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#25941 BlazingDynamo

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 11:58 AM

I think the impression that Sakura got of "Sasuke" during the Bench Scene is pretty much the reason for the false image she gained of him and by that the reason she loved him  especially when we look at the conclusion she gain from him from the whole scene . First at the beginning of that scene she says  that "Sasuke's looking at her with his eyes deeply is like he's looking into her soul "  by this she just classified him as her "Soulmate"  , then we have the forehead compliment  even if it was retracted it doesn't change the fact that he said that to her and how it made her feel when he said it  , then we have Sakura and "Sasuke"(aka Naruto) trying to kiss (this is a huge deal) , then we have him escaping from the scene and Sakura with yet another conclusion  that he's a "nice shy guy"  but all of that was Naruto not Sasuke  .

 

So the conclusion she got from that whole scene is 1. Sasuke is her "Soulmate" and 2 . Sasuke is this "sweet nice shy guy" who "loves" her aka all of this is the false Image she gained of him  the funny ironic thing is even Naruto after that scene comments on how he just made Sasuke look even better in Sakura's eyes (Baka) :facepalm: . All in all I say the Bench Scene is pretty much relevant for the Romance Subplot and Sakura's existing feelings for Sasuke as it began there  by gaining that false image of him and the fact that latter she mixed those feelings with the feelings of camaraderie/teammate care for him  (aka the Chunin exams ) didn't help either . Its all one major clusterkitten if you ask me :facepalm:

I feel as if this is all Naruto's fault because this kinda started the pairing wars I think. He tied up Sasuke, used a transformation justu to disguise himself as him and started to flirt with Sakura saying how her forehead looks cute and how he wanted to kiss it which made Sakura love Sasuke even more.



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Posted 05 August 2014 - 12:38 PM

Okay....it has been quite a few days since I posted here. Glad to know that everythigng is going good in here :D. My Engineering college has started already and I barely get enough time to post stuff :sweatdrop: Though I have been reading quite a few posts. So many new members coming up and our ship getting more stronger B). Felt so happy that the ship is still strong and growing strnger than before :)..

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 01:03 PM

I'm feeling depressed, so I watched One Piece and it saved my life. I think I'm hooked.... ok bye.


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Posted 05 August 2014 - 01:17 PM

I'm feeling depressed, so I watched One Piece and it saved my life. I think I'm hooked.... ok bye.


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Posted 05 August 2014 - 05:08 PM

If the Bench Scene was important to Sakura as far as her feelings went, then why wasn't it emphasized or brought up again? Emphasis is very important. When Sasuke left the village, the only thing she mentioned that happened at the Bench was of Sasuke yelling at her and calling her annoying. And then, again when to comes to flashbacks, the only thing that particularly stuck out for Sakura when she tried to kill him was his "thank you."

 

I think the Bench Scene is for important for NS resolution. I just don't know if had much to do with Sakura's feelings for him. It's possible, but I don't see it. That's just my opinion.


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Posted 05 August 2014 - 05:23 PM

If the Bench Scene was important to Sakura as far as her feelings went, then why wasn't it emphasized or brought up again? Emphasis is very important. When Sasuke left the village, the only thing she mentioned that happened at the Bench was of Sasuke yelling at her and calling her annoying. And then, again when to comes to flashbacks, the only thing that particularly stuck out for Sakura when she tried to kill him was his "thank you."

 

I think the Bench Scene is for important for NS resolution. I just don't know if had much to do with Sakura's feelings for him. It's possible, but I don't see it. That's just my opinion.

Its not important at all. I can't really understand why so many from our fandom wish for a revisit to that scene. Last it was mentioned was 684 chapters before. It was just used to introduce fans to the love triangle and to let readers know that its not Sasuke but Naruto that is meant to be with Sakura. Does the thought of having a big forehead even bother Sakura now? She is not a small girl anymore, she has bigger insecurities now, most recent one- not being able to do big things for Naruto.


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Posted 05 August 2014 - 05:24 PM

If the Bench Scene was important to Sakura as far as her feelings went, then why wasn't it emphasized or brought up again? Emphasis is very important. When Sasuke left the village, the only thing she mentioned that happened at the Bench was of Sasuke yelling at her and calling her annoying. And then, again when to comes to flashbacks, the only thing that particularly stuck out for Sakura when she tried to kill him was his "thank you."

