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[Inferno180]

I still think the whole deal with the Sakura-Haters recently, its just been more and more double standard stuff that they hate, simply because its Sakura getting screentime and even reasons for it. I mean many said, "She gets no powerup she is useless." Well she got it, many said it was an asspull, it was in a sense but its also to keep the aspect of the "sannin deadlock" alive, basically despite seeing how powerful Jiraya, Tsunade, and Orochimaru were, though Tsunade seemed underneath them, they were still equal, they just all had different aspects and skills that evened out with the others in the long run.

 

But this deal with Sakura getting a powerup out of nowhere, I'm sorry wasn't Hinata's lions fist an asspull, a power we just saw right at Pain first in 437 then she gets steamrolled. It goes further to the point some have gone "this is not fair, why does Kishi treat Hinata like this? Why isn't she getting a power up?" Back in 633, many haters still went on and on about how its a betrayal and how Sakura should not be doing this new stuff, they said Hinata would outshine Sakura again and while Sakura manages to take a hundred or so down in one strike, Hinata barely takes down 1 just now learning an ability Neji knew the entire time of the series. Sakura then reveals the summoning technique. Its like at this point, many would want Hinata to get these boosts or important events yet its Sakura and they get pissed off, simply because its Sakura. Deal is, Sakura still has more importance, a lot of it, especially when we come to the final arc for the fight for hokage. This is the arc when Team 7 gets is end, Sakura and her involvement with Naruto and Sasuke will be resolved here at last. Sakura's had a bigger role for the past few weeks, it will end soon, obviously we will revisit Tsunade and Taka next week, but there is still the Juubi itself, Madara, and Kakashi+Obito (they have been absent for a while now). But Sakura still has more big events to come, namely one right away with Sasuke's true motives and obviously the end fight when it comes to Naruto and Sasuke facing each other.

[T XD]

Most the part of her role and an huge part of romance in manga comes from Sakura.

Even her character concept does not help her from being seen as a pairing fodder i see her as someome who will be paired in the end.
I dont see that with Naruto or Sasuke but it's certain that Sakura will because she's the romance subplot of the manga she's always being the major factor that push romance/pairing scenes.

Next chapter we will get some pairing/romance scene and guess what? it will come from Sakura.

 

Not even Hinata is helping into this because her moments are being seemd as a friendship rather than romantic moments, even the so called 615 moment got seemed as a friendship/comrade moment rather than romance.(Kishi himself)

I assume that you see this as something wrong ? Cause I really don't see where the wrongness in here. Yes, Sakura could be less romance and more fighting, but she's both with romance as one of her traits concerning in the plot of the story. Not to mention that main female/s character/s will have to show romance in manga for the sake of the pairing/s that is/are due for them.

 

Same goes with Sakura being a character that fights concerning the action part in the plot that was being processed throughout the manga from time to time regarding her, and now, after latest chapters, it's fixed as one of her traits also.

 

A pairing fodder means a character, usually side character, that most of their presence in the manga is used for romance part, and that's it. Sakura contributes in the romance of the manga a lot, but she's not just that from what we see. If you see Sakura as a pairing fodder most of the time, well, that's your opinion but it's unfair for her to be seen mostly as a character just that.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I assume that you see this as something wrong ? Cause I really don't see where the wrongness in here. Yes, Sakura could be less romance and more fighting, but she's both with romance as one of her traits concerning in the plot of the story. Not to mention that main female/s character/s will have to show romance in manga for the sake of the pairing/s that is/are due for them.

 

Same goes with Sakura being a character that fights concerning the action part in the plot that was being processed throughout the manga from time to time regarding her, and now, after latest chapters, it's fixed as one of her traits also.

 

A pairing fodder means a character, usually side character, that most of their presence in the manga is used for romance part, and that's it. Sakura contributes in the romance of the manga a lot, but she's not just that from what we see. If you see Sakura as a pairing fodder most of the time, well, that's your opinion but it's unfair for her to be seen mostly as a character just that.

