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[StriderC]

I couldn't agree more about Kushina, then it will be like the movie, only 100%, no more pestering around by haters, canon. You know, perhaps we can learn how Minato chooses the right woman. I mean he must have some taste to go with Kushina, so perhaps he is good at it and note it just by looking at her.

You think they're not there? Why is that? I mean granted I expected Sasuke to make a grand entrance, but why you think they're not there yet? I mean if Minato can make it, why not others? Plus, I thought Tobirama got the same thing if not better. Lastly, wouldn't it be smart if Minato did it with all of them, not just himself? Man, all the answers will come next chapter.

LOL They'd continue to hate, and all that jazz. They'd also find a means to downgrade whatever happens if Kushina did get brought back. But, I don't think he'll delve into that. I do however wonder if Naruto will tell Minato that he met Kushina. Sakura would hear about all of this and who knows what she'd say if she did. ^^

Nah, I don't think they're there yet, and I actually sort of don't want them to be there yet either. It's wishful thinking on my part, but we'll see.

[bthug]

I really hate when characters are left in the dark, especially and I mean especially when its so crucial to development. So I really hate how Sakura is in the dark when it comes to Naruto, however shes been slowly learning some things, so I hope that she will learn about Naruto's family and what they did for the leaf.

[TouKen4Life3g]

LOL They'd continue to hate, and all that jazz. They'd also find a means to downgrade whatever happens if Kushina did get brought back. But, I don't think he'll delve into that. I do however wonder if Naruto will tell Minato that he met Kushina. Sakura would hear about all of this and who knows what she'd say if she did. ^^

Nah, I don't think they're there yet, and I actually sort of don't want them to be there yet either. It's wishful thinking on my part, but we'll see.

Well how about this? Them being occupied with Madara. At least the interaction with Sasuke and others may or may not happen at all. I would have prefer this but that's just me.

I really hate when characters are left in the dark, especially and I mean especially when its so crucial to development. So I really hate how Sakura is in the dark when it comes to Naruto, however shes been slowly learning some things, so I hope that she will learn about Naruto's family and what they did for the leaf.

What do you mean?

[redragon88]

I want Edo-Kushina to appear so bad, but I know that it's almost impossible since there's no foreshadowing it of it.

Come on Kishi! Make a redo of Road to Ninja, you saw how popular it was. Make it be!!!

The family reunion should be complete, both parents should be there to see how much their son has grown. Why Kishi? Don't just make it half way!

To be honest, when Minato said he would bring a gift Kushina was the first thing that appeared in my mind, I guess Road to Ninja had a very big impact on me.

[Inferno180]

Hey if anything this past chapter proved how close she is to naruto and understands him. Her role is not done yet either, she should have something important interaction still to come with naruto.

I just think for naruto, maybe he will act as a bridge for both sakura and minato. We knew naruto and minato would meet, but never sakura and minato. That is an interaction which could happen.

The other kage and taka coming, that remains up in the air until next chapter. Maybe minato came ahead, maybe the others are going to come right away.

All we know is there is a great potential for a ns next chapter just by the set up. Though other things can still happen like always too.

I just feel that things are looking good for ns, and when sasuke comes back, it would be a bigger moment like the end of a chapter as I said before. Plus not fully worried, given what Sasuke did last time, sakura would definately take caution against him at first. But 630 still proves again, she knows naruto well, better then she knows Sasuke no doubt. Sakura is not full Sasuke mode all the time, she is mostly naruto, and it's proven, she does care for him a lot, and it's possible she does like him as something more than a friend.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I want Edo-Kushina to appear so bad, but I know that it's almost impossible since there's no foreshadowing it of it.

Come on Kishi! Make a redo of Road to Ninja, you saw how popular it was. Make it be!!!

The family reunion should be complete, both parents should be there to see how much their son has grown. Why Kishi? Don't just make it half way!

To be honest, when Minato said he would bring a gift Kushina was the first thing that appeared in my mind, I guess Road to Ninja had a very big impact on me.

I don't blame you. I wonder what's Minato and Naruto are going to talk about. Yes, they're in war, but I'm sure they have room to speak. In fact, how long will they interact from this point on to whenever he disappears. Oh man, if he goes all fatherly, I can imagine how touched Sakura is going to be. Damn! The possibility is crazy.

