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[Ani]

She did know he was in pain, but she didn't do anything about it. Except admire from the background.

[Random Nobody]

Good find Nobody. Maybe that can help some people see that they can like their pairings but still realize that the manga is moving towards something else. I think we should all try and do that. That person, though a SasuSaku supporter shows that s/he recognizes what is happening in the manga and takes that for fact rather than just going on his/her opinions. Yet s/he still remains faithful to SasuSaku. Those kind of people I can respect and sit down and talk to cuz they are willing to listen.

Yea it is more fun talking to people who can see whats happening in the manga and still like their pairings than it is talking to people who go "OMG if my pairing doesn't happen I'm gonna quit reading the manga/threaten Kishimoto/or it'll be the biggest disappointment of their lives. :rolleyes:

What get's me is their claim that Hinata will be the one to cheer up Naruto and save him from Kyuubi and what not... I mean how the heck could that work anyways since Hinata knows nothing of Naruto's pain.

That's like some fairy tale crap they're spouting or something.

How can Hinata help Naruto with Kyuubi if she doesn't even know he has it? What makes them think Hinata wouldn't freak if she saw Kyuubi Naruto, like most people would. I mean the only thing that prevented Sakura from freaking was the fact that she trusts Naruto and already knew about it. Plus she had seen Naruto use it before in the Forest of Death and the Neji fight so she would be more prepared for it. Besides if Kyuubi Naruto can hurt Sakura theres no way Hinata would be able to do anything about it.

She did know he was in pain, but she didn't do anything about it. Except admire from the background.

That was only true in part one though, now Naruto has brand new pains like being a demon carrier and losing a teamate that Hinata knows nothing about.

[Ani]

Yeah, I know. She only knows a bit of his pain. Sakura knows more about his pain giving her the bigger chance to help and support Naruto.

[Danni]

yea hanata saw that naruto was in pain but, she did nothing about it. I still like hanata but i see her more likly end up w/ kiba, or neji but not naruto.But hey we dont really know only kishi know's. and Interesting post NR, it see look at every carefull.

[Random Nobody]

So wait the SasuSaku fans are trying to claim that Sasuke and Sakura are like Yin and Yang? Why can't they just stick to using evidence from the Manga/Anime like the rest of us do?

[gamerman_007]

FRom the the anti narusaku club i bring to you all:

I'm not very good at these essays/LAPs... but I'll try!

HOW/WHY I LIKE NARUHINA

Alright, I'll admit, at first I didn't care about NaruHina. Heck, I didn't care about Hinata at all. Sakura was my favorite girl, and SasuSaku was my favorite couple. But this was only in the beginning when I first watched the Zabuza/Haku arc. I even liked NaruSaku back then. But let's not go there, that didn't last long at all.

I did know about Hinata, but Sakura was basically the only female that got a good deal of development. After watching/reading the Chuunin test #1, (written part) I saw Naruto sitting next to Hinata. I wondered "Why? She's not really important..." Well I was wrong. I thought it was stupid to have a dull looking girl, love the main character. It was like the little shy girl with a crush on the hero. I was wrong to say Hinata isn't important, nor weak. She DOES have a theme. A way to fulfill her theme is if she ended up with Naruto. (Though I'm not saying that's the only way) When I watched Hinata fight, I thought she was definitely one of the stronger female genin. Sakura was useless as hell, and Ino wasn't far off. I always did have a feeling that Hinata had more to her then what met the eye. She was strong because of her Hyuuga blood, which surprised me because she was so secondary. Weren't the main girls suppose to be stronger? The typical way? In Naruto, I guess not.

Anyway, even after I watched the Chuunin exams(ALL OF IT), I didn't care about NaruHina. I was still hardcore SasuSaku, especially after episode 109. (Which totally killed my liking of NaruSaku btw) As you know, many anime fans read fanfics. I would read SasuSaku fanfics and that's it. However, 99.9% of the time.... every SasuSaku fic I read ALWAYS had NaruHina in it. I didn't mind it, since it was SasuSaku... but I still didn't care. Sooner or later, I realized it didn't look like Sasuke was coming back for Sakura anytime soon, so I started looking into other pairings. NaruSaku wasn't popular, so I couldn't find much on them (and I started hating that pairing anyway) So I decided to actually look into NaruHina. Like I said, every fanfic that had SasuSaku, usually had NaruHina. It made sense that most SasuSaku and NaruHina fans would stick together.