I feel that she's more romance than fighting, yep she got a powerup it's stronger than the other's of k11 but it's not on kage's level, even I dont consider tsunade on kage's level she does not get close to any of the previous kages, and could not do much things against Orochimaru(being steamrolled by Kabuto srsly?) even with Jiraiya at her side, against Madara she also got steamrolled and even showed her power when everyone was exausted and still didnt served for nothing, Sakura is a very strong support but it's not a fighter, her powerup enhanced her only offensive ability which is "brute force", and that's all then she got sidelined again showing her healing everyone and getting praised by (forgot her name).

Her role is totally comparable to Kushina and even Mito Uzumaki, which they were supportive ninjas.

 

If you stop to think she just landed a punch enhanced by the seal and that's it.

(despite about that she's stronger than any of the k9, not sure about Lee).

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 16 June 2013 - 03:19 PM.

[T XD]

I feel that she's more romance than fighting, yep she got a powerup it's stronger than the other's of k11 but it's not on kage's level, even I dont consider tsunade on kage's level she does not get close to any of the previous kages, and could not do much things against Orochimaru(being steamrolled by Kabuto srsly?) even with Jiraiya at her side, against Madara she also got steamrolled and even showed her power when everyone was exausted and still didnt served for nothing, Sakura is a very strong support but it's not a fighter, her powerup enhanced her only offensive ability which is "brute force", and that's all then she got sidelined again showing her healing everyone and getting praised by (forgot her name).

Her role is totally comparable to Kushina and even Mito Uzumaki, which they were supportive ninjas.

 

If you stop to think she just landed a punch enhanced by the seal and that's it.

(despite about that she's stronger than any of the k9, not sure about Lee).

Well, it's your opinion on her. As for her being on Kage's level, I don't weight her on levels cause when she uses this seal, it's up for her how to use it and, actually, she can go against a Kage with this.

 

Are you serious ? Tsunade isn't on Kage level ? From what I have seen from her, she's one the strongest characters. I don't remember well what she has done in her fights, but I think you know how far she can go with her skills. Every character has been steamrolled a lot and the most of all of them is Naruto. Typical to be fighting and get steamrolled repeatedly XD

 

Sakura's primary offensive skill is brute force. That's how she goes with her attacks and then uses other abilities. That's even without the seal that we know of, and I don't think that Kishi has finished with Sakura concerning fighting cause I think we'll see more of what she got up in her sleeves. I agree she's more of a supportive but when she truly fights, I don't think she's just supportive.

 

How she's sidelined ? She's healing the alliance in the last chapter means she's sidelined ? Sidelined when a character isn't shown as of recent events, and that doesn't apply on Sakura for healing the alliance. I guess healing has become sensitive to some now... It's not that bad when Sakura is doing one of her jobs especially when she said that she'll take care on healing the alliance in the time being that we saw in the last chapter.

 

I think it's all down to how a person likes to see main characters.

Edited by T XD, 16 June 2013 - 03:44 PM.

[bthug]

So we agree that NH is pretty much over, but its not officially over. How do u see it playing out in the manga? I think Kishi will have Hinata get over Naruto so that it doesn't destroy the characters in the fans eyes. 

[Awes9]

I don't think Hinata will ever get over Naruto, Hinata completely revolves around Naruto she is a satelitte character but I don't see her looking for a relationship with Naruto, what she said in 573 and 633 is about comradeship not romance. She may get a new resolve after the war and carry on by herself instead of using Naruto as a crutch but I am not sure.

Edited by Awes9, 16 June 2013 - 04:21 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I don't think Hinata will ever get over Naruto, Hinata completely revolves around Naruto she is a satelitte character but I don't see her looking for her relationship with Naruto, what she said in 573 and 633 is about comradeship not romance. She may get a new resolve after the war and carry on by herself instead of using as a crutch but I am not sure.

Well, at least I'm not alone on comradeship that she has been pursuing since the recent event. It's over for me, but if you truly want officially over as in anyone can no longer say NH is possible, then NS must be canon. Simple as that.

