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[Phantom_999]

Okay moving on on a different subject we all know the majority of us here are NaruSaku fans and cannot wait for Naruto and Sakura to kiss/hug/marry etc.(though they have hugged twice, well Sakura hugging Naruto at least) But I say majority because There are for sure others here whom prefer other pairings so Lets discuss on why we feel that those couples should happen please be reasonable and practical with your reasoning and you can even say "it turns you on" HOWEVER...when providing evidence unless it is relevant and considered canon please leave it out and instead give us your thoughts on it and how it appeals to you SO IN NO WAY are you to use proof from anime fillers, movies, or fan fiction though I know you all realize this already because those sources fall in the category of "whatever happens there stays there" whatever proof in those sources does not change any character or feelings in the manga or true mind set of the series, well actually you can mention it if you wish it will just be brushed off by someone at some point so you are free to say anything you please for your couple as long as it doesn't doesn't turn into venom or hostility or bashing because they will NOT escape the eyes of our kages or if you think the topic is ridiculous or so you don't need to respond so take it away!

Edited by Phantom_999, 19 April 2011 - 11:41 PM.

[Grace]

Man this got a lot of responses while I was asleep XD

Naruto is still all those things i said, but he did grow out of being a prankster thats true. all im saying is she wouldn't know how to handle hes goofy side(im aware she sees this) awkward perverted side, stop him from getting out of line or how to calm him down like only Sakura can and say the right words. (he is a role model she wants to be like him thats what she loves)

This line is the only thing I was responding to in the first place--the idea that she wouldn't know how to handle his (at times) overwhelming personality traits. While I agree that she'd have trouble doing so--as I stated earlier--I don't think she was completely blind to these parts of him just because her "favorite" part of him was his determination/nindo, or never considered them alongside the aspects of him she admired most.

*shrug* That's all.

@Phantom-- Um....congratulations for having ADD? I do too, so...wasn't worried about offending anyone XD

[Gravenimage]

I think to put it clear is its not that Hinata doesn't know Naruto well its that she doesn't know how strong and deep is his bond with Sasuke. She doesn't know how far is willing to save and cherish his bond or to put it clearly how badly he wants to save Sasuke from the darkness and bring him back to Konoha.
Hinata doesn't know how important bonds are to Naruto because she has never spend time with him. However Sakura DOES know how important bonds are to him she knows how far he's willing to go to save a friend, especially when that person he wants to save is his first friend, rival and best friend, the first bond he forged.

[Grace]

I think to put it clear is its not that Hinata doesn't know Naruto well its that she doesn't know how strong and deep is his bond with Sasuke. She doesn't know how far is willing to save and cherish his bond or to put it clearly how badly he wants to save Sasuke from the darkness and bring him back to Konoha.
Hinata doesn't know how important bonds are to Naruto because she has never spend time with him. However Sakura DOES know how important bonds are to him she knows how far he's willing to go to save a friend, especially when that person he wants to save is his first friend, rival and best friend, the first bond he forged.

(Is this directed at me? I dunno, I'mma answer like it is.)

I agree with all of what you said--I was responding to a comment that only touched on Hinata's reaction/ability to deal with Naruto's brashness/pranking/hyperness/etc. There's no question about whether she really knew everything that made up who he is--i.e., the "deeper" aspects; what I commented on was whether or not she could handle his general personality.

[Otaru]

Yes it's clear that Hinata doesn't know who Naruto is.
Even Sakura is surprised sometimes about Naruto... and she's the one that knows him the most, with Kakashi and Jiraiya. We can add Yamato.
Hinata knows that Naruto never gives up, that's why she admired him all these years, and that's why she loves him.

About Naruto and what he feels for Hinata, i thought about something yesterday.
Here, we have talked many times about the last databook, and the fact that Naruto still loves Sakura.
I think there is another thing that we can bring up, instead of the databook.
When Sakura declares to Naruto : his first reaction is to be happily surprised.
And just after that, he doubts Sakura, because he's not aware of all the feelings she had for him, because she just showed feelings for Sasuke (when he watched). Plus, Naruto is dense. ^^ lol
But at that time, he never thought about Hinata.
And Sakura declared AFTER Hinata declared.
Naruto should have at least thought about Hinata, if he would feel a little same as the girl.
But he doesn't ever think about her.
I think this is a pretty strong proof of him still in love with Sakura, and a pretty strong proof of how little he feels for Hinata.
I think he was really touched by what she've done, risked her life and all.
But it's clear that even all she have done (and sacrificing is BIG) he is still not in love with her
What can she do MORE ?
Naruto will never love her.
He didn't reject Sakura feelings because he became in love with Hinata, he rejected them because he didn't believe them.
He could have, but he didn't.
What Hinata have done didn't change anything. It's canon.


You know, if, after all that, Kishi would make NaruHina *pop* out of nowhere, that would be bullsh** lol

That would be really odd... just like Naruto told Sakura ^^
(I would like Naruto to be aware of what Sakura have done for him when he wasn't able to see. With this, he could believe her)

Edited by Otaru, 17 April 2011 - 11:59 PM.

[Phantom_999]

Nice points Otaru you have my respect

[Otaru]

*respect* !! that's really cool !
I didn't even have that on the other forum lol

[Sennin-Naruto]

hey this is the perfect song too wat sasusaku is now http://www.youtube.c...player_embedded hear it and tell me isnt it the same of wat sakura is sieng and feeling towards sasuke now? lol and in the end it shows how she moves on frum him and into the new one

[Phantom_999]

Heh good one I'll find a NaruSaku song now

Edited by Phantom_999, 19 April 2011 - 01:56 AM.

