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#2581 4000TMNT

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 02:46 AM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jul 2 2012, 10:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If he do that and that's a big" if" then he would have trolled the NS fandom big time. But that won't happen he's been developing NS for years and he's not going to use one movie to change his well developed pairing of choice to one side love. Besides if he does make NH and SS what kind of bad message he'll be sending to the reader???

-That no matter how hard you try to make the girl you love happy she will always love the other guy.

-That no matter what you can't fall in love with the one person who has been there for you and supported you when you needed the most.

-That no matter what you have no choice but to forever love the person who has never love you and could care less for you, including attempting to kill you several times.

Kishi is aware of these choices if he does make those pairings making his long development for NS but a waste of time proving that he's writing will be worse than Rowling when it comes to developing a pairing for Harry.



You got good points, but I'm just wondering how the movie is gonna end for Naruto and Sakura feelings. Is kishi gonna give us hints on NaruSaku future or is he gonna make Sakura feelings remain the same for Sasuke (Sakura still has feelings for Sasuke in the manga).


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Posted 03 July 2012 - 02:57 AM

QUOTE (4000TMNT @ Jul 2 2012, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You got good points, but I'm just wondering how the movie is gonna end for Naruto and Sakura feelings. Is kishi gonna give us hints on NaruSaku future or is he gonna make Sakura feelings remain the same for Sasuke (Sakura still has feelings for Sasuke in the manga).

If anything, he will just boost more on NaruSaku side and SasuSaku will just remain the same: nothing but slippery slope. You got to remember, Sakura have two feelings and one of them is confused (Naruto). This is common to people who is confused. Actually, in anime/manga, so far I have seen moments where heroine doesn't understand their feelings, and soon, she understands her true feelings. That's why I believe NaruSaku will become canon. She's in a loop and soon, she will escape it.

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 03:15 AM

QUOTE (Strangelove @ Jul 2 2012, 08:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well considering that the AU Hinata and the real world Hinata are polar opposites. I guess the AU Hinata being jealous for Naruto relation with Sakura, means that the RW Hinata, doesn't feel jealousy about Naruto's relation with Sakura.

I find that really amusing, actually. If her feelings for Naruto were as strong as some fans suggest, one would think that she would be jealous or at least experience feelings of insecurity around Sakura in the manga, but we never see that.

We do, however, see Sakura acknowledging that Hinata has feelings for Naruto and looking somewhat upset about it: http://mangafox.me/m...v47/c442/1.html

( http://www.mangaread...hapter-442.html <----Might I also point out that the translation of this scene is a little more pushy about Hinata's feelings in one translation than it is in the other? I wonder why that is... I guess that's a topic that belongs in a different thread, but I just thought I would point it out~)

Interesting~ happy.gif

Edited by Slextrem, 03 July 2012 - 03:16 AM.


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Posted 03 July 2012 - 03:17 AM

This is a reminder:

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We've seen a lot of character and pairing bashings here that some of you are ignoring the rules and the moderators whom are trying to keep the trouble out of here.

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 03:23 AM

sooo.....no info on AU lee?

:o is he not a ninja or something?

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 03:32 AM

QUOTE (TerrorKing @ Jul 2 2012, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ah okay, now I understand. Seems I kinda misunderstood what you were trying to say. sweatdrop.gif

But yes, I also "Careful what you wish for" is definetly going to be a major theme of this movie, as I also mentioned some pages back, not just for the the fans, but also for Naruto and Sakura. I think that at first, Naruto will be ecstatic to see his parents alive, but then as time goes on, he will realize that this world isn't real and that being stuck in the past is not the way to go. "You can't move forward by going back".

As for Sakura, I believe that she will also be thrilled to finally see the Sasuke that she always wanted when she was little, but ulitmately she will come to understand that this isn't what she really wants-


She figured that out a long time ago. Naruto, and even has outright said so (chapters 469-70). Look at chapters 245, 297, 343, 450, 469-70, 474, and how Sakura reacts to Naruto's rescue of her for absolute proof. I get a bit annoyed at the people who go on about chapter 540 as if it says Sakura is still the swooning 12 year old Sasuke fangirl- does she look happy? Nope, she looks sick and ashamed that she failed Naruto and wasn't able to eliminate every bit of the memories of her feelings for Sasuke, and feels sick and ashamed of herself as a person-beating herself up as some sort of sick person for having even the remnant of the memories of those feelings. Instead of trashing Sakura as still being a swoony Sasuke fangirl, you are supposed to feel sympathy for her agony. She didn't realize it would be harder than she thought to eliminate all those feelings.

