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[alexander]

http://mangafast.onl...a/nisekoi/227/3

 

*Gasp* a manga were the protagonist moves on from an old love to a new one because he decided it's the best for him.... the shonem jump office must be ablaze with people screaming left and right. They cannot possibly compute this kind of development.

[rocci]

http://mangafast.onl...a/nisekoi/227/3
 
*Gasp* a manga were the protagonist moves on from an old love to a new one because he decided it's the best for him.... the shonem jump office must be ablaze with people screaming left and right. They cannot possibly compute this kind of development.

Naruto move on from old love to new love

[TouKen4Life3g]

Naruto move on from old love to new love

Don't remind me. That excuse is beyond pathetic. I could have accept it but the reason and how is so...Sigh.

Btw, I caught up in 3 days and I got to say, this chapter was great. No joke. I think you have to be really bias to hate it. I was shocked on how much it was covered. From feeling scumbag for liking two girls, yes, he actually said it and I was like "WHAT! Acknowledgement?! Does not compute!" to the point that love works mysterious way that you don't even know but you know you do. Truth be told, as I read it, I already got the sense the end was planned and in a way, I'm happy that the new editor managed to give him more time to get a conclusive and shockingly thoughtful ending. No countdown and I was more hyped than Bleach and I only started this year. Is that sad?

Edited by TouKen4Life3g, 21 July 2016 - 01:54 PM.

[rocci]

@touken
Tbh, it doesn't get any explanation in the manga. It just happen.
You need to watch a movie for that lol.

Well, naruto love triangle is between naruto sakura and Hinata, I can see Hinata would the girl, but it doesn't like that in the manga.

Sad? Nay, you only miss the drama.

Edited by rocci, 21 July 2016 - 02:07 PM.

[alexander]

I seriously wonder if Kishimoto reads this stuff and then wonders to himself how garbage his writing is in comparision?

[TouKen4Life3g]

@touken
Tbh, it doesn't get any explanation in the manga. It just happen.
You need to watch a movie for that lol.

Well, naruto love triangle is between naruto sakura and Hinata, I can see Hinata would the girl, but it doesn't like that in the manga.

You didn't watch the movie, right? I did and my God, it was awful. It made no sense, Naruto flip switched like nothing, doesn't connect with the manga at all, no chemistry, and all in all forced beyond comprehension. Everything gets brushed aside like it's cool, including Kushina's scarf. Trust me, I tried to accept it, but it was pathetic. Thank god for France reviewers understanding how bad it was.

The manga tried to be everything in one but failed in all. The only thing it did right in some standards is flashy moments, but that's all.

[LuckyChi7]

So I just read the latest chapter and OMG I'll admit 100% I've now shifted sides 100% given the development call it a James situation with NH and then he switched over to NaruSaku due to their development. That's what this was for me,  I mean it was such a beautiful chapter and I'm glad it went in this direction with Raku x Chitoge: 

 

 

 

I mean seriously we went from this to.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

RAKU X CHITOGE  I'M PROUD!! 

 

 

 

 

 

KISHI TAKE NOTES!!!

Edited by LuckyChi7, 21 July 2016 - 02:18 PM.

[harry4e]

Ask Kishimoto why Naruto likes Hinata, or why Sakura likes Sasuke, or why Sasuke likes Sakura, and he'll probably have a couple of vain reasons, and here we get an entire chapter giving us the reason, that dispite her faults, dispite Onodera being a much better marrying candidate, Chitoge was the girl he fell in love with.

 

This is an end that makes you forgive the fault the manga had over the years (like over the a years worth or pointless filler,) where the other made you regret your decision to ever read a single chapter.

[alexander]

Ask Kishimoto why Naruto likes Hinata, or why Sakura likes Sasuke, or why Sasuke likes Sakura, and he'll probably have a couple of vain reasons, and here we get an entire chapter giving us the reason, that dispite her faults, dispite Onodera being a much better marrying candidate, Chitoge was the girl he fell in love with.

 

This is an end that makes you forgive the fault the manga had over the years (like over the a years worth or pointless filler,) where the other made you regret your decision to ever read a single chapter.

