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[James S Cassidy]

Right, but let's not forget Naruto is willing to save and forgive Sasuke after he tried to kill him numerous times as well.

Sakura won't "accept" him now that she lost Tsunade. He is part of the reason that she is dead. If anything, it looks as if Kishimoto is making her think the opposite of Sasuke (Karui's comment, and later the love letter nin's comment).

I'm not sure what facts you're basing the second part of your comment on. Naruto's not giving up on Sasuke despite his insanity, why would he give up on Sakura, in this odd scenario you came up with?

I think it comes with the possibility of it happening, not that it will happen.

I have written many paragraphs on this and on many forum post. I made mention that basically because Naruto is willing to forgive Sasuke no matter what he does, it kind of seems like Sasuke is immune to fault or punishment.

Nate River said in the discussion we had in the last chapter was that if Sasuke does something really evil and Naruto HAS to forgive him, then that makes Naruto really stupid. Same thing here, there is a fear that Sakura will say "Oh I understand, so all is forgiven."

(I made mention that Heroes are stupid, but that's a different discussion)

That's just ridiculous and basically saying that Sasuke can get away with anything. That the fear everyone has. And if Sakura is willing to do this, then what is to say she wont fall back in love with him? It's these kind of things that I have seen in manga happen before, and it really is such a terrible writing plot.

It happened in Tokyo Mew Mew where Ichigo was in love with the boy who turns out to be the villain. You have another boy who likes her and protects her, but he gets nothing. He even nearly dies protecting her and yet he gets nothing in the end. She still goes out with the original guy she was in love with even though the facts are against him. It also ended with her saying "I understand it all now."

It's not a writing plot I tend to like cause it feels like the good guys get punished while the bad guys get away with it and possibly even rewarded.

I think we need a confirmation that even though Naruto and Sakura might understand why Sasuke did all this because of what he went through, that it shouldn't excuse his actions. There is a difference between understanding and condoning. You can understand and still not condone the actions.

Sasuke should still be punished no matter what understanding Naruto and Sakura have. Biggest of all, we don't want to see SasuSaku happen with the only premise being that Sakura "understands him" and ignore everything he has tried to do to her and how bad he treated her (he treated her bad even before he became evil). It's just a terrible writing plot.

I am hoping Kishi doesn't do this, but the possibility is growing.

I forgot to add, that if Sakura doesn't "forgive" Sasuke then we can't fault her either or say she is any less of a hero. Because even Naruto wasn't able to forgive Nagato.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 13 September 2012 - 07:54 PM.

[jworks]

In the Inari chapter, Naruto himself said it did, which was why nothing he said to Sasuke got through to him in the Valley of the End.

Empathy is when you understand someone else's feelings because you experienced a similar situation. Naruto never lost anyone he actually knew, hence he could not completely empathize with Sasuke's loss.

It isn't Sakura's job to empathize with Sasuke, it is Naruto's. She doesn't share their brotherly bond, their rivalry, or their loneliness.

She might care for Sasuke and admire him, but their bond isn't going to grow considering they hardly talk to each other. Naruto is at the stage where he can understand Sasuke whenever they clash in a fight.

eh, you got me. However, Sasuke has always and always will refuse to believe anyone understands his pain. There are plenty of characters in his life that experienced the loss he did. Look at Kakashi, He lost both his best friends, his mentor, and his father committed suicide. But Sasuke has never acknowledged anyone else's empathy. Also, empathy doesn't require experiencing the same situation as someone else. And even beyond that, you don't need to empathize with someone to know what they're doing is wrong.

[Nate River]

Nate River said in the discussion we had in the last chapter was that if Sasuke does something really evil and Naruto HAS to forgive him, then that makes Naruto really stupid. Same thing here, there is a fear that Sakura will say "Oh I understand, so all is forgiven."

Not quiet.

I'm not saying Naruto has to forgive him. I was talking about the consequences if he does forgive him anyway, and why those consequences will essentially limit what Sasuke is able to accomplish no matter he actually says. Naruto does not have to forgive him, but given the story that has been put forth you should expect that he will and if Kishimoto intends to do that there is a practical limit on what he can have Sasuke do at this point without ruining Naruto's credibility as a hero.