It's more like Sakura will be kind of freaked out by seeing this Sasuke that acts like what the naive 12 year old Sakura thought she wanted. To 16-17 year old Sakura it will feel overblown and creepy. Sakura is a calmer person than Naruto when she is freaked out. As I pointed out before "doki doki" is also attributed to someone panicking inside. And considering she flinches back, clutches her hands tightly on her robe and her eyes look kind of freaked out, I think it's obvious that she isn't getting all swoony about it.

And Slextrem, I see that as a misinterpretation of the scene- People are reading it as if Sakura knew Hinata made her confession, we know Sakura did not. Sakura didn't even know the sequence of when Hinata went out and when Naruto went 6 tails. I see it more as it brings back to the fore Sakura's own romantic feelings for Naruto (Note the kind of romantic image of Naruto in Sakura's thoughts...) Sakura has known for certain that those confusing affectionate and concerned feelings she has had for Naruto since sometime before chapter 245, was romantic love since Yamato made it clear to her in chapter 297.) From Sakura's perspective Hinata did exactly the same thing she had done in 296. She probably thought Hinata got hurt in something of the same way Sakura had. She figured Hinata cared deeply for Naruto too, it was more a reminder of her own foolish act and she was telling Hinata to not put her life in danger for something she couldn't fix that way. It reinforced to Sakura that she indeed was in love with Naruto... Thus the romantic hug of Naruto in front of the whole village in chapter 450.

It's almost exactly like how the love letter nin reminds her in a painful way of the girl she used to be who crushed on someone who had no feelings for her whatsoever, and how she thinks how awful and sick a person she is to still have any feelings whatsoever for the monstrous person she sees as the real Sasuke- It draws her inside herself, makes her dwell on her own feelings. Both moments are painful, but regarding her feelings for Naruto, just mildly so, and it motivates her to show her feelings openly to Naruto yet again. Thinking about the remnants of the memories of her feelings for Sasuke makes her start to get depressed. Luckily this is part 2 Sakura and it doesn't affect her mind and skills as a ninja and she quickly takes down Zetsu Neiji with a combo of sharp intelligence and physical strength...

Edited by ciardha, 03 July 2012 - 04:15 AM.

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 03:43 AM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Jul 2 2012, 10:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I find that really amusing, actually. If her feelings for Naruto were as strong as some fans suggest, one would think that she would be jealous or at least experience feelings of insecurity around Sakura in the manga, but we never see that.

We do, however, see Sakura acknowledging that Hinata has feelings for Naruto and looking somewhat upset about it: http://mangafox.me/m...v47/c442/1.html

( http://www.mangaread...hapter-442.html <----Might I also point out that the translation of this scene is a little more pushy about Hinata's feelings in one translation than it is in the other? I wonder why that is... I guess that's a topic that belongs in a different thread, but I just thought I would point it out~)

Interesting~ happy.gif

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 03:55 AM

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Why are neither of those manga links working for me? x_x


Must be network problems it happens to me too sometimes. Try refreshing the page or turning off your modem unit and back on.
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 05:08 AM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Jul 3 2012, 08:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Since Sasuke is very showy with his feelings, maybe Hinata will accuse Sakura of being a two timer, annoyed that she hangs around with Naruto when she already has Sasuke after her. Maybe something like:

Sakura: Hey, stop strangling him.

Hinata: That's none of you're business. If you already have Sasuke why do you insist on being around Naruto?


Now this, is what I would love to happen. An armor-piercing question about her feelings.

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 05:33 AM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Jul 3 2012, 04:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
sooo.....no info on AU lee?

:o is he not a ninja or something?


That'd be interesting to see... I can't remember if I seen anything about him. headscratch.gif I'm not exactly a reliable source of info anyway sweatdrop.gif

He's already so .... youthful as it is, maybe he'd have more like Shino's personality, or Sasuke's even (minus the avenger/dark personality trait). A really laid back attitude, lazy maybe.
 
 
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 05:38 AM

QUOTE (Quinny52 @ Jul 2 2012, 06:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Exactly, that's all these teasers are, to get our attention, get us interested and anticipating.
However, while I don't doubt we[NS] will be getting som nice interaction, and moments, but would it kill them to show us SOMETHING in these teasers?!! rawr.gif

Throw us some bones here...arg.gif


I think people should ask them to show us something of Sakura's involvement in the real plotline instead of just the minor point of Sasuke comedically stalking her. Sakura is one of the main characters of the movie but we've seen almost nothing of her involvement in the real plotline.

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Maybe if enough people ask for something that hints at Sakura's involvement in the real plotline with Naruto, Minato and Kushina, they'll post an storyboard sketch or something. (Years ago Yuu Watase urged American fans to write to Studio Pierrot on an issue with the animation, she said Pierrot would listen to the fans, including American ones, more than they would her. The more people write the more the animators will see fans are hungry to see Sakura doing heroic acts in the anime....)

