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[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Yes, bully for them. I think that was more about Naruto's insecurities and inner demons about not confessing it or ever letting Sakura know. You can't really take account for Hinata's actions because of what Naruto does or does not do. I don't see anything wrong with a person confessing their love. Hinata was willing to confess out of honesty to the question of why when she had jumped in the pit. And it being a Shounen, that is why there is nonverbal communication. In which no words need to be said for there to be an understanding.

What is love without friendship? And Neji said this but not Hinata? I don't know what that means to me, since it wasn't said or thought by her.

First bolded : actually was the fact that he felt unworthy of her, he felt unworthy because of his innability to give the only thing that Sakura asked to him, while she did a lot of things for him on part 1.

Second bolded : she said she was selfish and knew she would not stand a chance there was not heroish, rather it was stubborn and didnt had any implications to Naruto other than giving some development to her because even her saying "I love you" didnt had the same impact on Naruto like the "NAruto does love you" on Sakura, Naruto didnt reacted to her confession, he didnt even thought about it, it was completely ignored and the parts that it should had been bought up again were not showed up implying that her confession wasnt important for Naruto, that it's not a part of him.

Third bolded : There's no indicative of romantic intentions from Naruto towards her, and you didnt said any implications of Why NH should happen and it's quality you just said about your "good" side and completely ignored, i expected more from a NH fan may perhaps my expectations were too high, when you said "Hinata was there for him" sounding like she was the most important friend to Naruto, putting her into a pedestal and ignoring all the downside and problems with her character talking about Neji and ignoring the fact that Lee's bond with Neji was stronger than her bond with Neji.

Your logic is the same as SS on part 1.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 27 March 2013 - 01:41 AM.

[sushi.]

Can you guys take the NH vs NS somewhere else? Confessions have really nothin' to do with this. It's a cover thread, not even in the NS section. O_O

[六道仙人]

Hey let's rather welcome this person. ~~

Sorry I don't want to welcome anymore these kind of person from my opposite taste.. I don't want remake anymore the same errors that I used to do years ago.. I just learned that if a person has a different point of view, well just leave him alone and go on you road.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Sorry I don't want to welcome anymore these kind of person from my opposite taste.. I don't want remake anymore the same errors that I used to do years ago.. I just learned that if a person has a different point of view, well just leave him alone and go on you road.

Yeah, because no matter what you say the other person will never acknowledge and never will because it's not a political debate it's something regarded to taste, if a person likes NH it's impossible to make reason, it's the same thing as i like chocolate and you like strawberry, i never would make you like chocolate and she never will make me like strawberry.
it will only lead to kittens.
This is the reason why i was against this thread because only attract NH fans to come here and start NH vs NS, and force rage, then start with people receiving warning and then ban.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 27 March 2013 - 01:48 AM.

[sushi.]

Yeah, because no matter what you say the other person will never acknowledge and never will because it's not a political debate it's something regarded to taste, if a person likes NH it's impossible to make reason, it's the same thing as i like chocolate and you like strawberry, i never would make you like chocolate and she never will make me like strawberry.

I feel like we've chased enough NH fans away. This is a NS site, but it should first of all be a Naruto site imo.

[CynMichi]

Oi. As I said before, I'm not gonna argue pairings with you; this thread isn't really for that, and I don't give enough of a damn to do so. My point still stands that those two characters holding hands is important, is implying something of a romantic nature, and isn't there just for marketing purposes; it's there because Kishi felt it was important enough as part of the plot that it needed to be a focus.

Agree to disagree but if you push the fact that its romance on others you are the one arguing pairings. I believe the cover is open to reader interpretation.

[六道仙人]

I feel like we've chased enough NH fans away. This is a NS site, but it should first of all be a Naruto site imo.

There're too much NH fans around the world and still they've a lot of places where they can have a great fun and enjoy (like NF, tumblr, YT, etc..). We NS fans are feeling like we're surrounded by almost of the world... is it really necessary to welcome them here to open some dangerous debates?

Edited by 六道仙人, 27 March 2013 - 01:54 AM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I feel like we've chased enough NH fans away. This is a NS site, but it should first of all be a Naruto site imo.

