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[Chappy-chan!?]

1. MarySues - They really annoy me. I like OCs nut nor Mary-Sues.

2. People being brought back from the dead

3. Haku being a female

AND MOST OF ALLL...

NaruSaku+someone else! I'm aware that people on this board like NaruHarem but I personally hate it.

[Radon]

The only NaruSaku+ I will read is NaruSakuIno and thats because a great story called "A New Team" is NSI, and does it rather well.

[JABR]

in addition to what has been mentioned, the things I dislike and will stop reading a fic for.

-Taking one minor detail and buiding up around that one detail, in some cases it means completely altering a character based off of that one detail. Anko for example, her outfits and attitude somehow turn her into the village nympho. Now that played for laughs like in "Mating Season" or From Rame with Love is okay, it showing up elsewhere is disturbing and distracting.

-"Naruto is actually really intelligent and he gets smarter as he gets older'.

No, no he's not. He's clever, very clever actually. And he's quite good at thinking and adapting on the fly. But in terms of pure brainpower or intelligence, not gonna happen. Now as he ages, he'll get wiser which will be of huge help if and when he becomes Hokage but that doesn't equal being smarter. His character type is like that of Son Goku.

-"Naruto is an utter badass in combat".

Eh, no again. His primary advantages in any fight are his healing factor and his limitless chakra reserve because of Kyuubi. He basically can outlast and endure pretty much whatever he's hit with until he's in position to use a very basic move as a finisher when his opponent is at their weakest. It's really, really hard to beat someone who keeps getting up after you hit them with everything you have. Now it's not impossible as both Sasuke and Kabuto demonstrate but it is difficult at best.

-"Uzumaki Clan, Haruno Clan, Kazama Clan". These three clans most likely do not exist. The first because I highly doubt anyone is that dense not to connect Naruto to that clan given his name. The latter doesn't seem to exist because most of what is known about the Fourth implies that he is a first generation Ninja much like Sakura did. The primary difference being the Fourth had many more natural advantages then Sakura does and a better teacher.

-"(insert Nartuo Character here) looks like (Insert random character design from an Anime/Video Game), ie, Naruto looks like Cloud from Advent Children."

-No, no he doesn't. Go back and come up with an original character design or at least one that looks or sounds like it belongs in the Naruto-verse.

-Losing the flaws. This is similiar to Naruto being really smart and what not. Basically it entails removing a character's flaws, habits and tendencies that identify them as that character. Like taking Tsunade and having her sound like she's someone she isn't. This includes magnifying her flaws (paperwork, temper, drunk) AND making her sound like a real person, which she isn't. She's larger then life as the legendary kuinochi, she's supposed to be flawed and outrageous.

-FixerFics, "I'm going back to fix everything bad that ever happened to me". Why? That's what made Naruto what he is today. Just let it alone...

Character bashing, particularly Sasuke. Sasuke's a guy whose head is REALLY screwed up but he's stil at heart someone Naruto views as his brother. You don't need to embellish with a fantasy when the truth is painful enough.

-Kyuubi pays rent. As others have said, Kyuubi is an ancient demon of untold age and power, it doesn't really care about Naruto or his friends and it would gladly kill them all in brutal fashion if it could.

-OCAwesomeness. When your OC's are dominating the story and making the rest of the cast look either weak or ordinary, its time to stop, delete what you wrote and start over again.

-Pleas for votes or reviews.
If you need the attention that badly, I suggest you stop writing. Go outside and make a friend in the real world.

[Blue Jeans]

in addition to what has been mentioned, the things I dislike and will stop reading a fic for.

-Taking one minor detail and buiding up around that one detail, in some cases it means completely altering a character based off of that one detail. Anko for example, her outfits and attitude somehow turn her into the village nympho. Now that played for laughs like in "Mating Season" or From Rame with Love is okay, it showing up elsewhere is disturbing and distracting.

-"Naruto is actually really intelligent and he gets smarter as he gets older'.

No, no he's not. He's clever, very clever actually. And he's quite good at thinking and adapting on the fly. But in terms of pure brainpower or intelligence, not gonna happen. Now as he ages, he'll get wiser which will be of huge help if and when he becomes Hokage but that doesn't equal being smarter. His character type is like that of Son Goku.