 

I think the Bench Scene is for important for NS resolution. I just don't know if had much to do with Sakura's feelings for him. It's possible, but I don't see it. That's just my opinion.

 

The bench scene was just crack XD



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Posted 05 August 2014 - 05:29 PM

If the Bench Scene was important to Sakura as far as her feelings went, then why wasn't it emphasized or brought up again? Emphasis is very important. When Sasuke left the village, the only thing she mentioned that happened at the Bench was of Sasuke yelling at her and calling her annoying. And then, again when to comes to flashbacks, the only thing that particularly stuck out for Sakura when she tried to kill him was his "thank you."

 

I think the Bench Scene is for important for NS resolution. I just don't know if had much to do with Sakura's feelings for him. It's possible, but I don't see it. That's just my opinion.

I don't think the bench scene should be the deciding factor for NS, and it's not just because there's next to no emphases put on it, but there are just better ways of going about establishing NS as a couple. Can you just imagine NS becoming canon all because of a compliment?

 

"Omg it was you all along, Naruto? Even though this is the first time in like 600+ chapters I'm thinking about this scene, let's make babies now anyway." lol yeah... no.


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Posted 05 August 2014 - 05:41 PM

I don't think the bench scene should be the deciding factor for NS, and it's not just because there's next to no emphases put on it, but there are just better ways of going about establishing NS as a couple. Can you just imagine NS becoming canon all because of a compliment?

 

"Omg it was you all along, Naruto? Even though this is the first time in like 600+ chapters I'm thinking about this scene, let's make babies now anyway." lol yeah... no.

Totally agree! And it involves Sasuke again! I don't want Sasuke to do ANYTHING with resolution of NS :no:  

Naruto and Sakura have done so much for each other after chapter 3. For instance, why not use the CPR scene instead of this benchscene? Its holds way more substance.


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Posted 05 August 2014 - 05:43 PM

 
The bench scene was just crack XD

Apparently not! I am a bit confused as to whether @xxRomanceGirlxx approves of the Bench scene theory or not but for me, it is important for NS. Actually you can call it a...symbolism? I mean not an intended one but its not that hard to figure out. The bench scene was where Sasuke(Naruto) complimented Sakura on her insecuritites. Her thinking that she loves (that) Sasuke who was never infact like that and in reality was Naruto....doesn't it somehow give you the idea of her present situation? She still thinks she loves Sasuke and she has that tattered mental image of Sasuke. The Sasuke which she loves and she expects the real Sasuke to be. If you got to see cloooosseely or might as well play a devil's advocate, doesn't 'that' image somehow points to Naruto?

The bench scene had this type of symbolism. The author did not mean it but somehow...it portrays her current situation. She thinks she loves Sasuke but in reality...its Naruto! It was always Naruto! The mental image of Sasuke which she wished he was....was Naruto! When that 'image' shatters fully, she will be able to see clearly that all this time....she was looking for someone like Naruto who was right before her eyes from the start and yet she kept thinking that Sasuke was the one she always wanted(his image...but still). And that is why...I say, a closure or whatever...to the bench scene is going to come up!

I dunno if I have explained myself clearly...incase I haven't...well...feel free to tell me and I'll try putting it in a more simpler way :D

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 05:45 PM

If the Bench Scene was important to Sakura as far as her feelings went, then why wasn't it emphasized or brought up again? Emphasis is very important. When Sasuke left the village, the only thing she mentioned that happened at the Bench was of Sasuke yelling at her and calling her annoying. And then, again when to comes to flashbacks, the only thing that particularly stuck out for Sakura when she tried to kill him was his "thank you."

 

I think the Bench Scene is for important for NS resolution. I just don't know if had much to do with Sakura's feelings for him. It's possible, but I don't see it. That's just my opinion.

