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[Liu bie]

It seems occurred some parallel or not, but still Naruto needs to hear some words from Sakura directly like the words of Rin for Obito in this chapter.

 

For next chapter may be will have Madara to interfere or simple Obito no choose to be a good guy and he will do something similar like he did after the battle with Kakashi.

[Phantom_999]

ikr. she's such a good person but people flame her character for 'leading him on'. 

 

So she has no "right" to encourage Obito while being in love with Kakashi?  BTW are there any NH fans among those that were saying that because I have a response to them then...... I 'll wait until there are actually any listed. In a sense I understand their mentality a little bit. But!!! Rin would only be "leading Obito on" if she knew of his feelings for her and still acted like that. Was that the case, I ask? 

Edited by Phantom_999, 30 October 2013 - 03:26 AM.

[DattebayoXShannaro]

I found it really interesting that the touching scene with Obito and Rin was on a bench similar to the bench scene from Ch. 3 with Naruto and Sakura, The context of both scenes are very similar, too. Just look at the visuals:

 

                                

           

 

                 

 

(I apologize for the long post) 

 

Only the genders are reversed in some cases particularly the blushing.

[narusakuforlife1667]

How about we all ignore the Naruhina word Im pretty confident on Narusaku now with everythings that's going on especially with this chapter

[咲耶姫]

How about we all ignore the Naruhina word Im pretty confident on Narusaku now with everythings that's going on especially with this chapter

 

I agree. Most of the NH fans I saw in France are accepting that OR is a NS parallel and not NH. SOme of them even accept the fact that if Kishimoto confirms the parallel, it means that NS is the end game. 

 

They are certainly just affraid of what is incoming. Look, they are constantly contradicting themselves. Some says parallel doesn't count, other says OR is NH parallel, some says Rin is like Hinata (because of "be by your side"), other says she's a whore...

 

Should we really waste our time with that?

[morgaine4]

I'll try to avoid talking about NH, but to be frank I'm more anti-NH than I am pro-NS so it might be difficult (don't get me wrong, I've come to enjoy NS and have always thought NS was inevitable BUT I have been actively anti-NH for a long, long time...much longer than I've been actively pro-NS).

[咲耶姫]

Do you think Obito will accept Naruto's offer next chapter, or that he will stay evil a little longer?

[arian_rad]

I'll try to avoid talking about NH, but to be frank I'm more anti-NH than I am pro-NS so it might be difficult (don't get me wrong, I've come to enjoy NS and have always thought NS was inevitable BUT I have been actively anti-NH for a long, long time...much longer than I've been actively pro-NS).

Frankly, I know how you feel. I was anti-naruhina before I quit naruto for like a year and I came back to it about a year ago and just read the manga and it made me realize narusaku is inevitable. It's just some naruhina fans tend to get under our skin and irritate us because to them, nothing is important or matters at all when it is pro-NS or the fact that the parallels actually fit our pairing and it's called parallol's. However, when they see one line they recognize (stay by my side) they flip kitten and yell that they have a parallel and that it's legit kitten even though hinata has never and will never be paralleld to anyone because all the major parallels in this story lie around team 7. Only one outside of team 7 who has been paralled to someone has been shikamaru who paralled himself to tobirama.

[TouKen4Life3g]

"Did you miss me?" -M. Chief

 

Sadly, I couldn't find a sound clip. But anyway, what a day that I was out. That said what's the topic here? I know it's the chapter thread but specifically what are we talking about?

[咲耶姫]

"Did you miss me?" -M. Chief

 

Sadly, I couldn't find a sound clip. But anyway, what a day that I was out. That said what's the topic here? I know it's the chapter thread but specifically what are we talking about?

 

It's the same topic since this thread was opened: NH and thei desperate theory. 

There is too much NH, so I prefer wondering if Obito will accept Naruto's offer next chapter?

[shadow_Uzumaki]

"Did you miss me?" -M. Chief

 

Sadly, I couldn't find a sound clip. But anyway, what a day that I was out. That said what's the topic here? I know it's the chapter thread but specifically what are we talking about?

It's the same topic that always degenerates into for every chapter thread lately.

[TouKen4Life3g]

 

It's the same topic since this thread was opened: NH and thei desperate theory. 