-"Naruto is an utter badass in combat".

Eh, no again. His primary advantages in any fight are his healing factor and his limitless chakra reserve because of Kyuubi. He basically can outlast and endure pretty much whatever he's hit with until he's in position to use a very basic move as a finisher when his opponent is at their weakest. It's really, really hard to beat someone who keeps getting up after you hit them with everything you have. Now it's not impossible as both Sasuke and Kabuto demonstrate but it is difficult at best.

-"Uzumaki Clan, Haruno Clan, Kazama Clan". These three clans most likely do not exist. The first because I highly doubt anyone is that dense not to connect Naruto to that clan given his name. The latter doesn't seem to exist because most of what is known about the Fourth implies that he is a first generation Ninja much like Sakura did. The primary difference being the Fourth had many more natural advantages then Sakura does and a better teacher.

-"(insert Nartuo Character here) looks like (Insert random character design from an Anime/Video Game), ie, Naruto looks like Cloud from Advent Children."

-No, no he doesn't. Go back and come up with an original character design or at least one that looks or sounds like it belongs in the Naruto-verse.

-Losing the flaws. This is similiar to Naruto being really smart and what not. Basically it entails removing a character's flaws, habits and tendencies that identify them as that character. Like taking Tsunade and having her sound like she's someone she isn't. This includes magnifying her flaws (paperwork, temper, drunk) AND making her sound like a real person, which she isn't. She's larger then life as the legendary kuinochi, she's supposed to be flawed and outrageous.

-FixerFics, "I'm going back to fix everything bad that ever happened to me". Why? That's what made Naruto what he is today. Just let it alone...

Character bashing, particularly Sasuke. Sasuke's a guy whose head is REALLY screwed up but he's stil at heart someone Naruto views as his brother. You don't need to embellish with a fantasy when the truth is painful enough.

-Kyuubi pays rent. As others have said, Kyuubi is an ancient demon of untold age and power, it doesn't really care about Naruto or his friends and it would gladly kill them all in brutal fashion if it could.

-OCAwesomeness. When your OC's are dominating the story and making the rest of the cast look either weak or ordinary, its time to stop, delete what you wrote and start over again.

-Pleas for votes or reviews.
If you need the attention that badly, I suggest you stop writing. Go outside and make a friend in the real world.

Yeah, when an author holds their fanfic for ransom reviews... that's just the lowest of lows. The moment I see: "I want so-and-so reviews before updating" I'm like... okay, bad writing, bad attitude, not going to bother to read.

LOL @ OCAwesomeness!

God... these points... so true!

[MagusKyros]

Are you forgetting Queen Kasuga? She was reputed to have issues with a kitsune.

So did Amaterasu, IIRC, though that might have been a different kind of shapeshifting critter (funny how kitsune, tengu, kappa, and tanuki -- the four major 'species' of Japanese mythological stories (i.e., the equivalent of the Western faeries, elves, ogres, trolls, etc., and as opposed to the Japanese mythological critters there were only supposedly one of, like the Orochi) are all shapeshifters of one type or another. Kitsune were the only ones who 'frequently' changed sex at will, however -- most of the others stayed as they were born).

Oh, and the one intended 'tengu' reference in Training for the Job was that both the Uchiha and the Hyuuga 'used' tengu to amplify their clan's powers. Again, no tengu are ever encountered, but I have thought a great deal about using what I learned about them somehow.

Never heard of Queen Kasuga, but my knowledge is limited to the general stuff about Japanese mythology.

Well, I can see where the mythological ideas are coming from, but nowhere in the manga is the Kyuubi shown to exhibit any form of seduction through sex. It is 1) depicted with more male attributes than female; and 2) seduce using power than using sexual attraction. So, until Kishimoto show me another side of Kyuubi, it just feels very OOC to me. There's basis in the society that this story is coming from but no basis in the actual canon.

IMO.

It's fanfiction, you can make your character appear however as you want. Kyuubi hasn't shown any form of seduction through sex, yes, but can s/he?

I also don't see how Kyuubi is attributed to be more male than female. The manga has no voices, and basing it off the anime just doesn't work. Also, Kyuubi's databook profile calls it and "it" as well.

