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[Gojira]

It was a childhood crush but what about when that ninja asked her who she loves and she was thinking about Sasuke

Going by the MP translation "If its somebody you love then they're bound to be a great person" she thinks of Sasuke as a counter-example. We don't know who she was referring to originally it was left purposefully debatable and ambigious (otherwise the person she was thinking of whether it be Sasuke, Naruto or Lee) would have appeared in the background like she thought of in chapter 540. 

 

I'm not sure what context the fans in Japan took it as since they're opinion would be more valid then mine via actually being able to read and understand the raw. But the context I got from it was that she was in love with someone (it doesn't show who) then fodder nin says that whoever she loves must be  great person and she thinks of Sasuke as a counter-example as if not everyone she loves or loved is a good person. If we go by the context of Peirrot TV Sasuke probably wasn't the person she was referring to since a couple episodes afterwards she referred to him as "someone she used to love". On top of that you have the 09 interview with Kishi where he flat out says that contrary to what alot of people think, Sakura was honest with her confession.

 

Then we have Kakashi in 675 saying that Sakura feels its her duty to save Sasuke from darkness because he's someone she used to like (which i believe is in direct connection to 540) as if Kishi was trying to tell us Sakura feels sad in 540 because Sasuke (the person she used to like) is in darkness and she wants to save him from that much like Naruto does. 

 

Everything that happened in the LOI arc was basically Sakura letting go of Sasuke romantically and almost putting him down like a rabid dog until Naruto filled her back up with hope that team 7 can be together again. She was getting over Sasuke in a romantic way but still wants to save him from darkness the whole thing was her acknowledging Naruto was the better choice. 

Edited by Pepsi, 07 August 2014 - 11:12 PM.

[BlazingDynamo]

Going by the MP translation "If its somebody you love then they're bound to be a great person" she thinks of Sasuke as a counter-example. We don't know who she was referring to originally it was left purposefully debatable and ambigious (otherwise the person she was thinking of whether it be Sasuke, Naruto or Lee) would have appeared in the background like she thought of in chapter 540. 

 

I'm not sure what context the fans in Japan took it as since they're opinion would be more valid then mine via actually being able to read and understand the raw. But the context I got from it was that she was in love with someone (it doesn't show who) then fodder nin says that whoever she loves must be  great person and she thinks of Sasuke as a counter-example as if not everyone she loves or loved is a good person. If we go by the context of Peirrot TV Sasuke probably wasn't the person she was referring to since a couple episodes afterwards she referred to him as "someone she used to love". On top of that you have the 09 interview with Kishi where he flat out says that contrary to what alot of people think, Sakura was honest with her confession.

 

Then we have Kakashi in 675 saying that Sakura feels its her duty to save Sasuke from darkness because he's someone she used to like (which i believe is in direct connection to 540) as if Kishi was trying to tell us Sakura feels sad in 540 because Sasuke (the person she used to like) is in darkness and she wants to save him from that much like Naruto does. 

 

Everything that happened in the LOI arc was basically Sakura letting go of Sasuke romantically and almost putting him down like a rabid dog until Naruto filled her back up with hope that team 7 can be together again. She was getting over Sasuke in a romantic way but still wants to save him from darkness the whole thing was her acknowledging Naruto was the better choice. 

Well you did mention chapter 675 I forgot about that what Kakashi said.

[rikakim94]

I like Gwen, but MJ has always been number 1 to me. And I know, Batmans definitely not the best with relationships, but I love him and Catwoman together Their honestly a lot better than the other people he's paired up with

 

Speaking about gwen stacy i liked her in the spectacular spider man cartoon. She was cute in it. 

[tonga1]

 

Speaking about gwen stacy i liked her in the spectacular spider man cartoon. She was cute in it. 

she cute ideed ( poor thing she does not know what fate holds for her)

[Swagkura]

Speaking about gwen stacy i liked her in the spectacular spider man cartoon. She was cute in it. 

I loved her in both Spectacular Spiderman and The Amazing Spiderman movies. I was kinda sad when she died though. She was actually pretty cool :)

[BlazingDynamo]

We shouldn't give up hope no matter what!

[Change]

We shouldn't give up hope no matter what!

My faith in Kishimoto is long gone 

Not in the pairing of course 

[BlazingDynamo]

My faith in Kishimoto is long gone 

Not in the pairing of course 

Well Kishi is the author of his story therefore meaning he could do whatever he wants

[luffyq1]

 

Speaking about gwen stacy i liked her in the spectacular spider man cartoon. She was cute in it. 

I remember when they first kissed in that series I screamed like a girl. Too bad she ended up with Harry out of pity and guilt when her heart belonged to Peter.

[Illnevergiveup3]

I remember when they first kissed in that series I screamed like a girl. Too bad she ended up with Harry out of pity and guilt when her heart belonged to Peter.

you and your alternate pairings lol.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I remember when they first kissed in that series I screamed like a girl. Too bad she ended up with Harry out of pity and guilt when her heart belonged to Peter.

They did that? I know the show was pretty good, just maybe the art was throwing me off.

[sakuraharunorealfan]

idk whut 2 say

[Change]

Well Kishi is the author of his story therefore meaning he could do whatever he wants

Yes he can

But an asspull is till an asspull 

[JILLNYN]

About that topic "Faith in Kishimoto" well:

 

I also have faith in Kishimoto or rather his views on the history of Naruto and Sakura in the manga, I think the person who wrote all that beautiful story from the start and took 15 years to write is a very hard fan that love narusaku and is a beautiful creation.

