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[DextersBro]

Bleach is awesome. I used to watch the anime on adultswim.   Since you guys are talking about the couples I'll just say that my fav is Ichigo x Orihime.  

[mone_]

 

I agree but that special bond doesn't mean it's romantic.  I think Ishida x Orihime is cute but I don't actually want it for canon.  What other pairings do you like besides IR and IshiHIme?

 

Of course it doesn't mean anything (yet?). Just as Ichigo's blushing towards Yoruichi, Matsumoto, Orihime and Rukia's peaches does only mean he's awkward around nakedness and not attracted to them. Jeez, it's actually frustrating how the authors keep putting certain 'hints' of more than one pairing (e.g. in Bleach - Ichigo and Rukia's bond, Renji's care for Rukia, Orihime's love for Ichigo, Ishida's care for Orihime etc.) to play with the fans and make only one pairing canon in the end. But at least Kubo seems to respect what he writes and I heard he said that "it's a disgrace to write what you do not like/do not believe in". For which I give him respect.

 

As for other pairings, thanks for asking! I've got quite a few.

IshiHime - because Ishida cares for Orihime, she's a princess (OriHIME) and he's a prince (of light), also parallels to Ryuuken and Katagiri.

UlquiHime - I used to like it quite a lot because of that whole capturer-captured concept, also because the always indiferrent Ulquiorra seemed to take actual interest in Orihime. Oh, and at the brink of his demise he actually wanted to take Orihime's hand in his and finally realised that the Heart is in his hand. But even if I liked it, I never quite believed in it.

HitsuMatsu - I like their dynamics and friendly bond, but of course I would only support their romantic bond once (if ever) Hitsugaya grows up. Otherwise, I respect GinRan and believe that Gin is the only one Rangiku will ever love. And HitsuMomo - it has a good chance of becoming canon and I admit it, even if I don't like this pairing.

NnoiNel - I both like and dislike this pairing at the same time. While it's appealing for the possible sexual tension and the "bad guy turned good for the girl he likes" concept, I also think Nnoitra is a bad person and Nel does not deserve to be with someone who tried to kill her. SasuSaku anyone? 

Masshin and Ryuugiri - for obvious reasons.

 

What other pairings do you like, Aizen-sama?

Edited by mone_, 17 May 2015 - 08:43 AM.

[Aizen-Sama]

 

Of course it doesn't mean anything (yet?). Just as Ichigo's blushing towards Yoruichi, Matsumoto, Orihime and Rukia's peaches does only mean he's awkward around nakedness and not attracted to them. Jeez, it's actually frustrating how the authors keep putting certain 'hints' of more than one pairing (e.g. in Bleach - Ichigo and Rukia's bond, Renji's care for Rukia, Orihime's love for Ichigo, Ishida's care for Orihime etc.) to play with the fans and make only one pairing canon in the end. But at least Kubo seems to respect what he writes and I heard he said that "it's a disgrace to write what you do not like/do not believe in". For which I give him respect.

 

As for other pairings, thanks for asking! I've got quite a few.

IshiHime - because Ishida cares for Orihime, she's a princess (OriHIME) and he's a prince (of light), also parallels to Ryuuken and Katagiri.

UlquiHime - I used to like it quite a lot because of that whole capturer-captured concept, also because the always indiferrent Ulquiorra seemed to take actual interest in Orihime. Oh, and at the brink of his demise he actually wanted to take Orihime's hand in his and finally realised that the Heart is in his hand. But even if I liked it, I never quite believed in it.

HitsuMatsu - I like their dynamics and friendly bond, but of course I would only support their romantic bond once (if ever) Hitsugaya grows up. Otherwise, I respect GinRan and believe that Gin is the only one Rangiku will ever love.

NnoiNel - I both like and dislike this pairing at the same time. While it's appealing for the possible sexual tension and the "bad guy turned good for the girl he likes" concept, I also think Nnoitra is a bad person and Nel does not deserve to be with someone who tried to kill her. SasuSaku anyone? 

Masshin and Ryuugiri - for obvious reasons.