There is too much NH, so I prefer wondering if Obito will accept Naruto's offer next chapter?

My answer to NH and theory is: eh.

 

Honestly, I got nothing to say but good luck with that. I don't even know where they even got that. I think at this point I quit on debating because clearly this is their final struggle to see if Naruto ever capitalized NH, which the chapter is not even about that. I mean where is it, huh? Where? I can't freaking find it. So I quit. Though I will return if something bs come in my way. But you know what, one last/final chance. If it doesn't happen, I would feel like I just got spelled on that whenever a random theory comes to me in pairing wise that is more to fanfic approach, I will be like, "the what now?" That's my only response. I am calling it here.

 

But now, to the actual legit topic, I can't really answer you there because I want the manga to take me this ride. I won't open my mouth for anything. I will just wait for a week. Period. Sorry.

[arian_rad]

 
It's the same topic since this thread was opened: NH and thei desperate theory. 
There is too much NH, so I prefer wondering if Obito will accept Naruto's offer next chapter?

You know, so many people didn't think Naruto's attack would land but I did, so I'm going to be the odd man out again and say obito will accept Naruto's hand. My prediction is he will help the shinobi alliance defeat madara in near future especially if chatte's crack theory about Rin's death actually happens.

[TouKen4Life3g]

You know, so many people didn't think Naruto's attack would land but I did, so I'm going to be the odd man out again and say obito will accept Naruto's hand. My prediction is he will help the shinobi alliance defeat madara in near future especially if chatte's crack theory about Rin's death actually happens.

I'm not going to say anything from here on out. That said can you link me to that theory?

[arian_rad]

I'm not going to say anything from here on out. That said can you link me to that theory?

I'm on my phone so finding a link is basically impossible on the tumblr app. However, I can summarize it for you. Chatte came up with a crack theory that madara was in fact the person to plan for Rin to become a jinchuriki and he was also behind her death. Madara knew how much obito wanted to protect Rin so by going after that one target, he was able to convince obito to help him with internal tsukuyomi. If obito does find out that madara was behind it all, and if it does happen, I have no doubt he will help the alliance.

Edited by arian_rad, 30 October 2013 - 05:31 AM.

[dejavu]

to be honest, i love to see some NaruSaku - im so waiting for it.

but why is Naruto not thinking of Sakura in the last chapters? i understand that they are in a war right now and the least that he should do is worry about his love life.. but when he saw Obito's flashbacks, although he admitted they are the same, he's only thinking of how they're childhood was like and that they have the same dream... Naruto isn't stupid, he definitely understood what Rin is to Obito, but that still didn't trigger him to think of Sakura.. even with the latest chapters when the focus is with ObiRin, there's no indication from Naruto that he understood him because he has someone in his heart too... if Naruto is only doing TnJ about dreams and comrades, if he wont touch the subject (love interest) which is basically why the guy gone insane, is the last talk enough to bring Obito back to the good side? any ideas?

 

being able to read the manga this far.. all i could say is that..

It might not be like he isn't mentioning Sakura or the romance aspect but rather Kishi isn't just showing it to us.

 

may it be to keep the final pairing a suspense or it could be to compile the suspense and made a BANG out of it for saving it to the last part of TNJ.

 

how many times was romance cut out in a time it should be addressed??

Kushina's last words to baby Naruto.. why did he not mention the last part about the girl and romance???

after coming back from the flashback.. he mentioned not being good in class, having friends, the 3 shinobi vices Jiraiya embodies, etc.

even in the RTN movie it was omitted.

 

and now again, with Obito and Rin its obvious Naruto should think of Sakura right?

but why is it not being shown?

It smells rather fishy if you ask me.

 

I think we are about see the biggest confession of this manga

 

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anyhow, I’m quite disappointed with myself.

why did i have to check threads from NF?

bad bad bad move.

 

 

if push comes to push...

 

Rin and Obito had no more chance of getting together simply because she died.

She died loving someone else (Kakashi)

Obito wasn’t able to confess as he said when he was about to “die”

Obito was not able to become a Hokage that Rin is giving all her support with.

 

What does it do to NS?

What’s the hero of this anime gonna do about it?

repeat the same shizz!?

 

of course he won’t let down the people who supports him.. specially that one person!