 

Couldn't say it better myself. Naruto would probally still have an overal lame ending, but at least, if Kishimoto made an moment like that for Naruto and Sakura at the very end... romance wise, at the very least, would have concluded the series masterfully.

[rocci]

Some ask, will this be naruto all over again?

If onodera "win", it would be naruto all over again.
Maybe they thought first girl "lose" = naruto outcome.

@alexander
He has opportunity to do that and he doesn't do that.
And that's what make me angry the most.

Edited by rocci, 22 July 2016 - 12:00 AM.

[Phantom_999]

At last. FINALLY!

[TouKen4Life3g]

Ask Kishimoto why Naruto likes Hinata, or why Sakura likes Sasuke, or why Sasuke likes Sakura, and he'll probably have a couple of vain reasons, and here we get an entire chapter giving us the reason, that dispite her faults, dispite Onodera being a much better marrying candidate, Chitoge was the girl he fell in love with.
 
This is an end that makes you forgive the fault the manga had over the years (like over the a years worth or pointless filler,) where the other made you regret your decision to ever read a single chapter.

Honestly, year 3 saved this manga, though I don't think it was bad, now that I read it. It's more of above average at the time though I think fair is fair grade, though could go lower have it continue longer with pointless moments, but year 3 is a come back that Bleach and Naruto solely missed.

Edited by TouKen4Life3g, 22 July 2016 - 01:39 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Some ask, will this be naruto all over again?

If onodera "win", it would be naruto all over again.
Maybe they thought first girl "lose" = naruto outcome.

@alexander
He has opportunity to do that and he doesn't do that.
And that's what make me angry the most.

Well, after reading, I could understand but the point and purpose would be completely wasted. The fact mangaka went through this route is actually surprising. I'm not saying the choice that has been made is unique and never been done ever, but I think how it was addressed was well done and because of my fresh memory, I can see the bigger picture.

If you read it, year 1 was really motivated to be a really compelling fun series. Year 2 has moments, but you can tell he struggled to keep it long without being repetitive, which it did. Year 3 is a call back to year 1 writing and it only makes you wish this series was shorter.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Someone has asked me various questions based on this series and I want to share it with you. Enjoy:

 

 

anonymous asked:

 

What do you think about first girl win? What happen if first girl doesn't win?How do you think about Nisekoi?Some people tried to parallel Nisekoi and naruto from the aspect of "first girl" lose, do you think that comparison legit or not?

 

Let’s get this out of the way first and foremost. I don’t care or rather it doesn’t matter about the first girl is the winner ordeal. It’s all about the story structure and how it was presented. It doesn’t need to have that some sort of rule if the story don’t work that way. What really matter is the development and its characters, because people need to remember that development exist.

 

There are people that are willing to damage the story so long they get their pairing to occur. In other words, who care if it ruins the moral, the buildup, the foundation, or anything that connects to good writing, if they can get their pairing to happen.

 

Comparing to Naruto is an absolute joke and insulting to Komi and his work Nisekoi. You don’t need to hate a pairing or be that biased to know that the romance aspect of Naruto is among the worst in Weekly Shounen Jump. Yes, it’s not the focus of the series, but when it comes to having it in as a subplot, it’s done incredibly poorly.

 

First of all, compare to the characters and their traits, such as tsundere, because that’s how you do a comparison. In fact, that’s why people want Chitoge to lose because she’s a tsundere. It’s a reminder that it’s still a thing in Japan, even though in reality, we all have a choice on what love interest ends up with. I often joke that people may have a big ego trip from Naruto that entering Nisekoi could lead them to another win. Well, if you do go by the standards of “not knowing what to do since I am a rookie” that Naruto brought, then you’re in for a rude awakening.

 

Second, if the first girl lost is a new excuse, then whatever, I have no business on telling them what to do. However, if this is a trend that has been around, then I wouldn’t know. Truth be told, I barely follow the tropes or anything because I just follow what the writing is telling me. I won’t say that every story is top notch if ignoring the “been there done that” materials, but I think it’s just there to remind “they did it,” like an encyclopedia of what The Simpsons already did.