[hothead]

Umm, I have a question guys, I know Kishi said that he wasnt going to do any romance in Naruto because he "was bad at it" yet he still includes romance in his manga, so that go me wondering enough to search around and I ended up in wikipedia and it said this "Kishimoto said that since he was
unable to focus on romance
during Part I, he was to
emphasize it more in Part II,
despite finding it difficult.''
I know Kishi has been building romantic tension between Naruto and Sakura, but what if he doesnt pair anybody up?

Edited by hothead, 19 April 2011 - 05:55 AM.

[Greed-Sama]

Umm, I have a question guys, I know Kishi said that he wasnt going to do any romance in Naruto because he "was bad at it" yet he still includes romance in his manga, so that go me wondering enough to search around and I ended up in wikipedia and it said this "Kishimoto said that since he was
unable to focus on romance
during Part I, he was to
emphasize it more in Part II,
despite finding it difficult.''
I know Kishi has been building romantic tension between Naruto and Sakura, but what if he doesnt pair anybody up?

Then that's life. I'm sure if that was Kishi's plan then he wouldn't be making these "hints" though.

[Verilance]

Umm, I have a question guys, I know Kishi said that he wasnt going to do any romance in Naruto because he "was bad at it" yet he still includes romance in his manga, so that go me wondering enough to search around and I ended up in wikipedia and it said this "Kishimoto said that since he was
unable to focus on romance
during Part I, he was to
emphasize it more in Part II,
despite finding it difficult.''
I know Kishi has been building romantic tension between Naruto and Sakura, but what if he doesnt pair anybody up?

I think you have him confused with Oda, Kishimoto never said he would not put romance in Naruto, he did say however that he wasn't the best at writing romance but neither is George Lucas and that didn't stop him!!

[hothead]

Whoops! I guess I did confuse them, oh and thanks omegaman and Verilance for clearing that up!

[Phantom_999]

Its okay Hothead Yeah Kishimoto never said he wasn't going to put romance in it its just he has difficulty with drawing love scenes it but He definitely intends to put it in It was Echiro Oda (One Piece) and Tite Kubo (Bleach) that said they weren't going to put in romance in their manga because Tite Kubo says he doesn't do love stories and is more interested in character development and Echiro Oda says because its a shounen Manga so Boys aren't interested in romance

(I say sure sensei sure And yet that did not stop the "god" you worship, Akira Toriyama from putting romance in his Dragon Ball, The manga you hold in highest regard)

[Yin Yang Knight]

Hey guys, Like most of you I'm a NaruSaku fan. I used to be NaruHina fan but when i read vol 50(kinda lame that I snapped out of it so late huh). Anyways it got me thinking. I realized that that pairing was too shallow and meningless. And that these two had true passiona nd energy between them. Although she hated Naruto at first and was mad that they were forced to be together, they eventually got along and became great friends. And that friendship will hopefully become something more. After all, Naruto said he loves Sakura and he never goes back on his owrd, its just with all the crazi kitten thats going on its hard for him to show it much. Hinata and Naruto have had next to none interaction in Shippuden, and she blew he chance to follow up her love confession after Pain was defeated. Naruto and Sakura have been through hell together and that made them strong together. Well thats my ran-er contribution. I might be back on the forums some time. I know I don't know nearly as much as some of you but were all hpoing for the best right?

[lelouch the lord]

question, in the worst case scenario, and if sakura's confession is shown to really be a lie, and i'm saying "If", can narusaku still become canon?

[Phantom_999]

Good question Lelouch well even if that were the case It would still most likely be canon I could say Naruto's love for Sakura is too much developed for him to hate her just for lying though it was about a serious issue I bet they will (and they did) just brush it off and continue as usual in their relationship I mean after all this romantic development wouldn't not making it happen or switching to NaruHina out of the blue same a flipping a big,fat,bird in the fans' faces (giving them the middle finger I mean )?

[Verilance]

The thing is everyone (anti NS mostly and anti Sakura) drone on and on about Sakura lying to Naruto but they never talk about Naruto lying to Sakura in the same chapter.

Both had secrets they needed to keep from the other... end of story

it didn't change how Sakura felt about Naruto as we can see in the following chapters, nor did it change how Naruto feels about Sakura again looking at the following chapters

[ciardha]

question, in the worst case scenario, and if sakura's confession is shown to really be a lie, and i'm saying "If", can narusaku still become canon?

- for the hundredth time- Kishimoto himself point blank said at the Jump Festa 2009 interview Sakura was being 100% truthful in her confession to being in love with Naruto, Kishimoto even has Sai confirm this in 474 for the readers who found 469-70 to difficult to follow. This is a pointless question because it's already been answered- a hundred times at least, including by Kishimoto himself. (I think it's way past time to declare any questions of that nature a nondebatable topic- if the creator says she does, that's it, no more debates on that topic.)

If you want to argue an argued to death question again a better one with a newer twist- and not yet 100% answered in the manga or directly by Kishimoto: "Is Naruto still as much in love with Sakura as before, or did having to face the changed young woman, who he knows loves him now, lessen his desire (not end, we know for certain that's not true- another nondebatable topic.) for her- in other words, now that she's not the impossible fantasy girl, but a very much attainable young woman (A sure thing, no longer the impossible challenge), is his drive toward her lessened? He loves her, but did that love drop in his mind's priority once it was no longer tied to his rivalry with Sasuke ? (no more triangle, her heart is with Naruto. Any remnants or memories of feelings she might still carry for Sasuke has no impact on her overwhelming love for Naruto. )

Edited by ciardha, 19 April 2011 - 11:56 PM.

[Phantom_999]

exactly .... good one verilance!