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[James S Cassidy]

Oiy that's all we need, but chances are it will some stupid moment that is taking extremely out of context that many people will claim means it is canon like 615....even though Sasuke has NEVER been shown to love Sakura at all.

And if that is the case, if it really is just a red herring, can we really call it a "SS moment?"

Edited by James S Cassidy, 16 January 2014 - 07:03 PM.

[T XD]

SS will be canon in the next chapter. Color pages are due to this

Will there be a cover too or just color pages in the beginning of next chapter ?

[BakeNeko-Chan]

Are people going to be talking about possible SS moments until the next chapter? Because if so it's going to get old fast. Worrying about it and saying to "brace ourselves" won't ultimately change whatever happens so what's the point?

[Akashi]

Oiy that's all we need, but chances are it will some stupid moment that is taking extremely out of context that many people will claim means it is canon like 615....even though Sasuke has NEVER been shown to love Sakura at all.

And if that is the case, if it really is just a red herring, can we really call it a "SS moment?"

To be quite honest, I want someone to inform Sakura of Sasuke's condition. Just to dismiss all "if she knew about what happened to Sasuke, she'd save him" arguments.

[LuckyChi7]

Oiy that's all we need, but chances are it will some stupid moment that is taking extremely out of context that many people will claim means it is canon like 615....even though Sasuke has NEVER been shown to love Sakura at all.

And if that is the case, if it really is just a red herring, can we really call it a "SS moment?"

 

Good question, I really wouldn't call it that cause remember in 631 when Sasuke shows up on the battlefield. I remember there were several SS fans saying "OMG he said Sakura, and she was like Sasuke!" When really  she was just surprised to see him, nothing else. Truth is I see Sakura showing more concern towards Naruto because he actually looks like he's dead (somewhat). Sasuke on the other hand will probably survive due to the jutsu that Hashirama has given him. The only person I'm expecting to do something for Sasuke is Karin for obvious reasons.  

Edited by LuckyChi7, 16 January 2014 - 07:15 PM.

[sushi.]

I don't think Sasuke is even in danger. He'll get a quick heal, or it's just a trick.

It's Naruto we should worry about, there's not much anyone can do for him at the moment. Kurama obviously knows something and if Gaara does what he told him, Sakura might not be the one to save him. To Kurama she is a regular medic, so bringing him to her would be a gamble. Naruto needs special treatment immediately. But I hope she'll save him!

Edited by sushi., 19 January 2014 - 10:59 PM.

[T XD]

Are people going to be talking about possible SS moments until the next chapter? Because if so it's going to get old fast. Worrying about it and saying to "brace ourselves" won't ultimately change whatever happens so what's the point?

Yeah. If Sakura didn't know about Naruto's condition next chapter, why would she know about Sasuke's ? If she does know about Naruto then possibly she'll know about Sasuke... That if Sasuke will stay injured.

Edited by T XD, 16 January 2014 - 07:31 PM.

[Nostradamus]

I don't even understand why people believe a SS moment is coming. What exactly gave you guys that impression?

I mean what are we going to see Sakura running to heal Sasuke and then Sasuke as he is dying he's going to admit that he loved her from the first moment he saw her and he'll apologize for trying to kill her multiple times and the reason he wanted to kill her is because if he couldn't have her no one else could have her. And then Sakura is going to admit that's the most romantic thing she has ever heard and then they are going to make out.

Let's be serious now, shall we?

We already know Sakura doesn't trust Sasuke. Sasuke on the other hand doesn't really care about Sakura. So what gave you the impression that a SS moment is coming?

Edited by Nostradamus, 16 January 2014 - 07:25 PM.

[六道仙人]

Will there be a cover too or just color pages in the beginning of next chapter ?

 

lead cover (WSJ) + colour pages (cover + frst page of chapter). for the 15the anniversary.

[James S Cassidy]

I don't even understand why people believe a SS moment is coming. What exactly gave you guys that impression?

I mean what are we going to see Sakura running to heal Sasuke and then Sasuke as he is dying he's going to admit that he loved her from the first moment he saw her and he'll apologize for trying to kill her multiple times and the reason he wanted to kill her is because if he couldn't have her no one else could have her. And then Sakura is going to admit that's the most romantic thing she has ever heard and then they are going to make out.

Let's be serious now, shall we?

We already know Sakura doesn't trust Sasuke. Sasuke on the other hand doesn't really care about Sakura. So what gave you the impression that a SS moment is coming?

 

Paranoia mostly.