Looking into NaruHina more, I noticed it was extremely popular here. Beyond popular. I didn't understand why, since Hinata doesn't appear that much in the manga. But now I do. And usually it wasn't just because it was 'cute' or people liked SasuSaku and just wanted to get Naruto out of the way. They could easily just like SasuSaku and not care about any other pairing. (like me) I feel it was because that we saw that Hinata was truly meant for him. I actually watched the fillers, and noticed that they were and still are on the NaruHina route. That made me question myself even more. I know fillers don't really 'count' but they gave Hinata more development, as well as NaruHina. I remember watching the bikochuu arc and seeing Hinata dance in the waterfall, Naruto watching. I remember seeing the nin asking Naruto if Hinata was his girlfriend (while holding up the pinky), Naruto not denying. I remember Naruto saying Hinata would make a good wife someday. All the NaruHina fluff in 175-176. Etc Etc... These are just some of the reasons how I fell in love with the pairing. The fillers helped me, but they weren't the source. I had to look back into the manga to truly get the meaning.

Despite what others may say, Hinata WAS the first person to ever see Naruto for himself. (Unless you count Iruka, but I'm not sure if he was first) I did think it was kinda weird that she would follow him. But I knew it wasn't stalking. She was simply watching him because she admired his strength and determination. She wanted to try her best as well. He was her inspiration. Rewatching/reading when Kiba versed Naruto, I loved her thoughts about him, and how he had an impact on her heart. I loved when Naruto stood up for her, and hardly even knew her. (as Neji said) He defended her honor, claiming he would win. Reading more fanfics, looking at fanart, and reading what supports had to say about NaruHina, the more I loved the pairing. It was clear to me that NaruHina had replaced SasuSaku for me, and looking at these forums, and google results, it's even starting to surpass SasuSaku in general. I have hope for NaruHina, and still believe it's a possible pairing. Not to mention all my Naruto buds liked NaruHina... So that motivated me as well.

Example:

Me: Man, it's scary how obsessed Sakura is with Sasuke
My friend: Yeah I know XD
Me: *sigh* Why can't she JUST like Naruto?
My friend: ...NO WAY! NarutoxHinata!
Me: *thinks* Ah... yeah... true...

Of course I agree that ying and yang (opposites attract) is perfect for NaruHina. I was always a fan of that. Naruto is loud, Hinata is shy. They balance each other out. To me, Hinata looked like she could be the only one who could calm him totally down. Her kind nature is to thank for that. When he was doubting himself against Neji, she had the courage to speak to him, calling him a "proud failure" and telling him he was strong. She knew what it was like since she was constantly put down by her father and the clan. I feel these two could work out and that Naruto may end up loving her in the end. He stated "Now I know why I like Sakura so much" <--- It was because Sakura wanted acknowledgement. Just like him. They were the same that way. Hinata wants that as well.

Post time skip, when they met again, Hinata still had those strong feelings for him. She claimed she wasn't ready to face him, but eventually, I know she will be put in a situation where it is "now or never". At least that's what I'm thinking. She fainted ONCE and that was when Naruto saw her for the first time. It might not even have been from her liking him... It could have been a shock because she hasn't seen him in 2.5 years. Which brings up another point. Why would Hinata still love him after not seeing him for 2.5 years? It's more than a crush to me.

Well... I know there's more to why I like them but I can't think anymore right now. I left out a bunch of stuff cause this is just how I started to like NaruHina and why... Not ways it's possible. I'll save how it's possible/hints/comparisons for another day. But yeah that's why I like them.

and

Sakura having no feelings for sasuke or sakura hating him now are one of the main arguments in the pairing debates. That amazes me, because i can understand people not seeing sasuke's feelings (even I don't say there are any romantic feelings on his part) but sakura is perfectly clear with her feelings for both sasuke and naruto. She loved sasuke and loves him even more now. She acknowledged naruto, and she admires him and see how good friend he is. That's how I see it...

and

ou are absolutely right, Kishimoto makes that each all character stay consitent like Hinata obssession with Naruto adn Nruto's obssesion with Sakura and Sakura's obssession with Sasuke. Sakura loves Sasuke evertyhing she does shows love, to be precised intimate love for Sasuke. As for Naruto she admires him, she treats him like a good friend. Although she was wrong at first for treating Naruto like annoyinjg obstacle in her path, but now that she got to know him , she treats him like a brother. She never daydreamt about Naruto kissing her shiny forehead, did she now? The manga and the anime make it clear who she wants as a lover., and thats Sauske. Since Sasuke 's departure, everything she has done up ntil now is to rescue Sasuke although protecting naruto come into play along the way but rescuing Sasuke is her main goal and Its not because Sasuke is her teammate but because she loves him . thats a fact and her feelings hastn changed, there is nothing in the manga that hints that.

and

Since Sasuke 's departure, everything she has done up ntil now is to rescue Sasuke although protecting naruto come into play along the way but rescuing Sasuke is her main goal and Its not because Sasuke is her teammate but because she loves him .

anybody wanna tackle?