NF, MH, Dattebayo, i think a lot of people here if they wanted to join just another Naruto site would not be here, i joined this site to talk and chat with people who share the same shipping side which is NaruSaku, like i said too many times, there's no reason to debate NH vs NS, becuase we both are entitled to our own opinions i think that NH is dead and i have a lot of claims to back up, the other side will never acknowledged it and runs away from the debate like last line of the recent reply of moriarty.
this is the reason why NS/NH/SS debates are poitless and a waste of time because it's not a matter of who's better than who it's a matter of taste, there are people who like NaruIno and despite of having 0 chances of happening, still like the pairing and ships this.

28 users, 19 guests reading the topic, brace yourselves the kitten is coming.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 27 March 2013 - 01:57 AM.

[sushi.]

NF, MH, Dattebayo, i think a lot of people here if they wanted to join just another Naruto site would not be here, i joined this site to talk and chat with people who share the same shipping side which is NaruSaku, like i said too many times, there's no reason to debate NH vs NS, becuase we both are entitled to our own opinions i think that NH is dead and i have a lot of claims to back up, the other side will never acknowledged it and runs away from the debate like last line of the recent reply of moriarty.

Yet you just joined a shipping debate.

The mods have already clarified that we should never chase away a NH fan.

[六道仙人]

Yet you just joined a shipping debate.

The mods have already clarified that we should never chase away a NH fan.

well, it's because we're all good people... If we were themselves and go on a NH fanbase, well... just image what's kind of treatment they would reserve to us

[sushi.]

well, it's because we're all good people... If we were themselves and go on a NH fanbase, well... just image what's kind of treatment they would reserve to us

I do not think this person is one of them. None of his or her posts have been offensive yet.

[Moriarty]

Haha, sorry friend, but you're in some deep denial right there.

Nothing wrong with hoping. Denial: Noun
The action of declaring something to be untrue: "she shook her head in denial".
The refusal of something requested or desired.
If NaruSaku happens then it happens. I'm just leaning towards the other side. Nothing is canon till it happens.

The first one, just read chapter 3 and way other chapters including after Hinata's confession it's love and romantic thing.
Jiraiya died loving Tsunade and he still loved her forever, Obito loves Rin even she being dead,Tsunade loved Dan and all that those characters have in common is that they never had a reason to move on from their loved ones, the fact is the only characters who got reasons to move on from their love interests are Ino,Sakura and Karin, the reason why i dont believe about Naruto moving on is that he doesnt have a reason to move on at all, he sure loves Sakura and he knew she loved Sasuke way before and despite three years away from her when he came back he still loved her, if Sakura did something really bad to him like Sasuke did to Sakura then he would move on, making him move on from Sakura to Hinata just make seem that he's dull and his love was false.
Dont come with Sakura still loves Sasuke because it's not an excuse otherwise he would have move on ages ago.

Lol, no, that's a bunch of bullcr*p. It's sweet and romantic, but forever doesn't exist. Especially for people who will never feel it or have ever experienced it. You seem to be listing more on grieving characters and lost love. Clearly Obitos love for Rin is healthy. Clearly Jiraiya's love is an unfulfilled one. More regret than anything else. I think you should take a sociology class and reevaluate your definition of love. Just because you love someone doesn't mean much really. As I said, it's not about moving on. Things happen, feelings fade. And that is normal. If they don't someone is just in a loop of insanity and denial also obsession.

narusaku happen in the first place because naruto love sakura and not sakura love naruto. and i will say it's love when naruto want to always protect her both physically and mentally. just look at obito. he is another naruto clone who have the same love setting. and where we are now. and jiraiya the so called pervert who think that rejection from tsunade as a failure of his life.

just like narusaku3g said if we remind that naruto still love sakura than naruhina is gone.

That's not love. It really isn't. That is just a codependency from people who have low self-esteem. It's unhealthy, especially if the actions become unhealthy and obsessive. If it happens, I hope it's not because of that. And hell, I could say this about Hinata in her earlier days. But it has shown that she has grown and developed in a positive way.

Aw. You have a nice outlook on your OTP.
(at least, I assume NH is your OTP. )

I'm not going gaga for it. But I find it to be sweet.

It's nice to see someone happy on this forum, even if it's not a NaruSaku fan. Congratulations on the manga cover.

X) Should enjoy what you have. And really whatever happens will be good as long as the writing is good.

