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[pinkheartsyellowstars]

Well, Pinky (can I call you Pinky?), I think Sakura has some lingering romantic feelings for Sasuke, yet we've also seen how her feelings are much more platonic in most cases, in spite of how she's had her heart broken by him so many times. After all, Sakura still does likely have some feelings for Sasuke, regardless of how she loves Naruto as well. And I think in the end, in spite of those lingering feelings, she knows she's gotta do what's gotta be done, in order to protect the Leaf Village as well as perserve the last bit of decency Sasuke has, and to protect Naruto from him.

Bryon

EDIT: Damn, I was beaten to the punch! XD

Well, Pinky is alright(even though i am a boy)

Well, I think Sakura may have a feelings for Sasuke that's kinda not Romantic.
Crush and Love is kinda different.
In part she has a crush/infatuation with Sasuke and now we had seen Sakura step by step changing of feelings towards Naruto, it is crystal clear that Sakura had a romantic feelings for Naruto, despite Naruto belives that she loves Sasuke.(I think Naruto is a SS fan)

So I think, the actions Sakura had shown us denotes that she moved on and only care for Sasuke as a teammate or friend.(but there's a possibility likewise.) As Jenskott stated that she chose Naruto over Sasuke, it is kinda hinted there that she moved on.
But overall, the matter is Sakura's own POV.

SS/NH stated NS is dead due to the recent happenings, but again they are bias only accepting the facts favoring their own fandom.
They likewise stated that the "irony" of Sai, stating that Naruto loves Sakura, and those guilt trip issues had been affirmed and Sai is now also favors Sakura really loves Sasuke.
They kinda ignored the fact that Sai had stated the "love" because it is he thinks the only way Naruto can understand.(eventough i tried to reason out with them they seem to tell me "Now I am in Denial")

[Jenskott]

I think Naruto is a SS fan

No, he wants Sakura is happy. But after bringing Tsunade back, he convinced himself Sakura would only be happy with Sasuke, so he ought to step out of the way if he wanted Sakura was happy.

However, he disregarded considering Sasuke AND Sakura's feelings. Sasuke never loved Sakura; and Sakura's feelings might change thorughout the years -and IMO, they changed-. Now Sakura wants being happy with HIM, back in the village. Hence, his determination to stand aside is meaningless and a hindrance.

But you just try getting that through his thick skull.

SS/NH stated NS is dead due to the recent happenings, but again they are bias only accepting the facts favoring their own fandom.

And what is new about it? They are always declaring NS dead, not matter what happens or doesn't happen (they declared NS dead when Sakura hugged Naruto), and they only accept facts if they THINK they favor them.

They likewise stated that the "irony" of Sai, stating that Naruto loves Sakura, and those guilt trip issues had been affirmed and Sai is now also favors Sakura really loves Sasuke.

Affirmation? What affirmation? And what guilt trips?

Sai has stated she felt guilty cause the burden she had placed upon Naruto (which she didn't. Naruto placed it upon himself and refused being relived of it. But whatever), so she decided confessing her love for Naruto.

It's never implied he guilted her in loving Naruto (moreover, it's impossible guilting someone in loving someone else). The only thing you can infer from his words is she was guilted in confessing right away and rashly.

And now Sai favors Sakura really loves Sasuke? He is affirming her words were right, and stating she has moved on and chosen Naruto. It doesn't sound like if he favors SasuSaku to me.

No. The irony is if he stated Naruto loved Sakura he doesn't know what he is talking about, but if he states Sakura still likes Sasuke, he is a source of wisdom and absolute truth (and he stating she loves Naruto now is conveniently ignored, disregarded, neglected and forgotten)

They kinda ignored the fact that Sai had stated the "love" because it is he thinks the only way Naruto can understand.(eventough i tried to reason out with them they seem to tell me "Now I am in Denial")

Riiiiiiiiiiiight.

I would not go so far to tell Sai used the word "love" because he thinks that is the only Naruto would understand, though.

