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[TouKen4Life3g]

I kinda see kishi doing this, really.
Remember in part 1 Shika saying about Naruto that he would never make a main character in a story, or something like that.So he could do this with Sakura also, hehe.

I know, that's the point. Lol.

[Inferno180]

Guess it would be more reasonable to say with the impending chapter this week or next week, we should see a climax, like in the last volume, the climax was in the flashback, when Hashirama "killed" Madara and he himself stated that even if it was his own brother, child, or even wife, if they threatened the village, he would kill them to protect the peace that not only he and Madara wanted, but something that protected everyone.

 

I'm guessing this week we may get some sort of 'dual' narration kinda like in 630 from both Sakura and Kakashi's speeches, it flopped between them for a bit. In this one I expect Tsunade to be seen (obviously) but as Tsunade and Orochmaru speak, it will also show Sasuke back at the battlefield and reveal his motives. Either way the notion of what Orochimaru himself, Jugo, and now Sai, only seeing Sasuke for the second time and Jugo for the first, is still able to ask and seek a simple statement, Sai is able to understand emotion when he sees it. This will impact Sakura though, if the motive turns out to be something like Madara's ideals back in the flashback, its something Sakura would not want any part in especially if its something that conflicts with Naruto, beyond just the hokage ordeal.

[Lalufuffy]

To certain extent. You can pinpoint the pairing, but don't bash the fans or pairing to the extreme. Give a reasonable reason to bring them up, like for example: "I don't understand why people see Hinata as a heroine. She doesn't have that real quality of it. It's not her fault, she's not made that way." And so forth. Don't just bash because you want to, give it a good reason why you bring it up.

Welcome to H&E. ^_^

 

Alright, thank you. It does make sense to more or less ignore the opposing pairings, at this point. All the good arguments have been used over and over again. The most important and obvious Minato x Kushina and NaruSaku parallel (484 and 501) pretty much resolved things back then. 

Anyway, do you people think that Sakura will be able to use Kisho Tensei at the end? I mean without sacrificing herself. 

She could use and combine the chakra of the alliance or something like that. IMO it's quite likely that Sasuke or Naruto will die. 

 

Edited by Lalufuffy, 16 June 2013 - 10:14 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Pain is for Naruto to deal with. If she were to fight him, there isn't going to be much of a challenge for Naruto and other stuff. I'm talking story perspective for the protagonist.

 

Her fight with Madara has shown some abilities with a technique that she could do. The other Kages shown one type of ability and that's it. They were all fighting with strength. There isn't always a new technique or ability in every single fight for every single character. You basically want Sakura all the time to be head on fighting, gaining some of Naruto's and Sasuke's long ranged attack and to be sure that she's on a Kage level ?... The battle didn't end and possibly we'll see Sakura fighting more in this battle, so hope that all that you want from Sakura to happen to really happen.

 

So, in order for Sakura to not be considered sidelined, she has to show offensive skills every time in this fight... Then I can say when Naruto was being healed, shown talking with his dad and other times that he wasn't fighting in a fight that he was sidelined.

Dont come with Pain is for Naruto to deal with, she was going to attack Pain on he very end and knew she would lose then Naruto came and saved everyone.
About Sakura she doenst have other offensive skills and neither a strong defensive skill, it's just supporting and healing nothing else. look at Tsunade she got cut in half even with her ability that gives a strong regeneration.

She's not on kage's level neither Tsunade, Tsunade seems to me like a fake kage who's waiting for the moment where Naruto takes the spot.
Tsunade didnt become hokage because of her strenght but rather because neither Kakashi or Jiraiya wanted to become hokage.

 

Sakura is the only one who got "new" powers while all the others only completed their jutsus which is not some kind of powerup.

 

You're missing the point, i said she's not on kage's level, i'm not sayign she has to fight all the time but i'm pointing out her lack of resources.
I just disagreeing with the fact that there are people pointed out that she's on kage's level when i say she's not.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 16 June 2013 - 11:17 PM.

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Wait I cant remember did Sakura say "i love you Naruto" during the confession?

[rocci]

Dont come with Pain is for Naruto to deal with, she was going to attack Pain on he very end and knew she would lose then Naruto came and saved everyone.
About Sakura she doenst have other offensive skills and neither a strong defensive skill, it's just supporting and healing nothing else. look at Tsunade she got cut in half even with her ability that gives a strong regeneration.
She's not on kage's level neither Tsunade, Tsunade seems to me like a fake kage who's waiting for the moment where Naruto takes the spot.
Tsunade didnt become hokage because of her strenght but rather because neither Kakashi or Jiraiya wanted to become hokage.
 
Sakura is the only one who got "new" powers while all the others only completed their jutsus which is not some kind of powerup.
 
