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Posted 08 August 2014 - 10:21 PM

Oh boy, your thoughts on this

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First of all, if that was the purpose of that scene, wouldn't Kishi have made it more obvious? When Sakura changed her opinion of Naruto, we were given a look into her thoughts. Interesting theory, but they seem to be reading too much into it.

 

"Hinata has always been used to guide Naruto back to the correct path"

Um...she never guided Naruto anywhere until 615. I say this as someone who respects Hinata's character :ermm: 

In part one, we see the opposite, her being guided to the right path by Naruto. In part two she barely shows up. In the Pain arc, meh...it's only romantic if you make it...or if Kishi comes out later and says so.

 

Besides, why would Naruto stop loving Sakura just because he realized Hinata was always supporting him indirectly? (Especially when he and Sakura are friends while he barely knows Hinata? That Naruto has known Sakura for so long and still loves her...says a lot.) He's obligated to return her feelings now? And if they want to argue that Naruto is falling for Hinata, they need solid proof. Him saying her name (if that's even canon, which it doesn't appear to be) after being brought to his senses by her words and the support of everyone isn't.

Lots of people have supported Naruto at this point and helped to guide him in some way. Is he obligated to fall in love with them, too?

 

ETA:

@ThemagicConch,

Was referring mainly to the Viz translation, but if there are any other official translation, I'd be curious about that, too. (To my understanding, MP and Manga Reader are fan translations.)


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Posted 08 August 2014 - 10:50 PM

First of all, if that was the purpose of that scene, wouldn't Kishi have made it more obvious? When Sakura changed her opinion of Naruto, we were given a look into her thoughts. Interesting theory, but they seem to be reading too much into it.

 

"Hinata has always been used to guide Naruto back to the correct path"

Um...she never guided Naruto anywhere until 615. I say this as someone who respects Hinata's character :ermm: 

In part one, we see the opposite, her being guided to the right path by Naruto. In part two she barely shows up. In the Pain arc, meh...it's only romantic if you make it...or if Kishi comes out later and says so.

 

Besides, why would Naruto stop loving Sakura just because he realized Hinata was always supporting him indirectly? (Especially when he and Sakura are friends while he barely knows Hinata? That Naruto has known Sakura for so long and still loves her...says a lot.) He's obligated to return her feelings now? And if they want to argue that Naruto is falling for Hinata, they need solid proof. Him saying her name (if that's even canon, which it doesn't appear to be) after being brought to his senses by her words and the support of everyone isn't.

Lots of people have supported Naruto at this point and helped to guide him in some way. Is he obligated to fall in love with them, too?

 

ETA:

@ThemagicConch,

Was referring mainly to the Viz translation, but if there are any other official translation, I'd be curious about that, too. (To my understanding, MP and Manga Reader are fan translations.)

Yes they are reading to much into it, it seems

I don't know he compared Jiraiya moments to Hinata's...

He was the one who said Sakura is his girlfriend after all that "NH" moment

 

Viz translation to what scan? Also I'll rather not trust Viz if I were you  


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Posted 08 August 2014 - 10:57 PM

Yes they are reading to much into it, it seems

I don't know he compared Jiraiya moments to Hinata's...

He was the one who said Sakura is his girlfriend after all that "NH" moment

 

Viz translation to what scan? Also I'll rather not trust Viz if I were you  

Where the anime changed Naruto's words to say Hinata's name instead of acknowledging everyone.

 

Meh, I was thinking if Naruto says "you guys" or something like it in the Viz translation, maybe the people declaring NH canon over the change in the anime will shut up about it. (Assuming they read the manga.)

As to whether they're accurate or not, that's not my call to make. I don't speak nor read Japanese. 


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Posted 08 August 2014 - 11:00 PM

But how can that be? I mean, she stalks him 24/7.


Apparently if you stalk somebody long enough you can see into their soul lol She "adopts" his nindo and thinks she knows something about him. Damn I hate NH XD

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 11:38 PM

Apparently if you stalk somebody long enough you can see into their soul lol She "adopts" his nindo and thinks she knows something about him. Damn I hate NH XD


Naruto's obviously not into her she should just stop trying lol
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Posted 08 August 2014 - 11:53 PM

Hinata liked Naruto's ninja way. It was never shown that she believed he would be hokage at that time. One of the first people who started taking that dream seriously and recognizing Naruto's capability was Sakura at chunnin exam. Hinata liked him in a "romantic/girlcrush" way, Sakura was the only  who really supported his dream among them both. You NH's can say she hits him and makes him cry and that Hinata always makes him smile, but that "always" is WHEN Hinata does something, because she barely does anything. She never thought seriously about Naruto being a hokage, Sakura did. All she thinks about is how she wants to be like him and how she wants him by her side. She is SELFISH, not bashing the character, I don't even dislike her, but even she said that, and I agree with her. Almost everything she has done was thinking of herself more than the rest. You NHs can say Sakura wasn't trying to help Naruto, but trying to help herself in bringing Sasuke back, but what about her confession? What about the bunch of times we have saw her thinking of his dream? Believing him? Even when she was crazy about Sasuke in the very beginning of the series (Zabuza and Haku arc), she thought "Sasuke-kun wouldn't lose, Sasuke-kun would never ever lose. NARUTO TOO". You see what I'm saying? She believed him even at that time. Everyone believed Sasuke but she believed Sasuke AND Naruto. So tell them to stop saying bs.