[Jake]

I couldn't agree more about Kushina, then it will be like the movie, only 100%, no more pestering around by haters, canon. You know, perhaps we can learn how Minato chooses the right woman. I mean he must have some taste to go with Kushina, so perhaps he is good at it and note it just by looking at her.

I highly doubt that Kushina will be revived, because the only one who knows how to perform Edo Tensei is Orochimaru and if they had the means to preform one Edo Tensei (If I'm not mistaken there is still one more Zetsu) it would make much more sense if they used it, it would probably be someone who could actually make an impact on the battle (and if that happens I hope Kishi brings back Jiraiya)

About how Minato chose the right woman, I also highly doubt that, that will come up, and for the life of me I can't see why it would even need to come up aside from resolving shipping wars (which some will still claim that, that proves NH & SS ). Personally I think that Minato knew about Kushina like Naruto knows about Sakura, (it must run in the family)

You think they're not there? Why is that? I mean granted I expected Sasuke to make a grand entrance, but why you think they're not there yet? I mean if Minato can make it, why not others? Plus, I thought Tobirama got the same thing if not better. Lastly, wouldn't it be smart if Minato did it with all of them, not just himself? Man, all the answers will come next chapter.

In chapter 627 Tobirama said "we can't use the Hirashin, we're bound..." unfortunately Hashirama interrupted him before he could finish but we can assume that he was going to say that they we're bound by Edo Tensei but we know that Edo Tensei alone can not prevent them from using it altogether as evident by the fact that Minato was able to do it (unless he just threw the kunai out of habit and just used the Shunshin), but a possible explanation is that Minato's version superior to Tobirama due to the his kunai (don't ask my how that makes sense because I have no idea myself).

But it is also possible that Tobirama was going to say that they we're bound to Orochimaru and that they couldn't get to far from him and the battlefield was just out of that range, this is highly unlikely because Kabuto was able to control a small army covering a large area from a location that couldn't be too far from the Land of Iron as evident by the fact that Suigetsu and Jugo found that place no more then a day after breaking out of prison in said country

And as for how Minato could make it there before the others, when traveling in a group, the group is only as fast as it's slowest member and the group in question includes two middle-aged men in Samurai Armor, and another man in his late sixties, if Minato (who is known as one of the fastest shinobi to have ever lived even without hirashin) decided to go on ahead of the others it would make sense that he would get there a good amount of time ahead of them.

Edited by Jake, 18 May 2013 - 08:57 AM.

[soraandven]

i just can't wait for minato to meet sakura

[TouKen4Life3g]

I highly doubt that Kushina will be revived, because the only one who knows how to perform Edo Tensei is Orochimaru and if they had the means to preform one Edo Tensei (If I'm not mistaken there is still one more Zetsu) it would make much more sense if they used it, it would probably be someone who could actually make an impact on the battle (and if that happens I hope Kishi brings back Jiraiya)

About how Minato chose the right woman, I also highly doubt that, that will come up, and for the life of me I can't see why it would even need to come up aside from resolving shipping wars (which some will still claim that, that proves NH & SS ). Personally I think that Minato knew about Kushina like Naruto knows about Sakura, (it must run in the family)



In chapter 627 Tobirama said "we can't use the Hirashin, we're bound..." unfortunately Hashirama interrupted him before he could finish but we can assume that he was going to say that they we're bound by Edo Tensei but we know that Edo Tensei alone can not prevent them from using it altogether as evident by the fact that Minato was able to do it (unless he just threw the kunai out of habit and just used the Shunshin), but a possible explanation is that Minato's version superior to Tobirama due to the his kunai (don't ask my how that makes sense because I have no idea myself).

But it is also possible that Tobirama was going to say that they we're bound to Orochimaru and that they couldn't get to far from him and the battlefield was just out of that range, this is highly unlikely because Kabuto was able to control a small army covering a large area from a location that couldn't be too far from the Land of Iron as evident by the fact that Suigetsu and Jugo found that place no more then a day after breaking out of prison in said country

And as for how Minato could make it there before the others, when traveling in a group, the group is only as fast as it's slowest member and the group in question includes two middle-aged men in Samurai Armor, and another man in his late sixties, if Minato (who is known as one of the fastest shinobi to have ever lived even without hirashin) decided to go on ahead of the others it would make sense that he would get there a good amount of time ahead of them.