 

And other fanbases claiming their stuff. I always find it funny how again that red herrings only exist in the NS camp of moments, but all NH or SS moments are legit full blown moments. -sigh-

[TouKen4Life3g]

For color cover to have only on Sasuke, as I understand the color pages, is odd, because well it's about celebrating 15th anniversary of Naruto. So I expect Naruto on front no matter what. Hell, 616 waiting was more believable than this because you could put Naruto and Hinata, so long Naruto is showcased. That said I don't know what cactus juice they're drinking from.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Plus for the last time, Sasuke is not a good guy. Why people don't get this. Hell, he was like whatever to Hashirama. If it was Naruto, he'll be like all pity but courageous. So, we are dismissing 634, 635, and 639 now. This is the guy that said let's leave while everyone dies from Bijuu bomb frenzy.

[James S Cassidy]

Plus for the last time, Sasuke is not a good guy. Why people don't get this. Hell, he was like whatever to Hashirama. If it was Naruto, he'll be like all pity but courageous. So, we are dismissing 634, 635, and 639 now. This is the guy that said let's leave while everyone dies from Bijuu bomb frenzy.

Welcome to the Naruto fandom.

Sasuke is the main character and no matter how bad he is he will always be the "good guy."

 

Hinata is the perfect little princess practically perfect in every way and is meant to be so subservient that the perfect woman is one that is willing to do anything to make her man happy.

Sakura is too much of a b*tch and apparently is not a perfect woman because she believes in inner strength and not bowing down to any man.

And Naruto is just a dumbass who has a gay crush on Sasuke and is inferior to him in every way.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 16 January 2014 - 08:42 PM.

[LuckyChi7]

I don't even understand why people believe a SS moment is coming. What exactly gave you guys that impression?

I mean what are we going to see Sakura running to heal Sasuke and then Sasuke as he is dying he's going to admit that he loved her from the first moment he saw her and he'll apologize for trying to kill her multiple times and the reason he wanted to kill her is because if he couldn't have her no one else could have her. And then Sakura is going to admit that's the most romantic thing she has ever heard and then they are going to make out.

Let's be serious now, shall we?

We already know Sakura doesn't trust Sasuke. Sasuke on the other hand doesn't really care about Sakura. So what gave you the impression that a SS moment is coming?

 

Tell me about it, remember the hints about Sakura's suspicion towards Sasuke when he entered the battlefield to assist the shinobi alliance. So how about we just take a deep breath and relax for a bit.

 

I mean while Naruto and Sasuke were fighting Obito, Sakura continued showing concern to Naruto then Sasuke.

 

Okay let's look back at how concerned Sakura was for Naruto before and after Sasuke shows up. 

 

 

628:

 

 

 

Sakura's concern for Naruto  

 

629:

 

 

After the Jubbi's Attack on The Alliance 

 

 

 

630: 

 

 

When The Jubbi is about use a Bijuu Bomb

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sakura's Speech about Naruto 

 

631:

 

 

 

After The Sakura-Kushina Parallel

 

 

 

When Sasuke shows up 

 

 

 

       

 

Her Initial Reaction 

 

 

Sakura's Full Reaction

 

 

Where She gets suspicious  

 

 

 

Sasuke's Response

 

 

Naruto and Sakura's  (NS) Reaction 

 

 

After Naruto is fully healed 

 

 

Sakura's response to Naruto.  

 

 

632: 

 

 

Naruto and Sasuke rush in to save Sakura. 

 

Of course Sasuke was first, and Naruto was second (The only time that's happened in The War)

 

Sakura thanks him indirectly (Again it's only happened once)

 

However at the end of the chapter her attention goes back to Naruto

  

634:

 

 

 

Sakura's second suspicion towards Sasuke  

 

635: 

 

 

 

 

Sai asking Sakura about Sasuke 

 

 

 

 

Sakura's answer and fake smile  

 

641: 

 

 

Sakura asking Hinata about Naruto (1st) and Sasuke's (2nd) status

 

647:

 

 

 

Sakura's Reaction to seeing what's inside Naruto's heart.

 

649:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sakura's second concern for Naruto.

 

 

So as you can say Sakura's concern for Naruto hasn't changed that much since Sasuke's entered the battlefield. So I already know what to expect once Sakura sees Naruto again, even though Sasuke got stabbed (He'll survive).     

Edited by LuckyChi7, 16 January 2014 - 10:41 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Why are we jumping conclusion about Sasuke being close to death? Hell, shouldn't this be fool me twice scenario right now? I mean I remember Sasuke vs Itachi had tons of that. Keep in focus, people.