Anyways, I think the recent scenes were deliberately worded by Kishimoto in order to stir drama. IMO, his gambit has succeeded fully and completely. The fandom is in meltdown.

[Froot]

Hey guys, just popping in with a quick update on the going-ons over at the Viz board. We've seen a couple of flamers/trolls here and there, but the overall debate side of the board has calmed back down. One of the users placed a poll up to gage the amount of supporters, and I'm still curious about the demographic of the board, so I bumped the topic to try to get more people to see it, I really, really want to know what the demographic of it is, because it seems to actually be more slanted towards NaruSaku these days, lol!

Twilight, I'm glad you're on top of things over there... Thanks! I'll be sure to come over and vote myself.

I think the forum was prodominantly NH/SS before it was challenged by some outspoken NaruSaku supporters. I'm so glad to see more NaruSaku support now.

[Jenskott]

I think the forum was prodominantly NH/SS before it was challenged by some outspoken NaruSaku supporters. I'm so glad to see more NaruSaku support now.

Maybe there were plenty NS fans before, but they were frightened of speaking their minds cause the bulk of rabid NS-haters, and they started to be more outspoken when you started debating in that forum and challenging the the rule of the NH/SS Empire.

It would be a "but the emperor isn't wearing anything at all!" kind of situation (if someone hasn't got the reference, I recomend reading "The Emperor's New Clothes" Andersen's fairy tale).

[ciardha]

I have no troubles with ShikaIno or ShikaShiho. But in my opinion there are more hints and onscreen evidence for TemaShika that for ShikaIno. And Shiho is another meek girl Shikamaru barely knows and pays no attention to. I doubt we will see her again.

Plus ShikaIno won't happen because Shikamaru knew back in part 1 that Chouji was in love with Ino, and subtly encouraged Chouji. Plus Ino, like Sakura for Naruto showed in subtle ways even in later part 1 she was starting to care for Chouji.

Edited by ciardha, 14 December 2009 - 01:16 PM.

[Froot]

Plus ShikaIno won't happen because Shikamaru knew back in part 1 that Chouji was in love with Ino, and subtly encouraged Chouji. Plus Ino, like Sakura for Naruto showed in subtle ways even in later part 1 she was starting to care for Chouji.

No offense, ciardha, but... I don't think that was showing that Chouji had feelings for Ino. Shikamaru was just encouraging Chouji; Telling him that he was fine the way he was, not that... Ino loved him or something.

Maybe there were plenty NS fans before, but they were frightened of speaking their minds cause the bulk of rabid NS-haters, and they started to be more outspoken when you started debating in that forum and challenging the the rule of the NH/SS Empire.

I think so too. I think it took some like-minded people to come along and show that, yes, it was just fine to like NaruSaku to start supporting it. I'm so glad I'm getting to participate in some kind of NaruSaku revolution. Makes me so proud...

It would be a "but the emperor isn't wearing anything at all!" kind of situation (if someone hasn't got the reference, I recomend reading "The Emperor's New Clothes" Andersen's fairy tale).

I loooove that story! And yes, you're totally right. On point as usual, Jenskott.

On another note, I bring you all an argument from an SS fan, if you're in the mood to debate. It has to do with the recent chapters. You know, the whole "Sakura still loves Sasuke and not Naruto" argument.

Have at it. (My reply is in Bold.)

Hope you don't mind the length... --Click here to view--

SasuSaku.

NaruSaku is alright, but we've already learned that
Spoiler:
Sakura isn't in love with Naruto.
You see, being in love and loving are two different things; in love is when you have very passionate and romantic feelings for someone, and just loving could be anything. Sibling, family, friendship, etc. So we aren't entirely sure if Sakura loves Naruto like he does her, which is why I don't like this couple.

So I suppose since Sakura isn’t fangirling over Naruto it means she isn’t in love with him. She’s done things to show that, yes, she loves him, and has done things to show that she is in love with him. If you would read the manga, you’d notice some developing feelings for Naruto as well.