It's not simply about look stupid, but the suspension disbelief so far where we'd be asked to accept Naruto's willing to forgive his friend (or at least refrain from killing) no matter how heinous the act.

It's not just stupid. He'd look like a delusional fool unwilling to accept reality at the expense of those around him. Nothing heroic about that.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I forgot to add, that if Sakura doesn't "forgive" Sasuke then we can't fault her either or say she is any less of a hero. Because even Naruto wasn't able to forgive Nagato.

This.

naruto could not forgive nagato.

[T XD]

I think it comes with the possibility of it happening, not that it will happen.

I have written many paragraphs on this and on many forum post. I made mention that basically because Naruto is willing to forgive Sasuke no matter what he does, it kind of seems like Sasuke is immune to fault or punishment.

Nate River said in the discussion we had in the last chapter was that if Sasuke does something really evil and Naruto HAS to forgive him, then that makes Naruto really stupid. Same thing here, there is a fear that Sakura will say "Oh I understand, so all is forgiven."

(I made mention that Heroes are stupid, but that's a different discussion)

That's just ridiculous and basically saying that Sasuke can get away with anything. That the fear everyone has. And if Sakura is willing to do this, then what is to say she wont fall back in love with him? It's these kind of things that I have seen in manga happen before, and it really is such a terrible writing plot.

It happened in Tokyo Mew Mew where Ichigo was in love with the boy who turns out to be the villain. You have another boy who likes her and protects her, but he gets nothing. He even nearly dies protecting her and yet he gets nothing in the end. She still goes out with the original guy she was in love with even though the facts are against him. It also ended with her saying "I understand it all now."

It's not a writing plot I tend to like cause it feels like the good guys get punished while the bad guys get away with it and possibly even rewarded.

I think we need a confirmation that even though Naruto and Sakura might understand why Sasuke did all this because of what he went through, that it shouldn't excuse his actions. There is a difference between understanding and condoning. You can understand and still not condone the actions.

Sasuke should still be punished no matter what understanding Naruto and Sakura have. Biggest of all, we don't want to see SasuSaku happen with the only premise being that Sakura "understands him" and ignore everything he has tried to do to her and how bad he treated her (he treated her bad even before he became evil). It's just a terrible writing plot.

I am hoping Kishi doesn't do this, but the possibility is growing.

I forgot to add, that if Sakura doesn't "forgive" Sasuke then we can't fault her either or say she is any less of a hero. Because even Naruto wasn't able to forgive Nagato.

Naruto is the only one who is really understanding Sasuke about his feelings and why they let him to take this path. Now, if Sakura is shown to have a moment where she really understands what Naruto and Sasuke had gone through by Tsunade's death or any other thing, it will be her relation with the understanding between the two. Understanding someone and trying to make the other see the right thing is not wrong at all, in order to do something right in a situation like Sasuke.

How Sakura will really love him like she has before ? If she had a moment where she understands him, it will be the way i have mention it above, otherwise it will bring all her character development downward and same to be said about her ignoring everything, this isn't a way to write a line story about it.
Even if Sasuke did something right in the end or be a good guy or returned to Konoha and being a good guy, will not affect Sakura as falling in love with him or think about him romantically cause there's Naruto who is already taking over the feelings that she had for Sasuke and that she didn't even truly realized it for now. So what if Sasuke made a good turn and be back on the right path ? That won't affect Sakura only the happiness that he is back to himself, otherwise it will be like you said a terrible writing plot especially in manga and will make all her character development go downward as well in this way which Kishi won't do this to his heroine. The girl is not retarded and is not a fangirl like she used to be, so there are no excuses to for Sakura to be astern in her life which she doesn't want that.

About Tokyo Mew Mew, the girl is the protagonist of the series and the boys are side characters so the writer can choose anyone from the side character to be with the protagonist. It's not the same when main characters are involved together in the romance side of the story not to mention that the drama take a big role in the romance too which Sakura will have her hurting feelings from Sasuke to be shown more and they are already fading away from the warms up for Naruto.