Even being a narusaku shipper and as much as I'd love to see romantic narusaku scenes, at this point I'd like to see Pierrot acknowledge Sakura's intelligence and skills in some scenes even more. Even if there are romantic narusaku scenes in the movie (and I'm expecting there will be a few.) I'll feel disappointed if Sakura doesn't have at least one scene where she is talking with Minato and they trying to figure out how to break the genjutsu. Minato and Sakura have somewhat similar thinking styles and it would be a great showcase for Sakura's character to have this kind of scene.

I also feel certain Sakura will have at least a couple of fighting scenes, but I want to see her other strengths on display in this movie. Pierrot has occasionally shown Sakura fighting in non canon material, but other than part 1's movie 3 I can't recall a filler that Pierrot did that showed Sakura's intelligence as part of her victory in battle, and in showing she perceived another person more deeply than she let on (They didn't overblow her tsundere side for once- it was very close to manga canon Sakura- which is big part of why that movie is my favorite of the part 1 movies. Naruto isn't written as stupid and loudmouthed as Pierrot usually overblew him in part 1 either, that's the other big reason) It, and Shippuden movie 3 are the only ones so far that I could watch more than once, and actually enjoyed. (although Pierrot does the usual and way overblows Sakura's tsundere side in Will of Fire, at least it keeps being reinforced that Sakura acts this way because Naruto is the guy she loves... Still, I would have greatly preferred in the hospital room scene at least to see Sakura acting more like her manga canon self would in part 2- see the hospital flashback scene in chapter 343...)

As for Rock Lee, if you slow down the trailer that was just released and posted on here yesterday afternoon, there's a quick glimpse of Rock Lee (looked the same from what I could see) with Guy in a fight scene with the Akatsuki. There's a quick glimpse of Tenten as well. Sakura still only gets two brief scenes, the one with Sasuke that has been discussed ad nauseam and a newish (showed up first in the June 29th trailer) face shot that looks to be on the battlefield. Wonder why they've cut out the bleeding arm, anguished expression clip from all the trailers since the second one- the only one it was shown in... I thought it was quite an effective clip of Sakura from the movie, a far sight more interesting than what's shown up in other trailers- at least it shows her involvement in the main plot....

Edited by ciardha, 03 July 2012 - 05:52 AM.

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 07:34 AM

@ciardha - i agree with what you're saying, and allow me to clarify, my last post implied that I'm only interested in seeing some NS fluff in these trailers, but don't get me wrong. At this point, I'd love to ANYTHING Sakura-related in these trailers, with the obvious exception of what's been seen so far (for equally obvious reasons dry.gif).
And yeah, a scene with Sakura and/or Minato/Kushina would be great. Afterall, there's nothing like a dastardly plot from a villain to encourage a little family bonding. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE (kirabook @ Jul 3 2012, 12:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Looks photoshopped to me.... why would Naruto be making that face and blushing? Maybe Hinata the yandere would be blushing at that, but not Naruto.

Sorry for the possibly double post, but it's photoshopped. It's this frame right here with Hinata all edited. Unless the scene switches there and her face suddenly becomes calm and Naruto is in the exact same position and everything is exactly the same on the screen (The japanese subs) Then it's photoshopped.


Did anyone notice that the text on this screenshot is coloured orange and pink?
A combination that seems to be popping up often, eh? tongue.gif

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 07:40 AM

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That'd be interesting to see... I can't remember if I seen anything about him. headscratch.gif I'm not exactly a reliable source of info anyway sweatdrop.gif

He's already so .... youthful as it is, maybe he'd have more like Shino's personality, or Sasuke's even (minus the avenger/dark personality trait). A really laid back attitude, lazy maybe.

Maybe he has this 'hakuna matata' attitude, no worries and loves hammocks and Hawaii drinks th_7eyytubokky7rehok1k.gif

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 07:44 AM

QUOTE (Quinny52 @ Jul 3 2012, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@ciardha - i agree with what you're saying, and allow me to clarify, my last post implied that I'm only interested in seeing some NS fluff in these trailers, but don't get me wrong. At this point, I'd love to ANYTHING Sakura-related in these trailers, with the obvious exception of what's been seen so far (for equally obvious reasons dry.gif).
And yeah, a scene with Sakura and/or Minato/Kushina would be great. Afterall, there's nothing like a dastardly plot from a villain to encourage a little family bonding. biggrin.gif

And regarding this... --Click here to view--
Did anyone notice that the text on this screenshot is coloured orange and pink?
A combination that seems to be popping up often, eh? tongue.gif


Guys... that is exactly the NS stuff we've been wanting. That pink and orange text up there is Kishimoto's subtle way of telling us NS fans there will be tons of NS. It's just Kishi's style to do that. Lastly, I think the reason why he's not showing more of Sakura is because he felt her scenes were too spoilerific.