Sakura! HINATA! the one who was ALWAYS there for him and give him some manly squeeze on the hand and some moe chakra to the cheek.

 

Who gives an apple that Naruto coincidentally was shown in a flashback before the team 7’s 2nd reunion to actually THINK about confessing to Sakura??? thats some old shizz that will surely CHANGE by now since our manly hero changes his goals and mind as a past time.

 

that's why i hope some people would stop making us look like we are desperate to draw in the parallel with ObiRin.

its like digging their own grave.

 

of course aside from the OBVIOUS similarities to the two team setup, there are still differences (understandably because they are different people).

 

those difference are actually a PRO to NaruSaku.

-Kakashi unlike Sasuke came from being the trash who abandons his comrades to a full blown yummy hero.

-Sasuke on the other hand started to be the hero who would risk his life just because he "doesn't want someone precious to him die AGAIN" such a sweet boy he was but then he is now the trash in the ugh.. can.

-Obito and Rin "died" they were not able to grow together anymore so nothing could've change.

Rin died loving Kakashi. Obito not being able to confess his feelings.

it is a DEAD END to ObiRin

if maybe they were able to live and Obito was able to protect and confess to Rin

something could've change.. maybe yes maybe no..

 

but what made NaruSaku different?

They were able to develop long AFTER than ObiRin could.

Naruto is gonna live and survive to confess to Sakura before its too late.

and MAYBE, just maybe it is that "thing" we are waiting for to change Sakura's feelings completely.

I may support NS but i will not throw away facts. Sakura as far as we know carries some romantikku feelings for the Sauce.

but a manly confession from Nardo himself MIGHT change the setup once and for all.

 

afterall he is the hokage who would make a path out of a DEAD END

 

 

Kidding aside... this chapter as we know is the start of some yummy TNJ by our hero.

Reading it again made me want Naruto to confess to Sakura even more. afterall ObiRin is having the spotlight..

 

I wonder if Naruto would include him not being able to admit his feelings towards Sakura in his TNJ?? like saying he learned or realized something from talking and seeing Obito’s memories. how similar they were..

 

The closest thing he got in common with him in regards to death is Jiraiya and Neji but those two even how special to Naruto could not fit in or amount to Rin’s death.

 

Killing Sakura isn’t necessary to draw it all in a circle. a heartfelt realization on Naruto’s part of not wanting to disappoint that person who trusted and supported him might be something more meaningful than a dramatic killing..

 

 

Just imagining this

 

"I'm watching over you now, you can't hide anything"

 

Naruto: that is why i won’t hide anything anymore too. so don’t hide the real Uchiha Obito.

 

c'mon Kishi! no to regrets! and no to shortcuts!

Edited by hello panda, 30 October 2013 - 05:42 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I'm on my phone so finding a link is basically impossible on the tumblr app. However, I can summarize it for you. Chatte came up with a crack theory that madara was in fact the person to plan for Rin to become a jinchuriki and he was also behind her death. Madara knew how much obito wanted to protect Rin so by going after that one target, he was able to convince obito to help him with internal tsukuyomi. If obito does find out that madara was behind it all, and if it does happen, I have no doubt he will help the alliance.

Hm, sounds likely. I am beginning to wonder if the plan fails, Madara would just say "You know what. kitten it. I'm killing all of you." It would be cool, but we'll see where it goes. I do wonder how strong would he be without the other bijuus? Or he will go back to normal Obito? I do wonder. Anyway, we'll see.

 

Right now, I am just going to wait for next week. Right now, I'm beginning to feel like I want to post such a post that will make me a stronger enemy to bash on than Xbox One, but eh, I am better than that.

[咲耶姫]

My answer to NH and theory is: eh.

 

Honestly, I got nothing to say but good luck with that. I don't even know where they even got that. I think at this point I quit on debating because clearly this is their final struggle to see if Naruto ever capitalized NH, which the chapter is not even about that. I mean where is it, huh? Where? I can't freaking find it. So I quit. Though I will return if something bs come in my way. But you know what, one last/final chance. If it doesn't happen, I would feel like I just got spelled on that whenever a random theory comes to me in pairing wise that is more to fanfic approach, I will be like, "the what now?" That's my only response. I am calling it here.