Sasuke (for SS), however, hasn't ever shown any feelings to Sakura or anyone. That's because he has goals he needs to accomplish and doesn't want to have bonds with anyone if they are to get in his way and he has to kill them. I bet that if this whole craze in the manga didn't happen, Sasuke would be way different than how he is now.

Probably. But he didn’t, and that’s the only thing that matters. Kishi made him so… goal-oriented for a reason.

We know he still cares for Sakura, Naruto, Kakashi and the rest of Konoha, he just can't let himself be weakened by those bonds if he still has things he needs to do.

Leaving no room for romantic love.

Even if he says he's cut the bonds, the chains are still there; once you make a bond with someone, there's no way you can break it, no matter how hard you try.

Even though his “bond” with Sakura was never strong to begin with. His bond with Naruto has been given more attention than his bond with Sakura; Even by Sakura.

Sakura is confused about her feelings, but we know that even though she's spent all that time with Naruto, she's in love with Sasuke, and Naruto accepts that.

She’s spent more time with Naruto than with Sasuke. And in that short time, Sakura and Sasuke gone absolutely no where. No progress. (i.e. the “You’re still annoying” at the end scene.) No where during that time period have Sakura and Sasuke interacted; the one time they did, Sasuke tried to kill her. Usually, attempted homicide isn’t very good for a relationship.

I hope you don’t expect Sakura to be one of those “blindly in love” girls that don’t even care that someone tried to kill her, her friend, her team mates, destroy her village, join a deadly organization, abandon the village, etc…

From the latest chap:
Spoiler:
She's willing to give up her life and Sasuke's so everything will be at peace once more. She wants to get Sasuke out of the darkness he's in; she wants Naruto to stop chasing Sasuke. So right now, she's practically just going to waste her life for the two people she cares most about.

I have nothing to say against this, as I agree. There’s just something I’d like to point out…

"She's willing to give up her life and Sasuke's so everything will be at peace once more."

Which means she acknowledges how deadly he is.

People may disagree, but these are my reasons for liking SS. It's somewhat like a tragedy/angst/dramatic couple, you never know what'll happen with them, which is why I think some people don't like this couple.

It’s just that I don’t really like tragedy and angst. I also wouldn’t like to see Sakura throw her character development away. You know, grow strong, independent, etc., and say that she couldn’t love a dangerous criminal who kept breaking her heart then go and say she’s in love with him.

But that’s just me.

But that's why I like it; it's not predictable, and it's not just "I love you, *insert main girl's name here*" *gasp* "I love you too *insert main guy's name here*" It has suspense, it doesn't have enough romance, but we never know what their feelings truly are, since Kishi does a good job with keeping their real feelings hidden until the end.

Thus we never know if Sasuke even loves her. Doesn’t seem like good writing to me.

Edited by Froot, 14 December 2009 - 01:37 PM.

[Jenskott]

You know, the whole "Sakura still loves Sasuke and not Naruto" argument.

Which is completely invalid since it was stated Sakura loves Naruto nad has chosen Naruto for the same person who tells Sakura loves Sasuke.

And Sakura herself has confessed she loves Naruto.

She’s spent more time with Naruto than with Sasuke. And in that short time, Sakura and Sasuke gone absolutely no where. No progress. (i.e. the “You’re still annoying” at the end scene.)

Not only that, Froot. During the goodbye scene, Sakura said she knew/thought he hated her and complained about he never talking to her and never trusting her. She probably was exaggerating (I'm quite sure Sasuke never hated her. He merely found her annoying. And he talked to her sometimes... usually to put her down, order her around or warn her against getting in his way. On the other hand it impllies he talked to her if she forced him to), but she felt he never talked to her? They were teammates and she thought he didn't even talk to her?

It isn't only there was no progress. It got worse.