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 08:40 AM

QUOTE (Codus N @ Jul 3 2012, 03:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Guys... that is exactly the NS stuff we've been wanting. That pink and orange text up there is Kishimoto's subtle way of telling us NS fans there will be tons of NS. It's just Kishi's style to do that. Lastly, I think the reason why he's not showing more of Sakura is because he felt her scenes were too spoilerific.

What's ironic is that they choose to use pink/orange letters when they show a scene of Hinata and Naruto. It's like a subtle way of saying Hinata won't get anywhere with Naruto in this movie because of Sakura.

I want to point out that is not only orange and pink, it's orange/yellow and pink/white. Those second colors (yellow and white) are also associated with them. Now that's being very color specific in my opinion.

This is why I believe that Sasuke and Hinata will serve as red herrings in this movie for the sake of Naruto and Sakura growing closer. Kishimoto is sending two messages when it comes to romance:

1) No matter what kind of attitude Hinata uses to approach Naruto it won't change the fact that he likes Sakura.
2) It doesn't matter if Sasuke becomes the ideal guy Sakura wanted before, it's not what she wants now since her feelings have matured.

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 08:51 AM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Jul 3 2012, 09:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What's ironic is that they choose to use pink/orange letters when they show a scene of Hinata and Naruto. It's like a subtle way of saying Hinata won't get anywhere with Naruto in this movie because of Sakura.

I want to point out that is not only orange and pink, it's orange/yellow and pink/white. Those second colors (yellow and white) are also associated with them. Now that's being very color specific in my opinion.

This is why I believe that Sasuke and Hinata will serve as red herrings in this movie for the sake of Naruto and Sakura growing closer. Kishimoto is sending two messages when it comes to romance:

1) No matter what kind of attitude Hinata uses to approach Naruto it won't change the fact that he likes Sakura.
2) It doesn't matter if Sasuke becomes the ideal guy Sakura wanted before, it's not what she wants now since her feelings have matured.


Mhm. I agree. The whole Orange/Yellow/White colors are waaaaaay too obvious to be a coincidence. Especially blatantly over the Hinata-strangling-Naruto scene.
 
 
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 09:06 AM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jul 3 2012, 12:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh God they only released the trailer and NH fans are at it using photoshop. rolleyes.gif I'm not surprised when the movie is release they will be doing the same thing with every scene that includes Hinata and Naruto. facepalm.png

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 09:31 AM

Can you explain why anyone else would waste the time Photoshopping an obvious frame from the trailer then?

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 09:39 AM

What about Sasukes parents and Itachi? Does anyone think they'll be alive/how they're personalities will differ from the real-world one's?
 
 
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Posted 03 July 2012 - 11:07 AM

QUOTE (ciardha @ Jul 3 2012, 01:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Even being a narusaku shipper and as much as I'd love to see romantic narusaku scenes, at this point I'd like to see Pierrot acknowledge Sakura's intelligence and skills in some scenes even more. Even if there are romantic narusaku scenes in the movie (and I'm expecting there will be a few.) I'll feel disappointed if Sakura doesn't have at least one scene where she is talking with Minato and they trying to figure out how to break the genjutsu. Minato and Sakura have somewhat similar thinking styles and it would be a great showcase for Sakura's character to have this kind of scene.

Given that Sakura seems to be the focus of the promo episode for the movie, I would imagine various aspects of her character will be explored beyond romance in both that episode and the movie.
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I also feel certain Sakura will have at least a couple of fighting scenes, but I want to see her other strengths on display in this movie. Pierrot has occasionally shown Sakura fighting in non canon material, but other than part 1's movie 3 I can't recall a filler that Pierrot did that showed Sakura's intelligence as part of her victory in battle, and in showing she perceived another person more deeply than she let on

There was that one fight of hers during the Sora arc, where Sakura tricked the enemy into thinking they had captured her in a genjutsu. She had prepared an antidote before hand, left a log disguised as her, and then came up from behind and took her out efficiently.
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Wonder why they've cut out the bleeding arm, anguished expression clip from all the trailers since the second one- the only one it was shown in... I thought it was quite an effective clip of Sakura from the movie, a far sight more interesting than what's shown up in other trailers- at least it shows her involvement in the main plot....

I feel the same way - that was a much more dramatic scene, with better pull for the movie in my opinion, and definitely a better presentation of Sakura's role in the movie (hopefully).
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