[JABR]

Well the Google search for "kitsune" turns up the Wiki page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitsune

And the Kitsune page:

http://www.coyotes.org/kitsune/

And this page here which seems to be really heavy on the subject:

http://www.comnet.ca...ne/kitsune1.htm

[ciardha]

I don't think there were any prominent female figures in Japan.

Before the 1300's there were many prominent female figures. It was the influence of Neo Confucianism from China that turned Japanese culture repressive, but not to the extent as in China. Not as bad in many ways, as the West in the Middle Ages-Victorian period either.

The first known ruler of Japan was a woman, as related in Chinese documents about the "country of Wei" (as they then called Japan) Empress Himiko who ruled in the 200's AD, she was suceeded by her granddaughter or niece (the recorder wasn't sure of the relationship) Iya

The legendary Empress Jingu (who appears to have actually existed from recently discovered Korean historical records of the time period, who was according to those records neither a conquerer (traditional Japanese tale) or an invader that was repelled (traditional Korean tale) but instead, an ally to one of the three Korean countries of the time, she lead her people there to help protect their allied country in Korea. According to the Korean records this happened around the 300's.

Empress Suiko ruled 593-628, Empress Kyougyoku Saimei (two reigns) 642-5 and 655-61, Empress Jito 687-97, Empress Genmei 707-715, Empress Gensho 715-724, Empress consort Koumyou (who was basically a co-ruler with her husband Emperor Shoumu) 724-49 (she created the world's first women's shelters, where women fleeing from abusive husbands could stay safely in Buddhist women's temples and after three years would be granted a divorce from their husbands, even if the man didn't want to divorce her) , Empress Koken Shoutoku (two reigns) 749-58 and 764-770, Masako Hojo (the only female shogun 1199-1225, and governor of Kyoto during her husband Yoritomo's shogunate, 1185-1199) that line of shoguns were named for her family- Hojo, rather than his- Minamoto.

There were also a number of prominant female warriors of the samurai class, the best known and greatest was Tomoe Gozen, not just the greatest female warrior in Japanese history, but considered one of the seven greatest Japanese warriors, period. A later period great woman warrior was Oichi Nobunaga, who lived in the 1500's.

Then there are the women of the arts, who are too many to list here. Unlike in Medival Europe, Japanese women were educated and were major contributors to Japanese art and literature. Only the stage was closed to Japanese women (although Okuni created what was to become Kabuki in the later 1500's. It was after her death around 1615 this performing art was taken away from women by the extremely repressive second Tokugawa shogun.)

Then there were the Japanese feminists of the 1880's-1930's- Hiratuska Raicho, Ito Noe, Shizue Kato and many others, including Yoko Ono's maternal grandmother Teruko Yasuda. Then the younger ones of that wave of Japanese feminism became strong female figures during the American occupation of Japan until the mid 1950's backlash (part of the worldwide backlash against women in the 1950's), the survivors of that backlash helped younger Japanese women form their second wave of feminism in the late 60's-early 70's, just as Yoko Ono became an inspiration to Japanese third wave feminists in the mid 1980's to present. Out of those waves of feminism came these female politicians: Yayoi Yoshioka 1871-1959, Fusae Ichikawa 1893-1981, Shizue Kato 1897-2001, Takako Doi 1928- , Kiyomi Tsujimoto 1960- and others.

[desaix]

Never heard of Queen Kasuga, but my knowledge is limited to the general stuff about Japanese mythology.

Queen Kasuga (in some translations, Kasuga no Yamada) is a 'Yamato Dynasty' era queen. The only written reference I have to her is from the Kojiki, and says that she was the first wife of 'His Augustness Ohoke' (a Yamato 'dynasty' Emperor with a small harem of wives, although -- as I said, 'Queen Kasuga' is the first one and arguably most important) and that she was "the august daughter of the Heavenly Sovereign Oho-hatsuse-no-waka-take, and begot august children: Takaki-no-iratsume; next Takara-no-iratsume; next Kasubi-no-iratsume; next Tashiraka-no-iratsume; next His Grandeur Wo-hatsuse-no-waka-sazaki; next Prince Ma-waka." I can't provide a link, because I'm using a paper source, but I'm sure there is a translation of the kojiki somewhere online.

However, she often appears in a lot of Japanese fairy tales and folklore, and in fact it was the legends surrounding her upon which the powers of the Kasuga family from 'Kimagure Orange Road' were founded.