I hope you don’t expect Sakura to be one of those “blindly in love” girls that don’t even care that someone tried to kill her, her friend, her team mates, destroy her village, join a deadly organization, abandon the village, etc…

It’s just that I don’t really like tragedy and angst. I also wouldn’t like to see Sakura throw her character development away. You know, grow strong, independent, etc., and say that she couldn’t love a dangerous criminal who kept breaking her heart then go and say she’s in love with him.

It's amusing she got compared with Bella because she is willing facing reality and acting consequently.

And it's amusing when that person told he/she liked SS because it was unpredictable, it wasn't a "I love you, I love you, too" situation. SS (and NH) is EXACTLY that. And an unpredicted development isn't good on and of itself, especially if it tosses storytelling logic out of the window.

Moreover, I wouldn't call it unpredictable. I would call it poor.

[pinkheartsyellowstars]

No, he wants Sakura is happy. But after bringing Tsunade back, he convinced himself Sakura would only be happy with Sasuke, so he ought to step out of the way if he wanted Sakura was happy.

I was only kidding in that way LOL

However, he disregarded considering Sasuke AND Sakura's feelings. Sasuke never loved Sakura; and Sakura's feelings might change thorughout the years -and IMO, they changed-. Now Sakura wants being happy with HIM, back in the village. Hence, his determination to stand aside is meaningless and a hindrance.

I AGREE

And what is new about it? They are always declaring NS dead, not matter what happens or doesn't happen (they declared NS dead when Sakura hugged Naruto), and they only accept facts if they THINK they favor them.

Not only that, they are now basing on the DATABOOKS , whic made me surprise that they say Kishi also the onewho made databooks and so are equal to manga facts.

Affirmation? What affirmation? And what guilt trips?

Sai has stated she felt guilty cause the burden she had placed upon Naruto (which she didn't. Naruto placed it upon himself and refused being relived of it. But whatever), so she decided confessing her love for Naruto.

As far as i know they are labeling NS as guilt,pain,pity and lies.
guilt due to Sai, Pity/Pain due to Sakura's realization of the burden she made to Naruto, and Lies for the they are assuming Sakura's confession is a fake.

Riiiiiiiiiiiight.

I would not go so far to tell Sai used the word "love" because he thinks that is the only Naruto would understand, though.

Anyways, I think the recent scenes were deliberately worded by Kishimoto in order to stir drama. IMO, his gambit has succeeded fully and completely. The fandom is in meltdown.

Yeah
As far as I can see, it is my rebuttal in their statement "Sakura can't love two boys, one must be greater than the another"

[Derock]

Derock, do you remember what happened when Kakashi ran into Asuma and Kurenai before the timeskip? There were no blushing back then, either. And even there was a bit of annoyance.

I DO know they weren't dating in that chapter. What I'm telling is there are plenty scenes displaying they appreciate each other and like spending time together.

They did blushed when Kakashi mentioned the word to them in the anime. I remembered the scene correctly or that must be an added-on filler.

[Jenskott]

I was only kidding in that way

I figured that, but I have heard that joke so much times -and most of them coming from people was joking not at all- it ceased being funny a long while ago.

Not only that, they are now basing on the DATABOOKS , whic made me surprise that they say Kishi also the onewho made databooks and so are equal to manga facts.

To be fair, everybody use the databooksto prove the unavoidable canonicity of the pairing they ship. NS fans included.

Personally I only acknowledge the databooks as long as they don't contradict the manga.

As far as i know they are labeling NS as guilt,pain,pity and lies.
guilt due to Sai, Pity/Pain due to Sakura's realization of the burden she made to Naruto, and Lies for the they are assuming Sakura's confession is a fake.

Catsi has already written a perfet rebuttal for that rubbish, so I won't add anything else, but that argument is... well, garbage. It falls apart for everywhere.

And they aren't assuming her confession was fake. They are convincing themselves of it because her confession shattered their fannish fantasies.