Hey, NH fan. You'll bring some action here. I'll just throw out my two cents now.
The last time Naruto's love for Sakura was emphasized was in her confession, which was not long ago in their universe. Don't underestimate her by calling her a childhood sweetheart. The people he holds closest to him are his earliest bonds, that is Iruka --> Team 7 --> K11 --> Villagers. That is always how they show up in Naruto's mind, he'll never let his bonds go because of his lonely childhood. Besides, He's already confirmed he is in love with Sakura to Sai, it will ruin his character if he goes back on his word imo. And how you'll describe NH is the way I see NS, I guess we're looking for the same in each our OTP.

btw, I've been forgetting the chapters lately. The only reason I remember them is because people are mentioning them here, or sometimes I think of it at the last minute. My Naruto heart is so cold these days. :3

Moriarty is the name, not really a fan. Just having some fun.
High school sweetheart then. No, old bonds don't easily go away, I'm not saying that at all. And I'm not underestimating her. We already know where Sakura stands, she "loves" Sasuke. But while that is going on, Naruto can still tighten his bonds with others. Since we are using real world perspective to analyze this ... for example I loved my childhood friends. Still love them but I have stronger bonds with my new friends, and I love them tons more.
Going back on his word? I think not, saying he loved her and then loving someone else doesn't mean he went back on his word. Why should he be tied to someone who said they like somebody else? That's torture.
Maybe we see it the same way, but I don't think it's for the same reason.

[rocci]

I do not think this person is one of them. None of his or her posts have been offensive yet.

Yes and just like poison. Well if nh is so big why don't they make a website like NS? Instead they claim the naruto romantic discussion forum.

[六道仙人]

I do not think this person is one of them. None of his or her posts have been offensive yet.

Yes, he/she is....

[Tokura Misaki]

NarHin fan is here, eh?

[六道仙人]

Well, i'm gonna to sleep... Let's see tomorrow with a new and entangling NF/SS chapter. see ya folks!

[Grace]

Agree to disagree but if you push the fact that its romance on others you are the one arguing pairings. I believe the cover is open to reader interpretation.

?

I pushed the fact that holding hands like that is generally accepted as a romantic gesture, yes. I also pushed that, given the history of romantic feelings on Hinata's side of things, the gesture of hand-holding being initiated by Naruto can be seen as romantic, yes. I haven't pushed that on anyone; I've pushed the point that people should stop trying to say it can't be romantic despite the fact that I know if it was Naruto and Sakura, they'd be jumping up and down screaming it's romance.

But sure, let's agree to disagree.

[Tsubaki]

just watching ....

[Moriarty]

First bolded : actually was the fact that he felt unworthy of her, he felt unworthy because of his innability to give the only thing that Sakura asked to him, while she did a lot of things for him on part 1.

Second bolded : she said she was selfish and knew she would not stand a chance there was not heroish, rather it was stubborn and didnt had any implications to Naruto other than giving some development to her because even her saying "I love you" didnt had the same impact on Naruto like the "NAruto does love you" on Sakura, Naruto didnt reacted to her confession, he didnt even thought about it, it was completely ignored and the parts that it should had been bought up again were not showed up implying that her confession wasnt important for Naruto, that it's not a part of him.

Third bolded : There's no indicative of romantic intentions from Naruto towards her, and you didnt said any implications of Why NH should happen and it's quality you just said about your "good" side and completely ignored, i expected more from a NH fan may perhaps my expectations were too high, when you said "Hinata was there for him" sounding like she was the most important friend to Naruto, putting her into a pedestal and ignoring all the downside and problems with her character talking about Neji and ignoring the fact that Lee's bond with Neji was stronger than her bond with Neji.

Your logic is the same as SS on part 1.

If I've learned anything about love, which I think I have, that is his own low self-esteem speaking. Sakura is no better than him. He is afraid of the outcome, and saying that he is unworthy of her is just another form of dragging himself down. If I remember right, I think later he says it's not about the promise to bring Sasuke back. As if he really had much power and control to get him back. There are circumstances that have to be accounted for and he mentally beats himself up for things he has no control over.
I think Naruto was more dumbfounded than anything else, I don't think he ever thought that relationship was an option. He always limited himself and had a narrow view of who had accepted him as a suitable suitor.

Her selfishness I think is more to the fact that she was willing to risk her life to stand by his side, to work together and to protect him.

.... where are you pulling all this out of?
When did I say any of what I just put in bold?

You don't know me. Where the hell are you pulling all your expectations from? I'm not a NH fan. I just lean that way.

Final note I think the romantic(stronger friendship) development is subtle and it's starting to grow slowly but in a strong way. With strong context.

[merryGOflava]

just watching ....

dude me too!! XD