In an interview Kishimoto says he loves the drama and complexity of human relationships in other he said that usually always see stories where the villain becomes good in the end and he wanted to write a story in which the villain would be good in the begining, he think that is unexpected and original.

when I read that comment of Kishimoto I was thinking that narusaku is an equally unique evolution that is reversed about a girl who hates him at the beginning and at the end she loves him and becomes the most important thing for her, I think Kishimoto try that from the Initially, the romantic subplot in this regard is beautifully and masterfully written, can only be done when it is planned from the start.

The words used Kishimoto are also key when speaking about sasusaku and Sakura Kishimoto uses that sentence "her entirely arbitrary choice of love object" and when he talks about Narusaku I notice in Kishimoto evasion and ambiguity by defining it as "sakura is confused" " still wants Sasuke BUT Naruto is very close", "her great feelings for Naruto that Sakura have", or the databook as "new sensei and new feelings ...?

The smart words that Kishimoto use in his interviews, databooks and the manga are very curious when He said something about Sakura and her feelings for Naruto every sentence are planned, and he use very careful words

Why keep such caution and suspense ?, I think Kishimoto saved with much suspicion the Narusaku and rarely talks about this, really is careful, even he admitted thinking much in his dialogues, however right through all these years narusaku written a subtle and very steady, slow but very strong way.

Edited by JILLNYN, 08 August 2014 - 03:53 AM.

[James S Cassidy]

I'm sorry, I saw this today and I have to say something.

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This is why I don't watch the anime anymore. Not only did they make Naruto admire Hinata specifically when he didn't do that in the manga, but they removed Sakura from the scene entirely. I just found this out even if I don't watch the anime, and I have even less reason to do it even more now.

[Illnevergiveup3]

I'm sorry, I saw this today and I have to say something.

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This is why I don't watch the anime anymore. Not only did they make Naruto admire Hinata specifically when he didn't do that in the manga, but they removed Sakura from the scene entirely. I just found this out even if I don't watch the anime, and I have even less reason to do it even more now.

kitten did they really remove Sakura-Chan from a scene like that? Who knows how bad they might try to alter the 631 scene?

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I'm sorry, I saw this today and I have to say something.

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This is why I don't watch the anime anymore. Not only did they make Naruto admire Hinata specifically when he didn't do that in the manga, but they removed Sakura from the scene entirely. I just found this out even if I don't watch the anime, and I have even less reason to do it even more now.

HADUUUUUUUKEN!!!!!!!!!!

Regarding the anime i wish i could know wtf this has an 8.00 on MAL.

 

Story
Story continues where previous Naruto series left off with few years time-skip. If you haven't seen previous series, don't worry. Story this time is full of flashbacks and fillers in case you missed anything from last season. Dialogues are dull, fillers are there just to drag the series (they serve 0 importance and events are instantly forgotten in the first normal episode), pacing is incredibly slow, characters are dumb, fights are predictable.
Story in short, Naruto looks for his lost best buddy who is blinded by revenge against pretty much everyone and gets slowly consumed by darkness. One thing lead to another and now Naruto's trying to save the world. Main themes: friendship and determination.

Art
Animation is almost non-existant. Most episodes consist of still images with slight mouth or limb movements, this makes them all look awfully stiff. It's painfully obvious that they'd rather change a scene than do proper animation. Even in fights, you can see a lot of changes from one still image to another, because the "characters move so fast"... Right.
Background images could be split into 3 types - trees, village, cave. None of these are eye candies really.

Sound
Personally, more often than not I enjoyed opening and ending songs. What's worse though are background sounds. Don't get me wrong, they're not terrible, but they were nice to listen to the first million times. They've become something like a trademark now and watching the episodes muted wouldn't wouldn't make any difference as you can easily guess what'll play.
Voice acting has been ok at best. Naruto is still voiced by a lady.

Character
Characters didn't change at all at start, except they grew bigger and stronger. A lot later there's some development going on, but only between 2 main characters. It's still very refreshing to see though.
So basically, Naruto is still gutsy dude who wants to be the very best and Sasuke is still darkness. That's about it.

Enjoyment
I enjoyed few nice battles or moments. Unfortunately, most of these were partially or completely destroyed by horrible pacing and animation. Most of the rest can be easily skipped.

Overall
Started off as "ok", but for a long time now, this show has been a mass produced garbage made just to milk more money from fans. The only way an episode can keep my attention is if I triple the playback speed.
I suggest you watch this ONLY if you haven't seen the previous season and stop as soon as you start getting bored, because trust me, it will only get worse. Whether we like it or not, Naruto is a big piece of anime history and it shold be experienced by all fans (at least a bit)

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 08 August 2014 - 07:52 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

kitten did they really remove Sakura-Chan from a scene like that? Who knows how bad they might try to alter the 631 scene?

Actually, she still came, but the idea is that I think they either add that scene or alter the line from "You guys..." to "Hinata." Ask someone who saw it.

[Illnevergiveup3]

Actually, she still came, but the idea is that I think they either add that scene or alter the line from "You guys..." to "Hinata." Ask someone who saw it.

okay I understand that she still came but wasn't she supposed to be healing him in that scene?

[Gravenimage]

Pierot been been biased? Or ignorant? Or maybe their love for Hinata is getting in the way of their judgement. Whether its for fan service or ratings Pierot is screwing up again. Maybe its no big deal for the Japanese fandom but it is a big deal for the rest of the world, especially the fans who only watch the anime. They immediately see this and they screamed" NH canon!" makes me feel sorry their reaction when 631 comes. Well that is IF Pierot doesn't kitten up the girlfriend comment scene, seeing their track record with the horrible NH fillers from part 1, ep 166 and now THIS episode I wouldn't be surprise.