One Piece discussion thread
#2621
Posted 04 August 2015 - 09:39 PM
Luffy 550 to 600
Zoro: 350
Robin: 120
Franky: 120 to 140
Usopp: don't care about Usopp
Law: 500
Sabo: 550 to 600

"I am the One-Eyed King."
#2622
Posted 04 August 2015 - 09:56 PM
Luffy 550 to 600
Sabo: 550 to 600
*yells at you Sabo is stronger atm*
Sabo: 600-850
Luffy: 500-550
Law: 450-500
Zoro: 300-350
Sanji: 170-220
Robin: 100-120
Franky: 80-110
Usopp: 60-100
Brooks: 60-100
Nami: 30-60
Chopper: 50beli-10mil
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Vinsmoke "Black Leg" Sanji
#2623
Posted 04 August 2015 - 10:06 PM
There's no reason to believe that Sabo is stronger than Luffy. None at all.

"I am the One-Eyed King."
#2624
Posted 04 August 2015 - 10:15 PM
I was just doing the group that was actually at Dressrosa, I agree with your amounts for the Curly Hat pirates
I'm just not sure if they'll get raised bounties, as they weren't there for the majority of the time.
There's no reason to believe that Sabo is stronger than Luffy. None at all.
The government knows they all disappeared to train for 2 years. Not only that, but they are members of the strongest worst generation supernova. They would be fools to think Franky is stronger than Sanji. They knew he was the crews 3rd strongest, and he was gone for 2 years like the rest of them. Not to mention Tashigi saw Sanji fight.
Sabo is the right hand man of the man with the highest bounty. He was that before eating a powerful devil fruit. Luffy will surpass Sabo like he'll surpass the Yonkos and his father, but for now Sabo is slightly stronger. However, just like Ace, his bounty is about 100 million more than it should be because of who he works under.
Left Hand to the Future Pirate King
Vinsmoke "Black Leg" Sanji
#2625
Posted 04 August 2015 - 10:40 PM