You're missing the point, i said she's not on kage's level, i'm not sayign she has to fight all the time but i'm pointing out her lack of resources.
I just disagreeing with the fact that there are people pointed out that she's on kage's level when i say she's not.

And I think A isn't a kage level either because his puch is weaker than tsunade(say madara) and slower than minato(say himself). He need even a buff from onoki and tsunade, and he don't have black lightning. And he's from the strongest village.

And tsunade is kage level. If kakashi(the jack of all tread) can become and consider by shikaku as hokage candidat, why tsunade can't?

[Zatheko]

Wait I cant remember did Sakura say "i love you Naruto" during the confession?

Well yeah, other wise it wouldn't be a confession lol

[Chatte]

Dont come with Pain is for Naruto to deal with, she was going to attack Pain on he very end and knew she would lose then Naruto came and saved everyone.
About Sakura she doenst have other offensive skills and neither a strong defensive skill, it's just supporting and healing nothing else. look at Tsunade she got cut in half even with her ability that gives a strong regeneration.

She's not on kage's level neither Tsunade, Tsunade seems to me like a fake kage who's waiting for the moment where Naruto takes the spot.
Tsunade didnt become hokage because of her strenght but rather because neither Kakashi or Jiraiya wanted to become hokage.

 

Sakura is the only one who got "new" powers while all the others only completed their jutsus which is not some kind of powerup.

 

You're missing the point, i said she's not on kage's level, i'm not sayign she has to fight all the time but i'm pointing out her lack of resources.
I just disagreeing with the fact that there are people pointed out that she's on kage's level when i say she's not.

What do you think Kage level is? Really now...

Your discrediting these two girls way too much. There are some plot reasons here that this and that didn't happened. But both Tsunade and Sakura are easily Kage level.

May I remind you that Tsunade was second best after Onoki in this war and if it wouldn't be for them, the damage done to Madara would've been less or at all.

[megi]

Tsunade is one of the most powerful ninjas in the Naruto universe. She is no fake Kage. Sakura was trained under Tsunade, who has been pointer out as one who will be able to surpass Tsunade. You do not give these two enough credit.

Sakura's skill sets are very different than Naruto and Sasuke but it doesn't make her less powerful

[Lalufuffy]

OMG only two more days and we'll probably see whether or not Sakura still has lingering feelings for Sasuke, which I highly doubt.

Chapter 540 and her blushing in 632 (you really need reading-glasses to see that so it can't be that important) are pretty weak arguments against NS. 

This is something I posted in another forum:

 

That blushing in 632 is an automatic reaction. She doesn't actually choose to blush. It's totally inferior compared to her rational expression in 634 (page 20, panel 5). On page 15 (panels 9,10,11) she has a confident smile and tears (because of the positive team 7 thing) and only 5 pages later her expression is confident in a completely different way. Her mind dominates her thoughts.

Her image of Sasuke in chapter 540 is also an automatic reaction, it's just there, she doesn't choose to think about him in a negative way. He broke her heart so it comes naturally. 
But at the end of 634 her mind is suppressing her emotions.

 

Some people think that her rational mind is not important in that matter. 

Edited by Lalufuffy, 17 June 2013 - 10:35 AM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

And I think A isn't a kage level either because his puch is weaker than tsunade(say madara) and slower than minato(say himself). He need even a buff from onoki and tsunade, and he don't have black lightning. And he's from the strongest village.

And tsunade is kage level. If kakashi(the jack of all tread) can become and consider by shikaku as hokage candidat, why tsunade can't?

Tsunade is not on kage's level.

Minato has strong defensive and strong offensive skill with his Thunder god technique, strong supportive skills with his seals.

Naruto is basically complete but doesnt have healing.

Sakura nad Tsunade is nowhere near, she only has one offensive skill with his her brute strenght, she doenst have speed, she doesnt have a strong defense, she only has strong supportive defensive skills with her healing and her summon.

 

About A, he has a high speed, and relies on that, his lighting shield serves as defense and even as offensive, he's a balanced on that, you cant touch him when he's with his shield activated, he only lacks ranged attacks, which is overrided by his high speed.

Hokage candidat doesnt mean kage's level you know very well the deal they made for tsunade to be hokage, none of the stronger ninjas of the village(that are on kage's level) wanted to be one.

I think you're not undestanding the difference that not being on kage's level doesnt mean she's weak.

 

@megi yes it makes her less powerfull, due to the lack of options and  this affect the strategies that she can adopt.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 17 June 2013 - 10:41 AM.

[Chatte]

Darkrest I think you're underestimating them very much. They have a figthing style particular to them and upon that fighting style both of them build strategies on how to take down the enemy. They have both shown extreme intelligence, being able to deceive their opponent. Some battles went the way they went because there is a plot that must happen, however, not considering them Kage level I consider it to be a high underestimation coming from your part.