[Inferno180]

Its really nothing to be alarmed about for next chapter

 

Really in the short period of 631 and 635, its funny how quickly so many people forget these 2 short moments, 631 for the sakura-kushina link hinting possible NS stuff for in the future and many other fans still think its unimportant despite being a foreshadow saying things may go this way, rather even the simple notion of how kushina said find a girl like her, minato comparing sakura to kushina, sakura being the only girl in anyway compared to kushina, really its a simple easy equation and I'm still amazed how people reacted to 631 because of that simple notion and how for years NS fans told it and this was practically obvious from the start, it was easier to see miles away kushina was like sakura years before 631, it was easier to see than obito being tobi, yet people foolishly denied it, so at this point Sakura is still the only girl canonically compared to kushina, doesnt matter that naruto is compared to kushina, naruto is like both parents, this doesnt change the fact no other girls, even hinata have been compared canonically, no amount of arguing naruto being like kushina changes this, I mean it was written for a reason, kishi said years ago at least one pairing would come, one case of unretiquted love returned. When Kushina came in, she said for naruto to find a girl like her, by process of elimination, SasuSaku was already out of this catagory, the one pairing at least would be half naruto, the other half a girl like Kushina as the clue, this perfectly left both NaruSaku and NaruHina as the suspected ones as logically by the manga, naruto had a crush on sakura and hinata had a crush on naruto. But since kushina came in after the land of iron, people assumed naruto "was over" Sakura, yet in all the time NH had an opportunity to grow, it didnt. Likewise the funny deal was, in the evidence we had back then with Kushina, her limited background and early interaction with Minato, it was just too obvious, NS is dead yet we get a clue about a final pairing and that girl like kushina? Well look at the background of kushina, maybe the fact she never used to love minato was a big clue but people somehow thought this meant they should flip Minato like Hinata despite kushina saying find a girl like her. Others just assumed naruto would give up on sakura despite still trying to get sasuke and that was a reason making no sense. Then we get the even worse situation of people thinking the changed dialouge of kushinas foreshadow, dont fall for the first who comes your way was somehow going to change things when original dialouge is always more important than altered, seriously if some western fans rely on the viz translations and think "Oh NH will come" despite the events of 631, thats just vizs own damned fault for following just the dialouge, seriously, if the kushina thing wasnt even a factor, then why have it occur. Seriously, people put off the simple fact Sakura is the only girl so far compared to kushina, how hard is this to piece together, its not the most important thing for NS to be canon, I mean it already has the development, but as far as kushinas foreshadow goes, as much as so many pairing fans followed it, what else is there to suspect at this point? seriously, you dont put something like that in and then bring it up again without a slight revelation. Kushina's foreshadow in the flashback was made to set at that point in the story, a hint at part of the ending, it was built on in 631, yet people either call it unimportant or think its a joke, otherwise what else is there to go on? This is really a simple thing in hindsight but what else is the kushina foreshadow, which hints a girl with naruto, what else is there to go on? As far as things go, its still pointing at NS.

 

Likewise 635, people keep saying Sakura is always on Sasuke this and that, thinking that she is going to save Sasuke next chapter, in the middle of the battlefield or hoping she dies reviving naruto? Thats just no, neither is going to happen. Even then the chiyo technique most think she, kakashi, or tsunade somehow have, chiyo died with the knowledge of the technique, just thinking about sakura or tsunade suddenly having it is more sudden and out of the blue than madara using sussano with no eyes. I mean it was sudden sakura got her seal but there was a small hint from time to time about her surpassing tsunade. But seriously, did so many SS fans suddenly forget the giant gaping hole that is Sakura doesn't trust Sasuke, I mean Sasuke never loved Sakura so the pairing was only alive halfway but it just got worse and now with sakura not trusting sasuke, thats not love, thats fragmentation. Sakura not trusting sasuke is a big indicator that something negative is going on, negative for her view towards him in turn means its negative for SS. Not to mention, just why and just why should sasuke love sakura after all this time? Sure he saw her as a friend in part 1 but nothing more than that ever. I seriously dont understand why people still assume she is just going to love Sasuke or that even more out of place how Sasuke would just suddenly love sakura, its just rendered impossible at this point just for the sole fact of sasuke never having loved or even having a proper story reason for it, it would be so out of place, it would be more baffling than the Sussano hack madara did. Why and just why should sasuke love Sakura? You dont just suddenly change character mentality espcially for unintended reasons, sure kurama and sasuke changed mentalities but it was narutos devotion to his breatherin the tailed beasts that was the step to have kurama trust him. It was Itachis last words and Sasukes unsureness about his purpose of just revenge that caused him to talk to hashirama and choose to side with the village, yet that whole purpose is more of an enemy of my enemy type deal as we have seen sasuke intends to change the system but for all the wrong reasons. But still, why, and just why should Sasuke love Sakura? its so out of place, it just seems so wrong more than anything considering he still didnt even apologize for attempting to kill sakura, thats even harder for me to look at SS as a real pairing, he took a small moment to say sorry to karin but not sakura despite having the short time open to do so?

