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#2621 Sakamaki Izayoi

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 11:17 AM

QUOTE (Branden @ Jul 19 2012, 11:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the majority of us acknowledge that. I personally think that if Sakura is ever going to grow up she needs to give up her love for Sasuke, not Sasuke entirely. I still think Sakura should actively try to save Sasuke along with Naruto since at this point it looks like Naruto and Sakura are the only 2 people in the series that still have faith that he can be brought back from the dark side.


Sorry but naruto is the only one the reason why sakura doesnt give up is naruto who insists on trying to save sasuke, she already accepted it until naruto comes and make that retard speech.
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 11:40 AM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Jul 19 2012, 04:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry but naruto is the only one the reason why sakura doesnt give up is naruto who insists on trying to save sasuke, she already accepted it until naruto comes and make that retard speech.

It's not like he had a choice. He cannot physically or mentally give up on anything he's set his mind to. It's not a choice with him, he has 1 option which he works towards without hesitation. This is actually a very popular characteristic to have in a hero.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 11:59 AM

QUOTE (Branden @ Jul 19 2012, 12:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's not like he had a choice. He cannot physically or mentally give up on anything he's set his mind to. It's not a choice with him, he has 1 option which he works towards without hesitation. This is actually a very popular characteristic to have in a hero.


he had two choices and he chose the option that he dies with sasuke that why it was a retard speech.
It would be more logic if he said if u attack konoha i will be forced to kill you to protect my friends while this doesnt happen i will try to bring u back

Edited by dovahkiin, 19 July 2012 - 12:00 PM.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 01:03 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Jul 19 2012, 11:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the majority of us acknowledge that. I personally think that if Sakura is ever going to grow up she needs to give up her love for Sasuke, not Sasuke entirely. I still think Sakura should actively try to save Sasuke along with Naruto since at this point it looks like Naruto and Sakura are the only 2 people in the series that still have faith that he can be brought back from the dark side.


I don't really know when that development took place. Because the last time I was here, it was, "Sakura is not still in love with Sasuke! She's all grown up now! Baaawww!" And also, I don't think he was ever part of the "light side" to begin with.

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Jul 19 2012, 11:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
he had two choices and he chose the option that he dies with sasuke that why it was a retard speech.
It would be more logic if he said if u attack konoha i will be forced to kill you to protect my friends while this doesnt happen i will try to bring u back


I would rather have seen this, too. Because I would much rather see Sasuke die than rejoin the village.

Edited by PachucoDesigns, 19 July 2012 - 01:04 PM.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 01:10 PM

QUOTE (PachucoDesigns @ Jul 19 2012, 01:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't really know when that development took place. Because the last time I was here, it was, "Sakura is not still in love with Sasuke! She's all grown up now! Baaawww!" And also, I don't think he was ever part of the "light side" to begin with.



I would rather have seen this, too. Because I would much rather see Sasuke die than rejoin the village.

Sasuke is still important to Sakura, just like he's important to Naruto and Kakashi. Aside from the attraction she feels towards him, there is much more, like teammate bond. She has not closed the feelings-for-Sasuke chapter yet, but they're slowly fading away. What Sakura really needs is a confrontation with Sasuke. And guess who she's moving on to: Naruto. cool.gif

Moving on from Sasuke is a big part of her development. She goes from chasing after him as a friend, to realize that he is not the guy she thought he was(at the Kage summit), and now she is utterly ashamed of her feelings for him(540). For her own sake, I want them to fade. Maybe a talk with the guy will give closure to her feelings for him. And then she will be true to herself and admit that Naruto is the one that will make her a sunshine sweetheart -For the most part. laugh.gif

About the last part, 8 year old Sasuke or younger is probably the only one on the light side.

Edited by sushi., 19 July 2012 - 01:20 PM.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 01:22 PM

QUOTE (PachucoDesigns @ Jul 19 2012, 09:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't really know when that development took place. Because the last time I was here, it was, "Sakura is not still in love with Sasuke! She's all grown up now! Baaawww!" And also, I don't think he was ever part of the "light side" to begin with.