Edited by T XD, 13 September 2012 - 09:32 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Naruto is the only one who is really understanding Sasuke about his feelings and why they let him to take this path. Now, if Sakura is shown to have a moment where she really understands what Naruto and Sasuke had gone through by Tsunade's death or any other thing, it will be her relation with the understanding between the two. Understanding someone and trying to make the other see the right thing is not wrong at all, in order to do something right in a situation like Sasuke.

How Sakura will really love him like she has before ? If she had a moment where she understands him, it will be the way i have mention it above, otherwise it will bring all her character development downward and same to be said about her ignoring everything, this isn't a way to write a line story about it.
Even if Sasuke did something right in the end or be a good guy or returned to Konoha and being a good guy, will not affect Sakura as falling in love with him or think about him romantically cause there's Naruto who is already taking over the feelings that she had for Sasuke and that she didn't even truly realized it for now. So what if Sasuke made a good turn and be back on the right path ? That won't affect Sakura only the happiness that he is back to himself, otherwise it will be like you said a terrible writing plot especially in manga and will make all her character development go downward as well in this way which Kishi won't do this to his heroine. The girl is not retarded and is not a fangirl like she used to be, so there are no excuses to for Sakura to be astern in her life which she doesn't want that.

About Tokyo Mew Mew, the girl is the protagonist of the series and the boys are side characters so the writer can choose anyone from the side character to be with the protagonist. It's not the same when main characters are involved together in the romance side from the story not to mention that the drama take a big role in the romance too which Sakura will have her hurting feelings from Sasuke to be shown more and they are already fading away from the warms up for Naruto.

that why i said earlier that sakura saying that understand sasuke is an absurd, naruto understand sasuke because he would take that path if wasnt the friends he got, he had no one since the begining its not a matter of losing someome who you love it's a matter of loneliness too, they both had the same suffering naruto sees sasuke as what he could have become...

sakura does not suffer of loneliness she have parents and naruto to support her nad her friends all the time.

just going to add, naruto thought he understand sasuke earlier because they both were lonely, but the problem is sasuke was not only loneliness he suffer the pain of losing the people he love this part naruto could not understand until jiraya and the pain's arc.
so now naruto understand both loneliness and losing someome else.

Edited by dovahkiin, 13 September 2012 - 09:09 PM.

[Don-kun]

To think that all of this started because of this and I voiced my disagreement with the question.

yay, we don't have to post in spoilers anymore!

I didn't know Tsunade was in half until you guy's mentioned it. When I looked back my first reaction was OH kitten!!!!! upon further analysis this does setup Naruto to become Hokage and Sakura to develoup as a character and better understand Sasuke. *sigh* I guess I was just living in a dream world where Tsunade would give up the roll of Hokage for Naruto like Sarutobi did for Minato.

Now the focust went way off the chapter, all I can say am sorry.

Edited by NS means logic, 13 September 2012 - 09:24 PM.

[Orenji]

before I reply are you serious or are you just joking . because honestly i'm lost here

I don't understand what was funny in my post?

And sorry, I was unaware that Oro had been revived. My bad!

[K9ofChaos]

Maybe she already learned...?

Sorry for the off-topic question, but were did that Avatar of yours with Erza come from?



On Topic: It will be interesting to see if Kishi takes advantage of the potential for Tsunade's possible death to give character development to Sakura. She seriously needs some of that stuff, perhaps she might learn a Slug Sage Mode if Kishi wants her to become more powerful not only as a ninja but as a person as well. As for the impending flashback, I hope Kishi explains how Obito got to about the same age as Minato when Kakashi and Guy were probably in their late teens (17, 18, 19?). Perhaps it has something to do with Time Travel (for Tobi being in the Mist during the Yagura Regime) or Obito using the Kamui Dimension as a Hyperbolic Time Chamber of sorts after gaining Kamui. I'm looking forward to the next chapter for some nice exposition.