"I am the One-Eyed King."
#2626
Posted 04 August 2015 - 10:43 PM
I expect Usopp's Bounty to take a massive leap, because he now has a army of pirates willing to follow him. even Doflomingo placed a 500Million bounty on his head, higher than the Luffy and Law. I wouln't be surprised if his bounty jumped above Zoro, it would be hilarious.
#2627
Posted 04 August 2015 - 10:47 PM
Just because he's the right hand doesn't mean that he's stronger than Luffy. Daz Bones is Crocodiles right hand, is he stronger than Luffy? There is nothing that has been shown to state that Luffy is weaker than Sabo, nor has anything been presented that implies Sabo has anything that can counter Luffy, especially Gear 4. Doflamingo went head to head with Fujitora, just as Sabo did, and Doflamingo came out fine, just as Sabo did, yet Doflaming got embarrassed by Luffy in G4. Sabo might not be any stronger than Doflamingo, from what we've seen, and honestly, it didn't look like he was. There is no reason to think that Sabo can contend with G4. Him being Dragon's right hand is irrelevant.
Why do you think that Luffy is OMG strong for the new world? He didn't do anything to show that he stronger than Sabo, he got lucky with Doffy just because he is MC, Doffy owned him bunch of times and even standed against his G4 for 30 minutes. Sabo is №2 man in Dragons army not for empty words, he wiped floor with Burgerss, fought with Admiral and got out pretty fine.
And prises for heads given by how dangerous pirate is, not by how strong he is.
#2628
Posted 04 August 2015 - 10:47 PM
Just because he's the right hand doesn't mean that he's stronger than Luffy. Daz Bones is Crocodiles right hand, is he stronger than Luffy? There is nothing that has been shown to state that Luffy is weaker than Sabo, nor has anything been presented that implies Sabo has anything that can counter Luffy, especially Gear 4. Doflamingo went head to head with Fujitora, just as Sabo did, and Doflamingo came out fine, just as Sabo did, yet Doflaming got embarrassed by Luffy in G4. Sabo might not be any stronger than Doflamingo, from what we've seen, and honestly, it didn't look like he was. There is no reason to think that Sabo can contend with G4. Him being Dragon's right hand is irrelevant.
Are you comparing Crocodile to Dragon and Daz Bones to Sabo? xD
Sabo has spent years being trained by Dragon. If he isn't at least a little stronger than Luffy after eating Ace's fruit, then Dragon isn't at Yonko level.
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Vinsmoke "Black Leg" Sanji
#2629
Posted 04 August 2015 - 10:59 PM
Why do you think that Luffy is OMG strong for the new world? He didn't do anything to show that he stronger than Sabo, he got lucky with Doffy just because he is MC, Doffy owned him bunch of times and even standed against his G4 for 30 minutes. Sabo is №2 man in Dragons army not for empty words, he wiped floor with Burgerss, fought with Admiral and got out pretty fine.
And prises for heads given by how dangerous pirate is, not by how strong he is.
Lol I don't, there are plenty of people that Luffy wouldn't stand a chance against, but Sabo isn't one of them. You know, for all your Doflamingo hype, I'm still waiting for you to show me a panel that has Doflamingo landing a successful attack on Luffy while Luffy was in gear 4
Doflamingo stood up to Fujitora and walked away without a scratch, but got embarrassed by Luffy. Burgess wouldn't last a minute vs Luffy either. The only thing you have is that he's Dragon's second, but that literally means nothing. There is nothing Sabo has done to show that he would be any stronger than nothing.
Not at all, but the whole No.2 thing is the only argument you've actually presented, but it doesn't mean much. Cool, Sabo spent time training with Dragon. Luffy spent time training with Rayleigh. It doesn't mean that Luffy could walk over Kaido. Ace's fruit is a non-factor, considering that it wouldn't help him keep up with Luffy's speed much, and that if he expands himself, there's more room for Luffy to hit. Doflamingo had a fruit that could actually do significant damage to Luffy by its own merit, Ace's fruit really doesn't have that ability.Are you comparing Crocodile to Dragon and Daz Bones to Sabo? xD
Sabo has spent years being trained by Dragon. If he isn't at least a little stronger than Luffy after eating Ace's fruit, then Dragon isn't at Yonko level.

"I am the One-Eyed King."
#2630
Posted 04 August 2015 - 11:10 PM
Lol I don't, there are plenty of people that Luffy wouldn't stand a chance against, but Sabo isn't one of them. You know, for all your Doflamingo hype, I'm still waiting for you to show me a panel that has Doflamingo landing a successful attack on Luffy while Luffy was in gear 4
Doflamingo stood up to Fujitora and walked away without a scratch, but got embarrassed by Luffy. Burgess wouldn't last a minute vs Luffy either. The only thing you have is that he's Dragon's second, but that literally means nothing. There is nothing Sabo has done to show that he would be any stronger than nothing.
Where did Doffy got embrassed, he was beaten up, yes, but "embrassed"? Only because Luffy was physicaly stronger, doesn't mean he was "stronger" in a whole meaning of this, he lost in endurance and would be killed without plot armor. Don't get wrong idea, I consider Doffy strong, but he's not near the highest tier in new world, and Luffy couldn't even win against him in a normal way, and no matter how strong are delussions of "Luffy clearly owned Doffy" or whatever - he's not, Luffy need bigger moves for Yonko, because he barely got DD with G4.
#2631
Posted 04 August 2015 - 11:25 PM
He got embarrassed because when Luffy pulled out G4, Doflamingo tried everything, including his trump card (the awakening), and still couldn't land even a single hit against Luffy. Not a single hit. Why do you think Doflamingo was so angry? He was getting embarrassed and he knew it.Where did Doffy got embrassed, he was beaten up, yes, but "embrassed"? Only because Luffy was physicaly stronger, doesn't mean he was "stronger" in a whole meaning of this, he lost in endurance and would be killed without plot armor. Don't get wrong idea, I consider Doffy strong, but he's not near the highest tier in new world, and Luffy couldn't even win against him in a normal way, and no matter how strong are delussions of "Luffy clearly owned Doffy" or whatever - he's not, Luffy need bigger moves for Yonko, because he barely got DD with G4.
Edited by AHK, 04 August 2015 - 11:25 PM.