[Awes9]

Well, at least I'm not alone on comradeship that she has been pursuing since the recent event. It's over for me, but if you truly want officially over as in anyone can no longer say NH is possible, then NS must be canon. Simple as that.

That's what Hinata's character has been about, it's us who interpreted her wrong and tought all she wanted was romance. I still think there's one last development for Hinata because she said she would stop chasing him after the war and I wonder how will that play out, will she finally grow and stand up for herself ? I hope so.

[rikakim94]

As a newcomer to the world of Naruto, and having been introduced through the anime rather than the manga, I can say my experience is that there is a huge amount of misinformation and lies on the internet, as far as English websites are concerned.  For someone who has just been introduced to Naruto, the misinformation can really cloud your thinking, especially if you haven't had a chance to read through the manga yet (which I hadn't, trying now but exams keeping me down).   Thank goodness for places like this forum to educate newcomers on whats going on in a logical, factual manner.  As someone said above, why do people lie to themselves, its just really pointless.  Lol @ silly people

 

Yeah at first i just agreed with everyone what they say about sakura as time went i started to get the mind of my own. Then i started to look at different opinions of other people who wasn' t so biased about sakura and narusaku this is what changed me to become an ns fan and narusaku and to stick to this website for better reliable info.

 

 

Still that translation really has to change because it concerns Sakura as a character not the pairing as a whole. If that translation remains and NS happens Sakura will be hated for just being a pairing fodder character, and Hinata fans will be disappointed that Hinata didn't get more development " as the new heroine". If it's changed than it would help clear some things up.

Yeah thats my problem to they might view her only in negative light rather than knowing the actual truth about sakura.

 

I have a pretty bad feeling that this will lead to negative comparison to sakura to hinata to the the new comers  of the naruto series therefore creating more negativity and wishful thinking. 

 

this is from other post ^

 

 

They are just that... biased! Dunno what to say anymore, really...

Their letting their  biasness cloud their judgement from what im seeing Cause the stuff i pointed in my previous post just proves it. 

 

Just two major errors in that so called newly "changed" trivia.

 

Yeah, Sakura's page is such a mess on some very critical points of her character. Dunno how I will take it from here, for the moment I am on pause... However, I will get back to them. With one last thing. But I have to prepare very good for my last speech there.

Not to mention, really, most of them lack so much comprehensive reading that it makes me laugh, sadly. They still haven't got the thing right with Sakura's seal...

Make sure you make a good post that will have snap some senses into them....if its even possible.

 

Dunno what to say, really... It shocked me that an admin spoke like that. Other simple users were a bit more mature, however, I expected something else from the admins...
They say that it has nothing to do, when actually it has all. People use NarutoWikia for many reasons and that was one of them.

Dunno, I am really very saddened about this...

LE: if anyone wants to see the convo, it's here: http://naruto.wikia....=0&oldid=795055

I saw the convo in your tumblr post...its just depressing the guy accused you being a sakura fan when you try to bring actual proof, but with being a biased hinata fan who just gets angry and make not so good of an argument is ok and has more better reasoning?    

 

I feel really bad for you all that hard work for nothing...

 

It's in the nature of people to want to be right. Narutopedia is no different.

 

People are prideful and won't accept being wrong even if the evidence is clear that they are. Being wrong means they loose, and some people just don't have enough self esteem to acknowledge that with dignity.

 

 You know what your post reminds me of that character from 12 angry men he let his pride be his downfall in the end of that movie.

 

 I guess that admin  and some people in narutopedia remind me of that character in that movie. 

 

To prideful to care about the truth or flaw in the argument....

Edited by rikakim94, 16 June 2013 - 04:39 PM.

[Awes9]

Yeah at first i just agreed with everyone what they say about sakura as time went i started to get the mind of my own. Then i started to look at different opinions of other people who wasn' t so biased about sakura and narusaku this is what changed me to become an ns fan and narusaku and to stick to this website for better reliable info.
 

Yeah thats my problem to they might view her only in negative light rather than knowing the actual truth about sakura.
 
