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[Greed-Sama]

I know what you mean ciardha Of course I think Minato's cool too oh I have been reading this thread for a while and I'll say you have really good logic
so May I ask? how many here were NaruHina fans at one point? Me, never I just found they didn't match each other at all and they hardly talk to each other too No offence to NaruHina fans but the rabid way they argue about the pairing honestly annoys me but don't get me wrong if It's NaruHina that makes sense to you okay thats fine I'm overall neutral about it however some fanfic pictures make me uncomfortable mainly because they, in my eyes don't seem compatible as many have said would Hinata really deal with someone noisy,loud and brash like Naruto? well thats my opinion but if you disagree thats cool just don't bash me you won't change my opinion and you only get in trouble with the Kages .... yes I read the rules

I remember when I watched Naruto on and off. I only knew that Hinata liked Naruto, and I knew he was the Nine-tails so I was a fan out of pure ignorance. Last November I decided I would watch and read straight through. Became a die hard NaruSaku fan and never looked back.

[ciardha]

I know what you mean ciardha Of course I think Minato's cool too oh I have been reading this thread for a while and I'll say you have really good logic
so May I ask? how many here were NaruHina fans at one point? Me, never I just found they didn't match each other at all and they hardly talk to each other too No offence to NaruHina fans but the rabid way they argue about the pairing honestly annoys me but don't get me wrong if It's NaruHina that makes sense to you okay thats fine I'm overall neutral about it however some fanfic pictures make me uncomfortable mainly because they, in my eyes don't seem compatible as many have said would Hinata really deal with someone noisy,loud and brash like Naruto?

Thanks! Yeah, I've always been a narusaku fan- and that from even seeing the anime first, well just the first episode... Heh, I saw Sakura with Naruto and was like "Oh yeah! Another tsundere girl romantic plotline! I'm finding that manga now!" And yeah I know what you mean by the naruhina fanart, I'm like:

1)Not canon, never will be, this is annoying (I have a dislike for fanfiction or fanart that doesn't portray canon couples)

2)Uh Hinata will never be like that (acting even more tsundere than Sakura, in skimpy clothes or naked- sexing up Naruto, laughing exuberantly like Sakura does, etc... )

3)figure the person doesn't read the manga, only watches the anime and looks at hentai Hinata fanart. (Seriously. I recently saw a naruhina fan in Narutofan's telegram section writing about Naruto and Hinata having S&M sex... )

Basically the same goes for sasusaku shippers. Sasuke is either portrayed as:
1)Even more romantic than Naruto or
2)Acting out S&M sex with Sakura

Again, neither will ever be canon, Sasuke never was nor will be like either. Most Sasunaru fanart follows a very similar line, either S&M or overly romantic, not fitting the characters, plus Naruto doesn't have those kind of feelings for Sasuke. Sasuke does seem to have something like a romantic love for Naruto but it's mixed with equal level hatred.

However, I dislike the narusaku fanfiction and fanart that depicts Sakura being into S&M sex as well- again, not in character. Sakura is barely a tsundere in the manga, and shows early on, although she's certainly very passionate, with a slight voyeuristic tendency, she's very much the likes to be romantically seduced by a man type (which is actually the most common sexual fantasy amongst both Japanese and American women- thus the continuing popularity of shoujo manga and romance novels in the US- where that scenario is often acted out.). Sakura likes to start the act but she's all for the guy then pouring on the skilled romantic charm and taking charge, while she gets swept away. Actually, this tends to be the type of passion enjoyed by the tsundere type in both shoujo and shonen manga. (We even see Akane Tendo- the modern full prototype of the tsundere girl) in Ranma 1/2 have a hint of that in personality (at least twice in the series she has naughty thoughts of Ranma actively seducing her when they were in the dojo alone- while he wasn't even thinking anything approximating that Akane of course goes the full tsundere and gets mad at Ranma for what was just her own subconscious desire making its way to her consciousness. Sakura would react quite differently should such a daydream pop in her head- especially in part 2 of the manga. It would likely strongly inspire her to flirt with Naruto.

[Greed-Sama]

Again, neither will ever be canon, Sasuke never was nor will be like either. Most Sasunaru fanart follows a very similar line, either S&M or overly romantic, not fitting the characters, plus Naruto doesn't have those kind of feelings for Sasuke. Sasuke does seem to have something like a romantic love for Naruto but it's mixed with equal level hatred.

I'm not going to address the rest of this post, but I will address this. Sasuke does not have anything close to a romantic love for Naruto for a multitude of reasons.

[The Tax-Man]

I'm not going to address the rest of this post, but I will address this. Sasuke does not have anything close to a romantic love for Naruto for a multitude of reasons.