Well, I was only wishing for Kushina, but it is highly unlikely. It would have been great. Also, well again, it's only something that can shortcut to the pairing war end, but if it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen. I do wonder the interaction between father and son will go down as Sakura is there to listen. Not like they will whisper to each other. Anyway, well next chapter we can learn about everyone's location and such, so let's just wait and see on how everything goes down.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Well, I was only wishing for Kushina, but it is highly unlikely. It would have been great. Also, well again, it's only something that can shortcut to the pairing war end, but if it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen. I do wonder the interaction between father and son will go down as Sakura is there to listen. Not like they will whisper to each other. Anyway, well next chapter we can learn about everyone's location and such, so let's just wait and see on how everything goes down.

Didnt he already did that?
I think most of the guys here are wishing for that just for the NH/SS stop being in denial because he already did that, i dont see why the necessity of he saying that when there's no reason, Mina/Kushi and Naru/Saku is already settled although it wasnt a shortcut for it to end, the only thing that remains is how Sakura feelings for Sasuke stands, it's the only thing left if she doesnt love him anymore or shows hints that she's already over him then this is the shortcut for it to end definitively.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Didnt he already did that?
I think most of the guys here are wishing for that just for the NH/SS stop being in denial because he already did that, i dont see why the necessity of he saying that when there's no reason, Mina/Kushi and Naru/Saku is already settled although it wasnt a shortcut for it to end, the only thing that remains is how Sakura feelings for Sasuke stands, it's the only thing left if she doesnt love him anymore or shows hints that she's already over him then this is the shortcut for it to end definitively.

Well, as obvious it is to us, we need Minato (Kishi) to say it in order to end this parallel madness. Anyone can agree to disagree with me, but whether it happens in next chapter or not, Kushina being paralleled tells me game over, even if we don't know what is Sakura's current feeling with Sasuke. The reason for that is because saying that is like saying Tobi got the same eyes as Obito; meaning when you confirm one thing, you'll know the answer. Pretty much it will become how NS becomes canon, rather than if NS becomes canon. That's just how I see it. Same applies to ObiRin, though I just think MinaKushi is like capturing a high price property in a monopoly game. I know I should expect a huge downplay by haters but whatever.

[T XD]

I think that Minato will definitely have an interaction with Sakura, or he'll get to see Sakura and meet her. If we think about it, Sakura is best friend with Naruto, his teammate, an important person to him, his love, a mini of Kushina... From this, I think a Minato, Sakura and Naruto or a Minato and Sakura interaction will happen.
It's very probable, and if it didn't at all involve Sakura, well, I can understand why cause if Minato will interact with Sakura, he will at least say something like " Thank you for being by the side of my son " or " Thank you for taking care of my son ". These two statements said by a father to a specific girl especially to the heroine concerning the hero in a manga, and probably not able to say to another girl again, is very important and I think that it's something that no fan or a neutral reader can deny it... unless if some do for the known reasons.

Edited by T XD, 18 May 2013 - 12:43 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I think that Minato will definitely have an interaction with Sakura, or he'll get to see Sakura and meet her. If we think about it, Sakura is best friend with Naruto, his teammate, an important person to him, his love, a mini of Kushina... From this, I think a Minato, Sakura and Naruto or a Minato and Sakura interaction will happen.
It's very probable, and if it didn't at all involve Sakura, well, I can understand why cause if Minato will interact with Sakura, he will at least say something like " Thank you for being by the side of my son " or " Thank you for taking care of my son ". These two statements said by a father to a specific girl especially to the heroine concerning the hero in a manga, and probably not able to say to another girl again, is very important and I think that it's something that no fan or a neutral reader can deny it... unless if some do for the known reasons.

True. I only wish that they would meet each other in a different time, so we can have Naruto introducing and what not. Still, it can happen in here. It makes me remember a movie where the guy introduces the family to his love interest and the sign of approval was growing. I don't know if they will interact, but at the very least, Sakura will listen to what he would say to Naruto as well as Naruto. Seriously, how much stuff Sakura is going to learn about Naruto? I know they're in a team but something like this only ask for romance in the end.

[redragon88]

Well I'll be, I actually ended up seeing forneverworld's video about Sakura and I could understand a lot of his frustration regarding the direction that Kishi took her character.

He has some misconception about her hug to Naruto in 450, he thinks that she shouldn't have done it since Sakura had that realization beforehand about Hinata's feelings for Naruto, so he thinks she isn't being considerate about Hinata. But that's just him overthinking thanks to his preference of NH.