[Random Nobody]

Well thats an....interesting post you found there gamerman. I suppose I'll try refuting it before anyone more experienced shows up and makes my post look pathetic.

I did know about Hinata, but Sakura was basically the only female that got a good deal of development. After watching/reading the Chuunin test #1, (written part) I saw Naruto sitting next to Hinata. I wondered "Why? She's not really important..." Well I was wrong. I thought it was stupid to have a dull looking girl, love the main character. It was like the little shy girl with a crush on the hero. I was wrong to say Hinata isn't important, nor weak. She DOES have a theme. A way to fulfill her theme is if she ended up with Naruto. (Though I'm not saying that's the only way) When I watched Hinata fight, I thought she was definitely one of the stronger female genin. Sakura was useless as hell, and Ino wasn't far off. I always did have a feeling that Hinata had more to her then what met the eye. She was strong because of her Hyuuga blood, which surprised me because she was so secondary. Weren't the main girls suppose to be stronger? The typical way? In Naruto, I guess not.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Hinata's theme about changing yourself by believing in yourself? How exactly is getting with Naruto gonna be a way for her to achieve that, especially since she can't stop acting her old shy, spineless self around him. As for the comments about her fighting abilities the only thing I can really say is, so what? It doesn't matter if she's a good fighter or not, it won't affect how relationship with Naruto at all and thats what were supposed to be talking about here. Besides Sakura would own her post-time skip *waves a "Yay for Sakura!" flag*

Anyway, even after I watched the Chuunin exams(ALL OF IT), I didn't care about NaruHina. I was still hardcore SasuSaku, especially after episode 109. (Which totally killed my liking of NaruSaku btw) As you know, many anime fans read fanfics. I would read SasuSaku fanfics and that's it. However, 99.9% of the time.... every SasuSaku fic I read ALWAYS had NaruHina in it. I didn't mind it, since it was SasuSaku... but I still didn't care. Sooner or later, I realized it didn't look like Sasuke was coming back for Sakura anytime soon, so I started looking into other pairings. NaruSaku wasn't popular, so I couldn't find much on them (and I started hating that pairing anyway) So I decided to actually look into NaruHina. Like I said, every fanfic that had SasuSaku, usually had NaruHina. It made sense that most SasuSaku and NaruHina fans would stick together.

Well I'd comment on the episode that killed their liking of NaruSaku, but I don't really watch the anime so I have no idea what happend in episode 109 anyway. Oh the realizing that Sasuke wasn't coming back for Sakura comments hilarious though. I mean what did it take for him to realize Sasuke wasn't coming back? So the goodbye scene didn't quite make them realize that he was seriously leaving and never coming back? Despite the fact that it went something like this....

Sakura: I love you with all my heart!

Sasuke: I have to leave Sakura! Orochimaru needs to give me more hickeys!

Sakura:

Looking into NaruHina more, I noticed it was extremely popular here. Beyond popular. I didn't understand why, since Hinata doesn't appear that much in the manga. But now I do. And usually it wasn't just because it was 'cute' or people liked SasuSaku and just wanted to get Naruto out of the way. They could easily just like SasuSaku and not care about any other pairing. (like me) I feel it was because that we saw that Hinata was truly meant for him. I actually watched the fillers, and noticed that they were and still are on the NaruHina route. That made me question myself even more. I know fillers don't really 'count' but they gave Hinata more development, as well as NaruHina. I remember watching the bikochuu arc and seeing Hinata dance in the waterfall, Naruto watching. I remember seeing the nin asking Naruto if Hinata was his girlfriend (while holding up the pinky), Naruto not denying. I remember Naruto saying Hinata would make a good wife someday. All the NaruHina fluff in 175-176. Etc Etc... These are just some of the reasons how I fell in love with the pairing. The fillers helped me, but they weren't the source. I had to look back into the manga to truly get the meaning.