One 'rumor' in those legends that, after her husband died, she ruled in his stead for some years. Some of those other legends say that she was the daughter of a kitsune, and that gave her mystical powers. Others say (related to the 'rumor' that her husband died, above) that she was tricked into believing a kitsune was her husband, and so at least one of her children was born with kitsune blood in him (not sure which one was mentioned in the legend, as I no longer have access to the book I found the original story in and I last read it about six years ago, so some of my facts may be a little off). I thought it appropriate to bring her up, pertinent to this discussion.

Edit: Eek! Forgot to turn the page and so I mixed up the Kasuga's (that's what I get for looking up 'Queen Kasuga' and not 'Kasuga no Yamada,' which I knew ahead of time was the correct name. Ergh). There was a Kasuga-no-Oho who was the Emperor's wife, and a Kasuga-no-Yamada who was the same Emperor's daughter (by a different wife). It was Kasuga-no-Yamada about whom all of the legends are from, however. She was apparently married off in a political marriage to a rival king, which is why she as 'Queen' instead of 'Emperess' (I knew there was something odd about that title. As a note, there are NO Kings in Japan after the Yamato dynasty, apparently because the 'Kings' were all regarded as evil figures in the Yamato dynasty. This political marriage is referred to in a rather oblique reference to a king of 'Wani' who I had never heard of. Queen Kasuga is not exactly a 'nice' girl in Japanese literature) Again, all of the above about the rumors and legends are correct, it was just with her husband the King and not the other Kasuga's husband (and her father) the Emperor that they occured. And both King and Emperor had harems, although some of those rumors do have to do with Queen Kasuga killing her rival wives (poison and the like).

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Koken Shoutoku (two reigns) 749-58 and 764-770, Masako Hojo (the only female shogun 1199-1225, and governor of Kyoto during her husband Yoritomo's shogunate, 1185-1199) that line of shoguns were named for her family- Hojo, rather than his- Minamoto.

The Hojo clan are known to have attempted a large number of 'reforms,' following her take-over. It was entirely the Hojo clan which started the attempts at forming a shogunal insei system, for example.

I had forgotten that the clan was founded by a woman, but it makes me wonder if, perhaps, that contributed to the reasons the Japanese had for not just usurping their power, but later making it a mission to literally exterminate the entire clan. Following their loss of the shogunate, the entire Hojo clan was wiped out to the last man, woman, and child. Centuries later, another shogun -- which had no blood ties to the 'old' clans (such as the Minamoto) -- decided, for some inexplicable reason, to choose the Hojo to be his 'new' clan's name, in order to tie it into the past. The 'Go-Hojo' clan was also regarded very negatively after it was overturned, and I really wonder if there was a connection.

[Blue Jeans]

Never heard of Queen Kasuga, but my knowledge is limited to the general stuff about Japanese mythology.
It's fanfiction, you can make your character appear however as you want. Kyuubi hasn't shown any form of seduction through sex, yes, but can s/he?

I also don't see how Kyuubi is attributed to be more male than female. The manga has no voices, and basing it off the anime just doesn't work. Also, Kyuubi's databook profile calls it and "it" as well.

Well, I know what you mean, but most people don't give any build-up to how they characterize Kyuubi. So far, in the 14-15 years that the Kyuubi has lived inside Naruto, at no point has 'it' ever shown any method of sexual seduction. Considering the fact that Naruto is VERY straight and perverted (and have reached the age of a horny teenage boy, as well), you would think that at some point in time, by now, at least, he would have confronted something like this. Considering the few interactions shown in the manga where the two speak, it is ALWAYS about power. Kyuubi had not shown its need to transform into anything other than its big, tailed self. Of course, a fanfiction author can do whatever they want with it, but unless they make a believable build-up that address the reason why after ALL this time Kyuubi have never deigned to transform or shape shift (at all), or even try to seduce Naruto inside his mind (with anything other than power) to weaken his resolve against it and have only tried to overpower Naruto or tempt Naruto with its chakra powers, if the fic doesn't try to explain its way around this, the Kyuubi would seem OOC to me. Just like if Hinata, who has been the shy, stuttering girl suddenly becoming confident without any explaination because somewhere in history someone shared her name and she's supposedly based on this character, it doesn't excuse it.