 

I seriously think some pairing fans are too blind under the hinata hyped glamor to think rationally, depending on stuff so small with many obstacles and plot holes (SS faces the issue of 635, NH has that 631 issue of Naruto still loving sakura and the Sakura Kushina deal). Really, I dont even know how to look at those anymore, even tightwads like Swayer7mage go on thinking sakura would die. Guess it makes sense when people follow a big fan of a pairing, many are going to be lost and rage at moments like 631.

[Phantom_999]

No I'm not saying that SS will become canon, I'm saying that there is some potential conflict of feelings here. WHICH fans can think of potential SS ship Tease or use as an excuse to trash Talk Sakura again. If say for instance Sakura hesitates about whether to save Naruto or Sasuke first then fans could say tha she does not love Naruto. However this could work against them too Because Sakura is not so sure of herself to save Sasuke either. Point is that my worry not about SS but about Sakura being unsure about what to do at the moment which will promote more bashing for her. As much as I know that not not happen likely if not at all if Sakura becomes emotional again regarding Naruto and Sasuke it will be another self justification for fans to bash her again. Now will it change my own opinion of Sakura? No, but I will be annoyed at those that insult and take shots at her because I do love Sakura's character

Edited by Phantom_999, 16 January 2014 - 11:31 PM.

[Nostradamus]

 

Paranoia mostly.

 

And other fanbases claiming their stuff. I always find it funny how again that red herrings only exist in the NS camp of moments, but all NH or SS moments are legit full blown moments. -sigh-

Of course the NH and SS moments are legit and the NS moments are just red herrings. What are you blind? It's so obvious that NH and SS will prevail because the princess Hinata loves Naruto so much and oh we also have that girl what's her name Sakura something and her love for Sasuke is so deep, she even tried to kill him I mean that's the true form of love.

I'm sorry I just couldn't help myself. To be honest the NH and SS fanbase annoy me a lot not because they like NH/SS but because the way they think. For example I exaggerated with what I wrote above but the truth is some fans actually believe these things. They believe Hinata's love for Naruto is so strong it cannot be denied, so NH must and will happen. They believe Sakura's love for Sasuke is unchangeable therefore SS must and will happen.

Now why some NS fans believe a SS moment is coming is understandable. After 615 a lot of NS fans where "jumping ship" so to say. And now we have Sasuke "dead" so some believe Sakura will rush over and choose to save Sasuke over Naruto. It's the ultimate decision, who is Sakura going to save? Personally I already know Sakura will heal Naruto so I'm not worried at all.

 

 

 

@LuckyChi7  I know man. The thing is most people ignore those moments and disregard them immediately. They don't want to acknowledge that Sakura has changed, she grow up she isn't Sasuke's fangirl anymore. She still has feelings for Sasuke, just like Naruto does. But she isn't part 1 Sakura anymore, she evolved. And people need to understand that but sadly some of them don't.

Edited by Nostradamus, 16 January 2014 - 11:22 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I just want to say this right now for a certain theory kicking around. If the theory that Sasuke is going to get the Rinnegan is true, then you might as well give Sakura slug sage mode. Logic and development is thrown out the window when it comes to Sasuke and if Kishi is going to mess this up that badly, then might well go full throttle.

Enough of this "Well we have to see them train for it" when Sasuke is just the master of all jutsu regardless of training.

I can also think of several ways Sakura can gain slug sage mode without going through the same training Naruto did and it still would make more sense than Sasuke gaining the rinnegan at this point.

Well there's quite of estabilishment for Sasuke to get rinnegan because of a lot of factors but being honest with you, due to the recent events it's more likely for Sasuke to get slug sage mode which is funny as hell.

And second when Hashirama said "come here i'm going to give a jutsu to you" i laughed a lot because that's the summary of Sasuke's life.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 16 January 2014 - 11:29 PM.

[Phantom_999]

Not the summary of his life though, mind you. Only post Itachi conflict was that true. Before that he damn well worked his for his power. So that (plus some "plot armour no jutsu" due to favortism) is what got him through the story until Itachi's death.