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[ALEX SENJU]

Hey guys sorry im late to the party i had to take care of midterms.

 

Regarding the chapter i have mixed feelings. Im very happy that its not over and TNJ didnt work, and i loved the action. But kishi just had to give his precious little sasuke an ass-pull. why does sasuke always get this kind of crap and naruto gets nerfed. I mean sasuke has Perfect MS and the Rinnegan while naruto had tailed beast chakra. but now sasuke has that too and more of it. But i guess naruto isnt naruto if he doesnt fight as the underdog, which i suppose does make it more entertaining. I just wish we didnt already know the outcome of the fight, thanks to the new movie, it really ruins the suspense.  I am glad we got to see sakura even if it was just in a flashback.  

 

If there was a hope of a chance to continue the story in a seperate manga I would personally wish for that it focuses on Naruto leading his own genin team and begin to learn leadership and possibly find ideas of how to achieve peace and cooperation for future generations through teaching his team.

And to add a little more flare Sasuke becomes a wanderer and eventually takes up an apprentice of his own and coincidently becomes rivals with Naruto's #1 troublesome student.

And add little more comedy into the story his students make fun and tease him when he is being close with Sakura, especially his female student who likes being teached by Sakura about medical ninjutsu.

It would be dream come true if that happened XD hehehehehe lol

Yeah i completely agree it would be awesome if naruto continued in a sequel manga. even if its just his son i would read it in a heartbeat. (given that the pairing wars are over)

 

^^ Lol. You know what I found funny?

 

Sasuke in 695-  " I'll beat Naruto, I'll become Hokage- I'll do it all by myself. I don't need anyone to help me ! ".

Sasuke in 696- " Turns out I can't beat Naruto using my own power. Hey Bijuus, I need your help. Give me your chakras ". 

LOL i didnt think about that, Sasuke is such a hypocrite and i just thought of another parallel kishi did between sasuke and oro. They both are seeking immortality now. 

[narusaku256]

I still have not been able to figure out the need to make Sasuke stronger than Naruto. Not even needed....Just to show how badass Sasuke is? GIMME A BREAK!

[ALEX SENJU]

Yeah for once couldn't they just fight as equals.

 

And did anyone else get angry when sasuke made the remark about naruto's shadow clone jutsu. To be honest i never thought of it that way but it makes sense. its symbolic to how lonely naruto really was and im surprised sasuke actually thought about someone besides himself that much. The sasunaru bond is strong. 

[AHK]

I still have not been able to figure out the need to make Sasuke stronger than Naruto. Not even needed....Just to show how badass Sasuke is? GIMME A BREAK!

Idk, Naruto, by Sasuke's own admission, has been holding back. Sasuke had to steal the chakra of the Bijuu, and Naruto didn't even blink, he just started to gather nature energy rapidly. Honestly, I'd have to say that this point that Sasuke's power is just glamour, looks like Naruto is actually stronger than the guy.

[narusaku256]

Idk, Naruto, by Sasuke's own admission, has been holding back. Sasuke had to steal the chakra of the Bijuu, and Naruto didn't even blink, he just started to gather nature energy rapidly. Honestly, I'd have to say that this point that Sasuke's power is just glamour, looks like Naruto is actually stronger than the guy.

He always was! It was never the case of no talent. It was always the case of unexploited talent. Whom did Naruto have while he grew up? His true progress started when he became a Part of Team 7 and his progress was at its peak when Jiraiya sensei took him over as his student. Don't forget the damage caused by Rasengan and Chidori respectively on the tanks. Even then....Sasuke's chidori damage was shown to be much more massive when in reality Rasengan did hell lot more damage than Rasengan! But what were we shown? How much Chidori damaged the tank and how little Rasengan did. The actual damage was only seen by Sasuke. No Sakura, No Kakashi. Sasuke does something powerful, once in a blue moon which is not even that powerful to begin with but still I give him the benefit of the doubt. Εveryone and I repeat everyone notices it and puts him on a pedestal and gives reactions as if he's done something too great. When Naruto does it....either it is ignored or he is appreciated way way too lesser than what he should be and of course, lesser than Sasuke!

Edited by narusaku256, 17 October 2014 - 04:25 PM.

[*- ZerΩ -*]

Idk, Naruto, by Sasuke's own admission, has been holding back. Sasuke had to steal the chakra of the Bijuu, and Naruto didn't even blink, he just started to gather nature energy rapidly. Honestly, I'd have to say that this point that Sasuke's power is just glamour, looks like Naruto is actually stronger than the guy.

I think that Naruto didnt show us actually the full potential of his power.