NOTE: I hope that it's someone else who becomes Hokage after Tsunade dies (maybe Kakashi) because I don't see Naruto getting that title until the very end of the series. Plus wouldn't it make more sense if Kakashi handed the title of Hokage to Naruto since he's his student and all? Sure, Minato wasn't Hiruzen's student but Jiraiya was, so he gave the rank of Hokage to the student of one of his own students. So yeah . . . Kakashi 2012.

Edited by K9ofChaos, 13 September 2012 - 09:37 PM.

[T XD]

To think that all of this started because of this and I voiced my disagreement with the question.


Now the focust went way off the chapter, all I can say am sorry.

Things starts a little blurry as the chapter is freshly out till everything is clear as possible

[candycane-chan]

Well.. I certainly do not want Tsunade to die.. but if you look at it this way..

All Sannins would finally be dead. (Finally sounds brutal, but necessary). Make way for the new ones! Sakura, Naruto, and Sasuke! I didn't have time to read through the 10 pages of forum, so sorry if already stated or debated about, and I see some people arguing over what Sakura will and will not do or something..

But I think with Tsunade gone Sakura will become the most powerful kunoichi, partly maybe to avenger her master or to finish what her master started. All the sannins(? spelling) would be gone, Team 7 would be the new "it" team. Hahaha.

okay
1) sakura wil absolutely not evenge tsunade IF she dies it has been shown when naruto wanted to evenge his sensei that sakura was againt it ,naruto once said that she cries so easily ,she is so soft to understand the concept of revenge

2) even IF she wanted revenge what will she do...kill madara
now dont get me wrong I love sakura and she is my favorite but that is impossible and she's in a war she probably won't even know who did it

3)sakura will become logically strong with no power up,kishi has shown us multiple times that she's the human weaknes and I like that about her ,it makes her more realistic,and he had a lot of chances to give her a power up,
note that i'm not saying that its impossible,this is kishi's manga and he could do anything he wants ,he could still make her summon slugs

4)well yeah if it happens then team 7 will become that but sasuke mmm i dont know

5) orichimaru is revived but i guess now you know that

Edited by candycane-chan, 13 September 2012 - 09:41 PM.

[James S Cassidy]

Naruto is the only one who is really understanding Sasuke about his feelings and why they let him to take this path. Now, if Sakura is shown to have a moment where she really understands what Naruto and Sasuke had gone through by Tsunade's death or any other thing, it will be her relation with the understanding between the two. Understanding someone and trying to make the other see the right thing is not wrong at all, in order to do something right in a situation like Sasuke.

I am rewriting this cause I realized I sound a little rude.

No, that's not really the point I was going for.

The fear is not in her understanding. The fear is in her renewing her feelings for Sasuke simply based on the idea that "she understands." That is what some fans are fearing. Not saying that my ideals are involved in this, just showing why people don't want Sakura to understand.

I hope Sakura remembers everything that Sasuke has tried doing to her. All the times he called her worthless and tried to kill her. They don't just want her to say "Oh he was just stressed out. It's okay." No, it's not okay. You just can't forgive that and walk it off like nothing happened.

They don't want Sakura to revert back, wasting lots of development, just because she finally understands pain and lose. Will this happen? Well honestly to put up the argument that everyone keeps saying: "Kishi is the writer and he can do whatever he wants."

This is why I always hate that argument when people use it. Like Nate said, if a writing plot requires a lot of suspension of belief then perhaps it would be better to think of a better way to handle it. I know Kishi can do what he wishes, but I trust him not to break his own manga simply to get a result he wanted. Especially when we know he can write some pretty deep and interesting stuff.