 

What other pairings do you like, Aizen-sama?

 

I don't think Kubo is trolling us with the pairings, at least not as bad as Kishimoto, he's got more integrity than that IMO.

Well I actually think Ishida x Orihime is more of a threat to IchiHime since it's arguable that Ishida may actually have some romantic feelings for Orihime, with all the stares and over protectiveness he gives her. xD 

I used to be a hardcore UlquiHime fan but only for the hot fanfiction and fanart.  I got kinda bored of it but seeing beautiful fanart of it still excites me.

Hitsugaya x Hinamori for me. xD

GinRan, duh!  But since he died I think Rangiku would go good with that 69 tattoo guy....god, what the f-ck's his name?

I hate NnoiNel, Nnoitora's an assh-le and him and Nel tried to kill eachother.  Not even as a love/hate relationship I like it.

And uhh, I kinda have a thing for Ryuuken x Masaki?  Even though they're cousins? (can't believe I said that)  But poor Katagiri, I think that this is one of the reasons Uryu hates his dad so much.

[DextersBro]

Besides IchigoHime I also like Rukia x Renji.  I'm surprised Bleach is still up and running, these Japanese guys like their money.

[rocci]

 
I'm NOT diminishing it! I said that Ichigo cares for Orihime the same as he cares for his other nakama - while he shares a special bond with Rukia.

Ichigo doesn't romantically love anyone.
Orihime has advantage over rukia Eventhought rukia is second important character, her role easily compare to other ichigo friends. What make her character special is she's the one who make ichigo as shinigami.

If ichiruki become canon, kubo will make sudden interest for both of them.
If ichihime become canon, kubo will make sudden interest for ichigo since orihime already in love with him.

Ichiruki could easily win the argument if one of them has romantic feeling. If both of them has feeling, it's a straight canon.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Ichigo doesn't romantically love anyone.
Orihime has advantage over rukia Eventhought rukia is second important character, her role easily compare to other ichigo friends. What make her character special is she's the one who make ichigo as shinigami.

If ichiruki become canon, kubo will make sudden interest for both of them.
If ichihime become canon, kubo will make sudden interest for ichigo since orihime already in love with him.

Ichiruki could easily win the argument if one of them has romantic feeling. If both of them has feeling, it's a straight canon.

That is true.

 

That said kind of funny that hateable character(s) getting paired in the so called holy trinity of WSJ. I guess OP is the only one that is "safe" yet it has no romance. What a world.

[mone_]

Ichigo doesn't romantically love anyone.
Orihime has advantage over rukia Eventhought rukia is second important character, her role easily compare to other ichigo friends. What make her character special is she's the one who make ichigo as shinigami.

If ichiruki become canon, kubo will make sudden interest for both of them.
If ichihime become canon, kubo will make sudden interest for ichigo since orihime already in love with him.

Ichiruki could easily win the argument if one of them has romantic feeling. If both of them has feeling, it's a straight canon.

 

I get your point, but IchiRuki is based on the notion that there is already something going on between them - i.e. they have feelings for each other but both do not realise that yet. There are plenty of hints in the manga suggesting that Rukia's role is NOT easily comparable to other friends. It's more, as Kubo himself said.

 

IchiHime, on the other hand, is based on the notion that Ichigo will have sudden interest for Orihime. While there's nothing sudden in IchiRuki - they already share a deep bond. That's the main difference, I think.

[luffyq1]

ichigo doesn't like anyone and i have no reason to believe otherwise considering how far along in the story we've progressed to. ichigo x ichigo is more likely than any other ichigo pair. the only characters feelings that have been explicitly stated for years is orihime's. but that doesn't mean that ichigo will return her feelings, because like i said he doesn't like anyone like that.

Edited by luffyq1, 17 May 2015 - 03:03 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Amazing how this thread is pretty active more so than many others, including one or two Naruto threads.