Gah, you have no clue how much I hate when people say that. It's as bad as NH fans saying Naruto doesn't love Sakura anymore.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 01:31 PM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Jul 19 2012, 01:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sasuke is still important to Sakura, just like he's important to Naruto and Kakashi. Aside from the attraction she feels towards him, there is much more, like teammate bond. She has not closed the feelings-for-Sasuke chapter yet, but they're slowly fading away. What Sakura really needs is a confrontation with Sasuke. And guess who she's moving on to: Naruto. cool.gif

Moving on from Sasuke is a big part of her development. She goes from chasing after him as a friend, to realize that he is not the guy she thought he was(at the Kage summit), and now she is utterly ashamed of her feelings for him(540). For her own sake, I want them to fade. Maybe a talk with the guy will give closure to her feelings for him. And then she will be true to herself and admit that Naruto is the one that will make her a sunshine sweetheart -For the most part. laugh.gif

About the last part, 8 year old Sasuke or younger is probably the only one on the light side.

Again?
she had a confrontation with sasuke.
He tried to kill her two times.
The problem was naruto speech after this sakura was still hoping that he would be back.
I dont know what type of confrontation you wants.
I think you are speaking of a closure for her, sai already got his closure when he understands what friendship means, lets wait for the closure of sakura.
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 01:44 PM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Jul 19 2012, 01:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Again?
she had a confrontation with sasuke.
He tried to kill her two times.
The problem was naruto speech after this sakura was still hoping that he would be back.
I dont know what type of confrontation you wants.
I think you are speaking of a closure for her, sai already got his closure when he understands what friendship means, lets wait for the closure of sakura.

I mean a peaceful confrontation when he's not a crazy dummy anymore. Like in the new movie. I said I wanted them to talk, but they can't talk when he's trying to kill her. sweatdrop.gif

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 01:56 PM

QUOTE (HalfStarStudios @ Jul 19 2012, 01:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Gah, you have no clue how much I hate when people say that. It's as bad as NH fans saying Naruto doesn't love Sakura anymore.


Things could go both way, y'know. Part of growing up is moving on from your past, and all the hardships in it. I think part of why Sakura is having difficulty moving on from Sasuke fully is because she and Naruto are still on the hunt for Sasuke eitherway. Kinda hard to move on from someone when they're put in your brain 24/7. I have a feeling she will eventually, in her own time...

 
 
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 02:06 PM

QUOTE (Dalton (I stink at names) @ Jul 19 2012, 12:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Halfstar studios from Youtube has betrayed us and joined the NH fandom.



Who?

xDDD


No seriously...who?

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 02:11 PM

QUOTE (Strangelove @ Jul 19 2012, 10:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Who?

xDDD


No seriously...who?

I would like to know who this person is as well. Must be an idiot. laugh.gif

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 03:24 PM

I want to ask you guys 2 questions.

Why does Sakura exist?

Why does Hinata exist?

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 03:30 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Jul 19 2012, 04:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I want to ask you guys 2 questions.

Why does Sakura exist?

Why does Hinata exist?


Why do any of them exist?
On the morning of Wednesday, April 11th, 2012, my Aunt Karla passed away. She was my mother's baby sister, and my coolest aunt when I was a kid. She was the best babysitter ever, and she was like an older sister to me.

Karly, I don't know if you can hear this. I am not a believer, I haven't been since Sheryl died. But if you can, I want you to know that I'm truly sorry for everything bad I've ever said about you. When you were suffering, I should have been there to help you. I should have visited. I should have encouraged you to leave the house and get a job, to be active and alive the way you used to be.

I promise that I will do everything that I can to be successful and a good person, to make you proud the way you would have wanted me to. No matter what I said, I loved you. And I will always love you. Rest in Peace, you will never be forgotten.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 03:34 PM

QUOTE (PachucoDesigns @ Jul 19 2012, 08:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why do any of them exist?


Because a manga author created them to be used for his story.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 03:37 PM

QUOTE (Transformers03 @ Jul 19 2012, 04:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Because a manga author created them to be used for his story.


Correct.
On the morning of Wednesday, April 11th, 2012, my Aunt Karla passed away. She was my mother's baby sister, and my coolest aunt when I was a kid. She was the best babysitter ever, and she was like an older sister to me.

Karly, I don't know if you can hear this. I am not a believer, I haven't been since Sheryl died. But if you can, I want you to know that I'm truly sorry for everything bad I've ever said about you. When you were suffering, I should have been there to help you. I should have visited. I should have encouraged you to leave the house and get a job, to be active and alive the way you used to be.