How Sakura will really love him like she has before ? If she had a moment where she understands him, it will be the way i have mention it above, otherwise it will bring all her character development downward and same to be said about her ignoring everything, this isn't a way to write a line story about it.
Even if Sasuke did something right in the end or be a good guy or returned to Konoha and being a good guy, will not affect Sakura as falling in love with him or think about him romantically cause there's Naruto who is already taking over the feelings that she had for Sasuke and that she didn't even truly realized it for now. So what if Sasuke made a good turn and be back on the right path ? That won't affect Sakura only the happiness that he is back to himself, otherwise it will be like you said a terrible writing plot especially in manga and will make all her character development go downward as well in this way which Kishi won't do this to his heroine. The girl is not retarded and is not a fangirl like she used to be, so there are no excuses to for Sakura to be astern in her life which she doesn't want that.

I said it is a "question of if." The fear that Sakura goes back to Sasuke is there and many fans here have shown that fear simply by saying they don't want it to happen.

I hope Sakura is not made to be that pathetic of a girl but like it is said "It's Kishi's story, he can write it however he wants."

About Tokyo Mew Mew, the girl is the protagonist of the series and the boys are side characters so the writer can choose anyone from the side character to be with the protagonist. It's not the same when main characters are involved together in the romance side of the story not to mention that the drama take a big role in the romance too which Sakura will have her hurting feelings from Sasuke to be shown more and they are already fading away from the warms up for Naruto.

Umm, it is the same. Ryo Shirogane is playing the the role what Sakura is now and Masaya playing the Sasuke role albeit unknown until the end. I could argue that Ryo for supposedly being a "side character" has played a greater impact than Sakura has at being the "main character." And you know as well as I do that many wonder if Sakura is a main character then why doesn't she have a greater impact on the story? Again, just looking at what other people think. Not my own ideals.

Might as well say Sakura and Sasuke are side characters in this story as well if you want to considered how involved they are.

There was also a strong romance side story between Ryo, Ichigo, and Masaya that manifested in the manga. We also have the scene of Ryo and Ichigo having that romantic dance scene a la Final Fantasy VIII and it made no impact to the story what so ever. Big Lipped Alligator Moment. Ichigo also said that she was happy with Ryo, but still was in love with Masaya because of...I am not sure. Popularity? The only real romantic moment between them was at the end and it felt like every other development was thrown out the window.

I hate wasted development.

It's not simply about look stupid, but the suspension disbelief so far where we'd be asked to accept Naruto's willing to forgive his friend (or at least refrain from killing) no matter how heinous the act.

It's not just stupid. He'd look like a delusional fool unwilling to accept reality at the expense of those around him. Nothing heroic about that.

Yet, this hasn't stopped writers from doing this before. Again, I bring up the point of Batman being unable to kill the Joker or let him die simply because he is a hero. Even though killing the joker could not only save lives, but save Batman a lot of problems. I also bring up the point that why not the justice system give him the death penalty too and thus we get an idea that the justice system is inadequate as well. (Honestly, just throwing them in prison is not enough cause they break out anyway)

Many might say Batman is delusional.

I do want to say this. I hope Naruto is not stupid enough to just let Sasuke walk. Friend or not, Sasuke at least needs to be punished whether by prison or something else. Not necessarily death, but even a "good guy" will accept punishment if he knows they deserves it. If Sasuke becomes a good guy again, then he would want to atone for his sins anyway he can.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 13 September 2012 - 10:26 PM.

[T XD]

You miss the point entirely.

The fear is not in her understanding. The fear is in her renewing her feelings for Sasuke simply based on the idea that "she understands." That is what some fans are fearing. Not saying that my ideals are involved in this, just showing why people don't want Sakura to understand.

I hope Sakura remembers everything that Sasuke has tried doing to her. All the times he called her worthless and tried to kill her. They don't just want her to say "Oh he was just stressed out. It's okay." No, it's not okay. You just can't forgive that and walk it off like nothing happened.

They don't want Sakura to revert back, wasting lots of development, just because she finally understands pain and lose. Will this happen? Well honestly to put up the argument that everyone keeps saying: "Kishi is the writer and he can do whatever he wants."

If you reply by saying this is impractical, then I will just say that that is what I have been trying to say to so many people.

I know about Sakura's wrong way of understanding Sasuke. I was replying to you what you said about Sakura's relation with the understanding of it to turn into romance which i have written first the way of Sakura's understanding will be if that really happens.