You know as well as I do that if the Bench Scene was emphasized the Romance Subplot would have been done and over , just bc that part of that scene  hasn't been emphasized/brought up doesn't mean its not going to I think there is a reason why it wasn't so far , again look at everything that happened at scene not just the forehead scene but the whole scene and Sakura's conclusion of it . There isn't even a legit reason for Sakura to even love Sasuke she hasn't given any of that besides that he's "cool" why is that ? Don't you find odd that she didn't remember Sasuke trying to kiss her ? What would have mean if she did remember it ? There is a reason why Kishimoto hasn't revealed why she loved him in the first place besides him being the "cool" guy  also why do you ignore the fact that not only Sakura gain a false impression of Sasuke but even Naruto confirm this  so why is this so much ignored by everyone in here ? 

 

I don't know why is it so hard for some of you to believe that Sakura loved a false image of Sasuke and not who he really is and this scene helped in that department its there in black and white you can't ignore it or just dismiss it like that just bc you don't like it . 

 

But I agree on one thing with you that Sakura's call back of the bench scene was emphasized to give SS a closure bc that's the real SS moment between them of the bench scene not the one when Naruto is disguised as Sasuke that's for Sakura's feelings  . 

 

Its not important at all. I can't really understand why so many from our fandom wish for a revisit to that scene. Last it was mentioned was 684 chapters before. It was just used to introduce fans to the love triangle and to let readers know that its not Sasuke but Naruto that is meant to be with Sakura. Does the thought of having a big forehead even bother Sakura now? She is not a small girl anymore, she has bigger insecurities now, most recent one- not being able to do big things for Naruto.

 Well let me tell you something a girl no matter how big or small her insecurity is would always like to be complimented on it even if she doesn't think about that insecurity that much it would always make her feel special  take Kushina for example when Naruto complimented her hair what did she do ? And yet she's not a small girl either but a grown woman but she still appreciated it and tell her son she loved him .

 

I don't think the bench scene should be the deciding factor for NS, and it's not just because there's next to no emphases put on it, but there are just better ways of going about establishing NS as a couple. Can you just imagine NS becoming canon all because of a compliment?

 

"Omg it was you all along, Naruto? Even though this is the first time in like 600+ chapters I'm thinking about this scene, let's make babies now anyway." lol yeah... no.

I or anyone else don't say by bringing the Bench scene in play again that it will be a deciding factor for NS to go canon that's not the case the deciding factor is the whole development of NS through the story Sakura through being with Naruto started to see him for who he is and fall in love with him , but that scene should gave as a resolution to some things like Sasuke isn't the guy she thought he was he wasn't her prince charming or her soulmate or would you rather she stays with that opinion forever ? 


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Posted 05 August 2014 - 05:46 PM

Totally agree! And it involves Sasuke again! I don't want Sasuke to do ANYTHING with resolution of NS :no:  
Naruto and Sakura have done so much for each other after chapter 3. For instance, why not use the CPR scene instead of this benchscene? Its holds way more substance.

Naruto WILL know about the CPR and that too from Gaara :)

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 05:50 PM

Apparently not! I am a bit confused as to whether @xxRomanceGirlxx approves of the Bench scene theory or not but for me, it is important for NS. Actually you can call it a...symbolism? I mean not an intended one but its not that hard to figure out. The bench scene was where Sasuke(Naruto) complimented Sakura on her insecuritites. Her thinking that she loves (that) Sasuke who was never infact like that and in reality was Naruto....doesn't it somehow give you the idea of her present situation? She still thinks she loves Sasuke and she has that tattered mental image of Sasuke. The Sasuke which she loves and she expects the real Sasuke to be. If you got to see cloooosseely or might as well play a devil's advocate, doesn't 'that' image somehow points to Naruto?

The bench scene had this type of symbolism. The author did not mean it but somehow...it portrays her current situation. She thinks she loves Sasuke but in reality...its Naruto! It was always Naruto! The mental image of Sasuke which she wished he was....was Naruto! When that 'image' shatters fully, she will be able to see clearly that all this time....she was looking for someone like Naruto who was right before her eyes from the start and yet she kept thinking that Sasuke was the one she always wanted(his image...but still). And that is why...I say, a closure or whatever...to the bench scene is going to come up!