That's my opinion, I'm not saying authors can't do it, I'm just saying that treating Kyuubi like a mythical beast and disregarding its role in the manga and the personality that it has been attributed with isn't good story telling fandom wise. It may be good story telling based on the fairytale/myths, but it isn't taking the characteristics that is shown so far in the manga. I know Kyuubi is still much a mystery, but from what has been shown, it is an angry beast with a power-complex and a disregard for humans and human life.

Seduction in a sexual way, at this point in time, seem to be the last thing on the Kyuubi's mind.

And fanfiction is all about stretching your imagination and bringing new information in. But a good fanfiction is where you take the context of the manga/anime/story you're working in and fitting the new stuff and an author's own stuff in without it sticking out like a sore thumb and without altering characters that have already been established in a certain way. And once again, this is how I've interpreted the Kyuubi. You can feel free to point out where it's been acting like it's seductive and flirty to Naruto (or going in that direction, even) in the manga and I'll concede I'm wrong.

[Enermil]

Mary Sues plain and simple. I hate them and most times they´re written without the author knowing it or deniying that he had wrote a Mary Sue character.

In nAruto fanfiction Mary Sues are unknown nins from Konoha who had a status similar to the sanin. Or the y are nins from one of the others countries. They´re the perfection and the examplo of what a ninja should be; calm, collected, always thinking ahead of the situation, moral compass, they know impressive and powerfull ninjutsu, taijutsu and genjutsu. They have amazing speed (Gai is slow if you compare them), a great intelligence an cunning that can beat Shikamaru´s, and great power, the likes of Naruto´s himself. They´re so ******* powerfull that they can take on an Akatsuki member without sweating.

But what I hate about them is how they NEVER let emotions get the better of them and how they never displays them in battle. They follow this rule when in the manga even Shinobi such a Sandaime, Jiraiya, Tsunade and Kakashi have show displays of emotions in the battlefields because they´re still human (I´ll never forget Kakashi Gaiden, Obito´s implanted eye on Kakashi crying is one of the most emotive moment of the series). And they don´t show this human trait.

The worst is when the author uses them to correct the canon characters flaws and in particular their display of emotions. The author doesn´t seem to understand that human have flaws and emotions and that is what makes us humans and fictional characters believable and great characters. Of course their OC don´t have any kind of flaw in their personality unless they´re an anger driven character by a tragic past (Mary Sue trait).

That kind of OC or even worse a canon character transformed into that is the worst thing I can come around in fanfiction. The sad thing is when they introduce that character in a story that tries to be the closest posible to the series. No, no, no. That Mary Sues character can function in comedic AU if they´re used to spring the comedy, but in a serious fanfic they´re out of place. Plain and simple.

Recently I have come around some fics with said characters and they left a sour taste in me. I´m not healed yet from the bad taste.

[MagusKyros]

Well, I know what you mean, but most people don't give any build-up to how they characterize Kyuubi. So far, in the 14-15 years that the Kyuubi has lived inside Naruto, at no point has 'it' ever shown any method of sexual seduction. Considering the fact that Naruto is VERY straight and perverted (and have reached the age of a horny teenage boy, as well), you would think that at some point in time, by now, at least, he would have confronted something like this. Considering the few interactions shown in the manga where the two speak, it is ALWAYS about power. Kyuubi had not shown its need to transform into anything other than its big, tailed self. Of course, a fanfiction author can do whatever they want with it, but unless they make a believable build-up that address the reason why after ALL this time Kyuubi have never deigned to transform or shape shift (at all), or even try to seduce Naruto inside his mind (with anything other than power) to weaken his resolve against it and have only tried to overpower Naruto or tempt Naruto with its chakra powers, if the fic doesn't try to explain its way around this, the Kyuubi would seem OOC to me. Just like if Hinata, who has been the shy, stuttering girl suddenly becoming confident without any explaination because somewhere in history someone shared her name and she's supposedly based on this character, it doesn't excuse it.

That's my opinion, I'm not saying authors can't do it, I'm just saying that treating Kyuubi like a mythical beast and disregarding its role in the manga and the personality that it has been attributed with isn't good story telling fandom wise. It may be good story telling based on the fairytale/myths, but it isn't taking the characteristics that is shown so far in the manga. I know Kyuubi is still much a mystery, but from what has been shown, it is an angry beast with a power-complex and a disregard for humans and human life.