There is nothing in the text hinting she was lying and she never was accused of it. Naruto, Sai... no character has commented on it has stated or implied she was lying.

Naruto accused her of DELUDING herself, not of lying to him, and he spouted that accusation when she claimed she didn't care for Sasuke anymore, not when she was confessing her love to him. And her reaction -getting furious at him- proved to me she was being absolutely serious about her feelings.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

Well, Pinky is alright(even though i am a boy)

Well, I think Sakura may have a feelings for Sasuke that's kinda not Romantic.
Crush and Love is kinda different.
In part she has a crush/infatuation with Sasuke and now we had seen Sakura step by step changing of feelings towards Naruto, it is crystal clear that Sakura had a romantic feelings for Naruto, despite Naruto belives that she loves Sasuke.(I think Naruto is a SS fan)

So I think, the actions Sakura had shown us denotes that she moved on and only care for Sasuke as a teammate or friend.(but there's a possibility likewise.) As Jenskott stated that she chose Naruto over Sasuke, it is kinda hinted there that she moved on.
But overall, the matter is Sakura's own POV.

SS/NH stated NS is dead due to the recent happenings, but again they are bias only accepting the facts favoring their own fandom.
They likewise stated that the "irony" of Sai, stating that Naruto loves Sakura, and those guilt trip issues had been affirmed and Sai is now also favors Sakura really loves Sasuke.
They kinda ignored the fact that Sai had stated the "love" because it is he thinks the only way Naruto can understand.(eventough i tried to reason out with them they seem to tell me "Now I am in Denial")

Well, my bad. Then I won't go for it.

And as you know too, man, Sakura's crush/infatuation changed to genuine attraction to Sasuke, yet it became obvious how she felt for him had changed, even with some lingering feelings, as did her feelings for Naruto.

In reality, I think Sai was saying all of that stuff because he felt it needed to be said, both Sakura knowing Naruto's feelings, and Naruto knowing what Sakura had planned to do in regards of Sasuke. It just is a matter of his trying to really help his friends out, since they've been so kind to him, in spite of some early transgressions with him due to his indifferent attitude and his always taunting Naruto.

If anything, I think that's Naruto's weakness is that he's in denial about a lot of things. Like Sakura possibly not caring as much for Sasuke anymore, or his believing that she really didn't love him, or the fact Sasuke can still be the same guy he once was before. My guess is he just was too shaken up by Sasuke's dark, "true" side showing its ugly head after the mess with Itachi as well as his own feelings of jealousy toward Naruto's growth, not unlike his own toward Itachi. And for Naruto, trying to convince himself that keeping his promise to Sakura no matter what was the only way he could make himself feel better, even when he's seen firsthand how Sasuke's determined to kill him or anyone else, and that he's become a criminal.

In the end, that kind of denial shows how it'll affect Naruto's bonds with the others at times, such as his trying to use the facts Madara told him, Kakashi and Tenzo as an excuse when Kiba asked him of his allying with the Akatsuki.

And that kind of denial has made him unable to see of how Sakura's feelings for him have changed at times when he doesn't get her annoyed. But that's Naruto's usual strength and weakness; the fact he never thinks about his feelings, but about how he thinks the feelings of others are.

Bryon

[Froot]

Which is completely invalid since it was stated Sakura loves Naruto nad has chosen Naruto for the same person who tells Sakura loves Sasuke.

Gotta love pointless arguments

And Sakura herself has confessed she loves Naruto.

It's there in the fine print. Blatantly stated. Which answers our question "Would they deny NaruSaku even if they made love in a manga panel?"

Yes, in fact, they would.

Not only that, Froot. During the goodbye scene, Sakura said she knew/thought he hated her and complained about he never talking to her and never trusting her.

Which means she acknowledged herself that she knows, or atl east thinks, that sasuke hates her. Whether he really does or not, as far as Sakura's concerned he does hate her

It's amusing she got compared with Bella because she is willing facing reality and acting consequently.