He also thinks that regardless of Sakura's good intentions on the confession that it wasn't all right to play with Naruto's emotions like that. I can understand why he would view it like that since to this day the confession is still confusing as all heck, and it doesn't help that no one addresses their emotions afterwards. But I think that if the confession was 100% false that Sakura at least would've already apologized to Naruto for pretending to love him. That fact that it was left ambiguous is very telling in my opinion.

As for the rest, he lets know his frustration regarding Sakura's feelings for Sasuke being intact at this point. He says that he can visualize Sakura having butterflies when Sasuke comes, but that he would prefer her to just punch him in the face and get over those feelings. He says that even Ino is getting over her feelings faster than Sakura so that makes Sakura feel underdeveloped in comparison.

He's still hoping that she can get a moment so that general opinion of her can improve.

Just wanted to let you guys know were he stands regarding Sakura as a whole. Even he believes that her feelings for Sasuke are a joke, so at least we can all find common ground on that.

[T XD]

True. I only wish that they would meet each other in a different time, so we can have Naruto introducing and what not. Still, it can happen in here. It makes me remember a movie where the guy introduces the family to his love interest and the sign of approval was growing. I don't know if they will interact, but at the very least, Sakura will listen to what he would say to Naruto as well as Naruto. Seriously, how much stuff Sakura is going to learn about Naruto? I know they're in a team but something like this only ask for romance in the end.

If Minato talked with Naruto while Sakura is healing him, then definitely this least will happen. But, the thing is, if Minato will engage directly into battle and by chance Sakura finished healing him before he talks with Naruto during the time she's healing, then this one is gone. Though, this can happen anytime in this battle if Sakura was beside Naruto, and Minato talked to him XD

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well I'll be, I actually ended up seeing forneverworld's video about Sakura and I could understand a lot of his frustration regarding the direction that Kishi took her character.

He has some misconception about her hug to Naruto in 450, he thinks that she shouldn't have done it since Sakura had that realization beforehand about Hinata's feelings for Naruto, so he thinks she isn't being considerate about Hinata. But that's just him overthinking thanks to his preference of NH.

He also thinks that regardless of Sakura's good intentions on the confession that it wasn't all right to play with Naruto's emotions like that. I can understand why he would view it like that since to this day the confession is still confusing as all heck, and it doesn't help that no one addresses their emotions afterwards. But I think that if the confession was 100% false that Sakura at least would've already apologized to Naruto for pretending to love him. That fact that it was left ambiguous is very telling in my opinion.

As for the rest, he lets know his frustration regarding Sakura's feelings for Sasuke being intact at this point. He says that he can visualize Sakura having butterflies when Sasuke comes, but that he would prefer her to just punch him in the face and get over those feelings. He says that even Ino is getting over her feelings faster than Sakura so that makes Sakura feel underdeveloped in comparison.

He's still hoping that she can get a moment so that general opinion of her can improve.

Just wanted to let you guys know were he stands regarding Sakura as a whole. Even he believes that her feelings for Sasuke are a joke, so at least we can all find common ground on that.

A couple of things, not arguing anyone, just wanting to point out my thoughts:

That's the thing about the hug scene. If Sakura is willing to push forward NH, she should have known to push her to greet Naruto and possibly hug him. That didn't happen. So why letting her know Hinata's feelings? Is it really because to show her concern in a negative way for her as if to say that she feels troubled? That seems to be the case. Kishi usually drops a hint or two for Sakura's confusing/hidden feelings around Naruto and I believe this is one. Again, if this purpose is to have her push NH, why it didn't happen and why even go for second base (hug)?

The confession, yeah I'm not touching that until we get something from Naruto/Sakura. It's definitely confusing and really, it's anyone's guess on how the whole thing went down.

Lastly, well Ino got helps from her dad because not only it was her last time talking to him, but also he gave her one last lesson and she took it. Sakura is really on her own to find that answer. Naruto is not aware of it and Sasuke won't do anything about it. She's on her own, so she has to come up with the answer, which is why it's taking a long time. So yeah, this manga is all about patience and while it's killing us to wait longer, it could be a huge payoff in the end.

[sushi.]

Well I'll be, I actually ended up seeing forneverworld's video about Sakura and I could understand a lot of his frustration regarding the direction that Kishi took her character.

He has some misconception about her hug to Naruto in 450, he thinks that she shouldn't have done it since Sakura had that realization beforehand about Hinata's feelings for Naruto, so he thinks she isn't being considerate about Hinata. But that's just him overthinking thanks to his preference of NH.

