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#241 HalfStarStudios

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 12:25 AM

Just looked back and yes, Kakashi did pull Sakura away. She didn't dodge on her own. So now Kishi is taking her away her training. I give up.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 12:41 AM

I mean, out of all the people he could've killed. Had to be Neji. No no no, it couldnt be Hinata.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 12:46 AM

QUOTE (Dragunov @ Dec 18 2012, 07:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I mean, out of all the people he could've killed. Had to be Neji. No no no, it couldnt be Hinata.

Oh, god no. Because Hinata = $$$.
Neji had actual depth, so he's the one who needed to die.
Hinata is bland, so she needed to live.

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#244 Chucky-kun

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 12:48 AM

QUOTE (zacrathedemon5 @ Dec 19 2012, 11:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh, god no. Because Hinata = $$$.
Neji had actual depth, so he's the one who needed to die.
Hinata is bland, so she needed to live.

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basically hinata still has development, considering shes had none for the past 600 chapters, neji was at his peak

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#245 CloudMountainJuror

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 12:50 AM

QUOTE (Chucky-kun @ Dec 18 2012, 07:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
basically hinata still has development, considering shes had none for the past 600 chapters, neji was at his peak

That's my point, though. The story is so uninvolving right now that we, the audience, needed a reason to care. Kishi needed to focus on characters with depth so that we'd actually care about what was happening.

Instead, he kills one of them.

He's only made his situation that much worse.

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#246 Chucky-kun

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 12:55 AM

QUOTE (zacrathedemon5 @ Dec 19 2012, 11:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's my point, though. The story is so uninvolving right now that we, the audience, needed a reason to care. Kishi needed to focus on characters with depth so that we'd actually care about what was happening.

Instead, he kills one of them.

He's only made his situation that much worse.

Well, if his goal was to make us care, he succeeded considering how many pages this thread has in such little time.

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#247 CloudMountainJuror

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 12:58 AM

QUOTE (Chucky-kun @ Dec 18 2012, 07:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, if his goal was to make us care, he succeeded considering how many pages this thread has in such little time.

There's two types of caring:
One is the "omg I want to see what happens next, can't wait until next week!" caring.
The other is the "ok ragequitting now kitten this manga" caring.

He triggered the wrong one.

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#248 Paptala

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 01:01 AM

The last thing I want is for Hinata to die - she'll be glorified as a martyr, and she's already glorified enough as she is.

No, I want her to finish her character development asap and then fade back into the background so we can focus on the main characters again (or other side characters).

That being said, I do hope we get to see Team Gai's reaction to this next chapter.

Edited by Paptala, 19 December 2012 - 01:03 AM.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 01:04 AM

QUOTE (Paptala @ Dec 19 2012, 12:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The last thing I want is for Hinata to die - she'll be glorified as a martyr, and she's already glorified enough as she is.

No, I want her to finish her character development asap and then fade back into the background so we can focus on the main characters again (or other side characters).

That being said, I do hope we get to see Team Gai's reaction to this next chapter.

Won't Neji be a martyr now?

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#250 Paptala

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 01:08 AM

^ Yeah, but unlike Hinata, the majority of the fandom doesn't hold Neji on a pedestal full of glaring double standards. Thus, I'm okay with him being glorified as a martyr.

And just to clarify, this is more for personal reasons than any storytelling reasons.
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Posted 19 December 2012 - 01:11 AM

I can't believe I read this:

"Neji just sacrifice himself for NaruHina to be canon"

I f****** done with this fandom!!! facepalm.png

Edited by Tsubaki, 19 December 2012 - 01:23 AM.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 01:16 AM

QUOTE (Darth Krypt @ Dec 18 2012, 06:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've been reading somewhere that Hinata trying to protect Naruto from the skewer is similar to Kushina protecting baby Naruto from the Kyuubi skewer. Well I have to agree. If that was Sakura we will definitely say the same thing. I wonder what Kishi's doing here.


Not to be an ass, but really, so what if it is?