Yes, how dare Sakura use logic and love Naruto! Only Hinata is allowed to do that!

And it's amusing when that person told he/she liked SS because it was unpredictable, it wasn't a "I love you, I love you, too" situation. SS (and NH) is EXACTLY that. And an unpredicted development isn't good on and of itself, especially if it tosses storytelling logic out of the window.

Moreover, I wouldn't call it unpredictable. I would call it poor.

Maybe they want Naruto to be so different that they would go as far as to want to see it poorly written.

[catsi563]

SasuSaku if I even were willing to acknowledge its existence as anything shy of Crack now, Is far from unpredictable.

In point of fact it is highly predicatable using even the most basic of logic. The basis would be the classic sakuras pure heart and unflagging devotion will be the key to saving sasuke. She will reveal she has remained faithful and sasuke will be so shaken by her devotion he will turn away from the tragic life decisions hes made and forswear all evil((ie karin)) and the two will return triumphantly to Konoha where Sakuras feverish defence of true love will result in his light to non punishment. Naruto though heartbroken will smile and support their obvious love for each other and will be in turn supported by the selfless devotion of Hinata who has always loved him and almost gave her life for him. They two will marry in a remarkable double ceremony with Sasuke and Sakura.

And they all lived happily ever after

*promptly goes to bathroom to retch*

sorry for the histrionics at the end but im honestly sickened at the thought of such horrid hollywoodesque tripe being used as a justification, for a pairing whose glory days ended the moment Sakura sat down on the very bench she fell in love with sasuke on, and thought that maybe she should start being nicer to Naruto.

In conclusion SasuSaku and by proxy NaruHina are both incredibly predictable inspite of common belief that they arent.

NaruSaku on the other hand has only had one element of predictability in the notion of main Shonen guy hero in love with main Tsundere female lead.

beyond that notion NaruSaku has been incredibly unpredictable. While we have been able to see Sakuras slow steady growth in both character and romantic feelings to naruto, we have also seen Narutos feelings challenged on a number of occasions by different means.

such as Sakuras devotion to sasuke, his own promise of a lifetime, Hinatas confession, Sakuras hug and later her own confession. all of these instances have led to Naruto being put in highly unpredictable situation.

A situation where he being a person who is used to just stubbornly holding onto his ideals with the tenacity of a pitbull has all but had his jawlock broken with a crowbar and ciardhas much vaunted "Clue by 4" upside the head.

this unpredictability has left NaruSaku supporters sitting on the edge of there seat with anticipation of each new chapter to see what will happen next, and what revelations will naruto and sakura have inr egards to each other.

[kawarimi]

I have bee told it is spelled by many as well including that of "Shipuden" or even "Shippuuden."

After a little research, I am 99% sure it is spelled "Shippūden" (note the line over the u)


Which is how they spell it on the DVDs

A bit off-topic but it was brought up and I didn't see anyone already answering this so....

You can write it either Shippuuden and Shippūden, both are acceptable forms of romaji (writing Japanese in the roman alphabet). However, Shipuden is not technically correct, but it tends to get written that way mainly by people who haven't studied the language to understand the distinction (and this I think used to be a common practice for official media translations) - basically the double vowel (or line above the vowel) is held over two counts, where normally each syllable in Japanese (generally) takes the same one beat. So Shippuden and Shippuuden are not the same word if you're going by correct romaji dictation.

The double consonant gives it a sort of hiccup before the consonant sound (I forget how to more officially describe it XD), if you wanted to know that as well.

Edited by kawarimi, 14 December 2009 - 06:16 PM.

[catsi563]

SasuSaku if I even were willing to acknowledge its existence as anything shy of Crack now, Is far from unpredictable.