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Posted 08 August 2014 - 11:54 PM

Where the anime changed Naruto's words to say Hinata's name instead of acknowledging everyone.

 

Meh, I was thinking if Naruto says "you guys" or something like it in the Viz translation, maybe the people declaring NH canon over the change in the anime will shut up about it. (Assuming they read the manga.)

As to whether they're accurate or not, that's not my call to make. I don't speak nor read Japanese. 

Yes it does say "you guys"

He does not mention Hinata any where

It's not my call either, but the Japanese fans(and people who know Japanese) here that I have seen told us not to trust Viz


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Posted 08 August 2014 - 11:59 PM

Naruto's obviously not into her she should just stop trying lol

For real. She's a waste of space XD

So I've got a semi-tough question to ask. Would anybody lose respect for Sakura (and in extension, Kishi) if SS were to happen?

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As you can see I hate SS with a passion lol sorry for the length.

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 12:05 AM

For real. She's a waste of space XD
So I've got a semi-tough question to ask. Would anybody lose respect for Sakura (and in extension, Kishi) if SS were to happen?

My answer

As you can see I hate SS with a passion lol sorry for the length.

Well, I wouldn't lose respect for Sakura, because she'll always be my favorite character, no matter who she chooses. I'd just be pissed off by the fact that she chose a relationship that's completely unstable and destructive in general, over a relationship that she could actually have fun and be happy in.
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Posted 09 August 2014 - 12:05 AM

If Sakura continued to love Sasuke because of his good looks then that's not true love.



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Posted 09 August 2014 - 12:08 AM

Well, I wouldn't lose respect for Sakura, because she'll always be my favorite character, no matter who she chooses. I'd just be pissed off by the fact that she chose a relationship that's completely unstable and destructive in general, over a relationship that she could actually have fun and be happy in.

  
Not only that she can be happy in, but the fact that the only person she can be herself around is Naruto. Around Sasuke she lacks self confidence and is extremely submissive. It's disgusting. With Naruto, she can be loud, and be herself.

If Sakura continued to love Sasuke because of his good looks then that's not true love.

Well there really isn't much to go on, considering she knows nothing about him. Her "love" for him was (I don't believe she loves him anymore) just some stupid fangirl thing that grew.

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 12:09 AM

Actually, she still came, but the idea is that I think they either add that scene or alter the line from "You guys..." to "Hinata." Ask someone who saw it.

 

Actually, they did what happened exactly in manga but they add "Hinata" line before Sakura show up and healing Naruto
 
It's like this :
Naruto said "Hinata" then Sakura came to heal Naruto like what did in manga , then he said "you guys...."

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 12:12 AM

I love Sakura, but I'm not joking when I say I won't like her that much anymore if she ends up with Sasuke. Only if Kishi makes a VERY GOOD development, what would cost at least three chapters only for Sakura to truly know Sasuke, for him to apologize in at least two pages of sorriness, save her some times, he would have to kiss her feet for me to barely accept that couple.  :hm:


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Posted 09 August 2014 - 12:15 AM

 

 

Actually, they did what happened exactly in manga but they add "Hinata" line before Sakura show up and healing Naruto
 
It's like this :
Naruto said "Hinata" then Sakura came to heal Naruto like what did in manga , then he said "you guys...."

 

No, Naruto never said Hinata after she said that in the manga 

NVM, didn't carefully read what you said 


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Posted 09 August 2014 - 12:16 AM

I love Sakura, but I'm not joking when I say I won't like her that much anymore if she ends up with Sasuke. Only if Kishi makes a VERY GOOD development, what would cost at least three chapters only for Sakura to truly know Sasuke, for him to apologize in at least two pages of sorriness, save her some times, he would have to kiss her feet for me to barely accept that couple.  :hm:

 

:zaru: For me, I will accept SS if Sakura succeeded in killing Sasuke  :woot:  :hehehe:

 

 

No, Naruto never said Hinata after she said that in the manga 

 

I know

this why I said they add "Hinata" part and remaining is exactly like what happened in manga


Edited by choco2, 09 August 2014 - 12:21 AM.

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 12:17 AM

 

 

Actually, they did what happened exactly in manga but they add "Hinata" line before Sakura show up and healing Naruto
 
It's like this :
Naruto said "Hinata" then Sakura came to heal Naruto like what did in manga , then he said "you guys...."

 

Ah I see. Thank you.



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Posted 09 August 2014 - 12:17 AM

For real. She's a waste of space XD
So I've got a semi-tough question to ask. Would anybody lose respect for Sakura (and in extension, Kishi) if SS were to happen?

My answer

As you can see I hate SS with a passion lol sorry for the length.

Don't sweat it, cuz SS is DEFINITELY not gonna happen :P
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Posted 09 August 2014 - 12:23 AM

 

 

:zaru: For me, I will accept SS if Sakura succeeded in killing Sasuke  :woot:  :hehehe:

 

 

Necrophilia?  :arg:


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Posted 09 August 2014 - 12:23 AM

I'd loose more respect for Kishimoto if SasuSaku happened.
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Posted 09 August 2014 - 12:29 AM

Not only that she can be happy in, but the fact that the only person she can be herself around is Naruto. Around Sasuke she lacks self confidence and is extremely submissive. It's disgusting. With Naruto, she can be loud, and be herself.

Exactly, Sakura's a whole different person when it comes to Sasuke, and I could never support something that messes with her character THAT much.
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