LOL true. Where did that come from? Sasuke thinks of Naruto as a brother. Actually scratch that. He hates him. He isn't gay. Like WTF?

[Grace]

It's NaruHina that makes sense to you okay thats fine I'm overall neutral about it however some fanfic pictures make me uncomfortable mainly because they, in my eyes don't seem compatible as many have said would Hinata really deal with someone noisy,loud and brash like Naruto?

While I agree with thinking they're not terribly compatible, you have to give Hinata some credit. Whether or not she really is be able to "deal" with Naruto's personality, don't you think that was something she thought about when she was crushing all over him? I mean, it's not like she just randomly pointed at him and went, "I want THAT one!", then later did a double-take and said, "Ohsnap. Boy's a poster-child for ADD. How to handle him when we inevitably get married and make lots of babies....".

XD

[Greed-Sama]

While I agree with thinking they're not terribly compatible, you have to give Hinata some credit. Whether or not she really is be able to "deal" with Naruto's personality, don't you think that was something she thought about when she was crushing all over him? I mean, it's not like she just randomly pointed at him and went, "I want THAT one!", then later did a double-take and said, "Ohsnap. Boy's a poster-child for ADD. How to handle him when we inevitably get married and make lots of babies....".

XD

Hahahahahaha.

Oh Hinata. You and wanting to make your many Hyuga/Uzumaki babies with an odd combination of stamina and Byakugan. How dare she like someone?

[ciardha]

Hahahahahaha.

Oh Hinata. You and wanting to make your many Hyuga/Uzumaki babies with an odd combination of stamina and Byakugan. How dare she like someone?

I doubt if she ever thought about that. Naruto just being in her personal space made her faint- even in part 2 of the manga. I think it was all a vague romantic adoration on her part- not even to a dream about kissing I'm betting.

[Greed-Sama]

I doubt if she ever thought about that. Naruto just being in her personal space made her faint- even in part 2 of the manga. I think it was all a vague romantic adoration on her part- not even to a dream about kissing I'm betting.

Right cause it's that difficult. Everyone has fantasies about the people they "adore" but it becomes a whole different ball park when they're right next to you.

[Grace]

I doubt if she ever thought about that. Naruto just being in her personal space made her faint- even in part 2 of the manga. I think it was all a vague romantic adoration on her part- not even to a dream about kissing I'm betting.

His presence made her faint in one instance in Part 2--the first time she met him again. After that we've seen her around him a couple different times without fainting =/

[ciardha]

Right cause it's that difficult. Everyone has fantasies about the people they "adore" but it becomes a whole different ball park when they're right next to you.

I'm just saying Kishimoto gave no hints that Hinata ever thought about Naruto except in a very vague romantic adoration manner- when we see her most indepth thoughts about Naruto (during the confession chapter) there's absolutely nothing that hints at even fantasies about a hug, much less a kiss or more. Compare that to Ino glomping Sasuke, Sakura's thoughts and actions about both Sasuke in part 1 and Naruto in part 2, Karin's words and actions about Sasuke, Karui's vague but spoken aloud fantasies, etc... Fan fantasies about Hinata have turned her character in fandom into something her character never was.

[Grace]

I'm just saying Kishimoto gave no hints that Hinata ever thought about Naruto except in a very vague romantic adoration manner- when we see her most indepth thoughts about Naruto (during the confession chapter) there's absolutely nothing that hints at even fantasies about a hug, much less a kiss or more. Compare that to Ino glomping Sasuke, Sakura's thoughts and actions about both Sasuke in part 1 and Naruto in part 2, Karin's words and actions about Sasuke, Karui's vague but spoken aloud fantasies, etc... Fan fantasies about Hinata have turned her character in fandom into something her character never was.

But look at the similarities all of those girls have with each other, which Hinata doesn't have: they're outspoken, idealistic, and (typically) appear like fangirls when thinking of or wanting those things.
Just because Hinata isn't shown to think about them (in the, what, ten panels she gets every 200 or 300 hundred chapters?) doesn't mean she never does. Besides, we've only seen Sakura daydream about kissing Sasuke once or twice, and it was early on in the series, haven't we?