I have a pretty bad feeling that this will lead to negative comparison to sakura to hinata to the the new comers  of the naruto series therefore creating more negativity and wishful thinking. 
 
this is from other post ^
 
 

Their letting their  biasness cloud their judgement from what im seeing Cause the stuff i pointed in my previous post just proves it. 
 
Just two major errors in that so called newly "changed" trivia.
 

Make sure you make a good post that will have snap some senses into them....if its even possible.
 

I saw the convo in your tumblr post...its just depressing the guy accused you being a sakura fan when you try to bring actual proof, but with being a biased hinata fan who just gets angry and make not so good of an argument is ok and has more better reasoning?    
 
I feel really bad for you all that hard work for nothing...
 

 
 You know what your post reminds me of that character from 12 angry men he let his pride be his downfall in the end of that movie.
 
 I guess that admin  and some people in narutopedia remind me of that character in that movie. 
 
To prideful to care about the truth or flaw in the argument....

Isn't that ridiculous ? What will they gain by doing that ? It always baffles me people prefer to ignore the truth and let their bias speak for them, in the end it will bite them in the ass and they will have only themselves to blame. Honestly at this point I don't care I am just glad I found this safe heaven for us NS and Sakura fans.

[MistFlower]

I used to think that this recent flood of hatred from Sakura was due to the fact that Sakura is getting screentime and powerups instead of characters that some fans would prefer.  I mean, I've always thought that people had a very skewed view of what Sakura was really all about, and that she got a lot, and I mean A LOT, of unnecessary hate over the years.  But now, I think a lot of this is just personal bias against her.  I mean, think about it, what were the main reasons people hated her?

 

1) Being useless. This one has no merit anymore. She has taken over Tsunade's "top medical ninja" position, which was very important when Tsunade did it, yet it is suddenly "less" important when Sakura does it.  She has developed the seal on her forehead, which provides her with more than her regular strength, which is already quite frightening in itself.  She gave a speech on helping Naruto, and again, when it is done by Hinata it is the most useful thing in the world, even promoting Hinata's status up to "Maine Heroine", yet when Sakura does something similar it becomes "completely unnecessary and useless".  She has also assisted in healing Naruto, Kakashi, and many other Shinobi, and this is all just in her recent developments in this war arc, mind you.  So, clearly, she is not useless anymore, so that should not be a reason people hate her, right?

 

2)Sakura's irrational feelings for Sasuke.  With this one, I can actually see the dislike.  Granted, I have never disliked her for this, but I can see where it is coming from.  It is not the reason for hating her for this, per say, that it ridiculous, but rather the double standards involved.  People seem to "hate" her for holding onto these feelings for Sasuke, when he has absolutely no interest in her whatsoever, and he tried to kill her on multiple occasions.  And I admit, it does hold her character back a bit.  However, people cant stand that she might be getting over him, either, if you see what I mean.  Sakura getting over Sasuke can be linked to her acting on her feelings for Naruto, which also exist.  What I'm trying to say, I guess, is that people hate her for her feelings for Sasuke, but also hate it when there is evidence that she is moving on from Sasuke.  It's a horrible double standard, in my opinion.

 

3)Sakura's development of romantic feelings for Naruto.  This one is directly linked with Number 2, and I think its a killer.  In my opinion, nothing but good would come out of Sakura falling for Naruto, which I believe she is doing/already has done.  Sakura would be happy, and so would Naruto.  And since she would have already been in love with him, he would not be a second choice.  Well, for some fans, it seems that seeing both Naruto and Sakura happy is just unbearable.  I mean, the slightest indication of romantic intentions from either side is constantly rebutted against, normally with remarks that hold no water.  This is just another example that people will hate her no matter what she does.

 

4)Sakura treats Naruto terribly. Oh for sure, had to include this one.  She heals him, cries for him, tries to protect him, defends him against Sasuke, tells the alliance to help him, runs to him in his K4 mode and gets injured, worries about him, hugs him, smiles at him, believes in him, defends his goals, fights to defend him in the Shinobi War, thinks of his feelings, and tries to comfort him when Jiraiya dies.  But yeah, she's a horrible person all the way.