There absolutely right! The fillers don't count Oh and as for the "filler guy commenting on NaruHina being boyfriend and Girlfriend, if we count fillers we've got three people saying that about Naruto and Sakura, Plus two canon dates

Despite what others may say, Hinata WAS the first person to ever see Naruto for himself. (Unless you count Iruka, but I'm not sure if he was first) I did think it was kinda weird that she would follow him. But I knew it wasn't stalking. She was simply watching him because she admired his strength and determination. She wanted to try her best as well. He was her inspiration. Rewatching/reading when Kiba versed Naruto, I loved her thoughts about him, and how he had an impact on her heart. I loved when Naruto stood up for her, and hardly even knew her. (as Neji said) He defended her honor, claiming he would win. Reading more fanfics, looking at fanart, and reading what supports had to say about NaruHina, the more I loved the pairing. It was clear to me that NaruHina had replaced SasuSaku for me, and looking at these forums, and google results, it's even starting to surpass SasuSaku in general. I have hope for NaruHina, and still believe it's a possible pairing. Not to mention all my Naruto buds liked NaruHina... So that motivated me as well.

WHAT! Did they just claim that Hinata beat Iruka to recognizing Naruto!? Thats complete bullsh** and if they actually read the manga they might know that. The Third and Iruka recognized Naruto first followed by Team 7, it doesn't matter if Hinata noticed Naruto first because SHE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT! Thats why the fact that she recognized him isn't as important to him as the fact that Sakura, Sasuke, Iruka, etc. recognized him (thus why in the Rescue Gaara arc when he was thinking about the people who recognized him Hinata was just a background character in the larger group). Oh and you have to love the "it's not stalking cause she admires him" yea I'm pretty sure most stalker admire something about the people their stalking. Oh and how does the Kiba vs. Naruto fight work for NaruHina? She couldn't cheer Naruto on because she was worried about hurting Kiba if she did, which if she loved Naruto then she would have just cheered for him anyway, like Sakura did. As for Naruto standing up for her against Neji, well I'm sure everyone else has already covered this at some point, he only stood up for her because Neji made his speech about loser always being losers. It had nothing to do with restoring Hintat's honor or anything else like that, it just had to do with Naruto trying to prove that losers can change. The rest of the post isn't even worth debating since there basicly saying they like NaruHina because its popular.

Example:

Me: Man, it's scary how obsessed Sakura is with Sasuke
My friend: Yeah I know XD
Me: *sigh* Why can't she JUST like Naruto?
My friend: ...NO WAY! NarutoxHinata!
Me: *thinks* Ah... yeah... true...

Okay so what does this prove? Besides that you cave into peer pressure.

Of course I agree that ying and yang (opposites attract) is perfect for NaruHina. I was always a fan of that. Naruto is loud, Hinata is shy. They balance each other out. To me, Hinata looked like she could be the only one who could calm him totally down. Her kind nature is to thank for that. When he was doubting himself against Neji, she had the courage to speak to him, calling him a "proud failure" and telling him he was strong. She knew what it was like since she was constantly put down by her father and the clan. I feel these two could work out and that Naruto may end up loving her in the end. He stated "Now I know why I like Sakura so much" <--- It was because Sakura wanted acknowledgement. Just like him. They were the same that way. Hinata wants that as well.

Okay first off, you spelled it wrong its Yin and Yang not Ying and Yang. Second read Aethos post Yin and Yang isn't about opposites attract, its about two opposites that also have similarities and are not absolute opposites living in harmony with each other and it works alot better for NaruSaku then it does for NaruHina. Also when has Hinata ever calmed Naruto down? Last time I checked the only person who calms Naruto down is Sakura and she does the right way, with violence, Naruto isn't going to calm down cause Hinata's nicely asking him to in a quiet tone of voice. As for the last part, all you've really argued is that Hinata and Sakura both want acknowledgement and that Naruto likes that trait in people, however he spends more time around and has grown closer to Sakura so the fact that Hinata wants acknowledgement isn't all that important to him, otherwise he would have started calling her Hinata-Chan and asking her out on dates to.

Post time skip, when they met again, Hinata still had those strong feelings for him. She claimed she wasn't ready to face him, but eventually, I know she will be put in a situation where it is "now or never". At least that's what I'm thinking. She fainted ONCE and that was when Naruto saw her for the first time. It might not even have been from her liking him... It could have been a shock because she hasn't seen him in 2.5 years. Which brings up another point. Why would Hinata still love him after not seeing him for 2.5 years? It's more than a crush to me.

So your saying that because Hinata wasn't ready to see Naruto yet she's in love with him? How does that work? She could have just not been ready to see him cause she admires him and didn't think she had improved enough to face him yet. Besides she never mentioned being with him in part one so saying her feelings haven't changed in part two doesn't prove anything besides the fact that Hinata still admires Naruto.

Sakura having no feelings for sasuke or sakura hating him now are one of the main arguments in the pairing debates. That amazes me, because i can understand people not seeing sasuke's feelings (even I don't say there are any romantic feelings on his part) but sakura is perfectly clear with her feelings for both sasuke and naruto. She loved sasuke and loves him even more now. She acknowledged naruto, and she admires him and see how good friend he is. That's how I see it...