 

But now, to the actual legit topic, I can't really answer you there because I want the manga to take me this ride. I won't open my mouth for anything. I will just wait for a week. Period. Sorry.

 

I so agree with you here, it's not wotrh to talk about. They are just doing the exact same thing they did with MinaKushi. It's just ridiculous. 

But we have not a lot of materials to talk about in this chapter, it's just another Obito/Naruto parallel. And we already knew about the Rin flashback, that she was supporting Obito's dream and that Obito was in love with her. 

But for Obito's response to Naruto, I think it's important, because it can lead this war to a new level. If he accepts, Obito won't be the main villain of this war aymore, it will be Madara (or Sasuke, but it's less likely). While if he refuses, things will remain the same and it will begins to get on my nerves. It's been a while since this war advance. 

 

 

 

[morgaine4]

Frankly, I know how you feel. I was anti-naruhina before I quit naruto for like a year and I came back to it about a year ago and just read the manga and it made me realize narusaku is inevitable. It's just some naruhina fans tend to get under our skin and irritate us because to them, nothing is important or matters at all when it is pro-NS or the fact that the parallels actually fit our pairing and it's called parallol's. However, when they see one line they recognize (stay by my side) they flip kitten and yell that they have a parallel and that it's legit kitten even though hinata has never and will never be paralleld to anyone because all the major parallels in this story lie around team 7. Only one outside of team 7 who has been paralled to someone has been shikamaru who paralled himself to tobirama.

 

I totally understand and agree with the grievances with the NH fandom, but honestly the main reasons I'm so anti-NH is because of them, of how I feel their relationship would play out.  First of all, I find them completely incompatible.  I can see them as friends (eventually), but as romantic partners, as lovers who raise a family together?  Not at all, and I've felt that way since part one.  Naruto is loud and boisterous, Hinata is shy to a fault; Hinata enjoys Naruto's personality, she finds it inspirational but how would she feel if the attention Naruto garnered when being loud was also directed towards her?  I don't think she would like that, it would make her uncomfortable and when trying to maintain a relationship with her Naruto might realize that these things bother her which could result in his attempts to change his persona, which would result in his becoming extremely uncomfortable as well.  IMO I just couldn't see this relationship working out unless both characters (or at least one of them) acted completely and totally OOC.  This is even different from my view on a potential romantic relationship between Sasuke and Sakura.  Don't get me wrong, I don't like the pairing, but I actually think that with slight tweaks these two could have been compatible --had Sakura not acted OOC around Sasuke (had she been her inner self around him), had Sasuke been able to let go of his hatred.  Now, as it stand I don't think they can work out, but I don't think that SS would need changes as drastic as NH would.  The other reason I'm opposed to NH is because I don't think Hinata is ready for a relationship.  I don't think someone who is as dependent upon another person (and someone she barely knows) is ready for a relationship, I don't think think it's healthy for someone to place so much of her self-worth on another person (I'm also opposed to Sasuke and Sakura for this reason), I don't think it's healthy for someone who seems to have no sense of self and no sense of self worth to be in a relationship.  I don't think Hinata belongs in a romantic relationship with anyone, and it's not because I dislike her (I do dislike her, but I'm not actually "anti-Hinata)...at least not yet, not until she realizes that she has the potential to be great herself, until she realizes that she can rely on her own power, until she realizes that there are people other than herself who matter --like the branch families that are a part of her clan (I'd say other than herself and Naruto, but I don't think Naruto matters much to her, rather I feel that gaining Naruto's acknowledgment matters to her and that's different).

 

Anyway, now that I've gotten that out of my system, out of respect I'm going to try much harder not to be anti-NH and I apologize for that rant, but I felt it was needed in this thread.

 

Now, about whether Obito will take Naruto's hand or not, I have no idea but I hope so.  I just want this war to be over already!

[TouKen4Life3g]

@Hello Panda: For the record, I thought it was good that Naruto didn't say "I found a girl similar to you, mom." That's the parents' job to determine that. Naruto finding Sakura in his life should be as normal as it can get. So, that part was saved for Minato to be the judge and well, your answer came. So, that I would allow it. To be honest, it could be the same for Obito as maybe just maybe he will be the one to say it. Naruto and Sakura don't really need to know. That's the audience's job.