 

5)Not as strong as Naruto and Sasuke. This is really the only other reason that I can think of that's worth mentioning, and I can't help but think, really?  No one, in the entire manga at this time, is as much of a powerhouse as Naruto and Sasuke.  And these people expect Sakura to be on par with them? No offense, I love Sakura, but that is not possible, for anyone, except maybe the Edo-Hokages and Madara, maybe.  Sakura is now one of the strongest in the K11, but she's not OP like her teammates.  This is so unjustified...ugh.

 

Well now that these reasons are listed, it seems as though all of them are either double standards or innacurate.  There are other reasons why she's hated, but I didn't feel like listing them, because they're kinda....pointless.  This is why I think that most of her hate nowadays stems form more personal bias against her character.  People can't seem to find really legitimate reasons to dislike her character anymore, other than the pairing-related petty stuff, so they look to bashing her.  This is just what I've seen lately, I'm not saying any of this is fact, heck for all I know, it could all be wrong.

 

Oh geez, I'm sorry this has gotten so long, I kind of ranted.  Heh, I'm still a newbie, so what do you expect?     
 

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Well, it's your opinion on her. As for her being on Kage's level, I don't weight her on levels cause when she uses this seal, it's up for her how to use it and, actually, she can go against a Kage with this.

 

Are you serious ? Tsunade isn't on Kage level ? From what I have seen from her, she's one the strongest characters. I don't remember well what she has done in her fights, but I think you know how far she can go with her skills. Every character has been steamrolled a lot and the most of all of them is Naruto. Typical to be fighting and get steamrolled repeatedly XD

 

Sakura's primary offensive skill is brute force. That's how she goes with her attacks and then uses other abilities. That's even without the seal that we know of, and I don't think that Kishi has finished with Sakura concerning fighting cause I think we'll see more of what she got up in her sleeves. I agree she's more of a supportive but when she truly fights, I don't think she's just supportive.

 

How she's sidelined ? She's healing the alliance in the last chapter means she's sidelined ? Sidelined when a character isn't shown as of recent events, and that doesn't apply on Sakura for healing the alliance. I guess healing has become sensitive to some now... It's not that bad when Sakura is doing one of her jobs especially when she said that she'll take care on healing the alliance in the time being that we saw in the last chapter.

 

I think it's all down to how a person likes to see main characters.

Yes i'm serious, she's support, all the kages have strong abilities and a lot of resources to different situations, Tsunade only has her strenght as offensive ability, she's not on kage's level, she's a support look when Pain attacked the village she could do nothing against him and the only thing she could do was to heal everyone because that is her speciality.

And yes Sakura got sideline because when we all thought she was going to show more offensives skills that could allow her to surpass Tsunade, we got the inverse, the same exact abilitie as Tsunade she only landed one puch which was pretty strong but still she doesnt have much resources and there's even the lack of a strong long ranged attack like Naruto and Sasuke, she got strong but she's nowhere near a kage's level neither close to Naruto and Sasuke just like Tsunade was with Jiraiya and Orochimaru.

[T XD]

Yes i'm serious, she's support, all the kages have strong abilities and a lot of resources to different situations, Tsunade only has her strenght as offensive ability, she's not on kage's level, she's a support look when Pain attacked the village she could do nothing against him and the only thing she could do was to heal everyone because that is her speciality.

And yes Sakura got sideline because when we all thought she was going to show more offensives skills that could allow her to surpass Tsunade, we got the inverse, the same exact abilitie as Tsunade she only landed one puch which was pretty strong but still she doesnt have much resources and there's even the lack of a strong long ranged attack like Naruto and Sasuke, she got strong but she's nowhere near a kage's level neither close to Naruto and Sasuke just like Tsunade was with Jiraiya and Orochimaru.

Pain is for Naruto to deal with. If she were to fight him, there isn't going to be much of a challenge for Naruto and other stuff. I'm talking story perspective for the protagonist.