[AHK]

How can there be a "choice" when Ichigo isn't in love with either Rukia or Orihime?  I agree, let the guy do what he wants instead of trying to say there's some sort of love triangle when there is not.  I think Orihime's a better match for Ichigo because she's actually in love with him unlike Rukia.  IchiRuki "romance" is ambiguous.  It's not confirmed unlike Orihime's love for Ichigo. 
As I said before strong bond =/= romance.  Just because a guy and a girl share a strong friendship doesn't mean they're going to hook up.  Orihime's case is different because she has romantic feelings for Ichigo. 
This is why I don't like IR, it has to diminish Ichigo's bond with his other friends in order to make an argument.  Yes Ichigo and Rukia have a strong bond but that doesn't make Ichigo and Orihime's friendship any less close or mean that Orihime isn't a good match for him.  It's not about who has the "strongest bond", it's about who's going to end up with eachother romantically.  Rukia is an old dead girl with no romantic connection to Ichigo while Orihime is a living teenage girl who's in love with Ichigo, goes to his school, and lives in the same town as him.  Orihime is the more logical choice.
Rukia also has a strong bond with Renji, why do you ignore this and only make a case for IchiRuki?  It's hypocritical to dismiss any romantic evidence that IchiHime and RenRuki may get yet take it for granted that Ichigo and Rukia are already in love with eachother when they have zero evidence of it.  You try to dismiss any hints that shows Ichigo may be attracted to Orihime yet automatically assume that he's already in love with Rukia?  IR has to prove itself just as much as IH.
Also why would Kubo focus so much on Orihime's love for Ichigo if Rukia was his supposed love interest?  He's set her feelings in stone since the pilot chapter where Rukia herself teased Ichigo about liking Orihime.  If Ichigo had a crush on Rukia it would be different, but he doesn't.  Orihime and Rukia are both good friends of Ichigo, but Orihime is the better romantic choice because she's the one who's in love with him.
But I know I'm not going to change your mind about this no matter how much evidence I give you so I don't really see the point of debating this with you anymore.  You'll continue to support IchiRuki while I'll continue to support IchiHime so wanna just drop this?

Once again, because Orihime is in love with him, he's obligated to return it? Just because she's in love with him doesn't imply that she's a better match, it doesn't do that at all. Take a look at the Naruto series

I'm not diminishing anything, I already said that the bond between Ichigo and Orihime is strong, that doesn't meant that I can't say that Rukia's and Ichigo's is stronger, when that's a fact. As I said, when Ichigo was down, the only person that could lift him up, time in and time out, is Rukia. That's part of the reason Orihime was jealous of them in the first place, because she couldn't do that.

There had been plenty of stuff to suggest that Rukia loves him, you're just ignoring it. Again, stating that Orihime is a better match because they live in the same area is asinine, especially if you consider that it has been heavily foreshadowed that Ichigo will not be able to return to the living world after this fight. I haven't said anything about Renji and Rukia because it isn't the topic of discussion, and is irrelevant to the debate we're currently having. I'm not dismissing anything, you haven't provided anything to show that Ichigo loves Orihime. The only thing you've done is tell me that Orihime is better because she loves him, once again making it all about her. The person being most dismissive here is you, not me.

[LuckyChi7]

And so the second great pairing war has now begun.

[AHK]

And so the second great pairing war has now begun.

Lol nah. To be honest, I've always thought the Naruto pairing war was a lot worse than bleach. Bleach is a tame little puppy compared to Naruto XD

[Aizen-Sama]

Once again, because Orihime is in love with him, he's obligated to return it? Just because she's in love with him doesn't imply that she's a better match, it doesn't do that at all. Take a look at the Naruto series

I'm not diminishing anything, I already said that the bond between Ichigo and Orihime is strong, that doesn't meant that I can't say that Rukia's and Ichigo's is stronger, when that's a fact. As I said, when Ichigo was down, the only person that could lift him up, time in and time out, is Rukia. That's part of the reason Orihime was jealous of them in the first place, because she couldn't do that.