 

So the comparison with Naruto and Nisekoi is rubbish because one was done right by its standards and the other one is done horrifically. Funny that you asked me because I just got back from random tour of mine of seeing what to do and what not to do for video reviews, so seeing someone’s review of The Last remind me everything on what was wrong. Till this day, I still find that movie awful and even if by normal standard of a fan, it’s really not good. I know there are fans that is more go with the ride then cumulate the entire package, like Erased for instance, but when you are in the latter, you’ll see the greater picture.

 

As for Nisekoi, well, I don’t want to go over thoroughly, but I will say that I find it to be enjoyable and I can see why people got disappointed, but the hate is really exaggerated. To be honest, I find this series more hyped to me than Bleach at the moment and I recently caught up with Nisekoi. I followed Bleach for perhaps 12 years yet I feel like it’s just ending. I have to comment this: I feel that Nisekoi managed to do a come back that Bleach and Naruto failed to obtain in their final hours.

 

I can go on but needless to say, at the very least, Nisekoi is going to end good while the others, well, yeah. I actually found the latest chapter riveting. I was bewildered that this type of chapter even happened. Well done. Feel free to ask anything else. Bottom line is this:

 

-Don’t worry much on concept of first girl lose
-Comparison is done by traits, not tropes
-Naruto romance isn’t that good at all
-Nisekoi is thumbs up from me

 

Thank you for asking.

 

Edited by TouKen4Life3g, 22 July 2016 - 03:19 AM.

[RyohkiFan]

Someone has asked me various questions based on this series and I want to share it with you. Enjoy:
 
 
 

 

Not gonna lie but hearing about Naruto gets annoying however I completely agree with everything you wrote here.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Not gonna lie but hearing about Naruto gets annoying however I completely agree with everything you wrote here.

Same here....same here.....

[rocci]

Someone has asked me various questions based on this series and I want to share it with you. Enjoy:
 
 
 

 

Trying to compare naruto ending with Nisekoi is like admitting that Hinata is a tsundere.

That's why I disagree with that troll in naruto general that said naruto has similiarity with ichigo 100% ending forgetting that both heroine are viable and both are the main characters.

I think some people want to compare naruto ending uproar with Nisekoi.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Trying to compare naruto ending with Nisekoi is like admitting that Hinata is a tsundere.

That's why I disagree with that troll in naruto general that said naruto has similiarity with ichigo 100% ending forgetting that both heroine are viable and both are the main characters.

I think some people want to compare naruto ending uproar with Nisekoi.

That annoys me as well with Ichigo 100%. Funny because that mangaka obviously supported NaruSaku since it is similar to the story, so what does that tell you.

Nisekoi hasn't ended but it's baffling to even compare because one followed the structure and the other just throw everything in and say, "Look, I created an ending!" The funny thing is the uproar that Naruto could have gotten as in NaruSaku being canon, so you can say, "Now we're even." Seriously, the more I remind myself the materials in Naruto, the more I remember why the pairing is completely awful. At least in Bleach, if there's any pairing, if IchiHime happens, at least it would match the parents of Ichigo well, yet Naruto killed everything it has to do with parallel.

[harry4e]

Honestly, year 3 saved this manga, though I don't think it was bad, now that I read it. It's more of above average at the time though I think fair is fair grade, though could go lower have it continue longer with pointless moments, but year 3 is a come back that Bleach and Naruto solely missed.

 

I didn't think the manga was bad, but it was lame, there was hardly any story progression for the majority of the manga, they were amusing to read, but there were so man chapters I could take of Mari's failed attempt at getting Riku to fall for her, or Tsugumi getting into some unfortunate mischief because of a failed gadget she accidently ends up using.

[rocci]

 
I didn't think the manga was bad, but it was lame, there was hardly any story progression for the majority of the manga, they were amusing to read, but there were so man chapters I could take of Mari's failed attempt at getting Riku to fall for her, or Tsugumi getting into some unfortunate mischief because of a failed gadget she accidently ends up using.

Does this make Nisekoi inferior version of ichigo 100%?

Edited by rocci, 22 July 2016 - 03:29 PM.