 

Her fight with Madara has shown some abilities with a technique that she could do. The other Kages shown one type of ability and that's it. They were all fighting with strength. There isn't always a new technique or ability in every single fight for every single character. You basically want Sakura all the time to be head on fighting, gaining some of Naruto's and Sasuke's long ranged attack and to be sure that she's on a Kage level ?... The battle didn't end and possibly we'll see Sakura fighting more in this battle, so hope that all that you want from Sakura to happen to really happen.

 

So, in order for Sakura to not be considered sidelined, she has to show offensive skills every time in this fight... Then I can say when Naruto was being healed, shown talking with his dad and other times that he wasn't fighting in a fight that he was sidelined.

Edited by T XD, 16 June 2013 - 06:36 PM.

[Gravenimage]

I used to think that this recent flood of hatred from Sakura was due to the fact that Sakura is getting screentime and powerups instead of characters that some fans would prefer.  I mean, I've always thought that people had a very skewed view of what Sakura was really all about, and that she got a lot, and I mean A LOT, of unnecessary hate over the years.  But now, I think a lot of this is just personal bias against her.  I mean, think about it, what were the main reasons people hated her?

 

1) Being useless. This one has no merit anymore. She has taken over Tsunade's "top medical ninja" position, which was very important when Tsunade did it, yet it is suddenly "less" important when Sakura does it.  She has developed the seal on her forehead, which provides her with more than her regular strength, which is already quite frightening in itself.  She gave a speech on helping Naruto, and again, when it is done by Hinata it is the most useful thing in the world, even promoting Hinata's status up to "Maine Heroine", yet when Sakura does something similar it becomes "completely unnecessary and useless".  She has also assisted in healing Naruto, Kakashi, and many other Shinobi, and this is all just in her recent developments in this war arc, mind you.  So, clearly, she is not useless anymore, so that should not be a reason people hate her, right?

 

2)Sakura's irrational feelings for Sasuke.  With this one, I can actually see the dislike.  Granted, I have never disliked her for this, but I can see where it is coming from.  It is not the reason for hating her for this, per say, that it ridiculous, but rather the double standards involved.  People seem to "hate" her for holding onto these feelings for Sasuke, when he has absolutely no interest in her whatsoever, and he tried to kill her on multiple occasions.  And I admit, it does hold her character back a bit.  However, people cant stand that she might be getting over him, either, if you see what I mean.  Sakura getting over Sasuke can be linked to her acting on her feelings for Naruto, which also exist.  What I'm trying to say, I guess, is that people hate her for her feelings for Sasuke, but also hate it when there is evidence that she is moving on from Sasuke.  It's a horrible double standard, in my opinion.

 

3)Sakura's development of romantic feelings for Naruto.  This one is directly linked with Number 2, and I think its a killer.  In my opinion, nothing but good would come out of Sakura falling for Naruto, which I believe she is doing/already has done.  Sakura would be happy, and so would Naruto.  And since she would have already been in love with him, he would not be a second choice.  Well, for some fans, it seems that seeing both Naruto and Sakura happy is just unbearable.  I mean, the slightest indication of romantic intentions from either side is constantly rebutted against, normally with remarks that hold no water.  This is just another example that people will hate her no matter what she does.

 

4)Sakura treats Naruto terribly. Oh for sure, had to include this one.  She heals him, cries for him, tries to protect him, defends him against Sasuke, tells the alliance to help him, runs to him in his K4 mode and gets injured, worries about him, hugs him, smiles at him, believes in him, defends his goals, fights to defend him in the Shinobi War, thinks of his feelings, and tries to comfort him when Jiraiya dies.  But yeah, she's a horrible person all the way.

 

5)Not as strong as Naruto and Sasuke. This is really the only other reason that I can think of that's worth mentioning, and I can't help but think, really?  No one, in the entire manga at this time, is as much of a powerhouse as Naruto and Sasuke.  And these people expect Sakura to be on par with them? No offense, I love Sakura, but that is not possible, for anyone, except maybe the Edo-Hokages and Madara, maybe.  Sakura is now one of the strongest in the K11, but she's not OP like her teammates.  This is so unjustified...ugh.