But I guess to each his own.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Darkrest I think you're underestimating them very much. They have a figthing style particular to them and upon that fighting style both of them build strategies on how to take down the enemy. They have both shown extreme intelligence, being able to deceive their opponent. Some battles went the way they went because there is a plot that must happen, however, not considering them Kage level I consider it to be a high underestimation coming from your part.

But I guess to each his own.

I only see Sakura and Tsunade doing the same strategy, healing first when everyone is not being capable to win she joins the fray, Tsunade did that against Madara and lose due to the fact she remained back supporting the other kages when all of them excluding A could not keep fighting and then she got cut in half, i dont think Sakura will be able to have other strategy if she doenst have more jutsus or other resources.

[milan kyuubi]

I hope the next chapter will resolve Sakura's thoughts on Sasuke. Because it will really demage Sakura's character if Kishi waits until the end to resolve parings.

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Of course they are unstoppable. They are from HeavenEarth afterall, no argument will work on them. No matter how good and reasonable it would be. Why are you even bothering to argue with them, that is the question?? NO PERSONAL OFFENCE!!!

 

 

HeavenEarth is their forum comunity? I've never been there or read any post from there. You are right, but sometimes I can't stop myself from reply to them.
I'm not offended =)

 

That´s an over biased NaruSaku community. Poor Hinata, they totally ripped her apart

I also suspect that Sonfaro is from there.

 

I imagine how they rmust rip and bash Hinata character there.
The same goes to Sasuke, they are crossing fingers to see him death or turning the most evil person in the manga -.-'
One of the most hilarious quotes from them was that Naruto was with a piss off at Hinata in the volume cover 64 and they were just transfering chakra.

 

But I shouldn't be to suprized. When they think Sasuke trying to kill Sakura is a positive sasusaku (they also claim that it doesn't cont since he was "crazy" then. But it's not right now. Lol as you can be crazy whenever you want) They also think naruhina/sausaku is canon for sure.

 

I read post like Sakura was finally redemed powerwise, but now she needs to reedem herself personality wise. I means just what?

Edited by milan kyuubi, 17 June 2013 - 12:02 PM.

[Inferno180]

I hope the next chapter will resolve Sakura's thoughts on Sasuke. Because it will really demage Sakura's character if Kishi waits until the end to resolve parings.

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But I shouldn't be to suprized. When they think Sasuke trying to kill Sakura is a positive sasusaku (they also claim that it doesn't cont since he was "crazy" then. But it's not right now. Lol as you can be crazy whenever you want) They also think naruhina/sausaku is canon for sure.

 

I read post like Sakura was finally redemed powerwise, but now she needs to reedem herself personality wise. I means just what?

 

Obviously others would view this site like that, just because we like NaruSaku they think we are all automatically inclined to hate Hinata. We don't hate Hinata, to most we just don't like how over precepted she is when people think she has done more then she really has. Its like she does 2 things and they try to make it so she somehow did 20, thats the thing. But oh wait, its again okay for any fan to rip on Sakura and not Hinata, the most common double standard in this fandom. Not to mention most sites actually allow the whole Sakura bashing deal. Its funny how many don't even actually read our site before coming here to see what its all about. I mean there is rules against bashing other fandoms here, but most assume we don't care because we have a different OTP. Guess we should say sorry for having different opinions?

[Don-kun]

I only see Sakura and Tsunade doing the same strategy, healing first when everyone is not being capable to win she joins the fray, Tsunade did that against Madara and lose due to the fact she remained back supporting the other kages when all of them excluding A could not keep fighting and then she got cut in half, i dont think Sakura will be able to have other strategy if she doenst have more jutsus or other resources.

Men this is nonsense almost every characters use the same Jutsu there are some like Itachi, Madara and Shikamaru that are always creating something new but that doesn't mean everyone else in the Manga does, so it would be nice if you stop downplaying Sakura and worst TSunade since she is one of the most power full Female fighter in the Manga and we all know Sakura will be a lot stronger than her.

 

No offense but something you act like if Sakura only role in this Manga is to be Naruto's wife and anything else she display are just irrelevant in your eye.  Maybe I'm wrong but this is the impression I usually get after reading some of your post.

 

Just a question, lets say NS does not happen but SS does, will you bash Sakura character or you will only be disappointed at Kishimoto's decision?

 

 

I hope the next chapter will resolve Sakura's thoughts on Sasuke. Because it will really demage Sakura's character if Kishi waits until the end to resolve parings.

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But I shouldn't be to suprized. When they think Sasuke trying to kill Sakura is a positive sasusaku (they also claim that it doesn't cont since he was "crazy" then. But it's not right now. Lol as you can be crazy whenever you want) They also think naruhina/sausaku is canon for sure.