[Phantom_999]

"Ahem" Um Kushina...I HAVE ADD...just thought you' know I'm not insulted anyways good point Hinata may be able to deal with Naruto's personality what I meant was there would be no communication between them Hinata is shy and most of the time around Naruto...actually never mind shy I think she out grew that but over all she isn't loud and talkative like Naruto quite reserve actually so their personalities don't match for sure, even NaruHina fans know that which why I'm guessing some fans, as ciardha and others have pointed out, make fanart of Hinata with a tsundere personality which is, as I'm guessing, an attempt of desperation to portray Naruto and Hinata as (the PERRRRRRRFFFECCCT) canon couple to delude themselves , and you know what also though a minor reason I don't think Blonde matches with black hair personally, think about it Sakura is much more lively and could stop Naruto's antics and control his impulses, I know its a stereotype but still who else can do it? besides Naruto and Sakura are also like best friends which is an important factor, it means not only that they love each other they also thrust each other completely which won't blow up as trust issues, they are open with each other and completely understand each other's feelings. now, though these are all valid reasons any crazed NaruHina fans would probably say "IT'S A MANGA!!! THE CREATOR WILL PAIR UP WHOEVER HE FEELS LIKE PAIRING SO NARUHINA!!! HE DOESN'T NEED A REASON!!!" or something like that and yes it's true I admit, it's been done before but that is not how relationships work in real life though maybe in the old days because children were always arranged to marry whomever their parent's set them up with without complaint, anyways You don't just fall instantly in love and even when you do it takes time to get to know the person and to sort out your feelings for them. Falling in love for the first time and everything working out in reality is a childish fantasy, and Kishimoto-sensei is trying to portray a realistic relationship, because in real life falling in love and getting involved at once will only lead to heartbreak and tragedy A.K.A Romeo and Juliet

Edited by Phantom_999, 17 April 2011 - 01:32 PM.

[Living Lavish]

While I agree with thinking they're not terribly compatible, you have to give Hinata some credit. Whether or not she really is be able to "deal" with Naruto's personality, don't you think that was something she thought about when she was crushing all over him? I mean, it's not like she just randomly pointed at him and went, "I want THAT one!", then later did a double-take and said, "Ohsnap. Boy's a poster-child for ADD. How to handle him when we inevitably get married and make lots of babies....".

XD

thats false. Hinata never knew Naruto personally or the real Naruto. all she did was stalk him when he was young and watch him him in pain(never helped him basically) I know Hinata has liked Naruto for a long time, because she just looks up to him. She sees his willingness to give his all, and she wants that, she wants that ability. She admires him for his heart. but thats role model and that blinds you to the real Naruto, the pervert, loud prankster, smartass, emotional, stubborn show off Naruto! she would have no strength or idea how to handle him .when have you ever seen her calm him down or help him? Hinata is timid and shy theirs no way in hell she would be able to handle Naruto. Naruto in a relationship with her is too much for her. i can imagine what a awkward and boring relationship that would be lol.

Edited by Living Lavish, 17 April 2011 - 03:09 PM.

[ciardha]

thats false. Hinata never knew Naruto personally or the real Naruto. all she did was stalk him when he was young and watch him him in pain(never helped him basically) I know Hinata has liked Naruto for a long time, because she just looks up to him. She sees his willingness to give his all, and she wants that, she wants that ability. She admires him for his heart. but thats role model and that blinds you to the real Naruto, the pervert, loud prankster, smartass, emotional, stubborn show off Naruto! she would have no strength or idea how to handle him .when have you ever seen her calm him down or help him? Hinata is timid and shy theirs no way in hell she would be able to handle Naruto. Naruto in a relationship with her is too much for her. i can imagine what a awkward and boring relationship that would be lol.

Yeah, just look at Hinata's unhappy reaction in 488, when she finally sees a bit of the real Naruto- stubborn and closed mouthed about his plans for fighting Sasuke. Hinata is looking at Naruto like she doesn't like what she's seeing, and has no negative reaction to the others getting verbally tough with him. It's Sakura who stands up for Naruto- even exaggerating the truth of what happened a bit, and following Naruto's lead by saying nothing of what she's heard of his plans. (even though she's worried about what she knows of his plan, and has decided she'll get the details from him when they are away from the others.)

[Miss Soupy]

thats false. Hinata never knew Naruto personally or the real Naruto.

How do you define the 'real' Naruto then? She knew he was a goof-off and prankster, but also saw that there was something great about him, which is why she followed him so closely. The way the manga is presented, Hinata was probably the first person to recognize he was more than he seemed. However, her downfall, like you mentioned, was her inaction and insecurity. Where she was said to understand him, she couldn't bring herself to help him in any way, thus losing the chance to be close to him the way Sakura and Sasuke were. Sakura obviously didn't understand him at the start, nor did she have much desire to try, but gradually she gave him more attention and realized he was admirable and a great person.

all she did was stalk him when he was young and watch him him in pain(never helped him basically) I know Hinata has liked Naruto for a long time, because she just looks up to him. She sees his willingness to give his all, and she wants that, she wants that ability. She admires him for his heart. but thats role model and that blinds you to the real Naruto, the pervert, loud prankster, smartass, emotional, stubborn show off Naruto! she would have no strength or idea how to handle him .when have you ever seen her calm him down or help him? Hinata is timid and shy theirs no way in hell she would be able to handle Naruto. Naruto in a relationship with her is too much for her. i can imagine what a awkward and boring relationship that would be lol.