I said it is a "question of if." The fear that Sakura goes back to Sasuke is there and many fans here have shown that fear simply by saying they don't want it to happen.

I hope Sakura is not made to be that pathetic of a girl but like it is said "It's Kishi's story, he can write it however he wants."

Here i was replying the explanation of why it will not be the way you explain it to be if Sakura returns to love Sasuke by the understanding. Plus the development thing that i mentioned have a big part in all of Sakura's understanding thing.

Umm, it is the same. Ryo Shirogane is playing the the role what Sakura is now and Masaya playing the Sasuke role albeit unknown until the end. I could argue that Ryo for supposedly being a "side character" has played a greater impact than Sakura has at being the "main character." And you know as well as I do that many wonder if Sakura is a main character then why doesn't she have a greater impact on the story? Again, just looking at what other people think. Not my own ideals.

Might as well say Sakura and Sasuke are side characters in this story as well if you want to considered how involved they are.

There was also a strong romance side story between Ryo, Ichigo, and Masaya that manifested in the manga. We also have the scene of Ryo and Ichigo having that romantic dance scene a la Final Fantasy VIII and it made no impact to the story what so ever. Big Lipped Alligator Moment. Ichigo also said that she was happy with Ryo, but still was in love with Masaya because of...I am not sure. Popularity? The only real romantic moment between them was at the end and it felt like every other development was thrown out the window.

I hate wasted development.

The thing is the side characters can be easily played by romance in the situation that they are in it with the main characters. Having an awesome moment with a side character then scooting it away to be replaced with another one with a different side character which the main character skipping from here to there, is the dramatic romance like i said with all the stretching of these sides of the story and have seen many manga like these with their drama being controlled over the story. But Naruto, the manga, is not like this except the romance and drama are secondary after its plot is mainly revolving on action and adventure.

[tricksie]

Naruto does not have to forgive him, but given the story that has been put forth you should expect that he will and if Kishimoto intends to do that there is a practical limit on what he can have Sasuke do at this point without ruining Naruto's credibility as a hero.

my thoughts exactly

[Orenji]

okay
1) sakura wil absolutely not evenge tsunade IF she dies it has been shown when naruto wanted to evenge his sensei that sakura was againt it ,naruto once said that she cries so easily ,she is so soft to understand the concept of revenge

2) even IF she wanted revenge what will she do...kill madara
now dont get me wrong I love sakura and she is my favorite but that is impossible and she's in a war she probably won't even know who did it

3)sakura will become logically strong with no power up,kishi has shown us multiple times that she's the human weaknes and I like that about her ,it makes her more realistic,and he had a lot of chances to give her a power up,
note that i'm not saying that its impossible,this is kishi's manga and he could do anything he wants ,he could still make her summon slugs

4)well yeah if it happens then team 7 will become that but sasuke mmm i dont know

5) orichimaru is revived but i guess now you know that

Well 1) sort of that saying you dont know how someone feels until you take a walk in their shoes. Sakura had never felt the loss of a teacher, so she could in no way know what Naruto meant. If Tsunade dies, Sakura will feel that sense of loss and she may change her mind about revenge if only for a teensy bit.

2) Haha I was definitely joking about Sakura avenging Tsunade in the way of going straight out and attacking Madara, but I meant in the way that Sakura would get stronger to help defeat Madara in whatever way she can. That type of avenge. Haha no, realistically Sakura would not stand a change against Madara. I either didn't convey what I meant right or you just interpreted my post wrong (:

4) Sasuke is a lost cause, but so was Oro and he was still considered to be very great. You dont have to be good to be great.

[James S Cassidy]

I know about Sakura's wrong way of understanding Sasuke. I was replying to you what you said about Sakura's relation with the understanding of it to turn into romance which i have written first the way of Sakura's understanding will be if that really happens.

Here i was replying the explanation of why it will not be the way you explain it to be if Sakura returns to love Sasuke by the understanding. Plus the development thing that i mentioned have a big part in all of Sakura's understanding thing.

