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#26381 Kaeta

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 08:11 AM

I have to disaggree with dark.Sakura /loves/ Naruto. You can tell by the way she behaves, speaks and thinks of him. She and him, they have a real love imo. They know each other better than anyone and are close to each other, have fun, fight, comfort one another. They truly trust the other one and went through sso much together. The others feeling they put above their own. Naruto's dream became Sakura's. I have to say that the scene in which Naruto was near death imo perfect in order to see the incomparable bond of ns. Sakura thinking in that moment of Naruto's dream is love. Hinata would've mybe thought how they need to be together but that's just selfish and superficial and states to me again that she'll never reachh what ns has oor how sakura feels for naruto.

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 08:20 AM

Naruto is the perfect guy for Sakura. He's exactly what she needs. All it needs for ns to become canon is Naruto's confession. He needs to tell her why he likes her, what he thinks of her and how much he appreciates her with all her flaws (which he does). After that it's set in stone. And that confession is to come.

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 08:27 AM

Kishimoto has a plot that perhaps is already resolved NH or NS probably are canon. For NS Kishimoto 631 the girlfriend thing, Sakura did not deny it. Kishimoto likes flashbacks maybe in the end he shows us that Sakura and Naruto had sort of agreement.

 

For NH 615 probably is more dangerous why? Because all the hold hands and stuff were sort of indirect confession.


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Posted 11 August 2014 - 08:39 AM

Hinata is an important nakama but he doesn't see her in a romantic way. When he held her hand and talked to her and stuff he hadn't in mind that he flirted or told her about his true feelings of love. He did what he'd also do to any other nakama. Tbh naruto and sasuke had more talks you could consider confessions. Kishi even now in the newest chapters shows us how NS rules. He keeps on showing us moments in which sakura thanks only naruto and cares/shouts out to him while naruto keeps on emphasises sakura's importance and his need to protect her.

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 09:52 AM

Naruto(character) is more emotional character rather than rational character like sasuke, shikamaru, sai, garra, and sakura.

Yes that is true. However it doesn't mean Naruto should just throw away his life for Sasuke.


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Posted 11 August 2014 - 10:38 AM

I dislike NaruHina, but my main issue is more with Hinata's characterization than the actual ship. I just want her to move on with her life, accept/realize Naruto doesn't love her, and focus on what she should already be focusing on: getting stronger for her Clan and gaining leadership skills so her father wouldn't have to be ashamed of her.
 
He's dead now, but Neji still would've been a better leader than her. He was detached while Hinata is still too emotional and spends more time chasing after boys than paying any attention to her Clan role. Hinata is not what she could be and to see her so with such lack of priorities is frustrating. What's even more frustrating is that fans praise her for it when all Hinata is is still a Naruto fangirl. Just a shyer version of Part 1 Sakura with Sasuke really.
 
Hinata's love annoys me because there's no purpose to it. It's not going to get anywhere, Naruto clearly doesn't like her, and to see her still chasing after him (whether out of ignorance or desperation) is sad. I'm tired of seeing it when she doesn't think right of anything else. She's so unfocused when it comes to her love for Naruto, how can people like this? :fist:
 
I don't have anything against the trope of NH. I've shipped a similar couple where a particularly gentle girl fell in love with the hero, saw his natural talent before most while a hot-tempered girl hated him. Then he fell for the hot-tempered girl because she eventually acknowledged him and even spend years being there for him as a close friend first while the other was away. Very similar basis to NaruSaku/NaruHina. The gentle girl gave up on a future with him, but never stopped loving him.
 
But you know what's the difference between that ship and NH? The shy, gentle girl didn't put him above duty and even though she realized the hero didn't love her, she pushed him towards the other girl because she knew he would be happy with her and she could give him things that she couldn't. Then that gentle girl died protecting her 'rival' because she wanted her to make the person they both loved happy.
 
If Hinata was like this---selfless, not blind to other people around them, aware of important duty---then I wouldn't be so unsatisfied with NH and Hinata as I am. I just hope she wakes up and adopts these similar elements of that particular character so I can be a little more proud of her and her growth.
 
Every relationship has a specific trope or similar basis. But when put in the hands of different authors, the credibility and values of the ship can very different.

What show/manga/whatever were these characters on? It sounds interesting, I'd like to know about it.