I love how they claim Sakura still loves Sasuke but ignore that she's spent all of part two worrying about Sasuke and Naruto equally. So if she still loves Sasuke, she loves Naruto to and judging by their behaviour which one do you think she's most likely to end up with.

ou are absolutely right, Kishimoto makes that each all character stay consitent like Hinata obssession with Naruto adn Nruto's obssesion with Sakura and Sakura's obssession with Sasuke. Sakura loves Sasuke evertyhing she does shows love, to be precised intimate love for Sasuke. As for Naruto she admires him, she treats him like a good friend. Although she was wrong at first for treating Naruto like annoyinjg obstacle in her path, but now that she got to know him , she treats him like a brother. She never daydreamt about Naruto kissing her shiny forehead, did she now? The manga and the anime make it clear who she wants as a lover., and thats Sauske. Since Sasuke 's departure, everything she has done up ntil now is to rescue Sasuke although protecting naruto come into play along the way but rescuing Sasuke is her main goal and Its not because Sasuke is her teammate but because she loves him . thats a fact and her feelings hastn changed, there is nothing in the manga that hints that.

Wait Kishimoto likes keeping his characters consistent? Since when? This seris has more character development and change on each character than any other I've seen. Sure some characters stay the same, like Ino and Hinata, but is Gaara the same as he was from the beginning? Or how about Neji? And let's not forget how much Sakura and Sasuke have changed to. Oh and the claim that Sakura trained only for Sasuke's sake was disproven the second she decided to become a Medic Ninja. After all she could have just trained with Kakashi to become stronger, but she decided to ask Tsunade to train her to be a Medic after seeing Naruto in the hospital covered in bandages. Even Tsunade recoginzed the fact that Sakura was getting stronger for both of them when she thought of how having precious people is important for being a medic ninja.

Well how was that? I'm still not used to debating so if its awful I'm sorry. Oh and if I've made any mistakes please tell me.

[MBKon]

OO! WHOA!! You're running for president right?

Me: Man, it's scary how obsessed Sakura is with Sasuke
My friend: Yeah I know XD
Me: *sigh* Why can't she JUST like Naruto?
My friend: ...NO WAY! NarutoxHinata!
Me: *thinks* Ah... yeah... true...

He talks about Naruto IRL? And like they are actually real? That guy is a schizophrenic, I tell you!

[gamerman_007]

From our friends at the naruhina club i bring to you all:

"People accepting other people" <---- Naruto accepts Hinata to be strong, and ends up falling in love with her. Makes sense. Sakura already accepted Naruto so basically.. that's done. =P
Naruto accepted Hinata... what he did not accept is her feelings for him and her changed "body" <- i mean her improved nin, gen and taijutsu you perverts! lol

Nice similarity:
- Naruto has changed in 'body' but he lack 'mind' -> he isn't calm enough to become Hokage
- Hinata has changed in 'body' but she lacks 'mind' -> she isn't confident enough to rule the clan

Sakura has not accepted Naruto.
"People accepting other people" <--- will be resolved partly when Hyuuga will accept Naruto [a jinchuuriki!] as the leader of the clan.

.......yeah and aethos-san is the biggest lover of hinata i have ever dun see.

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkHope
Also... I don't think the "promise of a lifetime" thing should be taken as a NaruSaku moment.
"promise of a lifetime" was ANTI-NaruSaku! Lets see...

1. chapter 3 -> Naruto didn't know for what he loved Sakura -> silly crush, when you love someone you KNOW for what. In fact you find 1001 reasons for you love. -> Kishi shoot NaruSaku first time.
Ask Hinata why she loves Naruto -> Umm I love his eyes, his atitute, his hair, his clothes, the way he walks, the look in his eyes, the way he holds kunai... etc... etc...

riiiiight, so you're completely ignoring the fact that naruto discovered why he liked her during the henge scene.

2. chapter 172 -> Narutos acknowlegment of SasuSaku -> Kishi shoot NaruSaku second time. Look where did Hinata appear in this chapter... if it was a coincidence then Kishi is stupid.

He doesnt acknowlege sasusaku, he sees how much sakura likes sasuke. Besides hinata was at the training ground...........hows that important to naruhina?

3. chapter 183 -> Naruto promised to bring Sasuke back for Sakura despite his feelings for her. He accepted SasuSaku! -> promise was not needed! Think about it. Naruto would go and bring Sasuke back on his own without it... damm it! Kishi killed NaruSaku in that chapter...

o rly?