Ummm....you know what I think we have a misunderstanding here on both ends. Would it better to say that I agree with you? That I don't think Sakura understanding Sasuke will turn her romance back on. I know it won't work, but I was just explaining why some don't like the idea of Sakura understanding Sasuke.

The thing is the side characters can be easily played by romance in the situation that they are in it with the main characters. Having an awesome moment with a side character then scooting it away to be replaced with another one with a different side character which the main character skipping from here to there, is the dramatic romance like i said with all the stretching of these sides of the story and have seen many manga like these with their drama being controlled over the story. But Naruto, the manga, is not like this except the romance and drama are secondary after its plot is mainly revolving on action and adventure.

The difference I see is that in Tokyo Mew Mew the romance is more predominant while Naruto it takes a back seat, but I still hate when manga does this. I don't mind love triangles, but when you don't even have the main character having a conflict in the love triangle it makes it sound weird.

The way it was written seems like Ichigo would be with Ryo if Masaya wasn't around, but really Masaya doesn't have to do much to gain her affection. Meanwhile, Ryo puts his life on the line and is immediately ignored. And since romance plays a bigger role, you think it would create a much bigger conflict where she doesn't know who she wants to be with and ends up choosing someone based on a long emotional struggle. I have seen stories with love triangles and they have a much better conflict to it.

That's what I would hate to happen to Naruto. If all this development occurs between Sakura and Naruto, but she ends up with Sasuke just because he smiles at her, then I will be sadly disappointed. It will be very unlikely it will happen, but I would hate it if he doe go this route.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

i just dont want to see sakura break naruto's heart again, he was forced to make that promise and he was very sad because he knew that she really loved sasuke.

[Nate River]

Yet, this hasn't stopped writers from doing this before. Again, I bring up the point of Batman being unable to kill the Joker or let him die simply because he is a hero. Even though killing the joker could not only save lives, but save Batman a lot of problems. I also bring up the point that why not the justice system give him the death penalty too and thus we get an idea that the justice system is inadequate as well. (Honestly, just throwing them in prison is not enough cause they break out anyway)

Many might say Batman is delusional.

I do want to say this. I hope Naruto is not stupid enough to just let Sasuke walk. Friend or not, Sasuke at least needs to be punished whether by prison or something else. Not necessarily death, but even a "good guy" will accept punishment if he knows they deserves it. If Sasuke becomes a good guy again, then he would want to atone for his sins anyway he can.

I think he'll let Sasuke walk and I don't think the other characters will bat an eye when he does.

As I said before, I'd be interested to see Kishimoto have Sasuke do something atrocious and Naruto spare him anyway. So much development was lost by the mass resurrection. Make Naruto defend his world view on its own merits in the face of justified victims.

As for Batman....it's hard to comment on comics I haven't read.

[James S Cassidy]

I think he'll let Sasuke walk and I don't think the other characters will bat an eye when he does.

As I said before, I'd be interested to see Kishimoto have Sasuke do something atrocious and Naruto spare him anyway. So much development was lost by the mass resurrection. Make Naruto defend his world view on its own merits in the face of justified victims.

But didn't you just say this will make Naruto look like a delusional fool and would cause a high problem in suspending belief?

[Nate River]

But didn't you just say this will make Naruto look like a delusional fool and would cause a high problem in suspending belief?

Yes, I did.

I want to see what Kishimoto would have him say in defense of his own vision to those who feel wronged by Sasuke. Not in the abstract either. Direct victims.

EDIT: You treat what I say as zero-sum and it's not. How Naruto will look will depend on the specifics of the act and who the victim is, but I don't like being deprived of that particular development with Nagato. He never had to justify it to the village.

What Naruto did with Nagato was difficult, but trying telling that to someone who lost their loved one to Nagato and see if they'd understand.

EDIT 2: I told you before I wouldn't mind Kishimoto letting Naruto look that way, at least so long as people called him on it and he were forced to defend the action. It's one thing for Naruto to do it, it's his friend, it would be another for everyone around him to look the other way too.