In point of fact it is highly predicatable using even the most basic of logic. The basis would be the classic sakuras pure heart and unflagging devotion will be the key to saving sasuke. She will reveal she has remained faithful and sasuke will be so shaken by her devotion he will turn away from the tragic life decisions hes made and forswear all evil((ie karin)) and the two will return triumphantly to Konoha where Sakuras feverish defence of true love will result in his light to non punishment. Naruto though heartbroken will smile and support their obvious love for each other and will be in turn supported by the selfless devotion of Hinata who has always loved him and almost gave her life for him. They two will marry in a remarkable double ceremony with Sasuke and Sakura.

And they all lived happily ever after

*promptly goes to bathroom to retch*

sorry for the histrionics at the end but im honestly sickened at the thought of such horrid hollywoodesque tripe being used as a justification, for a pairing whose glory days ended the moment Sakura sat down on the very bench she fell in love with sasuke on, and thought that maybe she should start being nicer to Naruto.

In conclusion SasuSaku and by proxy NaruHina are both incredibly predictable inspite of common belief that they arent.

NaruSaku on the other hand has only had one element of predictability in the notion of main Shonen guy hero in love with main Tsundere female lead.

beyond that notion NaruSaku has been incredibly unpredictable. While we have been able to see Sakuras slow steady growth in both character and romantic feelings to naruto, we have also seen Narutos feelings challenged on a number of occasions by different means.

such as Sakuras devotion to sasuke, his own promise of a lifetime, Hinatas confession, Sakuras hug and later her own confession. all of these instances have led to Naruto being put in highly unpredictable situation.

A situation where he being a person who is used to just stubbornly holding onto his ideals with the tenacity of a pitbull has all but had his jawlock broken with a crowbar and ciardhas much vaunted "Clue by 4" upside the head.

this unpredictability has left NaruSaku supporters sitting on the edge of there seat with anticipation of each new chapter to see what will happen next, and what revelations will naruto and sakura have inr egards to each other.

Back on topic

[RedDelicious]

Well, Pinky (can I call you Pinky?), ...

Well, Pinky is alright(even though i am a boy)

I think Bryon was setting you up for a response if he disagreed with you in the future:
"Don't make me hurt you, Pinky!" (narf!)

I was reading through Wikipedia, and came across this:
"...Brain insults him constantly and often beats him over the head. However, Pinky actually seems to enjoy this, laughing after every hit."

What a radical concept, one character hitting another for comic effect, and the one being hit not minding at all.
I wonder if there are anti-Sakura posters writing essays about how Pinky hates the Brain due to the abuse.

Anyways...

I asked this question earlier, and don't remember seeing a response, so I'll ask again. (If I overlooked something, my apologies.)

The claim is being made (by some) that Sakura going off to kill Sasuke shows that she loves Sasuke more than Naruto.
IF that was true, then why did she visit Naruto (and rock his world by confessing her love), instead of going straight after Sasuke?

[Red Faction]

Well, Pinky is alright(even though i am a boy)


I think Bryon was setting you up for a response if he disagreed with you in the future:
"Don't make me hurt you, Pinky!" (narf!)

I was reading through Wikipedia, and came across this:
"...Brain insults him constantly and often beats him over the head. However, Pinky actually seems to enjoy this, laughing after every hit."

What a radical concept, one character hitting another for comic effect, and the one being hit not minding at all.
I wonder if there are anti-Sakura posters writing essays about how Pinky hates the Brain due to the abuse.

Anyways...

I asked this question earlier, and don't remember seeing a response, so I'll ask again. (If I overlooked something, my apologies.)

The claim is being made (by some) that Sakura going off to kill Sasuke shows that she loves Sasuke more than Naruto.
IF that was true, then why did she visit Naruto (and rock his world by confessing her love), instead of going straight after Sasuke?

im new hay everyone:) point: there ether overconfident or desperate its pritty sad

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

Well, Pinky is alright(even though i am a boy)


I think Bryon was setting you up for a response if he disagreed with you in the future:
"Don't make me hurt you, Pinky!" (narf!)