Just think of it :

1)Naruto: I want to defeat you, BUT NOT in this state you are now...

That means that he is holding back.

2)Naruto has control of all the elements since hes the bijuu of all the bijuus

3) And the most important thing:

Naruto is the master of the SEXY CLONE JUTSU!!

[Nostradamus]

^^ Lol. You know what I found funny?

 

Sasuke in 695-  " I'll beat Naruto, I'll become Hokage- I'll do it all by myself. I don't need anyone to help me ! ".

Sasuke in 696- " Turns out I can't beat Naruto using my own power. Hey Bijuus, I need your help. Give me your chakras ". 

That's Sasuke. He can't even stay true to his own words for a minute or in this case a chapter.

[Gojira]

Anyone else absolutely hate the way Kishi has been setting up NS these past few years?

[AHK]

He always was! It was never the case of no talent. It was always the case of unexploited talent. Whom did Naruto have while he grew up? His true progress started when he became a Part of Team 7 and his progress was at its peak when Jiraiya sensei took him over as his student. Don't forget the damage caused by Rasengan and Chidori respectively on the tanks. Even then....Sasuke's chidori damage was shown to be much more massive when in reality Rasengan did hell lot more damage than Rasengan! But what were we shown? How much Chidori damaged the tank and how little Rasengan did. The actual damage was only seen by Sasuke. No Sakura, No Kakashi. Sasuke does something powerful, once in a blue moon which is not even that powerful to begin with but still I give him the benefit of the doubt. Εveryone and I repeat everyone notices it and puts him on a pedestal and gives reactions as if he's done something too great. When Naruto does it....either it is ignored or he is appreciated way way too lesser than what he should be and of course, lesser than Sasuke!

 

I found it hilarious that the Rasengan was stronger than the Chidori. Kakashi said that the creation of the Chidori was a result of a failed attempt to add a simultaneous change in nature and change in form to Minato's Rasengan. He couldn't ever complete the new Rasengan, so he created the Chidori, which was a change in form that was inferior to the Rasengan and added lightning to it. But at the same time, the Rasengan was always meant to have a nature element added to it, and the basic Rasengan is incomplete without it. So basically, all this time, Sasuke has been acting like he's on Naruto's level, when Naruto was countering Sasuke's best jutsu with an incomplete jutsu XD

I think that Naruto didnt show us actually the full potential of his power.

Just think of it :

1)Naruto: I want to defeat you, BUT NOT in this state you are now...

That means that he is holding back.

2)Naruto has control of all the elements since hes the bijuu of all the bijuus

3) And the most important thing:

Naruto is the master of the SEXY CLONE JUTSU!!

Not to mention that Naruto's control over natural energy is off the charts. He tried accumulating it in the last chapter and said that his gain in nature energy is much faster than before.

 

Naruto doesn't need the Sexy Clone Jutsu, he just need to create around 1000 of them and transform half into Itachi, and Sasuke will be in a Naruto/Itachi harem heaven. While he's distracted, Naruto goes over and gives him a good conk on the head. World = saved.

[narusaku256]

 
I found it hilarious that the Rasengan was stronger than the Chidori. Kakashi said that the creation of the Chidori was a result of a failed attempt to add a simultaneous change in nature and change in form to Minato's Rasengan. He couldn't ever complete the new Rasengan, so he created the Chidori, which was a change in form that was inferior to the Rasengan and added lightning to it. But at the same time, the Rasengan was always meant to have a nature element added to it, and the basic Rasengan is incomplete without it. So basically, all this time, Sasuke has been acting like he's on Naruto's level, when Naruto was countering Sasuke's best jutsu with an incomplete jutsu XD
Not to mention that Naruto's control over natural energy is off the charts. He tried accumulating it in the last chapter and said that his gain in nature energy is much faster than before.
 

THIS EXACTLY kittenIN THIS!!!!! And yet everytime.....Sasuke is shown at an advantage when Naruto and Sasuke are both into picture!

[Awes9]

I still have not been able to figure out the need to make Sasuke stronger than Naruto. Not even needed....Just to show how badass Sasuke is? GIMME A BREAK!

Honestly it doesnt make Sasuke look better quite the contrary, that he needs the bijuu's power plus the rinnegan shows how much Naruto is stronger than him prior to this power-up, power-up that he will lose at the end of the day. At this point Naruto is tiers above him, not that I complain but it just doesn't make a lot of sense.

[Gojira]

Another reason why im excited SP is taking over the Naruto series

Because Kishi is the main problem....atleast with this theres little chance of Sasuke be oming everyones fantasies

[James S Cassidy]

THIS EXACTLY kittenIN THIS!!!!! And yet everytime.....Sasuke is shown at an advantage when Naruto and Sasuke are both into picture!