There had been plenty of stuff to suggest that Rukia loves him, you're just ignoring it. Again, stating that Orihime is a better match because they live in the same area is asinine, especially if you consider that it has been heavily foreshadowed that Ichigo will not be able to return to the living world after this fight. I haven't said anything about Renji and Rukia because it isn't the topic of discussion, and is irrelevant to the debate we're currently having. I'm not dismissing anything, *you haven't provided anything to show that Ichigo loves Orihime. The only thing you've done is tell me that Orihime is better because she loves him, once again making it all about her. The person being most dismissive here is you, not me.

 

How is comparing Bleach and Naruto proof?  They are two completely different series.

It's not only because Orihime is in love with Ichigo that she's a better match but she's also a good friend of his.  Rukia is too but the difference is that Orihime's a living teenager like Ichigo who lives in his hometown and has more chances to interact with him unlike Rukia who not only has no romantic feelings for Ichigo, but is also dead and lives in the Soul Society.

That's not true, Chad was able to throw Ichigo out of his funk when he was depressed after Uryu betrayed them, and Orihime is the one who encouraged Ichigo to go save Rukia during the Soul Society arc.  Rukia is not the "only one" who can make Ichigo happy and he is not co-dependent on one person.

There has been no hard evidence that Rukia is in love with Ichigo, it's ambiguous.  Orihime being in love with Ichigo is canon. 

You just said in your last post that Ichigo staying in the Soul Society doesn't automatically mean he'll hook up with Rukia and now you're saying the opposite?

And you haven't proven that either Ichigo or Rukia are in love with eachother.  I'm able to prove that Orihime is in love with Ichigo and yet you dismiss the non-romance of IR and only expect me to prove that Ichigo is in love with Orihime?

RenRuki is relevant because it contradicts the IR pairing whom Rukia is part of.  It's possible that Renji has romantic feelings for Rukia as it was stated in the Bleach: Hell Verse movie guide manual that he's "secretly in love with his childhood friend Rukia".  If that's so then he would make a good match for Rukia who is dead and lives in the Soul Society like him along with the two being best friends.

I'm not dismissive, I'm only stating canon facts and you counter with arguments that have not been proven, such as Orihime being less of a friend to Ichigo, Rukia and Ichigo being in love with eachother, and Ichigo depending on Rukia for his happiness and no one else.  As I said arguing is pointless because you'll continue on believing what you want despite the evidence I give.  And that's okay because people can ship what they want.

[DextersBro]

I agree with aizen-sama.  Theres no point in arguing about ichihime vs ichiruki because people will continue to ship what they want.  All in all, I think aizen-sama makes some strong points and that ichigo x orihime is more likely to happen.  No offense to ichiruki shippers. :)

[Aizen-Sama]

And so the second great pairing war has now begun.

 

Yeah I know you like Ichigo x Rukia, Lucky, and I don't mean any offense to you.   I'm just debating the pairings. xD

 

I agree with aizen-sama.  Theres no point in arguing about ichihime vs ichiruki because people will continue to ship what they want.  All in all, I think aizen-sama makes some strong points

 

Thanks. :)

[DextersBro]

 

Thanks. :)

 No problem sis. :)  I like talking about the bleach story more than the couples.  Like is the anime ever going to return?  I hope it does and they air in on adultswim again.

[RyohkiFan]

Both ships has potential whether we like it or not if it's friendship or not, so I feel the debates could go either way for me, if something happens, it happens lol

[Sprite]

@AHK ayy cuz, why is you even rapping with a female like that? I been peeping all that kitten you be doing and Ima go in your kitten if I see you do it again, I ain't even much kittening off bra. quit flexing on her and furthermore go kitten yourself pussy ass kitten n*gga.

Edited by Sprite, 17 May 2015 - 10:09 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

In order to get a Gaiden, get a pairing that is popular.

[luffyq1]

@AHK ayy cuz, why is you even rapping with a female like that? I been peeping all that kitten you be doing and Ima go in your kitten if I see you do it again, I ain't even much kittening off bra. quit flexing on her and furthermore go kitten yourself pussy ass kitten n*gga.

Edited by luffyq1, 17 May 2015 - 10:23 PM.