimes I get confused about some words, but if what you say is correct them this means that only when Sakura gets over Sasuke she will truly mature, this might be an eventual NaruSaku story them.


Actually I have the book with that interview.....

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 08:27 PM

QUOTE (NS means logic @ Jul 19 2012, 04:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know sometimes I get confused about some words, but if what you say is correct them this means that only when Sakura gets over Sasuke she will truly mature, this might be an eventual NaruSaku story them.

Was my post confusing? If you have any questions about it I would gladly answer them.

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Jul 19 2012, 04:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually I have the book with that interview.....

Was it in one of the databooks?

Edited by redragon88, 19 July 2012 - 08:28 PM.


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Posted 19 July 2012 - 08:29 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Jul 19 2012, 09:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Was my post confusing? If you have any questions about it I would gladly answer them.


Was it in one of the databooks?


No....it was in the artbook..the first one smile.gif

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 08:54 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Jul 19 2012, 04:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Was my post confusing? If you have any questions about it I would gladly answer them.


Was it in one of the databooks?


No I was speaking about the interview, I could not make up the meaning of Kishi's word that's why I said that if your interpretation is correct then this story is an eventual NS.


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Does it say anything good about NS?

Edited by NS means logic, 19 July 2012 - 08:55 PM.


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Posted 19 July 2012 - 09:14 PM

QUOTE (NS means logic @ Jul 19 2012, 09:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No I was speaking about the interview, I could not make up the meaning of Kishi's word that's why I said that if your interpretation is correct then this story is an eventual NS.


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Does it say anything good about NS?


Errr...not really....it just talks about her chracter....like her personality and stuff...it's kinda the same that's already been posted....I just have the clear translated version.

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