I promise that I will do everything that I can to be successful and a good person, to make you proud the way you would have wanted me to. No matter what I said, I loved you. And I will always love you. Rest in Peace, you will never be forgotten.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 03:43 PM

sleep.gif both of you are acting like fools. obviously I meant why do they exist in the series.... stupid responses isnt helping


then again I dont know much about Japanese culture, perhaps everybody in Japan takes things literally 100% of the time with no room for altercation.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 03:44 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Jul 19 2012, 06:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I want to ask you guys 2 questions.

Why does Sakura exist?

Why does Hinata exist?

sakura exist as a main female character and one of the role she's playing is tsundere which every main female character in manga and anime is, and this trait has a lot of things in a tsundere, one of them are the love interest of the main male character. for hinata, she is a side character that plays in some parts of the like the other side characters but this side character is in love with the main male character which the author put her in this state to be a competition between the main female character and her to play a romance conversation or at least a part of a future chapter between them that consist in some part for the conclusion of the story biggrin.gif

by the way tsundere characters amuses me, they are the essential comic relief in the manga and anime XD

Edited by T XD, 19 July 2012 - 03:47 PM.


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Posted 19 July 2012 - 03:55 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Jul 19 2012, 04:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
sleep.gif both of you are acting like fools. obviously I meant why do they exist in the series.... stupid responses isnt helping


then again I dont know much about Japanese culture, perhaps everybody in Japan takes things literally 100% of the time with no room for altercation.


Nobody is acting like a fool. You ask why they exist, and that is precisely why they exist. Not every single character has to have a critical function in the story. And any one of the characters, save for the primary protagonist and antagonist, could be done away with if need be. Sakura's function is as the center of the love triangle, and as a supporting character for the hero. Hinata, which is what I'm sure you want to hear, is a driver in one of many sub plots, and serves absolutely no function in the core plot. There is your answer.

Edited by PachucoDesigns, 19 July 2012 - 03:56 PM.

On the morning of Wednesday, April 11th, 2012, my Aunt Karla passed away. She was my mother's baby sister, and my coolest aunt when I was a kid. She was the best babysitter ever, and she was like an older sister to me.

Karly, I don't know if you can hear this. I am not a believer, I haven't been since Sheryl died. But if you can, I want you to know that I'm truly sorry for everything bad I've ever said about you. When you were suffering, I should have been there to help you. I should have visited. I should have encouraged you to leave the house and get a job, to be active and alive the way you used to be.

I promise that I will do everything that I can to be successful and a good person, to make you proud the way you would have wanted me to. No matter what I said, I loved you. And I will always love you. Rest in Peace, you will never be forgotten.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 04:11 PM

QUOTE (PachucoDesigns @ Jul 19 2012, 08:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nobody is acting like a fool. You ask why they exist, and that is precisely why they exist. Not every single character has to have a critical function in the story. And any one of the characters, save for the primary protagonist and antagonist, could be done away with if need be. Sakura's function is as the center of the love triangle, and as a supporting character for the hero. Hinata, which is what I'm sure you want to hear, is a driver in one of many sub plots, and serves absolutely no function in the core plot. There is your answer.


And that's a good answer, except in my opinion I would say that Sakura became the main heroin.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 04:22 PM

QUOTE (Transformers03 @ Jul 19 2012, 05:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And that's a good answer, except in my opinion I would say that Sakura became the main heroin.


She is the main heroine. But her role is not integral to resolving the major conflict so much as it is to tying Naruto and Sasuke, preserving their bond, and resolving their interpersonal conflict.
On the morning of Wednesday, April 11th, 2012, my Aunt Karla passed away. She was my mother's baby sister, and my coolest aunt when I was a kid. She was the best babysitter ever, and she was like an older sister to me.

Karly, I don't know if you can hear this. I am not a believer, I haven't been since Sheryl died. But if you can, I want you to know that I'm truly sorry for everything bad I've ever said about you. When you were suffering, I should have been there to help you. I should have visited. I should have encouraged you to leave the house and get a job, to be active and alive the way you used to be.

I promise that I will do everything that I can to be successful and a good person, to make you proud the way you would have wanted me to. No matter what I said, I loved you. And I will always love you. Rest in Peace, you will never be forgotten.




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