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 11:35 AM

I don’t understand this anger hold against SP concerning NS/NH. I admit that they favor Hinata, but that’s all. They never dismissed NS to favor NH (and don’t start with the last episode, Naruto just said “Hinata”). On the contrary, they tend to favor NS everytime there is an occasion to do so (Naruto’s training for Rasenshuriken, Naruto stating how much he loves Sakura and would be the happiest man if she happened to reciprocate his feelings, Sakura “used to love” Sasuke). What have they done to NH that could top all these filler moments? Hinata displaying how much she loves Naruto. That’s all. Naruto never implied he had feelings for Hinata, like Sakura did for Naruto in the anime. 

The only time they really screw up with over favoring Hinata was the confession episode, that's all. 

 

Actually they do favor both nh and hinata remember what they did in pain arc confession? They glossed up hinata and extended her fight scene meanwhile the kyubbi vs pain got loony tunes like animation. Another thing i noticed is that they tryed to tone down sakuras facial expression when naruto went to 6 tails. This favorism is still going on In the war arc. They changed sakuras face expression this proves how bias the animation team are towards nh. They try to make any ns moment as nothing more than dull caring which isn't entirely true in the manga.  :ermm:

 

As for the first underlined statement In the recent anime episode naruto has shown more impression towards hinata then anyone else when in actually he was impressed by everyone. That's telling me that studio perrot is trying to imply that naruto might have feelings for hinata. Once again this proves that studio perrot favors nh and the toned down sakura expression shows how they are willing to discard any ns moments.

 

Oh and heres the loony tunes like animation of pein vs 6 tails fight.

 


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Posted 11 August 2014 - 12:03 PM

Actually they do favor both nh and hinata remember what they did in pain arc confession? They glossed up hinata and extended her fight scene meanwhile the kyubbi vs pain got loony tunes like animation. Another thing i noticed is that they tryed to tone down sakuras facial expression when naruto went to 6 tails. This favorism is still going on In the war arc. They changed sakuras face expression this proves how bias the animation team are towards nh. They try to make any ns moment as nothing more than dull caring which isn't entirely true in the manga.  :ermm:
 
As for the first underlined statement In the recent anime episode naruto has shown more impression towards hinata then anyone else when in actually he was impressed by everyone. That's telling me that studio perrot is trying to imply that naruto might have feelings for hinata. Once again this proves that studio perrot favors nh and the toned down sakura expression shows how they are willing to discard any ns moments.
 
Oh and heres the loony tunes like animation of pein vs 6 tails fight.
 

Damn, Pein is smexy.
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Posted 11 August 2014 - 12:46 PM

Damn, Pein is smexy.

I think you are gonna love this then 

 

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 01:01 PM

I think you are gonna love this then 
 
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Uh oh, I can feel a nosebleed.
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Posted 11 August 2014 - 01:03 PM

I think you are gonna love this then 

 

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(Yahiko)he was more handsome when he was alive


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Posted 11 August 2014 - 01:30 PM

(Yahiko)he was more handsome when he was alive                                                           

 

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This picture reminds me an awful lot of both Jiraiya and Naruto.


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Posted 11 August 2014 - 01:32 PM

 

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This picture reminds me an awful lot of both Jiraiya and Naruto.

i can't see it's broken 


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Posted 11 August 2014 - 01:35 PM

I always thought Yahiko was related, but turns out it's just a small parallel look alike. I remember one anime (I want to say Pokemon) said one character look similar but my god, nothing look close to the character. This one really does look close. I guess that's why people thought Pain was Naruto's brother or something.

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 01:39 PM

yahiko looks like juugo to me i thought they were releated but they weren't


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Posted 11 August 2014 - 01:51 PM

i can't see it's broken 

Still?

 

I always thought Yahiko was related, but turns out it's just a small parallel look alike. I remember one anime (I want to say Pokemon) said one character look similar but my god, nothing look close to the character. This one really does look close. I guess that's why people thought Pain was Naruto's brother or something.

I know right? So similar! Even Nawaki and younger Obito.

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 01:55 PM

Still?

 

I know right? So similar! Even Nawaki and younger Obito.

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now i can see thanks.They have that big smile 


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Posted 11 August 2014 - 02:07 PM

Not to mention Minato and Jiraiya has that special smile. Must be Naruto's parallel genes.

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 02:11 PM

Not to mention Minato and Jiraiya has that special smile. Must be Naruto's parallel genes.

Why is Kishimoto such a huge fan of parallel looks and expressions I wonder? Maybe because its easier to draw.


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Posted 11 August 2014 - 02:15 PM

Why is Kishimoto such a huge fan of parallel looks and expressions I wonder? Maybe because its easier to draw.

I think he's just symbolic of a guy that he probably sees himself a symbol. Lol.




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