She admires him for his ability to work hard towards what seems to be an impossible goal. It was something she could relate to because she felt so far behind (and really was) when it came to her own clan. Everybody knew he was a prankster. The part about him that was important for her to model after was his nindo. Just because she didn't model the rest of him, i.e. the prankster, pervert, loud mouth part of himself doesn't mean she didn't know it existed. And anyways, those parts of himself haven't stood out as much since he has gotten older. He is hardly an extreme pervert or prankster anymore.

I do agree that their personalities, to me, would be a boring combination. Mostly because Naruto, I think, would eclipse Hinata's personality quite a bit. You need complimentary personalities, and I think Naruto and Hinata on some points are just extremes opposites.

[Paptala]

Personally, I'd rather have Minato. He's not pervy, he is romantic, kind, smart, kind of goofy in a geeky way, handsome, adores strong willed women even moreso than Naruto... Seriously, Minato is like my total ideal guy.

To each there own - I adore Minato too, but am still more drawn to Naruto's personality. Slightly pervy or not

I think people like Sakura and Sasuke together just because Sasuke's hot and well... they can relate to Sakura, she had the most screen time compared to the other girls plus she was in love with him. Otherwise I don't see how they could end up together without Sasuke having a drastic personality change.

I agree with this - I'm sure that SS shippers see more into than that, but essentially, the fact that Sasuke's hot and the is "tragically angsty cool guy" is what it comes down to.

I agree on one thing. I used to think Sasuke was hot back in part 1, but now he's just too weird. Actually, I don't think he's straight or gay, he just seems asexual...

Sasuke's still physically attractive - it's his personality that's a total turn off to me.

[Living Lavish]

How do you define the 'real' Naruto then? She knew he was a goof-off and prankster, but also saw that there was something great about him, which is why she followed him so closely. The way the manga is presented, Hinata was probably the first person to recognize he was more than he seemed. However, her downfall, like you mentioned, was her inaction and insecurity. Where she was said to understand him, she couldn't bring herself to help him in any way, thus losing the chance to be close to him the way Sakura and Sasuke were. Sakura obviously didn't understand him at the start, nor did she have much desire to try, but gradually she gave him more attention and realized he was admirable and a great person.


She admires him for his ability to work hard towards what seems to be an impossible goal. It was something she could relate to because she felt so far behind (and really was) when it came to her own clan. Everybody knew he was a prankster. The part about him that was important for her to model after was his nindo. Just because she didn't model the rest of him, i.e. the prankster, pervert, loud mouth part of himself doesn't mean she didn't know it existed. And anyways, those parts of himself haven't stood out as much since he has gotten older. He is hardly an extreme pervert or prankster anymore.

I do agree that their personalities, to me, would be a boring combination. Mostly because Naruto, I think, would eclipse Hinata's personality quite a bit. You need complimentary personalities, and I think Naruto and Hinata on some points are just extremes opposites.

Why are you even debating this!?

I mean Hinata never got to know his personality whats hes likes dislikes kitten like that etc. only what she sees. if ever in a relationship with him she would see his role model side and that would overshadow his actually personality and thats blinds her to the his flaws and all! she would be very submissive and agree with Naruto on everything.

Naruto is still all those things i said, but he did grow out of being a prankster thats true. all im saying is she wouldn't know how to handle hes goofy side(im aware she sees this) awkward perverted side, stop him from getting out of line or how to calm him down like only Sakura can and say the right words. (he is a role model she wants to be like him thats what she loves)

thats all i'm saying. i think you agree in the last sentence right?

[Miss Soupy]

Why are you even debating this!?

Um, because you said something I didn't agree with (Hinata not knowing the real Naruto)? Is this not a debate thread..?

thats all i'm saying. i think you agree in the last sentence right?

I said I agreed that NaruHina would be a boring relationship, yeah.

[Living Lavish]

Um, because you said something I didn't agree with (Hinata not knowing the real Naruto)? Is this not a debate thread..?


I said I agreed that NaruHina would be a boring relationship, yeah.

i know shes aware of who he is. i said she didnt know the real Naruto as in his personality getting to know him.

Edited by Living Lavish, 17 April 2011 - 06:50 PM.

[Yoshimoya]

NaruHina, SasukSaku.... both are just wrong haha. Only NaruSaku clicks for me, they got that spark ;D