[Pyroneko 28]

"People accepting other people" <---- Naruto accepts Hinata to be strong, and ends up falling in love with her. Makes sense. Sakura already accepted Naruto so basically.. that's done. =P
Naruto accepted Hinata... what he did not accept is her feelings for him and her changed "body" <- i mean her improved nin, gen and taijutsu you perverts! lol

Nice similarity:
- Naruto has changed in 'body' but he lack 'mind' -> he isn't calm enough to become Hokage
- Hinata has changed in 'body' but she lacks 'mind' -> she isn't confident enough to rule the clan

Sakura has not accepted Naruto.
"People accepting other people" <--- will be resolved partly when Hyuuga will accept Naruto [a jinchuuriki!] as the leader of the clan.

First of all, that person just said Sakura has and has not accepted Naruto IN SAME POST! At least be consistent. Also, wouldn't Naruto actually getting involved in the Hyuuga's clan affairs defeat all the development that occured (especially noticable at Ch. 238)? Whatever, I'll come back to this part later.

Ask Hinata why she loves Naruto -> Umm I love his eyes, his atitute, his hair, his clothes, the way he walks, the look in his eyes, the way he holds kunai... etc... etc...

Really now... Last time I checked, Hinata admired him, and wanted to be like him.

2. chapter 172 -> Narutos acknowlegment of SasuSaku -> Kishi shoot NaruSaku second time. Look where did Hinata appear in this chapter... if it was a coincidence then Kishi is stupid.

Yes, it's quite apparent Hinata spending time with her team and wanting a get a hobby is related Naruto's dejected acceptance of Sakura's feelings.

3. chapter 183 -> Naruto promised to bring Sasuke back for Sakura despite his feelings for her. He accepted SasuSaku! -> promise was not needed! Think about it. Naruto would go and bring Sasuke back on his own without it... damm it! Kishi killed NaruSaku in that chapter...

So you Naruto didn't set aside his feelings for Sakura for her happiness!? :o ... :rolleyes:

How is it that logic worsens with time? Can someone answer that?

[Ani]

These people act like total idiots! >_<

Naruto doesn't accept SasuSaku. He loves Sakura and you should be able to tell that. He is truly hurt when Sakura asks him to bring Sasuke back. He is hurt because he understands Sakura the most out of anyone. He understands she loves Sasuke. He accepts that fact. He thinks he doesn't have a chance with Sakura. He wants to bring Sasuke back, not only for his own sake, but for Sakura. Because he wants her to be happy. He is heartbroken when he promises to bring Sasuke back, and becomes even more heartbroken when he breaks his promise. Sakura says its okay and tries to cheer up Naruto. Naruto didn't want Sakura to be sad and he continues to bring back the promise and renews it to bring back sasuke next time. It was Naruto that made Sakura want to become stronger and she promised to help Naruto next time. She wanted to become a medic ninja to protect Naruto and Sasuke. Not just Sasuke. They seem to forget that.

In Part 2, when they meet up with oro and Kabuto. Naruto goes Kyuubi. He isn't going to back down on his promise and doesn't want to break it again. When Kabuto says he sure is trying hard to bring sasuke back, Sakura remembers Naruto's promise to her. She notices Naruto is almost killing himself just to keep his promise. Sakura cries and runs to him. When she fails in her attempts, she says she can only do small things for Naruto.

Sakura doesn't think about Sasuke 24/7. She thinks about Naruto and Sasuke the most. They are her most precious people. And just because Naruto puts his feelings for sakura aside for her happiness doesn't mean he doesn't love her.

And Hinata just wants to become like Naruto. She admires him. She doesn't have romantic feelings for him. And saying fillers is what made you like a pairing is pretty sad.

[gamerman_007]

Gamerman does future realtionships XD

Sasusaku: The angsty relationship.
Sasuke is a selfish person, he will take and take, but will give little if...anything at all.
Sakura can give, but she does expect something to come out of it. In this case sasuke's love. To have a better relationship, he would need someone who can give alot without expecting anything much. In other words, a female naruto. (Narusasu fans'll love this! )

Naruhina: The subliminal hinata and naruto bashing relationship.
Why do i say its kinda like bashing? Hinata is like second place, why should naruto get second place? This is an insult to both of them. Well actually more subliminal hinata bashing, since she'll be over-shadowed by a hokage naruto. No serious hinata fan wants that(like me).

[Random Nobody]

Another interesting find gamerman, now let's see what's wrong with these arguments.