He also thinks that regardless of Sakura's good intentions on the confession that it wasn't all right to play with Naruto's emotions like that. I can understand why he would view it like that since to this day the confession is still confusing as all heck, and it doesn't help that no one addresses their emotions afterwards. But I think that if the confession was 100% false that Sakura at least would've already apologized to Naruto for pretending to love him. That fact that it was left ambiguous is very telling in my opinion.

As for the rest, he lets know his frustration regarding Sakura's feelings for Sasuke being intact at this point. He says that he can visualize Sakura having butterflies when Sasuke comes, but that he would prefer her to just punch him in the face and get over those feelings. He says that even Ino is getting over her feelings faster than Sakura so that makes Sakura feel underdeveloped in comparison.

He's still hoping that she can get a moment so that general opinion of her can improve.

Just wanted to let you guys know were he stands regarding Sakura as a whole. Even he believes that her feelings for Sasuke are a joke, so at least we can all find common ground on that.

This is what I wrote in the comment section;


I'm confused. I thought you wanted Sakura to get out of the way of your "NH time". lol.

She didn't play with Naruto's feelings, cuz.. playing is fun. She didn't have fun, she cried. She may have used his feelings, but playing is the wrong word.

Even with her Sasuke obsession, it's far better than Naruto's obsession with Sasuke. Sakura thinks about Sasuke the least. Naruto is willing to lay down his dreams for him, Sasuke only thinks about himself and Sakura just wants team 7 as a whole again.
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And about the hug scene..that's just Kishi's way of adding shipping drama. Sakura is not trying to steal Hinata's spotlight..

She won't jump into Sasuke's arms again. She may still have feelings for him, be she doesn't want him or those feelings. At least not as a boyfriend, she may want him as a teammate. I don't get why people have a problem with Sakura's feelings for Sasuke if they're cheering for Naruto to bring him back. It's a doublestandard.

[bthug]

@narusaku4life I mean how for a while she didnt know about the kyuubi, the akatuski, all which she now knows. Now ( i dont think) she knows Narutos parent, how awesome they were, and what they and naruto did to protect the leaf. I know/hope she will find everything out I just hate waiting lol, I want it to happen ASAP!

[TouKen4Life3g]

@narusaku4life I mean how for a while she didnt know about the kyuubi, the akatuski, all which she now knows. Now ( i dont think) she knows Narutos parent, how awesome they were, and what they and naruto did to protect the leaf. I know/hope she will find everything out I just hate waiting lol, I want it to happen ASAP!

Yeah, I understand. Still, she knows him the best out of everyone in the battlefield. I guess that's why it's hard to imagine for her not being together with Naruto. I mean man, now Minato is here, so where do we go with this? 5 days left.

Which remind me, exactly what can Minato do with the beast? I feel like he can play defense with teleporting its blast to somewhere else. I mean we don't know if he has a huge feat to display like Hashirama with that 1000 arms summon. I'm just wondering...

[redragon88]

@NaruSaku4Life3g

Yeah, I'm also aware that he just has a misconception about the hug in 450 because of how he feels regarding NaruHina. I just wanted to point out that he at the very least also wants her to shine in some way and that he also considers her feelings for Sasuke as detrimental to her character.

I think Sawyer might answer the same way regarding Sakura's feelings for Sasuke. It seems that the main reason anyone has a problem with Sakura is because she still retains those romantic feelings. That's part of the reason I'm actually hoping that she can get to interact with Sasuke in the upcoming chapters so that she can be further portrayed as wanting to overcome her feelings. Just like it recently happened with Ino's acceptance of the negative nature of what she feels for Sasuke. Let's hope Kishi sticks with that pattern.

So the question is: If even NH fans have an issue with Sakura loving Sasuke, then doesn't that mean that it becomes even more obvious that Kishi is aiming for his audience to feel that way? I sure hope so, I'll be damned if SS is portrayed as positive.

@sushi.

The reason so many have an issue with Sakura's feelings with Sasuke is because many have the misconception that she's still hopeful of being together with him romantically, at least after Team 7 is reunited, instead of viewing it as you do that Sakura wants to overcome her previous mentality of her childish feelings.

I think general opinion of Sakura would improve greatly if she showed a hint of just loving Sasuke in the same way Naruto does, as a bond of comradeship and not a romantic one.