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#241 Don-kun

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 03:23 PM

Before I keep reading anymore post I just want to say this.

 

1- Like everyone else mention Sakura is crying out of joy.

 

2- Sai's referring to Sasuke's declaration of wanting to be Hokage so he ask Jugo if he also hear what Sasuke said and what he thought about it, Sai was not talking about Sasuke born Sasuke and Naruto are not that close to the Rookies for them to hear that.

 

3- Sasuke really have something in mind the question is what?

Just the fact that he told the good guys that he doesn't care what anyone else thinks about him is all I need to accept that a fight between him and Naruto will happen in the end.

 

4- Sakura could be thinking about Sai's and Jugo conversation or she could be thinking about Tsunade's condition since after her panel we have Orochiaru arriving to Tsunade's location.


Edited by Don-kun, 12 June 2013 - 03:25 PM.


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Posted 12 June 2013 - 03:33 PM

 

Do you think narusaku is only possible if Sasuke stayed evil? >_>

No, that's not the case at all. NS has too much. It doesn't rely only on Sasuke.

 

Concerning him in NS, he's indirectly involved in this.


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Posted 12 June 2013 - 03:36 PM

So between Sasuke’s expression and Juugo and Sai’s explanation, I’m pretty sure that this chapter confirmed that Sasuke hasn’t really turned good.

 

Tsunade definitely still seems to be alive, given from what Katsuyu and Orochimaru said, though she certainly sounds to be on the brink.  Whatever it is they’re planning with her, I highly doubt it’s to force her to name Sasuke her successor.  First off, I think Tsunade would rather die than name Sasuke her successor, especially when she already seemed resigned to dying before, and she has a whole slew of people she trusts to take over where she left off.  Secondly, the Jounins also have to approve before a new Hokage becomes official – it’s not just on the previous Hokage’s say alone.  So even if they did manage to somehow force her to name Sasuke her successor, it wouldn’t really be worth much.  Sasuke would end up having to take the title by force in the end regardless.

 

The fact that Karin accompanied that group could suggest that Orochimaru is planning to have Karin heal her, but as another poster previously pointed out, Tsunade screwed him over and caused him an enormous amount of pain before by not healing his arms.  What benefit could he possibly get from healing her?    It will be really interesting to see what happens with that.

 

Sakura’s initial tears are definitely related to Naruto and Sasuke, seemingly out of finally seeing them being a team again given the context and preceding panels.  Her final expression on the last page seems to suggest that Sakura will be facing down Sasuke once again, and this time, hopefully with Naruto. 

 

And yes, Kishi yes, I want a neo-Sannin battle!  It’s funny, the prelude to that battle already sort of happened.   That fight began with Tsunade getting Jiraiya out of the way and facing Orochimaru on her own initially.  That failed, since he took advantage of her emotional weakness.  Recall that at the summit, Sakura likewise tried to ensure that Naruto wouldn’t be involved in her battle against Sasuke.  She went to face Sasuke alone initially, and failed because of her emotional weakness.  Now Sakura seems to have overcome that emotional weakness, just as Tsunade was able to overcome hers.

 

I would love to see a Sakura and Naruto versus Sasuke, especially given what Kakashi implied about their teamwork early on in the second bell test.  We’ve seen Naruto and Sasuke work together, now I want to see Naruto and Sakura bring down Sasuke together as well!

 

As for Sakura’s role in this chapter, I wasn’t all that disappointed.  Sure, I would have loved for her action to continue, but the soldiers really needed to be healed.   It put Sakura’s abilities in the spotlight again in her being able to do something like that so young.  It may not have been offensive, but given the fact that she healed pretty much the entire alliance in one move, it’s damn impressive nonetheless.  Note also that Naruto wouldn’t be “killing the Juubi and saving the world,” with Sasuke if it weren’t for Sakura healing him – she is an essential component for her healing ability.  The fact that she has such impressive offensive feats as well (and they are impressive, considering her one punch killed more Juubi clones than the rookies combined) just makes her that much more amazing.

 

Plus, I’m pretty certain she’s going to get some more action later on, whether it be against an Edo-Tsunade or against Sasuke himself, so I’m okay with waiting for that, especially since Kishi seems to have really ramped up the speed that events are occurring.

 

As for the Juubi, no way is it defeated already.  We haven’t even gotten to see its final state (which I’m pretty sure we’ll see after all the hype its been given).

:cry: Damn I miss reading these, it's being such a long time since I've such a joy reading a wall text.  Thanks for the good read. :D



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 03:39 PM

Cheesus feta christ, all this build up making me nervous, I felt like having diarrhea just by looking at Sasuke's "burn it down" face. Why can't that boy just not have ulterior motives these days.

 

Naruto looks so happy and he really wants to help Sasuke...

 

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 03:42 PM

Cheesus feta christ, all this build up making me nervous, I felt like having diarrhea just by looking at Sasuke's "burn it down" face. Why can't that boy just not have ulterior motives these days.

 

Naruto looks so happy and he really wants to help Sasuke...

 

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Isn't he ? I really don't want to see his face when Sasuke reveals what he's doing. He's going to be angry, but sadness will be shown. Same goes for Sakura.



