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#241 Slextrem

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 04:11 PM

StriderC, I'm pretty bummed about not getting to see Naruto transfer Kurama's chakra to Sakura as well. That was the one thing that I was hoping Kishimoto would show, whether it was through a flashback or if it happened present-time. Oh well. I think the reason that he didn't show her getting Kurama's chakra has to do with 615. It was a big moment for NH fans, but then Kishimoto diluted the moment by having Naruto hold hands with everyone else. Maybe he didn't want to fan the flames by adding Sakura to the mix? Who knows.

I can't be disappointed about the various Sakura-related theories not coming true though. I feel like people were expecting way too much out of her, given that this arc involves everyone in the Naruto-verse, not just Team Seven, and not just Naruto and Sakura. It was literally impossible for her to be with the Kages, as she had no way to know that Tsunade needed help, nor a way to know her location, nor a way to get there quickly, nor a way to actually save her, nor a way to gain Tsunade's abilities and understand how to use them immediately and return to the battle in-time to fight with Naruto again. That's too much Sakura-focus in an arc that has no relation to her specifically.

As much as I liked the Kamui theory, expecting her to be the one to fight Tobi doesn't make sense either... Honestly, it's better this way. Kakashi is the one with the connection to Obito, not Sakura, so he should be the one to fight him. I'm really looking forward to it, actually!

This new theory about her stabilizing Naruto's chakra seems much more plausible than everything else we've been coming up with. At least it focuses on the abilities that she already possesses, rather than going off of the assumption that she's going to learn something new in such a small period of time with absolutely no opportunities to train. Plus, I think that will make for a really nice NaruSaku moment. Sakura assists Naruto in the final fight in her own way. It's not the size of what she does for him that counts. What's important is how she feels about him, and right now, she's worried about his health. smile.gif

Edited by Slextrem, 23 April 2013 - 04:14 PM.


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Posted 23 April 2013 - 04:11 PM

QUOTE (StrikerTheNoble @ Apr 23 2013, 11:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Your not suposed to love anything that happens in the manga. But is it neceseary to complain about it and ruin it for other people? Thats Sasuke logic. So yea. in a nutshell.


How does this ruin it for other people? Some of the people who aren't satisfied have their right not to be and given what's been written, for the most part, it's JUSTIFIED.

If you're allowing the negative comments to possibly weigh you down, then I wonder just how happy you are with this chapter. That's just like me not liking a chapter because I've seen that a NH fan didn't like the chapter. I don't expect everyone to enjoy what I enjoy and it doesn't effect how I feel about something but that's just me.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 04:11 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Apr 23 2013, 11:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also, have you seen this?We have a chapter with Sakura worrying about Naruto... SO a little small NS moment. And on a page, guess what it's written:



Heaven and Earth paranormality.

Heaven and Earth. When NS interaction was brought up and when Sasuke and Karin are about to arrive, which, funny enough, they're the new Heaven and Earth.

Coincidence much? Maybe, maybe not...


I'm not gonna really hope for much, since given Kishi's track record is terrible nowadays. But... the Tenchi (Heaven & Earth) Bridge incident does make you think.... well, we'll just wait and see for now.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 04:13 PM

So, here's a question for all of you:

Which focus you want to see first: Naruto (Sakura) or Kakashi?

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 04:14 PM

Kakashi. I'm about as interested in NS as a piece of coffee bean right now.

Edited by Codus N, 23 April 2013 - 04:14 PM.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 04:15 PM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Apr 23 2013, 11:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
StriderC, I'm pretty bummed about not getting to see Naruto transfer Kurama's chakra to Sakura as well. That was the one thing that I was hoping Kishimoto would show, whether it was through a flashback or if it happened present-time. Oh well. I think the reason that he didn't show her getting Kurama's chakra has to do with 615. It was a big moment for NH fans, but then Kishimoto diluted the moment by having Naruto hold hands with everyone else. Maybe he didn't want to fan the flames by adding Sakura to the mix? Who knows.

I can't be disappointed about the various Sakura-related theories not coming true though. I feel like people were expecting way too much out of her, given that this arc involves everyone in the Naruto-verse, not just Team Seven, and not just Naruto and Sakura. It was literally impossible for her to be with the Kages, as she had no way to know that Tsunade needed help, nor a way to know her location, nor a way to get there quickly, nor a way to actually save her, nor a way to gain Tsunade's abilities and understand how to use them immediately and return to the battle in-time to fight with Naruto again. That's too much Sakura-focus in an arc that has no relation to her specifically.

As much as I liked the Kamui theory, expecting her to be the one to fight Tobi doesn't make sense either... Honestly, it's better this way. Kakashi is the one with the connection to Obito, not Sakura, so he should be the one to fight him. I'm really looking forward to it, actually!