"People accepting other people" <---- Naruto accepts Hinata to be strong, and ends up falling in love with her. Makes sense. Sakura already accepted Naruto so basically.. that's done. =P

Okay so your saying Naruto can accepts Hinata and fall in love with her, but when Sakura accepts Naruto she can't fall in love with him and the relationships done. Huh? How does that work?

Naruto accepted Hinata... what he did not accept is her feelings for him and her changed "body" <- i mean her improved nin, gen and taijutsu you perverts! lol

For the last time, Naruto isn't just going to fall for Hinata if she gets stronger! Why do you always say that anyway? At what point in the manga did Naruto show he only respects strong people?

Nice similarity:
- Naruto has changed in 'body' but he lack 'mind' -> he isn't calm enough to become Hokage
- Hinata has changed in 'body' but she lacks 'mind' -> she isn't confident enough to rule the clan

Hokage's have to be calm? Since when? Just look at Tsunade, she's famous for her short temper. Besides Naruto can be calm when he needs to be so this point is invalid.
How can you tell if Hinata's gotten more confident yet? The only time we've seen her post time skip she was around Naruto and she is infamously more shy and withdrawn around him so we don't really know how much more confident she's gotten do we? Besides, like Naruto she can be confident when she needs to be like during her fight with Neji so this point is as invalid as the last one.

Sakura has not accepted Naruto.
"People accepting other people" <--- will be resolved partly when Hyuuga will accept Naruto [a jinchuuriki!] as the leader of the clan.

Despite the fact that you contradicted yourself like Pyroneko already said you've also make the assumption that Naruto will become head of the Hyuuga clan, which doesn't make any sense as it ruins both Naruto's dream of being Hokage and it ruins Hinata's dream of being the head of the clan. I guess you really are a closet Naruto and Hinata basher.

1. chapter 3 -> Naruto didn't know for what he loved Sakura -> silly crush, when you love someone you KNOW for what. In fact you find 1001 reasons for you love. -> Kishi shoot NaruSaku first time.
Ask Hinata why she loves Naruto -> Umm I love his eyes, his atitute, his hair, his clothes, the way he walks, the look in his eyes, the way he holds kunai... etc... etc...

For one, like gamerman already said, you ignored Naruto saying he understood why he liked Sakura. Also when did Hinata ever say anything about liking Narutos eyes, hair, clothes, etc. Oh that's right, she didn't. You know if your gonna try and dis NaruSaku you could at least try getting your facts straight first.

2. chapter 172 -> Narutos acknowlegment of SasuSaku -> Kishi shoot NaruSaku second time. Look where did Hinata appear in this chapter... if it was a coincidence then Kishi is stupid.

And yet Naruto still accepted when Sakura asked him on a date. I'm amazed by how much Naruto aknowledges SasuSaku, and like gamerman and Pyroneko said, how does Hinata spending time with her team equal NaruHina? Oh and the calling Kishi stupid thing is just immature. Even if NaruSaku doesn't happen I'm not gonna run around calling Kishimoto an idiot because he didn't do things the way I thought he would, that's just stupid.

3. chapter 183 -> Naruto promised to bring Sasuke back for Sakura despite his feelings for her. He accepted SasuSaku! -> promise was not needed! Think about it. Naruto would go and bring Sasuke back on his own without it... damm it! Kishi killed NaruSaku in that chapter...

Oh yea, Naruto selflessly trying to bring back Sasuke for Sakura really killed NaruSaku :rolleyes: Besides even if ch. 183 had killed NaruSaku (Which it didn't) ch.245 would have revived it and it's only been getting stronger since.

Oh and I liked your analysis of the future relationships gamerman. That's exactly why I don't like either of those pairings.

[Ani]

Nice posts, you guys.

[Vivi]

From the SasuSaku Fanclub at Nf! Guess what their name is now Yin and Yang:...

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*Warning: May contain spoilers*
1)They're total opposites, and I believe two opposites make a right.
2)Sakura determination and love for Sasuke never dissolves, and I believe never will
3)Sakura's love is what Sasuke needs (with his whole family being wiped out, and being a loner for quite a long time)
4)Sasuke could've beaten Sakura to a plump when she tried to stop him from leaving. But instead he said "Thank you."
5)When Sasuke's curse seal opens up, Sakura always pops up in his mind, and her tears are his inspiration or lift to hold the curse seal back and get back to normal.
6) Sakura already claimed and confessed how much she loved him by saying "I love you more than anything! I would do anything for you!" And not in the crushing way, the more sad and emotional way.
7)Sasuke said that one of his goals was to revive his clan, can't revive it with no Uchiha babies, can you? *coughSakuracough*
8)In the manga, whenever Sakura said anything or smilies at Naruto a certain way, Sasuke has the "jealous" expression/face.
9)Already quoted from anime and manga, Sasuke admits that he would not let anything get to and will not lose his important friends. And he was risking his life to protect them (but then Naruto jumped in)
10)Sasuke was on the brink to choosing his friends over revenge, I think he was shown the light to how important they've become to him
11)Sakura is trying to her best to improve so she can bring Sasuke back this time
12) Because they're cute together? Xp

Note to Chelsea: You, add more reasons to

Oi, maybe since the NaruHinas and SasuSakus have a title why not give our one? Tsundere would work.