 

I read post like Sakura was finally redemed powerwise, but now she needs to reedem herself personality wise. I means just what?

Since others are not letting you know about this behavior I will tell you.

 

Fandom bashing is against the rules, character bashing is against the rules and Quoting other post, videos, etc from another fandom just to mock them is also against the rules.

Edited by Don-kun, 17 June 2013 - 12:50 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Men this is nonsense almost every characters use the same Jutsu there are some like Itachi, Madara and Shikamaru that are always creating something new but that doesn't mean everyone else in the Manga does, so it would be nice if you stop downplaying Sakura and worst TSunade since she is one of the most power full Female fighter in the Manga and we all know Sakura will be a lot stronger than her.

 

No offense but something you act like if Sakura only role in this Manga is to be Naruto's wife and anything else she display are just irrelevant in your eye.  Maybe I'm wrong but this is the impression I usually get after reading some of your post.

 

Just a question, lets say NS does not happen but SS does, will you bash Sakura character or you will only be disappointed at Kishimoto's decision?

 

 

Why being critic of Sakura's powers make me someome who's bashing her or dislike her character, as i stated before i'm not a fan of her character and neither dislike her, why would i bash Sakura's character for not being powerfull when there's no female character who's powerfull?

Even Naruto's mom got sidelined i'm saying is that Kishimoto didnt used her potential.
It's kinda obvious that the slug sage mdoe would be better suitable to her rather than the byakugou seal, because the sage mode would enhance all of her atributes, her healing jutsu and would give her mroe strategies to adopt even getting close to Naruto since due to her own chakra control she would be capable of making a better use of the sage mode than Naruto.
She would be a great healer more than with her byakugou seal, would be on kage's level, surpass Tsunade and would have more strategies to adopt.

I only disagreeing with the people who said she was on kage's level.

I'm not bashing her character and this has nothing to do with pairings i didnt even talked about pairings here.

 

And to finish yes i believe her role is more romance than being strong and 632 proved me that, her character concept which was to make the rivalry between Naruto and Sasuke more strong also states that, the fact that most of the romance scenes of the manga has Sakura involved also states that, now saying the other things are irrelevant is an assumption you're doing.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 17 June 2013 - 01:01 PM.

[Don-kun]

Why being critic of Sakura's powers make me someome who's bashing her or dislike her character, as i stated before i'm not a fan of her character and neither dislike her, why would i bash Sakura's character for not being powerfull when there's no female character who's powerfull?

Even Naruto's mom got sidelined i'm saying is that Kishimoto didnt used her potential.
It's kinda obvious that the slug sage mdoe would be better suitable to her rather than the byakugou seal, because the sage mode would enhance all of her atributes, her healing jutsu and would give her mroe strategies to adopt even getting close to Naruto since due to her own chakra control she would be capable of making a better use of the sage mode than Naruto.
She would be a great healer more than with her byakugou seal, would be on kage's level, surpass Tsunade and would have more strategies to adopt.

I only disagreeing with the people who said she was on kage's level.

I'm not bashing her character and this has nothing to do with pairings i didnt even talked about pairings here.

 

And to finish yes i believe her role is more romance than being strong and 632 proved me that, her character concept which was to make the rivalry between Naruto and Sasuke more strong also states that, the fact that most of the romance scenes of the manga has Sakura involved also states that, now saying the other things are irrelevant is an assumption you're doing.

Where in my post I said you were bashing her?

I ask you to stop downplaying her power since the girl is very strong right now, it would be nice if we can acknowledge the new improve Sakura for once.

[HauntedCake]

I wonder if 631 will come at a cost, maybe SS seen as SS has not had any pairing moment for ages might get something....

[Lalufuffy]

I wonder if 631 will come at a cost, maybe SS seen as SS has not had any pairing moment for ages might get something....

 

I highly doubt it. Something really tragic has been hinted towards since chapter 631. Let's take the title of chapter 632 for example. 

After the ominous foreshadowing in 634 you can basically rename it from 'Fighting, Side by Side' to 'Fighting, Side by Side, for the last time'.

Sakura has  a really confident expression on the last page of 634 (panel 5). It's obvious that she's ready to go against Sasuke for sure, this time. Strong but unpredictable people don't belong on the battlefield.

And it's not like there aren't enough strong ninjas on the battlefield right now. 

 

Furthermore, if Sasuke really cared about Sakura he would turn off his Sharingan and stop utilizing his hatred to get enhanced Jutsus. I think that's what Sakura realized at the end of 634, but maybe I'm wrong.

I know she didn't see Sasuke's face after the attack on the Juubi, but I'm sure her intuition tells her 

that something is wrong with him.

He should apologize to her instead, for having caused her pain for such a long time.

Edited by Lalufuffy, 17 June 2013 - 02:22 PM.