I was reading through Wikipedia, and came across this:
"...Brain insults him constantly and often beats him over the head. However, Pinky actually seems to enjoy this, laughing after every hit."

What a radical concept, one character hitting another for comic effect, and the one being hit not minding at all.
I wonder if there are anti-Sakura posters writing essays about how Pinky hates the Brain due to the abuse.

Anyways...

I asked this question earlier, and don't remember seeing a response, so I'll ask again. (If I overlooked something, my apologies.)

The claim is being made (by some) that Sakura going off to kill Sasuke shows that she loves Sasuke more than Naruto.
IF that was true, then why did she visit Naruto (and rock his world by confessing her love), instead of going straight after Sasuke?

LOL!! XD

Good point, Red. I see it as Sakura realizing she wanted to ease Naruto's pain, since it was pain she brought on him by making her request to him of wanting him to bring Sasuke home to the village. As she said, she caused Naruto the most pain with her many mistakes, and she didn't want to make anymore. That's likely why she didn't tell him she was going to kill Sasuke, since she'd know how he'd react, and also didn't want to really make him feel more hurt about it.

Bryon

[Jenskott]

sorry for the histrionics at the end but im honestly sickened at the thought of such horrid hollywoodesque tripe being used as a justification, for a pairing whose glory days ended the moment Sakura sat down on the very bench she fell in love with sasuke on, and thought that maybe she should start being nicer to Naruto.

Hollywoodesque tripe is a fitting name. God, I had troubles erading the whole paragraph.

And you are right. NaruSaku is predictable in the sense of it is a Main character/Tsundere female lead. But that is where its predictability ends.

When I read chapter 3, I figured Naruto and Sakura would end up together (that was a long time before I shipped the pairing, mind you). I guesses Sakura's relationship with Sasuke would not progress at all, and on the other hand her bonds with Naruto would strenghten, whereas Naruto wouldn't stop loving her.

And that is exactly what has happened so far. However the development has been more complex and more slow-paced than I had expected.

The claim is being made (by some) that Sakura going off to kill Sasuke shows that she loves Sasuke more than Naruto.
IF that was true, then why did she visit Naruto (and rock his world by confessing her love), instead of going straight after Sasuke?

Personally I think that is a very weak argument and it can be easily turned on whoever is using it for defending NS or SS. You could easily claim Sakura going off to kill Sasuke shows she loves Naruto more that Sasuke, since she is determined to kill her crush to protect Naruto, not matter what she can still feel towards Sasuke.

Ironically, it was not long ago when SS fans claimed Sakura would kill Naruto without one second thought in order to defend Sasuke because she loved Sasuke. Now she is downright willing killing Sasuke in order to protect Naruto. Supposedly, that proves she loves Sasuke more. I'm sorry, but both arguments don't add up.

Anyways, I reckon they are making progress: if they are using that argument (Sakura loves Sasuke more than Naruto) then they are tacitly admiting or acknowledging she LOVES Naruto.

Nonetheless, I wonder why someone would ever think Sakura would side with Sasuke and turn on Naruto. Even if we ignored chapter 308 (where Sasuke tried hurting Naruto and she attacked Sasuke) the development of the plot and the characters clearly shows the Sakura's loyalties lay with Naruto and Konohagakure, and she would not betray them for Sasuke.

Maybe they took seriously her words back in the chapter 198 ("Please, stay with me. And if it isn't possible, let me go with you"). I thought they were the words of a desperate teen kid who clearly wasn't thinking what she was telling, and her next sentence ("I'll scream and yell if you try leaving") proved that. And her posterior behaviour reinforced my impression.

And even if she meant it, she wasn't telling: "I'll betray and kill for you". She was telling: "Allow me go with you". I would bet she wasn't thinking of the implications (which actually reinforces my point).

[Devil Keyz]

^^ PI-LEASSEEE. They thought Sakura would Kill Naurto!?!?? are they THAT crazy. They need to realise, the anime/manga is called NARUTO.