[Random Nobody]

I'm not sure, but I think someone already posted that Hinata-chan. Ah well, I'll comment on it anyway.

They're total opposites, and I believe two opposites make a right.

Right cause relationship's only work when you have nothing in common with each other :rolleyes:

Sakura determination and love for Sasuke never dissolves, and I believe never will

So? She could just love him like a teamate or a brother, you know how you always claim she feels about Naruto even though she's closer to him than Sasuke.

Sakura's love is what Sasuke needs (with his whole family being wiped out, and being a loner for quite a long time)

Right that's why he went running into her arms when she confessed to him. Oh wait, he didn't do that, he knocked her unconcious and left for power anyway.

Sasuke could've beaten Sakura to a plump when she tried to stop him from leaving. But instead he said "Thank you."

Yea cause Sasuke really had a good reason to beat Sakura to a pulp. Seriously it's obvious he at least considers her a friend so the fact that he didn't beat her to a "plump" as you say (what the hell is a plump?) doesn't really mean anything.

When Sasuke's curse seal opens up, Sakura always pops up in his mind, and her tears are his inspiration or lift to hold the curse seal back and get back to normal.

If by always you mean once, and only cause she was hugging him, then yes you would be correct.

Sakura already claimed and confessed how much she loved him by saying "I love you more than anything! I would do anything for you!" And not in the crushing way, the more sad and emotional way.

So? Sasuke left anyway and broke her heart, so what makes you think she's still gonna hold on to those feeling for him after he hurt her so much?

Sasuke said that one of his goals was to revive his clan, can't revive it with no Uchiha babies, can you? *coughSakuracough*

Right cause Sasuke prioritizes that goal so much that's he's gonna give Oro his body. I don't really think he gives a damn about his clan anymore.

In the manga, whenever Sakura said anything or smilies at Naruto a certain way, Sasuke has the "jealous" expression/face.

He gets jealous whenever Sakura says anything? That doesn't even make sense, who's he jealous of? Sakura for talking? As for the smiling at Naruto, the only time he saw her do that was on the roof after the Gaara fight and he was mad cause Naruto beat Gaara when he couldn't, not cause Naruto saved Sakura.

Already quoted from anime and manga, Sasuke admits that he would not let anything get to and will not lose his important friends. And he was risking his life to protect them (but then Naruto jumped in)

So? He doesn't want to let his friends die, that doesn't mean he's gonna come back to Konoha and suddenly wanna have babies with Sakura. Besides he's trying to abadon those bonds so this doesn't even really matter to him anymore.

Sasuke was on the brink to choosing his friends over revenge, I think he was shown the light to how important they've become to him

Sakura is trying to her best to improve so she can bring Sasuke back this time

Because they're cute together? Xp

Yep that's why now he get's angry at Oro for not letting him kill them. He's really seen the light.

She's also trying her best to protect Naruto from the most dangerous group of S-Class Missing Ninja's to ever live.

So are Naruto and Sakura so your point is invalid

Oh and I'm not sure what Tsundere means so I can't really say if it's a good title or not, but I personally like the Heaven and Earth title. It sounds cool and it was in the manga so unlike everyone elses titles it's canon

EDIT....again:Quotes fixed, thanks for the help Nick

[Ani]

I believe I've seen that post before. And Sasuke was only jealous because Naruto had become stronger than him and passed where he failed. Sasuke doesn't hold romantic feelings for Sakura. And at the moment he's a complete robot, just like in the beginning, except more of a threat this time. And he's with Orochimaru. He didn't have to choose the short cut to kill Itachi, but he did. Because he did obviously care deeply about his friends. But he chose revenge in the end. And he can possibly die from doing so.

[Random Nobody]

Ah I thought that was already posted here, but I wasn't sure. I'll never understand how the SasuSaku fans think the Goodbye scene was a SasuSaku scene, she confessed her feeling to him and he abandoned her, Naruto, and the village.

And I still can't get the quotes to work in my previous post It's getting kinda frustrating.