I don't think Sasuke has an advantage. I don't see Sasuke being stronger at all. Yeah he has the rinnegan and blah blah blah, but Naruto has been shown to do things far greater than Sasuke. Sasuke may have more techniques, but Naruto has a lot more power. Again, like I said a few times before, it is like Batman vs Superman with Sasuke being Batman and Naruto being Superman.

 

[narusaku256]

Honestly it doesnt make Sasuke look better quite the contrary, that he needs the bijuu's power plus the rinnegan shows how much Naruto is stronger than him prior to this power-up, power-up that he will lose at the end of the day. At this point Naruto is tiers above him, not that I complain but it just doesn't make a lot of sense.

All this is fine and I agree with it for all I know. But...when Kishi establishes the fact that Naruto and Sasuke are equal(I still don't know how but still...)why not make them fight as equal and let them fire their best attacks as against favouring one and again making one an underdog. Yes! He did establish what you said right now. But when they are said to be equal they HAVE TO fight as equals and not make conditions favourable for the other. He'd still show Naruto beating Sasuke and all....but...really...does Sasuke deserve those powerups when therr are many eligible candidates for that?

[narusaku256]

I don't think Sasuke has an advantage. I don't see Sasuke being stronger at all. Yeah he has the rinnegan and blah blah blah, but Naruto has been shown to do things far greater than Sasuke. Sasuke may have more techniques, but Naruto has a lot more power. Again, like I said a few times before, it is like Batman vs Superman with Sasuke being Batman and Naruto being Superman.

 

Sorry for the double posting everyone but I am using my cellphone and I can't use the multiquote feature.

Now, who said Sasuke has an advantage? Hell! Whatever Sasuke does, the current Naruto would beat him inside out no matter what Sasuke does. He's just that kind of a guy. I just want to say that Naruto could've been portrayed better and could be given the praise and acknowledgment in the latter part on the same level as Sasuke was given. Basically, I am of the opinion that Naruto being stronger than Sasuke should be a spoken truth and not unspoken or based on analysis. That should come naturally. Much like how Goku was stronger than Vejeta no matter what

[James S Cassidy]

Sorry for the double posting everyone but I am using my cellphone and I can't use the multiquote feature.

Now, who said Sasuke has an advantage? Hell! Whatever Sasuke does, the current Naruto would beat him inside out no matter what Sasuke does. He's just that kind of a guy. I just want to say that Naruto could've been portrayed better and could be given the praise and acknowledgment in the latter part on the same level as Sasuke was given. Basically, I am of the opinion that Naruto being stronger than Sasuke should be a spoken truth and not unspoken or based on analysis. That should come naturally. Much like how Goku was stronger than Vejeta no matter what

Bolded: Ummm....you did.

If anything, Sasuke's entire power scheme has been only word of mouth and not visual aspects. Naruto has shown not only to be a more competent fighter than Sasuke, but also more personal raw power. Sasuke has to keep borrowing energy from other people or things just to even be a fraction of what naruto can do. He had to take Itachi's eyes, had to use juugo's abilities, and now has to use the tailed beasts.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 17 October 2014 - 05:19 PM.

[narusaku256]

Bolded: Ummm....you did.

If anything, Sasuke's entire power scheme has been only word of mouth and not visual aspects. Naruto has shown not only to be a more competent fighter than Sasuke, but also more personal raw power. Sasuke has to keep borrowing energy from other people or things just to even be a fraction of what naruto can do. He had to take Itachi's eyes, had to use juugo's abilities, and now has to use the tailed beasts.

You are mistaking it my friend. I never said Sasuke has an advantage over Naruto. I have a problem with their portrayal. Basically, to sum it up, despite Naruto doing and having everything you and the others said, his character is never given justice. Like I said...some small display of power by Sasuke...everyone goes 'WOAAHHHH HE'S SO FAST/STRONG'. Same thing Naruto does and all we get is '!!' and this is valid when BOTH of them are concerned and together. Individually, Naruto gets a fair share of compliments and acknowledgment but when its both of them....Sasuke is always put on a pedestal

Edited by narusaku256, 17 October 2014 - 06:15 PM.

[KeikoxYusuke]

Anyone else absolutely hate the way Kishi has been setting up NS these past few years?

if I was Anti NS I would agree with you, but since I'm not.....<.<

Why do you dislike that? Are you questioning the build-up?

[tonga1]

sooo about the rikudo weapons, looked like it would have some relevance..but no :s

[narusaku256]

sooo about the rikudo weapons, looked like it would have some relevance..but no :s

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