This new theory about her stabilizing Naruto's chakra seems much more plausible than everything else we've been coming up with. At least it focuses on the abilities that she already possesses, rather than going off of the assumption that she's going to learn something new in such a small period of time with absolute no opportunities to train. Plus, I think that will make for a really nice NaruSaku moment. Sakura assists Naruto in the final fight in her own way. It's not the size of what she does for him that counts. What's important is how she feels about him, and right now, she's worried about his health. smile.gif


LOL Well you make a very good point, but I just don't know when it comes to the transference of chakra... Meh, what's done is done I suppose. I guess we won't have the parallel between ObiRin and NaruSaku either in the coming chapters since Obito is gone now. haha

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 04:17 PM

QUOTE (StriderC @ Apr 23 2013, 12:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LOL Well you make a very good point, but I just don't know when it comes to the transference of chakra... Meh, what's done is done I suppose. I guess we won't have the parallel between ObiRin and NaruSaku either in the coming chapters since Obito is gone now. haha

It ain't over till it's over! I think that's from the 70s. laugh.gif

Anyway, I posted a question above. Anyone?

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 04:20 PM

She even got a classic Shannaro line in, it's been a while since we heard that. I was hoping for a Sakura moment but it is only the first chapter to the volume. Plus being a Kakashi fan, I'm physched for this fight between him and Obito. a_dance.gif

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 04:24 PM

QUOTE (Shadow1275 @ Apr 23 2013, 12:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She even got a classic Shannaro line in, it's been a while since we heard that. I was hoping for a Sakura moment but it is only the first chapter to the volume. Plus being a Kakashi fan, I'm physched for this fight between him and Obito. a_dance.gif

That's true. She usually says it when she is heavily motivated. I guess Naruto really connects to her. It reminds me of what Sai said in movie 3. Funny.

So, in the next chapter, which one you want to focus first: Naruto (Sakura) or Kakashi?

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 04:27 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Apr 23 2013, 12:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree, i dont know why but people on this forum are just complaining over complaining, iam just going back to the background again until things get better.
NF is sooo much calmer and positive.


Sure, well people just need to relax, we are may have a Sakura moment come up, she may do something soon and this chapter did show she is concerned and believes in him.

Oh and as for NF, not going to touch that with as far as luffy can stretch. That place is just a breeding ground for hate and insanity. People can be irrational with this but I love this chapter and the Sakura parts to let it ruin my belief.

Now as for other people complaining, party.gif I got popcorn time to enjoy the show.

I've said my point, things are still unchanged in the story and NS, we have epic battles coming, Sakura still to get her event. I'm with others on this now, its funny to see complaining when it can become funny.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 04:27 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Apr 23 2013, 06:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's true. She usually says it when she is heavily motivated. I guess Naruto really connects to her. It reminds me of what Sai said in movie 3. Funny.

So, in the next chapter, which one you want to focus first: Naruto (Sakura) or Kakashi?

Naruto and Sakura. I'm still holding on to the hope that they'll do something. Besides, I realized how much I've missed Sakura in this chapter. And before an epic moment, there's always a build up, like this time.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 04:27 PM

QUOTE (StriderC @ Apr 23 2013, 11:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
LOL Well you make a very good point, but I just don't know when it comes to the transference of chakra... Meh, what's done is done I suppose. I guess we won't have the parallel between ObiRin and NaruSaku either in the coming chapters since Obito is gone now. haha

I don't blame you at all for being disappointed about the chakra transfer happening off-panel. I'm pretty bummed about it too.

Looks like it, but after Naruto came back from Neji's sacrifice, that would have been redundant. He already learned the lesson that Obito missed, (i.e. that his friends and important people live on through him.) What would be the point in making Naruto go through that all over again by having Obito attack Sakura?

Now that I think about it, there is still a way to connect the two, though it's not like how any of us imagined. Obito is about to fight Kakashi, and there's no doubt that Kakashi knows how Naruto feels about Sakura, and there's also no doubt that Kakashi will eventually have to explain the difference between Obito and Naruto to Obito. Perhaps he will bring up Naruto's relationship with Sakura in comparison to Obito's relationship with Rin? It's possible... Though I'm not 100% confident in that happening. I feel like Kakashi is more likely to bring up Naruto's resolve to save Sasuke rather than Naruto's relationship with Sakura. Maybe he'll mention both.

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Edited by Slextrem, 23 April 2013 - 04:29 PM.


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Posted 23 April 2013 - 04:29 PM

QUOTE (StriderC @ Apr 23 2013, 06:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How does this ruin it for other people? Some of the people who aren't satisfied have their right not to be and given what's been written, for the most part, it's JUSTIFIED.

If you're allowing the negative comments to possibly weigh you down, then I wonder just how happy you are with this chapter. That's just like me not liking a chapter because I've seen that a NH fan didn't like the chapter. I don't expect everyone to enjoy what I enjoy and it doesn't effect how I feel about something but that's just me.