I dunno if I have explained myself clearly...incase I haven't...well...feel free to tell me and I'll try putting it in a more simpler way :D

Where do people get the idea that Sakura started loving Sasuke after that?! People forget what happened afterwards. Real Sasuke comes and insults Sakura. And the scene ends with Sakura thinking this- 'This is how Naruto must feel. I shouldn't treat him like that. Next time onwards, I'll be nice to him'.  NOTHING ABOUT SASUKE!


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Posted 05 August 2014 - 05:54 PM

On another note, Obito's last words had me in tears. If, during Obito's death scene, they play the song that played when Minato and Kushina died, or the song that played when Jiraiya gave his last words, I'll be in the fetal position for sure lol

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 05:55 PM

Where do people get the idea that Sakura started loving Sasuke after that?! People forget what happened afterwards. Real Sasuke comes and insults Sakura. And the scene ends with Sakura thinking this- 'This is how Naruto must feel. I shouldn't treat him like that. Next time onwards, I'll be nice to him'.  NOTHING ABOUT SASUKE!

Point me out a single line in my post wherein I have stated that Sakura started loving Sasuke after complimenting. Honestly, where did you get that idea from? Who said the aftermath doesn't count? I did not say that! Infact that was the actual starting point of NS.

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 05:58 PM

On another note, Obito's last words had me in tears. If, during Obito's death scene, they play the song that played when Minato and Kushina died, or the song that played when Jiraiya gave his last words, I'll be in the fetal position for sure lol

The murderer getting the same song and sympathy that his victims had gotten. I just..  :wot:  NOOOOOO  :argh:


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Posted 05 August 2014 - 05:58 PM

I or anyone else don't say by bringing the Bench scene in play again that it will be a deciding factor for NS to go canon that's not the case the deciding factor is the whole development of NS through the story Sakura through being with Naruto started to see him for who he is and fall in love with him , but that scene should gave as a resolution to some things like Sasuke isn't the guy she thought he was he wasn't her prince charming or her soulmate or would you rather she stays with that opinion forever ? 

The belittlement and murder attempts made her stop thinking that Sasuke is her prince charming. It'd be utter ridiculous and incredibly idiotic if she thought at this point in the series he was still her prince charming. She doesn't think he is and I'm glad she isn't.

 

But please don't think I'm saying that the bench scene means nothing. I think it added onto the NS development.


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Posted 05 August 2014 - 06:01 PM

Apparently not! I am a bit confused as to whether @xxRomanceGirlxx approves of the Bench scene theory or not but for me, it is important for NS. Actually you can call it a...symbolism? I mean not an intended one but its not that hard to figure out. The bench scene was where Sasuke(Naruto) complimented Sakura on her insecuritites. Her thinking that she loves (that) Sasuke who was never infact like that and in reality was Naruto....doesn't it somehow give you the idea of her present situation? She still thinks she loves Sasuke and she has that tattered mental image of Sasuke. The Sasuke which she loves and she expects the real Sasuke to be. If you got to see cloooosseely or might as well play a devil's advocate, doesn't 'that' image somehow points to Naruto?

The bench scene had this type of symbolism. The author did not mean it but somehow...it portrays her current situation. She thinks she loves Sasuke but in reality...its Naruto! It was always Naruto! The mental image of Sasuke which she wished he was....was Naruto! When that 'image' shatters fully, she will be able to see clearly that all this time....she was looking for someone like Naruto who was right before her eyes from the start and yet she kept thinking that Sasuke was the one she always wanted(his image...but still). And that is why...I say, a closure or whatever...to the bench scene is going to come up!

I dunno if I have explained myself clearly...incase I haven't...well...feel free to tell me and I'll try putting it in a more simpler way :D

 

 

XDD Well i'm not exactly a hardcore NS fan so I really haven't thought that in-depth about it, the only thing that mattered to me was that it was funny XD



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Posted 05 August 2014 - 06:02 PM

Point me out a single line in my post wherein I have stated that Sakura started loving Sasuke after complimenting. Honestly, where did you get that idea from? Who said the aftermath doesn't count? I did not say that! Infact that was the actual starting point of NS.

You said Sakura loves Sasuke and still has that mental image of him . I thought it was about that image of Sasuke complimenting her.


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