Seduction in a sexual way, at this point in time, seem to be the last thing on the Kyuubi's mind.

And fanfiction is all about stretching your imagination and bringing new information in. But a good fanfiction is where you take the context of the manga/anime/story you're working in and fitting the new stuff and an author's own stuff in without it sticking out like a sore thumb and without altering characters that have already been established in a certain way. And once again, this is how I've interpreted the Kyuubi. You can feel free to point out where it's been acting like it's seductive and flirty to Naruto (or going in that direction, even) in the manga and I'll concede I'm wrong.

I'll agree with you on this. I don't like it when things don't make sense. Which is why there are only a few fanfics (literally) out there that I appreciate.

None of which are NaruFemKyuubi of course. However, I have thought of a way to do a NaruFemKyuubi fic, and it would also be believable as well. None of the cliche crap we've seen to :].

But alas, I lack the skill in writing.

[JABR]

A fic like 'Sounds of a new Destiny' has somewhat of a different problem regarding OC's.

Not that they're not emotive or flawed. It's just their too powerful and colorful compared to the actual Naruto characters. Being able to be smoother then Kakashi and what not.

Now I like that story and I've read what there is of it several times but it's things like that put it on the list of fics I read when I'm bored, with other stories like Traing for the job and what not. Not on my must read list.

[Nate River]

-Losing the flaws. This is similiar to Naruto being really smart and what not. Basically it entails removing a character's flaws, habits and tendencies that identify them as that character. Like taking Tsunade and having her sound like she's someone she isn't. This includes magnifying her flaws (paperwork, temper, drunk) AND making her sound like a real person, which she isn't. She's larger then life as the legendary kuinochi, she's supposed to be flawed and outrageous.

-FixerFics, "I'm going back to fix everything bad that ever happened to me". Why? That's what made Naruto what he is today. Just let it alone...

I agree with the first. It's the reason I don't like superpowerful or supersmart Naruto and why I tend not to read dark Naruto either. He just isn't Naruto with those traits. It removes some of the things I like most about his character. I'll sometimes read Dark Naruto, it it's really original or interesting and not just another fic where the author gets revenge on his behalf.

The second, I presume, is the time travel ones. It was an original and interesting idea when Red Crow did it. Then it got popular and overused. Most of the time, it's as you say, the author going back and writing what they wished had happened to Naruto or acting as they think they would have if they were in his position. Generally, it means being paired with the author's character of choice combined with copious amounts of character bashing on the hated characters (Sasuke in particular).

However, Surarrin is writing a rather interesting variation. where Naruto gets sent back after obtaining everything he ever wanted. Thinking it a dream he screws around and starts messing things up. He hasn't got past Chapter 1 yet, but it's an interesting idea. I didn't like Naruto kept his abilities as he comes across as too powerful in that fic.

But I find the idea of Naruto going back after gaining everything he wants really interesting. Knowing what would happen, what should he do? Try and relive the events the exact same way so he gets what he wants, which means has to relive every painful memory all over again. And could he even do that effectively as even seemingly small events could potentially have a big impact and doing so precisely would require a photographic memory. This combined with the natural impulse to "correct" his life and no relive his worst moments, which could end make him even worse off than he was in the previous life. I could have so much fun with that idea. I'm jealous, wish I'd thought of it first.

[JABR]

well there are two kinds of time travel fics I'm thinking of.

The first is Naruto makes a kyuubi variety and he goes back and is incredibly powerful, smart etc...

The second one I don't like is because sooner or later, so many things are changed, you're not really sure of what you're reading is Naruto anymore. I can see changing a minor thing or a major event and only that but afterwards, it just gets incredibly complicated and hard to keep up. And this isnt' just in Naruto FF, I've seen it happen in every fandom where a timetravel plot device is employed.

I would like to see some fics were minor events of underrated importance are dealt with.

Say instead of Naruto and Sasuke fighting on top of the Hospital, they fight at the Training grounds where some of the other rookies and their sensei's can see it. What would their reactions be to witnessing that aborted fight, etc....