"I am the One-Eyed King."
#2632
Posted 04 August 2015 - 11:25 PM
Where did Doffy got embrassed, he was beaten up, yes, but "embrassed"? Only because Luffy was physicaly stronger, doesn't mean he was "stronger" in a whole meaning of this, he lost in endurance and would be killed without plot armor. Don't get wrong idea, I consider Doffy strong, but he's not near the highest tier in new world, and Luffy couldn't even win against him in a normal way, and no matter how strong are delussions of "Luffy clearly owned Doffy" or whatever - he's not, Luffy need bigger moves for Yonko, because he barely got DD with G4.
Anger is a form of embarrassment.
#2633
Posted 04 August 2015 - 11:26 PM
Anger is a form of embarrassment.
:O
Really? I didn't know that ![]()
#2634
Posted 04 August 2015 - 11:47 PM
:O
Really? I didn't know that
"Anger can be substituted to avoid the more painful feelings of embarrassment and humiliation. Anger can be "used" to shut down the internal bad feelings of vulnerability and helplessness, as anger is a more comfortable emotion to feel. And it works! Anger can also be "used" to intimidate and force the other person to back off and stop their criticism."
Doffy literally does this
Edited by Fyuria'sLeo, 04 August 2015 - 11:47 PM.
#2635
Posted 05 August 2015 - 12:13 AM
"Anger can be substituted to avoid the more painful feelings of embarrassment and humiliation. Anger can be "used" to shut down the internal bad feelings of vulnerability and helplessness, as anger is a more comfortable emotion to feel. And it works! Anger can also be "used" to intimidate and force the other person to back off and stop their criticism."
Doffy literally does this
Anger. Something Leo shows when I already took the best girl (Papi) in Monster Musume from him.
Plot kept Doflamingo alive. Luffy was beating him up, but Oda made him run out of haki with a millisecond left for plot. Like with how in boxing movies the guy always gets up right before the 10 count.
Left Hand to the Future Pirate King
Vinsmoke "Black Leg" Sanji
#2636
Posted 05 August 2015 - 12:19 AM
Anger. Something Leo shows when I already took the best girl (Papi) in Monster Musume from him.
Plot kept Doflamingo alive. Luffy was beating him up, but Oda made him run out of haki with a millisecond left for plot. Like with how in boxing movies the guy always gets up right before the 10 count.
Listen m8, papi is not best girl. Rachnera is!
And for once I agree with what you, Doffy got plot armor till the final moment.
Edited by Fyuria'sLeo, 05 August 2015 - 12:23 AM.
#2637
Posted 05 August 2015 - 12:26 AM
Listen m8, papi is not best girl. Rachnera is!
And for one I agree with what you, Doffy got plot armor till the final moment.
Pssshhhh.
But yeah. Taking nothing away from Doflamingo, as he is extremely strong. In fact Luffy deserves a bounty of 600 million for beating him. Why? Because Doflamingo is much stronger than Ace, and Ace's bounty was 550 million. However we know he'll only get a bounty of like 500 million. Oda has a fetish for making Ace seem much stronger than he actually was. I know Oda was trying to hide haki, but he should of given Ace all 3 types, not just a little of 1.
Left Hand to the Future Pirate King
Vinsmoke "Black Leg" Sanji
#2638
Posted 05 August 2015 - 05:46 AM
This is gonna sound like a dumb question, but when do you guys think we're gonna get another One Piece Movie?
I feel like this question was already answered.

THAT'S WHAT HEROES DO, THEY SAVE PEOPLE!!
#2640
Posted 05 August 2015 - 03:23 PM
This is gonna sound like a dumb question, but when do you guys think we're gonna get another One Piece Movie?
I feel like this question was already answered.
Not stupid at all~
Someone leaked a trailer and at the end on the trailer it said 2015
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