I`m perfectly happy with this chapter. You can not just start a volume full on. A little curve is always nice. How I feel about the complainers is best described by a Stargate reference. It`s like being at funeral for Daniel Jackson (for those of you who don`t know the guy dies every season but somehow survives). You know damm well he is alive but you are still sad.
At thats what this is. Even being at a pizza party eating the greatest pizza ever can be depressing if everyone is complaining about the pizza. IT BRINGS YOU DOWN. Simple as that.

EDIT:

Assuming that Kishi does not want to make NS cannon YET. After all thats happened in the 5 kage summit arc could you really show an on-panel NS touch, with emotions and avoid NS? Doing it off screen was simpler.

Edited by StrikerTheNoble, 23 April 2013 - 04:32 PM.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 04:30 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Apr 23 2013, 04:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's true. She usually says it when she is heavily motivated. I guess Naruto really connects to her. It reminds me of what Sai said in movie 3. Funny.

So, in the next chapter, which one you want to focus first: Naruto (Sakura) or Kakashi?

Kakashi.

Here's how I think it is going to play out:

Kakashi and Obito fight, which triggers Kakashi's explanation of why he killed Rin. But I also feel like Sakura is going to help Naruto in some way because out of all the ppl on the battlefield, She is the only one to notice that he is getting close to his limit. That might be a big NS moment, because she's not allowed to get that close to the front lines.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 04:30 PM

I think we will have them in parallel. Kakashi and the Ninja Alliance together with Naruto and Sakura.
Because that chakra transfer thing actually sounds really plausible.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 04:30 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Apr 23 2013, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So, here's a question for all of you:

Which focus you want to see first: Naruto (Sakura) or Kakashi?

Kakashi because there the plot go. After kakashi resolve and obito confidence shaken than narusaku to parallel with obirin

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 04:35 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Apr 23 2013, 04:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think we will have them in parallel. Kakashi and the Ninja Alliance together with Naruto and Sakura.
Because that chakra transfer thing actually sounds really plausible.

Yeah, I'm curious as to one thing.

If he showed everyone else's chakra transfer, why hide Sakura and Naruto's? Future flashback possibility? headscratch.gif

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 04:36 PM

QUOTE (StrikerTheNoble @ Apr 23 2013, 11:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I`m perfectly happy with this chapter. You can not just start a volume full on. A little curve is always nice. How I feel about the complainers is best described by a Stargate reference. It`s like being at funeral for Daniel Jackson (for those of you who don`t know the guy dies every season but somehow survives). You know damm well he is alive but you are still sad.
At thats what this is. Even being at a pizza party eating the greatest pizza ever can be depressing if everyone is complaining about the pizza. IT BRINGS YOU DOWN. Simple as that.

EDIT:

Assuming that Kishi does not want to make NS cannon YET. After all thats happened in the 5 kage summit arc could you really show an on-panel NS touch, with emotions and avoid NS? Doing it off screen was simpler.


Well then you could SIMPLY ignore the complaints, or SIMPLY not acknowledge them. kruemelmonsteryn0.gif Tis your call because if I'm not satisfied with something, I'm SIMPLY gonna voice why. You may not like what you see, but I really don't care. It's a discussion thread for a reason.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 04:37 PM

QUOTE (Shadow1275 @ Apr 23 2013, 04:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, I'm curious as to one thing.

If he showed everyone else's chakra transfer, why hide Sakura and Naruto's? Future flashback possibility? headscratch.gif

Well...what IF Naruto's gift will be the other Kyuubi chakra and she'll be the first to receive the complete version? fu.png
That would definitely top the previous one! biggrin.gif

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 04:39 PM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Apr 23 2013, 11:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't blame you at all for being disappointed about the chakra transfer happening off-panel. I'm pretty bummed about it too.

Looks like it, but after Naruto came back from Neji's sacrifice, that would have been redundant. He already learned the lesson that Obito missed, (i.e. that his friends and important people live on through him.) What would be the point in making Naruto go through that all over again by having Obito attack Sakura?

Now that I think about it, there is still a way to connect the two, though it's not like how any of us imagined. Obito is about to fight Kakashi, and there's no doubt that Kakashi knows how Naruto feels about Sakura, and there's also no doubt that Kakashi will eventually have to explain the difference between Obito and Naruto to Obito. Perhaps he will bring up Naruto's relationship with Sakura in comparison to Obito's relationship with Rin? It's possible... Though I'm not 100% confident in that happening. I feel like Kakashi is more likely to bring up Naruto's resolve to save Sasuke rather than Naruto's relationship with Sakura. Maybe he'll mention both.

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I could see that happening. I wasn't talking about Sakura getting attacked and injured by the way. I was thinking Kishi could pull it off another way, and yours works pretty well. I think that's gonna get referenced soon. Probably not now since it wouldn't fit with the NH moments that have been put out? LOL You see Kishi pretty much killed NS interaction so that they could work. I still find it odd that there's barely any interaction going on between the two. Hopefully that changes when Sakura heals Naruto or whatever.




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