[Nate River]

I've generally not liked the first type because it's mostly just another version of superpowerful Naruto with most of the common cliche's and flaws that go into with Naruto impressing the girl the author likes and bashing the people he or she doesn't. Basically, having Naruto be as they wished he were or reacting as they think they would have. I generally don't like super-powered Naruto simply because it removes the underdog role that's been a key part of who he is, but it worst when it's used a hammer to beat over the head of characters the authors hates.

Anyway, I think Surarrin's variation is great. It would seem to run into the problem you mentioned, but that's really going to be dependent on how you have Naruto approach the situation and which events he keeps, so to speak, and which he messes up.

It could be minor or major events. Sasuke departure has caused him tons of grief and he's dedicated at least 4 years of his life to it. To get where he was before, would mean having to have the patience and desire to live through that again. So he can do that, or trying to take the short-cut and prevent him from leaving at all, knowing full well what Sasuke intends to do. However, Sasuke would probably resent him immensely for it and would still be available for Sakura to pine over with having the actual stigma of abandoning his village for three years. Sure there would be the attempt, but it's not the same. As a result, he may lose them both by trying to take the shorter route and is worse of for it. Or maybe he gets Sakura while permanently losing Sasuke who knows.

Or the Chuunin exams. He knows the invasion is coming. He knows the cursed seal is coming and that Itachi will soon follow. All important events to getting to the point he's at. Does he let the village, 3rd, and Sasuke suffer for "the better end (say the village is experiencing unprecedented prosperity because of his reign as 6th)" so to speak, or just he do everything he can to prevent them with the outcome unknown and him trying to fix it later.

Those are just a couple of the many possibilities. Reliving his life is a lot more delicate than be probably thinks because even things he might have thought to be minor could have had a bigger impact than he thought.

In other words, rather than doing everything to fix things, he does it to preserve his own happiness that he lost by being sent back and potentially screws things up for the worse by not appreciating many of the events he went through, not matter much they may have sucked at the time.

In this case, the powerful/smart part will always be an issue because you'll have an adult in a child's body. He can't exactly unlearn jutsu. His body might not be able to keep up, but it's hard to mess with the knowledge part without him being thrown back at an early stage in the manga, at which point his impulse will be more like to fix things than preserve them.

[Jun-sama]

What I don't Like? This list is portrayed from least disliked to most disliked.

DISCLAIMER: This is my own personal opinion. Though I might express great dislike for some genres, by all means carry on making your bad fan fiction and art should you choose to do so. No one is discriminating against you.

733t speak. obvious symptom of intelligence deficiency.

Rape: I think people who write these should go see a shrink...

Yaoi! It's scary, trust me, I do know a few homosexuals in temasek...

Yaoi Lemons, even worse. After the first, I had to rub my eyes with listerine.

Yaoi Rape: see above.

Yaoi Gangbangs...oh god no.....

Furries...What in the name of truth were these people thinking when they made these???? Why would anyone do that to a story??

Personally, with the abundance of furry in fanart and more recently, fanfics, I propose a mass genocide of such....urghh...words fail me...

SUFFER NOT THE FURRY TO LIVE!!!!!~です！！！！！！！

[Strausenhat]

I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE USE ALL CAPS.

It really doesn't look good when you see normal text and then a word in all caps.

They have the exclamation point for a reason, so you don't have to use caps to express that someone is shouting or is saying something with passion!

I especially hate caps locking when it's just narrative and not dialogue, which makes it look even more bizarre.

I also hate it when people use the return key too much or too little.

Walls of text crit me for 8000 and I die, and double spacing every sentence, is something not even smart kids trying to stretch their 5 page essay into a 10 page one do, though it isn't a half bad idea now that I think about it.

That, and breaking the fourth wall mid-fic, (in the narrative, not in some Author's Note thingamabob) really takes me out of the story.

4th wall humor is fine every once in awhile, but stuff like the narrator asking the reader questions is really distracting for me.

But mostly it's just caps clocking

edited to be easier to read. If you missed it, just imagine the entire thing in caps and you can see how crazy it was.

[Nate River]

I understand you're making a point when doing that, but even so, please do not type like that.

[Cloud]

Pokemon crossover fics.

I will maul the next person that writes one. Hell, I feel like mauling the idiots on FF.net who write one of these.