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 03:47 PM

The fact that Karin accompanied that group could suggest that Orochimaru is planning to have Karin heal her.

 

I'm in the process of reading through this post, but I got to this point and wanted to respond. People have been saying that Karin is going to heal Tsunade, but Karin can't actually heal people, can she? I thought she just restores chakra...

 

I mean, biting her won't actually put Tsunade's pieces back together. Although she'll have her chakra restored, she'll still be split in two.



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 03:49 PM

Maybe Karin will reveal some new ability in healing the next chapter.



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 03:58 PM

 

I'm in the process of reading through this post, but I got to this point and wanted to respond. People have been saying that Karin is going to heal Tsunade, but Karin can't actually heal people, can she? I thought she just restores chakra...

 

I mean, biting her won't actually put Tsunade's pieces back together. Although she'll have her chakra restored, she'll still be split in two.

If Tsunade was to die it would be because she was too exhausted after using all her remaining chakra to save the other Kages, if Karin restore her chakra then she will be able to use Katsuyu the way Katsuyu was planing from the start.

 

I for one never thought Tsunade could never become one again, I always thought she would be too week to actually have Katsuyu heal her but if Karin gives er chakra that would no longer be the case. Just my two senses.



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 04:00 PM

Maybe Karin will reveal some new ability in healing the next chapter.

It's possible she'll help replenish the kages chakra, but that's totally dependent on what Orochimaru is doing here. I mean, if he plans on turning on Tsunade and co, why was there no hint at it? 

 

We're not even entirely sure if she's still split into. A nice chunk of time has passed since they fought Madara, so I think she's possibly working on putting herself back together, or she's nearly complete. Orochimaru will likely finish the rest. 


Edited by StriderC, 12 June 2013 - 04:01 PM.


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Posted 12 June 2013 - 04:01 PM

As always, Naruto wants to see the best in Sasuke. By the way, I loved everyone's GoT references lol.

I love Sasuke's "burn it down". This is the kind of Sasuke I like to see - someone who is always on the edge.

It's possible that Sakura overheard Sai's and Juugo's conversation. I wonder what's going on in her head. Although I also think its possible that her panel on the last page was connected to the panel with Orochi&friends.

 

I know they are just predictions but I still I don't understand the point of Sasuke killing Sakura. To have Sakura finally reach her true strength and then have Sasuke "kill" her seems strange to me. Even if she will be brought back to life, it doesn't seem like something even Naruto can forgive. Or having Sakura dead will release some sort of strength in Naruto...to me it looks like he finds his strength in saving Sasuke. I can see Sasuke having an intent to kill her for whatever reasons, but I doubt she will be easily killed at this point.

I see a three-way battle between them. Sakura is emotionally tied to both of them so I do not see her sitting out any longer.

 

As for Tsunade, I have a feeling she will survive...for the time being.


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Posted 12 June 2013 - 04:03 PM

What's the point of Orochimaru killing the Kages?

 

We already know he's evil. Konoha know he is evil. It's not like they'll be of much use anyway, given their current condition. Even if they are healed now, the 4 of them would win against him.

 

I think Orochimaru will help Tsunade and ask for something in return. Just don't ask me what.  :excited:


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Posted 12 June 2013 - 04:05 PM

If Tsunade was to die it would be because she was too exhausted after using all her remaining chakra to save the other Kages, if Karin restore her chakra then she will be able to use Katsuyu the way Katsuyu was planing from the start.

 

I for one never thought Tsunade could never become one again, I always thought she would be too week to actually have Katsuyu heal her but if Karin gives er chakra that would no longer be the case. Just my two senses.

That's also a good point. Although, it's also possible that she will die from her wounds before she is able to be healed. She is completely split in half after all. That's no flesh wound. :lol:



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 04:05 PM

Another awesome thing is that Sakura's getting sooooo much prominence this time around.

 

1. The possible issue with Tsunade. Whatever that may be.

2. Her feelings for Sasuke being resolved.

3. Feelings for Naruto.

4. Her role as a member of Team 7. 



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 04:10 PM

It's possible she'll help replenish the kages chakra, but that's totally dependent on what Orochimaru is doing here. I mean, if he plans on turning on Tsunade and co, why was there no hint at it? 

 

We're not even entirely sure if she's still split into. A nice chunk of time has passed since they fought Madara, so I think she's possibly working on putting herself back together, or she's nearly complete. Orochimaru will likely finish the rest. 

Orochimaru is there to have some talk with Tsunade. That's for sure. I think Karin and Suigetsu are with him cause he needs them to do something for the Kages. Karin probably helping Tsunade to be in good shape and Suigetsu, I don't know what to think but we'll see.

 

Orochimaru turning against Tsunade and co. won't bring advantage to him. He has his plan along Sasuke.


Edited by T XD, 12 June 2013 - 04:10 PM.


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Posted 12 June 2013 - 04:10 PM

I've just got a terrible feeling.... Remember the badass colour cover in chapter 616? The one with the trio in samurai clothes? Well, Sasuke was inside of the roll, coloured in purple and looks like his eyes are directed towards Sakura. Like he has something in the mind regarding her.