 

Well now that these reasons are listed, it seems as though all of them are either double standards or innacurate.  There are other reasons why she's hated, but I didn't feel like listing them, because they're kinda....pointless.  This is why I think that most of her hate nowadays stems form more personal bias against her character.  People can't seem to find really legitimate reasons to dislike her character anymore, other than the pairing-related petty stuff, so they look to bashing her.  This is just what I've seen lately, I'm not saying any of this is fact, heck for all I know, it could all be wrong.

 

Oh geez, I'm sorry this has gotten so long, I kind of ranted.  Heh, I'm still a newbie, so what do you expect?     
 

 

This^ I completely agree with this. But recently I wondered Kishi knows since Jump Festa 2009 that many of the western fans hate Sakura so maybe he's getting even with those haters. Since 631 till now, Hashirama complimenting Sakura, Shizune complimenting her and again complimenting her on 634 it's like Kishi is rubbing Sakura's greatness in the hater's face. He's saying" Sakura is strong and great whether you like it or not deal with it". 

Edited by Gravenimage, 16 June 2013 - 08:21 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Next thing you know, if Sakura fights in here, Kishi will have Naruto say, "Sakura is so incredibly strong, no, incredible woman! She can be a heroine in a story of any story. Yes! A great one!" I know it's such a reach but don't push Kishi. Lol.

[Gravenimage]

Next thing you know, if Sakura fights in here, Kishi will have Naruto say, "Sakura is so incredibly strong, no, incredible woman! She can be a heroine in a story of any story. Yes! A great one!" I know it's such a reach but don't push Kishi. Lol.

 

Lol I see what you did there.  If Kishi does that, at least the first part.

[TouKen4Life3g]

 
Lol I see what you did there.  If Kishi does that, at least the first part.

Lol hey, they got to accept or suffer more shining moments. Actually, it's more like accept it because they'll keep on coming.

[Lalufuffy]

Hey guys, I'm new here. Is it alright if I just join in the debate? I usually post in the mangafox forum (is it allowed to mention those sites?) and I need to let off steam lol. 

Well, I'll just write something. I think when Sakura confessed to Sasuke she had a certain (positive) image of

him, even though he wanted to take revenge on Itachi. IMO Sakura just misjudged him back then.  

 

PS: I'd really like to post my rant on Sasuke's personality/crimes which thread is best suited for that? Oh and just a question, is it forbidden to mention the opposing pairings? I mean because of that 'vow thread' concerning the popular threads. 

Edited by Lalufuffy, 16 June 2013 - 08:58 PM.

[Chatte]

Next thing you know, if Sakura fights in here, Kishi will have Naruto say, "Sakura is so incredibly strong, no, incredible woman! She can be a heroine in a story of any story. Yes! A great one!" I know it's such a reach but don't push Kishi. Lol.

I kinda see kishi doing this, really.

Remember in part 1 Shika saying about Naruto that he would never make a main character in a story, or something like that.So he could do this with Sakura also, hehe.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Hey guys, I'm new here. Is it alright if I just join in the debate? I usually post in the mangafox forum (is it allowed to mention those sites?) and I need to let off steam lol. 
Well, I'll just write something. I think when Sakura confessed to Sasuke she had a certain (positive) image of
him, even though he wanted to take revenge on Itachi. IMO Sakura just misjudged him back then.  
 
PS: I'd really like to post my rant on Sasuke's personality/crimes which thread is best suited for that? Oh and just a question, is it forbidden to mention the opposing pairings? I mean because of that 'vow thread' concerning the popular threads. 

To certain extent. You can pinpoint the pairing, but don't bash the fans or pairing to the extreme. Give a reasonable reason to bring them up, like for example: "I don't understand why people see Hinata as a heroine. She doesn't have that real quality of it. It's not her fault, she's not made that way." And so forth. Don't just bash because you want to, give it a good reason why you bring it up.

Welcome to H&E. ^_^