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 01:22 AM

QUOTE (Nate River @ Dec 18 2012, 11:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not to be an ass, but really, so what if it is?


well depends on what path Kishi will choose .. I mean if he choose make NaruHina canon, he can use it as an excuse ,it will be a really bad excuse but NH itself will be hard to swallow, a bad excuse here and there will not make a difference.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 01:27 AM

People, Stop Getting Desperate.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 01:42 AM

QUOTE (Tsubaki @ Dec 18 2012, 07:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
well depends on what path Kishi will choose .. I mean if he choose make NaruHina canon, he can use it as an excuse ,it will be a really bad excuse but NH itself will be hard to swallow, a bad excuse here and there will not make a difference.


I can't imagine that's what he will hang his hat on.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 01:51 AM

It's not the same as what kushina did, hinata didn't get hurt that one fact alone makes it different, neji is the only one who was impaled, so if anythings its nejinaruto that is similar, not that it would actually happen.

Hell if anythings you can look at it this way, kushina and minato are narutos parents, so they did it protecting him as parents, as family, so neji and hinata protecting him like that would be like them protecting him as family, protecting naruto as sort of a brother and sister to him, so if anything its far from a NH moment.

Edited by zatheko, 19 December 2012 - 01:58 AM.


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Posted 19 December 2012 - 02:29 AM

QUOTE (StriderC @ Dec 18 2012, 10:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh she was definitely saved by Kakashi there. Look at the dialogue she makes as she's pulled away, and the only person moving on that panel is Sakura. Therefore, she's the one being pulled out of harms way. It's not that we're happy she was saved by Kakashi. The fact is, she was saved by him there. He didn't need more healing either because she healed him when she got to their location. He wasn't limping after she healed him, and he was standing with the group a couple of chapters ago just fine.



no she wasn't...Kakashi can't even move...yet we clearly see Sakura dodgeing...hence the "dodge" right above her head... I can't prove it to you clearly.. but Kakashi is limp...and Sakura was the one in action...I don't know how much more clear it needs to be. huh.gif

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 02:35 AM

QUOTE (KeikoxYusuke @ Dec 18 2012, 06:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
no she wasn't...Kakashi can't even move...yet we clearly see Sakura dodgeing...hence the "dodge" right above her head... I can't prove it to you clearly.. but Kakashi is limp...and Sakura was the one in action...I don't know how much more clear it needs to be. huh.gif


Exactly it wouldn't say "dodge" if she wasn't the one dodging.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 02:39 AM

QUOTE (Nate River @ Dec 19 2012, 09:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not to be an ass, but really, so what if it is?


I'm asking the same question. Some of you think after reading my post that I'm worried about NH becoming canon but no. I know based on the whole story that it all points to NS. Never have I doubted once and I never will. I'm just wondering why Kishi would do this kind of things. I'm kinda disappointed really. I mean he gave NH fans something to hold on to which is completely unnecessary. Wanting to keep fans buying the manga isn't a valid reason for me.

QUOTE (zatheko @ Dec 19 2012, 09:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's not the same as what kushina did, hinata didn't get hurt that one fact alone makes it different, neji is the only one who was impaled, so if anythings its nejinaruto that is similar, not that it would actually happen.

Hell if anythings you can look at it this way, kushina and minato are narutos parents, so they did it protecting him as parents, as family, so neji and hinata protecting him like that would be like them protecting him as family, protecting naruto as sort of a brother and sister to him, so if anything its far from a NH moment.


Well its the thought that counts right? If Neji weren't there then Hinata would be the one impaled. And that "family" point of view is kinda biased way to do it no offense. Not that I'm saying this is your opinion but if Sakura were to do what Hinata did, will you look at it as a sister protecting her brother being an NS fan?

Edited by Darth Krypt, 19 December 2012 - 02:43 AM.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 02:48 AM

I think that if Sakura didn't dodge then that bubble with the word "dodge" would look a little out of place, don't you think? laugh.gif

If Kakashi had pulled her then the bubble would've focused more on Kakashi and probably said "pull" or something of a similar sort.

I think Sakura dodged the wood and then afterwards Kakashi grabbed her so that he could keep her by his side.




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