 

We know that the old toad Sage told to Naruto that she'll fight a boy with a great ocular powers. Could be that Sasuke will kill Sakura and Naruto will must to defeat him? Or just that Sasuke having the intention of being the Juubi's jinchuuriki?

I got the same feeling as well. 

 

Sakura's last panel was directly placed after the talk about Sasuke's real intentions. 

Why oh why would Kishi put a panel of Sakura there?

 

I don't think she's going to die, but I do think she is going to be involved in some plan regardless of whether she wants it or not. 

 

Also, Sakura is probably one of the biggest pain in Sasuke's plan. Sakura is the only character who has never really trusted Sasuke.

1. Academy fight of Naruto & Sasuke, Sakura went, "!" after Sasuke's face went dark. 

2. Forest of Death

3. Sakura is the only one who knew Sasuke would leave the village, while Kakashi and Naruto had faith in him

4. Sakura is the only one who decided to kill Sasuke first, while Naruto wanted to save him, and Kakashi was reluctant to kill him 

5. When Sasuke appeared, Sakura was not trusting him. "Why are you here?" 

 

If Sasuke wants to be Hokage, Sakura is most likely going to be in the way. She is never convinced or trusting of Sasuke's "good intentions". 


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Posted 12 June 2013 - 04:14 PM

You know what I want.

 

I want Suigetsu to get Jiraiya's DNA, and then Oro uses it to revive him :3

 

This way, Tsunade can finally get her feelings off her chest.


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Posted 12 June 2013 - 04:14 PM

Orochimaru is there to have some talk with Tsunade. That's for sure. I think Karin and Suigetsu are with him cause he needs them to do something for the Kages. Karin probably helping Tsunade to be in good shape and Suigetsu, I don't know what to think but we'll see.

 

Orochimaru turning against Tsunade and co. won't bring advantage to him. He has his plan along Sasuke.

That's precisely why I don't see him doing anything left field just yet since his goal currently rides with Sasuke. There was no mention that Sasuke had talked to him about turning on Konoha. I believe at some point, Orochimaru will reveal his true colors, but killing off the Kages would not be in his best interest in the slightest. Let's not forget about Hashirama here. He can sense chakra, so imagine if Orochimaru had done something to her. Surely, that'd get a reaction out of him. He's no idiot. Right now, I can't see him doing anything shady. Not just yet.

 

As far as the healing goes, I'm not entirely sure Karin is capable of such a thing. Remember what happened to Sasuke during his fight with Bee? Didn't he suffer a severe injury, and it was up to Juugo to heal him? I think Orochimaru may be able to do something for Tsunade out of the three if it comes down to healing/reassembling Tsunade. I can't understand why Suigetsu is there though. lol 



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 04:21 PM

That's precisely why I don't see him doing anything left field just yet since his goal currently rides with Sasuke. There was no mention that Sasuke had talked to him about turning on Konoha. I believe at some point, Orochimaru will reveal his true colors, but killing off the Kages would not be in his best interest in the slightest. Let's not forget about Hashirama here. He can sense chakra, so imagine if Orochimaru had done something to her. Surely, that'd get a reaction out of him. He's no idiot. Right now, I can't see him doing anything shady. Not just yet.

 

As far as the healing goes, I'm not entirely sure Karin is capable of such a thing. Remember what happened to Sasuke during his fight with Bee? Didn't he suffer a severe injury, and it was up to Juugo to heal him? I think Orochimaru may be able to do something for Tsunade out of the three if it comes down to healing/reassembling Tsunade. I can't understand why Suigetsu is there though. lol 

Maybe Suigetsu is there to use his water element for something... Orochimaru likes to be equipped always XD



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Posted 12 June 2013 - 04:23 PM

I got the same feeling as well. 

 

Sakura's last panel was directly placed after the talk about Sasuke's real intentions. 

Why oh why would Kishi put a panel of Sakura there?

 

I don't think she's going to die, but I do think she is going to be involved in some plan regardless of whether she wants it or not. 

 

Also, Sakura is probably one of the biggest pain in Sasuke's plan. Sakura is the only character who has never really trusted Sasuke.

1. Academy fight of Naruto & Sasuke, Sakura went, "!" after Sasuke's face went dark. 

2. Forest of Death

3. Sakura is the only one who knew Sasuke would leave the village, while Kakashi and Naruto had faith in him

4. Sakura is the only one who decided to kill Sasuke first, while Naruto wanted to save him, and Kakashi was reluctant to kill him 

5. When Sasuke appeared, Sakura was not trusting him. "Why are you here?" 

 

If Sasuke wants to be Hokage, Sakura is most likely going to be in the way. She is never convinced or trusting of Sasuke's "good intentions". 

Why are we the only fans who notice this? Sakura doubt Sasuke in many occasions and will even go against him if he goes against Naruto or bad mouth Naruto.

 

 

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Edited by Don-kun, 12 June 2013 - 04:28 PM.


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Posted 12 June 2013 - 04:24 PM

Maybe Suigetsu is there to use his water element for something... Orochimaru likes to be equipped always XD

 

Yeah, to get to the corpse of a certain white haired Sannin <3


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